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List of DYK Hooks by Date
Date # of Hooks # Verified
September 13 1
September 19 1
September 25 1
October 1 1
October 3 1
October 5 1
October 8 1
October 12
October 13 1
October 15 1
October 16 2
October 17 1
October 18 1
October 19 2
October 20 1
October 21 1
October 22 2
October 23 1
October 24 4
October 25 2
October 26 3
October 27 3 1
October 28 1
October 29 1
October 30 2 1
October 31 4
November 1 6 3
November 2 4
November 3 4
November 4 6 4
November 5 6 1
November 6 9 4
November 7 6 3
November 8 18 8
November 9 7 3
November 10 15 7
November 11 22 6
November 12 18 10
November 13 15 9
November 14 15 7
November 15 12 7
November 16 20 7
November 17 13 4
November 18 20 6
November 19 12 6
November 20 10 5
November 21 12 3
November 22 11 6
November 23 5 1
November 24 1
Total 307 112
Last updated 01:26, November 24, 2015 (UTC)
Current time is 02:38, November 24, 2015 UTC (purge)

Instructions for nominators[edit]

Create a subpage for your new DYK suggestion and then list the page below under the date the article was created or the expansion began (not the date you submit it here), with the newest dates at the bottom. Any registered user may nominate a DYK suggestion (if you are not a registered user, please leave a message at the bottom of the DYK project talk page with the details of the article you would like to nominate and the hook you would like to propose); self-nominations are permitted and encouraged. Thanks for participating and please remember to check back for comments on your nomination (consider watchlisting your nomination page).

If this is your first nomination, please read the DYK rules before continuing:
Official DYK criteria: DYK rules and supplementary guidelines
Unofficial guide: Learning DYK

To nominate an article[edit]

Read these instructions completely before proceeding.

For simplified instructions, see User:Rjanag/Quick DYK 2.

I.
Create the nomination subpage.

Enter the article title in the box below and click the button. (To nominate multiple articles together, enter any or all of the article titles.) You will then be taken to a preloaded nomination page.


II.
Write the nomination.

On the nomination page, fill in the relevant information. See Template:NewDYKnomination and {{NewDYKnomination/guide}} for further information.

  • Not every line of the template needs to be filled in. For instance, if you are not nominating an image to appear with your hook, there is no need to fill in the image-related lines.
  • Add an edit summary e,g, "Nominating YOUR ARTICLE TITLE for DYK" and click Save page.
  • Make sure the nomination page is on your watchlist, so you can follow the review discussion.
III.
Post at Template talk:Did you know.

In the current nominations section find the subsection for the date on which the article was created or on which expansion began, not the date on which you make the nomination.

  • At the top of that subsection (before other nominations already there, but below the section head and hidden comment) add {{Did you know nominations/YOUR ARTICLE TITLE}}.
  • Add an edit summary e.g. "Nominating YOUR ARTICLE TITLE for DYK" and click Save page.
  • Consider adding {{Did you know nominations/YOUR ARTICLE TITLE}} to the article's talk page (without a section heading—​the template adds a section heading automatically).

How to review a nomination[edit]

Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, suggest new hooks, or even lend a hand and make edits to the article to which the hook applies so that the hook is supported and accurate. For a more detailed discussion of the DYK rules and review process see the supplementary guidelines and the WP:Did you know/Reviewing guide.

To post a comment or review on a DYK nomination, follow the steps outlined below:

  • Look through this page, Template talk:Did you know, to find a nomination you would like to comment on.
  • Click the "Review or comment" link at the top of the nomination. You will be taken to the nomination subpage.
  • The top of the page includes a list of the DYK criteria. Check the article to ensure it meets all the relevant criteria.
  • To indicate the result of the review (i.e., whether the nomination passes, fails, or needs some minor changes), leave a signed comment on the page. Please begin with one of the 5 review symbols that appear at the top of the edit screen, and then indicate all aspects of the article that you have reviewed; your comment should look something like the following:

    Article length and age are fine, no copyvio or plagiarism concerns, reliable sources are used. But the hook needs to be shortened.

    If you are the first person to comment on the nomination, there will be a line :* <!-- REPLACE THIS LINE TO WRITE FIRST COMMENT, KEEPING :* --> showing you where you should put the comment.
  • Save the page.

If there is any problem or concern about a nomination, please consider notifying the nominator by placing {{subst:DYKproblem|Article|header=yes|sig=yes}} on the nominator's talk page.

Frequently asked questions[edit]

Backlogged?[edit]

This page is often backlogged. As long as your submission is still on the page, it will stay there until an editor reviews it. Since editors are encouraged to review the oldest submissions first (so that those hooks don't grow stale), it may take several weeks until your submission is reviewed. In the meantime, please consider reviewing another submission (not your own) to help reduce the backlog (see instructions above).

Where is my hook?[edit]

If you can't find the hook you submitted to this page, in most cases it means your article has been approved and is in the queue for display on the main page. You can check whether your hook has been moved to the queue by reviewing the queue listings.

If your hook is not in the queue or already on the main page, it has probably been deleted. Deletion occurs if the hook is more than about eight days old and has unresolved issues for which any discussion has gone stale. If you think your hook has been unfairly deleted, you can query its deletion on the discussion page, but as a general rule deleted hooks will only be restored in exceptional circumstances.

Search archived DYK nomination discussions[edit]

Instructions for other editors[edit]

How to promote an accepted hook[edit]

  • See Wikipedia:Did you know/Preparation areas for full instructions.
  • In one window, open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to promote. In another window, open the prep set you intend to add the hook to.
  • In the prep set...
  • Paste the hook into the hook area
  • Paste the credit information ({{DYKmake}} and/or {{DYKnom}}) into the credits area.
  • Back on DYK nomination page...
  • change {{DYKsubpage to {{subst:DYKsubpage
  • change |passed= to |passed=yes
  • Add an edit summary e.g. "Promoted to Prep 3", and save.

How to remove a rejected hook[edit]

  • Open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to remove. (It's best to wait several days after a reviewer has rejected the hook, just in case someone contests or the article undergoes a large change.)
  • In the window where the DYK nomination subpage is open, replace the line {{DYKsubpage with {{subst:DYKsubpage, and replace |passed= with |passed=no. Then save the page. This has the effect of wrapping up the discussion on the DYK nomination subpage in a blue archive box and stating that the nomination was unsuccessful, as well as adding the nomination to a category for archival purposes.

How to remove a hook from the prep areas or queue[edit]

  • Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
  • Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there is usually a link to it in the credits section).
    • View the edit history for that page
    • Go back to the last version before the edit where the hook was promoted, and revert to that version to make the nomination active again.
    • Leave a comment explaining that the hook was removed from the queue, and why, so that later reviewers are aware of this issue.
    • If the day title for the section that contained the hook has been removed from this page, restore that section.
  • If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.
  • Add a link to the nomination subpage at Wikipedia:Did you know/Removed

How to move a nomination subpage to a new name[edit]

  • Don't; it should not ever be necessary, and will break some links which will later need to be repaired. Even if you change the title of the article, you don't need to move the nomination page.

Nominations[edit]

Older nominations[edit]

Articles created/expanded on September 13[edit]

Jared Tebo, 2007 IFMAR 1:10 Electric Off-Road World Championship

  • ... that the 2007 and 2013 world champion Jared Tebo took up radio-controlled racing as an alternative to regular hospital visits caused by motocrossing?
  • ALT1:... that the 2007 and 2013 world champion Jared Tebo considered radio-controlled racing to be motocrossing without the hospital visits?

Created by Donnie Park (talk). Self-nominated at 23:37, 13 September 2015 (UTC).

  • Comment: Will prefer this to be posted on its opening day. October 3—5 (2015 IFMAR 1:10 Electric Off-Road World Championship, 2WD class) as Tebo is the defending champion in that class.
Symbol possible vote.svg New enough, long enough. Hook short enough and sourced. No neutrality problems found, no copyright problems found. QPQ done and image properly licensed. You are right that you require two QPQs, as this is a dual-article hook. As far as I can tell, 2007 IFMAR 1:10 Electric Off-Road World Championship#4WD is unfinished; it consists of three empty sections, and although I am a hypocrite for saying this due to the ubiquity of red links in my articles, there are too many in this article - three red link main article hatnotes, and another red link in 2007 IFMAR 1:10 Electric Off-Road World Championship#See also. The point of red links is to encourage article creation, and in these cases these red links do more harm than good. As for Jared Tebo, I agree that not all the listed references are reliable - the first two certainly aren't as they are WP:PRIMARY, though I haven't evaluated any of the others. A good percentage of Jared Tebo#Personal life needs being slashed per WP:BLP, since - as far as I can tell anyway - it's sourced poorly. In addition, please ask WP:GOCE to copyedit the article, and in your request, ask them to mark any howlers as [citation needed].--Launchballer 01:58, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
@Launchballer: I did as much as I can advised above but one more thing, do you know what is the issue with this DYK nomination as this is languishing for weeks doing nothing after being given a pass then was told it had some problems which I assumed it passed. Please let me know, thanks. Donnie Park (talk) 02:15, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
It has almost certainly been pulled from prep and thus from T:TDYK. Ask at T:DYK for them to reinstate it.--Launchballer 11:11, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
Donnie Park, I restored the template to T:TDYK earlier today and added it to the list of old nominations needing review on WT:DYK; hopefully, it will be picked up soon by a reviewer. BlueMoonset (talk) 20:13, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Comment: Article copy-edited. Removed comma before name in both DYK hooks. In addition, I agree with @Launchballer: that pretty much the entirety of the article is based on personal interviews... not sure what can be done about that but I'm not taking on that responsibility. I prefer ALT1 personally. Ignatzmicetalk 02:36, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Comment: both articles have now received their requested WP:GOCE copyedits. @Launchballer: please continue the review. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 20:37, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
Sorry, what else do I need to do? I can't see anything wrong with the sourcing, which I didn't finish checking.--Launchballer 21:24, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Let's get a new reviewer in here to continue, since this is clearly stalled. The reviewer should check that issues raised previously have been handled to their satisfaction. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:45, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
  • As far as I can tell, from looking at the page and the comments above, the outstanding issue seems to be whether the sources used for the Jared Tebo article are reputable, if someone could please speak to that.Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 15:46, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Since the only issue raised in the first review was the quality of the sources, I'm going to give everything else a pass and just look at the sources. The hook fact is sourced to an interview on circusrc.com. Interviews do not usually have any critical analysis of the answers and we thus treat them as self-published sources. To boot, the site appears to be a one man show and thus lacks editorial oversight. However, self-published sources can be used for information on what the subject says about themselves. I think the subject saying in an interview what their reasons were for taking a particular career course can reasonably be treated as an expert opinion on the matter and therefore complies with WP:SELFPUB. There is no particular reason to doubt the genuineness of the interview either, so I would give that one a pass. There are enough other sources in the article that can be considered reliable that it passes the notability threshold. In particular, there are two articles from liverc.com which, although it is mostly focused on providing video and commentary, seems to be a large organisation and uses named staff journalists so it is reasonable to assume that there is editorial oversight. Obviously, the article cannot go to DYK with the unreliable sources banner still in place. I don't propose to remove it myself, but pinging user:I dream of horses, the user who put it there, to see what they think. If I dream of horses is ok with this, then please take it as read that I have given the article a pass. SpinningSpark 18:27, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
  • @Spinningspark: I can't recall why I put the tag up, but I don't I'd put it up today. I'd be totally okay if someone took it down. I dream of horses (My edits) @ 01:21, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on September 19[edit]

One Hundred and Eighty

Created by Launchballer (talk). Self-nominated at 22:21, 19 September 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New enough. Long enough. QPQ done. Both references have "Missing or empty title=". Could you add URLs for the relevant webpages please? Hook is "hooky" enough. Where the hook fact appears in the article, there needs to be a citaition at the end of that sentence, not just the end of the paragraph. Not yet checked for close paraphrasing issues, copyright violations and plagiarism. Edwardx (talk) 13:20, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
Both fixed. I'd filled in both, but not the series parameter. That must be a common error - where can I have a bot do it?--Launchballer 14:36, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
Symbol question.svg Thanks. Maybe I'm missing something, but I'm still struggling to review this properly. As far as I can figure it, the main source seems to be an episode that you watched. On the one hand, this source mostly supports content similar to a movie plot, which wouldn't need to be cited as such. On the other hand, it might be seen by some as skirting close to WP:OR. As for the hook, "£500" has a citation, but it is to that episode again; the "20,000 jackpot" needs a cite. It would be most appreciated if you could hunt online for more webpages to support the article! Edwardx (talk) 14:27, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
Well, I've added a cite to the jackpot.--Launchballer 10:45, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg The article, after recent edits, now has but a single primary source and the only remaining citations are in the infobox, with none at all in the body of the article. Obviously, this cannot be promoted as it is, and it by the earlier description, it sounds as if it were dicey even before that, given the lack of secondary sourcing. Launchballer, this needs some significant work. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:13, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
It's the same sodding IP address removing both sources to TV shows and references to UKGameshows.com. (S)he's done with it near enough every game show article I've written in the last six months. I have reinstated the references to the state they were before the removal; are they needed in rounds 4 and 6?--Launchballer 07:40, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Launchballer, thanks. Yes, I think all rounds need to have source citations. The IP, whoever it is, is citing verification, reliability, and notability issues (WP:IMPORTANT). I'm still troubled by the sourcing, and feel constrained to note this (from the notability article): if no reliable third-party sources can be found on a topic, then it should not have a separate article. As Edwardx notes, almost every cited fact comes a single episode that you watched. Regarding UKGameshows.com, I think you need to run this source past the reliable sources noticeboard and reference both this article and the Safeword one in your request, to see whether that site is indeed considered reliable. If not, then absent new reliable secondary sourcing, both nominations become untenable. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:11, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done. I await a response.--Launchballer 18:44, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Thank you BlueMoonset, for your considered input. I was reluctant to decline this if it could be salvaged. I'm relaxed about there being an article on this show, as I don't doubt it exists. However, I am inclined to agree that it is not looking suitable for DYK. Edwardx (talk) 01:08, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg As the UKGameshows.com site has been determined not to be reliable, the article is back where it was: no citations in the lede or body, and the only source, a primary one, just used in the infobox. As such, it is not adequately sourced for DYK, either the hook or the article itself. Marking for closure. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:23, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
I'm still waiting for a response on whether or not the show itself is reliable, it can be used to sourced nearly all of the article text. But I will look for others.--Launchballer 11:08, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
Even were it acceptable, that would leave two primary sources (the show itself and the network on which it appears), which would still be inadequate for DYK. BlueMoonset (talk) 20:19, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
Agh! My internet's been down for the last ten or so hours. I've just saved what was in my editing window at the time it went, but I will add any remaining sources. (Nearly all of them take the form of 'a new darts-based quiz show is coming to Sky' rather than 'One Hundred and Eighty review'.)--Launchballer 22:44, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg It has been two weeks since the nominator's last plea for more time and we are still waiting for the needed sources. --Allen3 talk 10:30, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
I can advise, that although I forgot to post here, all the sources I could find I've listed, so if it isn't enough then that's it.--Launchballer 11:20, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg I'm a Brit and I didn't know what One Hundred and Eighty is; might it be worth expanding it to "British darts-based gameshow One Hundred and Eighty" or something? Presumably the article title should also be italicised, as well. With hook expansion and sourcing as above, I'd happily support — OwenBlacker (Talk) 18:20, 15 November 2015 (UTC)


Articles created/expanded on September 25[edit]

Nexus 5X, Nexus 6P

Created by AkshayAnand (talk). Nominated by SSTflyer (talk) at 02:57, 1 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg @AkshayAnand, SSTflyer: Some close paraphrasing found in both articles: though this tool shows "violation unlikely" in the 5X article, some techie jargon in the "Specifications" section could be rephrased; 6P shows "violation possible" but mostly through false positives. Both neglect to mention that the devices serve to launch Marshmallow, and 6P lacks a source that it runs Marshmallow altogether. Minor fixes, and all else checks out (dates, QPQs, neutrality). 23W 17:47, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg I'm not sure that the Nexus 5X will qualify: a large chunk of the Hardware section and first sentence of Software were copied from Nexus 6P with this edit, which amounts to 1400 duplicated prose characters. Since the phone articles were started at about the same time, there may be other instances of copying (acknowledged or unacknowledged) that, when added to the 1400, would leave the 5X at fewer than 1500 original prose characters. I have added a couple of additional DYKmakes for the 6P, as the original article was a short stub and these people appear to have made significant additions to it. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:33, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg It's been over a week. New reviewer requested to check the Nexus 6P nomination and ALT1 hook for it; I've removed Nexus 5X from the various templates on the page. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:57, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
  • On it. — LlywelynII 04:31, 21 November 2015 (UTC)


  • @LlywelynII: It is the blog that is copying Wikipedia, not the other way round. Also, copy-and-pasting specifications is pretty much unavoidable. sst✈(discuss) 04:46, 21 November 2015 (UTC)







Articles created/expanded on October 1[edit]

Collateral Damage (Millennium)

Moved to mainspace by Grapple X (talk). Self-nominated at 08:51, 1 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Great detail of info, good sources (yet mostly inaccessible), well lengthened, no bloating, and hook cited. However, can you create hooks about the actor James Marsters, who made guest appearance in the episode? I'd like to create hooks myself, but I must abide to WP:DYKSG rules. George Ho (talk) 20:22, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
    I suppose I could, but I'm not sure anything in there about him would be concise enough for the DYK character limit—the bit about him not being recognised during casting would take a bit of explanation, as I see it. GRAPPLE X 23:52, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
  • How about mentioning just his guest appearance and his role as "Spike"? Concise enough? George Ho (talk) 00:04, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
James Marsters in 2003
James Marsters in 2003

Symbol redirect vote 4.svg I wasn't sure whether you are going to do it, but I have an impulse to do something instead.

I'll leave this to you and another reviewer then. George Ho (talk) 18:41, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

  • Symbol question.svg ALT2 is less of a mouthful, and I could see readers more likely to click the featured article over the other links, but it could be reduced. Maybe refer to Buffy and Angel as the Buffyverse (George Ho)? Article is otherwise good for the reasons stated and clear of close paraphrasing. 23W 20:12, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
  • FWIW, there is also a suggested hook which is less of a mouthful and less likely to shunt traffic. GRAPPLE X 22:04, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg New reviewer needed to finish the review and check the new ALT3; it's been over two weeks. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:59, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
Symbol possible vote.svg I can't say that "did you know that this actor known for playing 'x' in 'y' also played 'a' in 'b'?" is particularly hook-worthy, unless 'y' and 'b' were very much against type. (like, say, Leonard Nimoy starring in Baywatch ... but that would be, well, illogical....) I can't see anything else that's really "hooky" from reading the article. Sorry. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:08, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
Not to sound impatient or anything but is there any way we could kind of ringfence this whole James Marsters detour? It's gotten a bit long-winded for no pay-off. GRAPPLE X 12:14, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Here is another suggestion, Ritchie:

I could not insert reference to his role as Spike due to space. George Ho (talk) 23:40, 23 November 2015 (UTC)


Articles created/expanded on October 3[edit]

Fatimid desecration of Jerusalem

Created by Guru Noel (talk). Self-nominated at 16:01, 3 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Considerably problematic in its current form. The article is new enough and (barely) long enough, but I cannot judge it as within policy. Both article and hook present an exceedingly non-neutral point of view regarding the controversial historical figure Al-Hakim bi-Amr Allah. The second paragraph is entirely unreferenced. Whatever the Morris 2005 reference is isn't formatted correctly; it appears to be taken from another article that used shortened footnotes and harvard referencing. Because of this problem, I cannot verify claims sources to it; this is especially problematic because it appears to take the writings of Adémar de Chabannes at face value, which further compounds NPOV concerns. Indeed, the article title itself is problematic, with an alternative such as Destruction of the Church of the Holy Sepulchre perhaps being preferable, if it is even determined that this is a necessary spinout from Church of the Holy Sepulchre. In any case, this article, as it stands currently, is not in my opinion suitable for display on the Main Page. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 16:59, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Comment Thanks for your review. The article has now been substantially re-written to better show clear title is correct and the scope of the desecration to Jewish and Christian sites outside of Jerusalem. Morris source has been replaced. Guru Noel (talk) 21:30, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Still no. This article, from title to text to proposed DYK hook, presents an exceedingly Western/Judeo-Christian biased accounting of the 1009 destruction of the Church of the Holy Sepulchre and its consequences. Neglecting any consideration of the Fatimid perspective is not neutral. Deeming the destruction of the church the "desecration of Jerusalem" is not neutral. Newly-added text equating the actions of Al-Haqim with the Biblical abomination of desolation phrase is absolutely not neutral. The proposed hook is worse, essentially using the words of Adémar de Chabannes to call Al-Haqim the Antichrist. The article's topic is a complex, nuanced, and sensitive event. The article itself is not; I will not approve it for DYK. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 02:32, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Comment Excuse me, but the entire of Wikipedia is Western/Judeo-Christian biased accounting! What do you think our University system is based on? There are no Fatimid perspectives, they all likely killed Al-Hakim. We don't give Hitler's perspective on the holocaust because no-one (or a negligible minority) support his view and think that was a good thing to have done. I don't think you have re-read the article carefully enough to notice that the "desecration" extended beyond the Church of the Holy Sepulchre at all and with that sort of neglect request another reviewer's attention to this article. I have however changed the hook on your advice to make it suitable. Guru Noel (talk) 08:12, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Wikipedia is built on consensus; you are welcome to seek a second opinion, although I assure you that I examined the article, its claims, and its sourcing quite thoroughly. An appropriately balanced, neutral article on the topic would need to address scholars' opinions of Al-Haqim's motivations (which will probably need to address his shifting religious allegiances), such as concerns that the Holy Fire was fraudulent,[1] or that the destruction was potentially taken as a consequence of the complex Byzantine-Arab relations during the period.[2] A neutral article will also need to take a more measured approach to the chain of events connecting the 1009 destruction of the church to the First Crusade. Rodulfus Glaber probably needs to be addressed along with Adémar, and context needs to be provided for their writings (Adémar especially was prone to hyperbole or outright fabrication). The First Crusade's causes were more complex and nuanced; indeed, Al-Haqim was long dead and the church rebuilt before the Crusades were even conceived of. Not all scholars agree whether its destruction was even mentioned by Urban II at Clermont.[3] And, finally, it goes without saying that a neutral article would require neutral language. This is simply not Hitler and the Holocaust. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 14:16, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Thanks for these helpful pointers. It is more complex than the Holocaust. I have made an attempt to incorporate a lot of this information with a new motivations section and clarified the crusades. Guru Noel (talk) 21:07, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg The article is much improved from the state at its original DYK nomination, but I am still not comfortable approving this for DYK. I retain the belief that the title is problematic, and that some of the phrasing (especially, but not limited to, "abomination of desolation") is far from neutral. It remains my opinion that this is not suitable, but the nominator has requested a third party reviewer, and I have no objection to someone else giving the article due consideration. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 14:10, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Thank you for your valuable contribution Squeamish. Much appreciated. I have taken the Abomination of desolation topic up on the talk page and further discussion is welcome there, not limited to that but other possibly problematic phrasing I am open to address. I understand your concerns about title and am open to discussion about that, also the hook. This article has become a bit of a Sherlock Holmes Whodunit case since I started it. After a lot of researching it seems likely in my opinion that Al-Hakim bi-Amr Allah did likely have a Christian mother and did likely execute his uncle Arsenius, Patriarch of Jerusalem as part of the "desecration" for the Holy Fire fraud on the suggestion of the disenchanted Christian monk John, making the whole matter a lot more involved than generally understood, prior to writing the article. I think this clarification of multiple complicity actually presents a great message of peace right now, with everything going on with Shi'ite Muslims and Christians in Syria. Perhaps a revised hook and some advice could put that message across on the main page to your better satisfaction? Guru Noel (talk) 15:49, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
I saw this article on the list of older nominations and came to request it be renamed something more neutral. CF comparable neutral titles 1660 destruction of Tiberias or Destruction of Psara.184.147.131.85 (talk) 15:22, 13 November 2015 (UTC)



Articles created/expanded on October 5[edit]

Chronicler of the Winds

Henning Mankell in 2011
Henning Mankell in 2011
  • Reviewed: The Punishment of Lust
  • Comment: a work by an author who just died, - can we honour him with an image?

5x expanded by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 11:14, 7 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Find another hook. The use of plot content in DYK hooks is generally discouraged. "10-year-old street boy in a port city in Africa" is part of the plot summary of the book, and therefore does not satisfy the inline citation requirement. Otherwise, the expansion is sufficient (494 characters to 4200 characters), the article is neutral and uses inline citations, and the copyvios confidence is acceptable at 36.7%. QPQ is done, and the image is usable. sst✈discuss 08:11, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
  • I tried the other way round: inserted the line in sourced "background", in stronger contrast to the inspector Mankell is known for. Other suggestions welcome, but Africa has to be in it, "My heart beats for Africa". I would like to include the African storytelling, but didn't manage in 120 chars. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:09, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
168 characters. — Maile (talk) 15:47, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
Nice approach, but it's not in the article nor sourced that he learned it "as director", - he may have learned it in the streets. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:48, 13 November 2015 (UTC)





Articles created/expanded on October 8[edit]

Impossible Is Nothing (Iggy Azalea song)

Improved to Good Article status by Coolmarc (talk). Self-nominated at 17:03, 8 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Article was promoted to GAN on October 3, nominated for DYK on October 8.
  • At 6720 character, it exceeds 1500 minimum requirement.
  • Hook is sourced and cited.
  • It is within policy.
  • Nominator has received five DYK credits. The rules are slightly ambiguous ("nominator has fewer than five DYK credits (whether or not self-nominated) then the nomination is exempt from QPQ") so I assume nominator is exempt, but will not be next time.
  • However, the hook is boring and is not interesting. It doesn't even give an example of how or why it received comparisons, and this detail can't be done in a DYK hook. I don't understand why so many clauses are being used either, because it makes it longwinded. Reading the article, a hook about the song being about "underdog triumphalism", or "raps the track's aspirational lyrics with a mantra technique" would be far more likely to grab my attention and make me click to read more. Saying it is similar to Eminem songs without explaining why would not make me click to read more. Symbol redirect vote 4.svg  — Calvin999 18:17, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Hello Calvin999. First of all, thank you for fixing the template for me. This is my first DYK nomination, it was purely by accident. I thought had I explained why it was similar to Eminem's songs, the hook would have become too long. I appreciate your alternative hook suggestions, is there one you specifically think would work? Please let me know. Thanks. CoolMarc 06:50, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
  • I've given you suggestions, it's up to you to provide alternative hooks, not me. You could probably come up with a way of combing both of my suggestions into a short, snappy hook. People will click on that.  — Calvin999 10:38, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the suggestion. That sounds a lot better, though I'm not sure if "underdog triumphalism" needs quotation marks, it's quite a basic, non-bias term... CoolMarc 12:24, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
  • It's a direct quote from a review cited in the article, so best to quote it, because it's quote a specific thing to say. Symbol confirmed.svg ALT2.  — Calvin999 12:28, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
  • No prob. CoolMarc 12:56, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg New reviewer needed to check the ALT hooks. BlueMoonset (talk) 07:43, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg @Calvin999:'s ALT2 simply moves around the words of ALT1 so it reads better, so his approval tick is fine. (However, I tweaked the hook some more to get rid of the apostrophe-s after the page title, which wasn't showing up properly.) I quickly double-checked Calvin999's review and found everything in order. However, the nominator needs to submit a QPQ, as he already has 5 DYK credits. I don't understand how the rule is ambiguous ("nominator has fewer than five DYK credits (whether or not self-nominated) then the nomination is exempt from QPQ"). This nominator has exactly 5 DYK credits, so the nomination requires a QPQ. Yoninah (talk) 21:06, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Thanks for clarifying. It didn't know if nominators had to supply QPQ on their sixth or on the fifth.  — Calvin999 22:08, 7 November 2015 (UTC)








Articles created/expanded on October 12[edit]

Articles created/expanded on October 13[edit]

John Martin (judge)

  • ... that John Martin, first Chief Justice of the Cherokee Supreme Court, had no formal legal training?

Created by Bruin2 (talk). Self-nominated at 21:34, 14 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Nice article. Its long enough and has a good number of cites but one para lacks a ref. I can also see the lack of training mentioned in a note which is cited. Can you move this to the main article as its part of your hook. Pity these are no images. I couldn't see any paraphrasing from the main source which I looked over. QPQ is done and it neutral. Thanks @Bruin2:. Just those two points.... oh and Alt1 looks as if it won't do as the acticle (and the first source) says "His father was John (Jack) Martin, Senior, a white man who was reportedly the brother of General Joseph Martin." - (can you also fix the link to Gen. Martin) Victuallers (talk) 14:56, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
Reminder to @Bruin2: Victuallers (talk) 21:44, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
Hi Victuallers. Sorry for my delay in responding, but my computer has failed. Will take another week or so to get back in normal operation. I was able to fix some of the issues you raised before I lost the computer. Anyhow, I wanted to thank you for taking the time and effort to review the DYK. I see my mistake in ALT1. The judge was actually the nephew of General Joseph Martin, not the grandson. Thanks for catching that. Bruin2 (talk) 17:07, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
@Bruin2: I modded the alt Victuallers (talk) 16:01, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
@Bruin2: .... a week? Victuallers (talk) 12:23, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
Hi BlueMoonset and Victuallers: I apologize for the delay, but I ended up replacing my old computer, which took longer than I had anticipated. But now I think I am good to go. I still need to replace some of my old software, but that doesn't impact my work on Wikipedia. Thanks for your help in the meanwhile. I added some info earlier today. I think the issue of Judge John's relationship to General Joseph is clear now. I've added a couple more citations, too. Do you see any other loose ends that I need to tie up? Bruin2 (talk) 05:07, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
One more thing, I have done a Google search for a usable image of the judge. There are very few images and none of them are clearly marked for the Public Domain. Per Wikimedia policy, we cannot post the others. Do you know any other PD sources for this? Thanks. Bruin2 (talk) 17:14, 21 November 2015 (UTC)




Articles created/expanded on October 15[edit]

Staten Island Railway

Improved to Good Article status by Kew Gardens 613 (talk). Nominated by Oceanh (talk) at 18:39, 20 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Long enough, new enough, within policy, QPQ done. This certainly isn't close to the most interesting hook that could come out of this article; perhaps someone could suggest a few more and I'll pass it? Antony–22 (talkcontribs) 18:42, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
— Maile (talk) 17:08, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
Symbol possible vote.svg Large portions of the article are copied verbatim or very closely paraphrased from this source: http://jcrhs.org/B&O.html. Guess I should have checked that first instead of last. The article should be checked for more instances of copyvios as well. Antony–22 (talkcontribs) 02:06, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
Upon further investigation, the entire History section was a copyvio from multiple sources and had to be rolled back to its pre-expansion state. Given this, I've put the article up for GAR. If delisted the article will not pass DYK, but it could be nominated again if it reaches GA status again in the future. Antony–22 (talkcontribs) 06:35, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svg Hypothetical point if it comes back for a second GA nom. I guess we'd sort it out then. I have just added this bit as this is going to get deleted soon when the day list empties. Victuallers (talk) 09:43, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
Symbol question.svg GA reassessment is underway and the author has been very cooperative in fixing the problems. There's a good chance it will remain listed. I'd rather keep this nomination on hold until the reassessment concludes. Antony–22 (talkcontribs) 18:42, 18 November 2015 (UTC)









Articles created/expanded on October 16[edit]

Welcome Wagon (Veronica Mars)

Improved to Good Article status by Johanna (talk). Self-nominated at 02:04, 20 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Passed GAN on 16 October, nominated for DYK on 20 October
  • Hook and article are within length policy
  • Hook is sourced and cited but it's to a DVD commentary so I can't check it.
  • 4 days after being nominated, a QPQ hasn't been supplied.
  • However, I think the hook itself is really unclear. It reads awkwardly because of the structure of clauses and because the song nor the remix nor the band is mentioned, it doesn't make sense. To someone who knows nothing about the subject, it makes it difficult to engage with because it's not understandable. Also, it's only a premiere when it premieres, after that it is the series opener or first episode. Altered is the wrong word, too. Changed would have sufficed. You don't even link to the song in a pipe, at least, either.
  • Nominated is under-prepared in several aspects as listed and the hook is not good enough/difficult to verify. Surely there must be an article online to support this.  — Calvin999 13:36, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg "4 days after being nominated, a QPQ hasn't been supplied"?? This was only nominated today. "under-prepared" nomination is not a criteria for completely rejecting this. By Reviewed it says "TBD", that means there will be a QPQ. A nominator gets time to do that. Yes, it achieved GA on October 16, in a fairly detailed review by someone who has a few review chops under his mouse. New reviewer needed, please. — Maile (talk) 00:23, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
    • Sorry I got a bit confused. I wasn't well yesterday. I've struck my rejection. New reviewer not needed. Hook just needs rewriting and clarifying. Symbol redirect vote 4.svg  — Calvin999 07:20, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

@Calvin999: I have reworded the hook and supplied the QPQ. Take another look. Johanna (formerly BenLinus1214)talk to me!see my work 02:46, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

It's good that you've included the song and band but I still think some of my original issues are unanswered. It just feels long-winded to me and could be put much simpler.  — Calvin999 08:16, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
Symbol question.svg @Calvin999: I'm not really sure how to shorten it, and I'm not sure which part of it you find confusing. Could you please specify? :) Johanna (formerly BenLinus1214)talk to me!see my work 17:46, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
For example: ... that a remix of "We Used to Be Friends" by The Dandy Warhols was used for the third season premiere of Veronica Mars, "Welcome Wagon"?  — Calvin999 17:54, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
@Calvin999: That looks great. I struck the first one and put that one as ALT1 up top. Johanna (formerly BenLinus1214)talk to me!see my work 22:43, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg New reviewer needed for ALT1 hook, and to check DYK criteria not mentioned in the original review, such as neutrality, close paraphrasing, and so on. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:19, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg This is a newly promoted GA with a very thorough GA review by an experienced reviewer, but I can't really say that I find the reference for the hook fact at all satisfactory. Can you not find a third party source for the remix fact? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:13, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
@Cwmhiraeth: Unfortunately, no. However, I do not see why a third-party source is necessary per se. Johanna (formerly BenLinus1214)talk to me!see my work 03:17, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
You have referenced it to a Wikipedia article and Wikipedia is not considered to be a reliable source, quite apart from the page not mentioning the remix on which the hook is based. In my opinion, if there is no independent source for the hook fact, you would do better to choose a completely different hook which is based on a verifiable fact that is cited to a reliable source. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:17, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
@Cwmhiraeth: I can see why you would think it's cited to a Wikipedia article from the source, but it's actually a commentary on the season 3 DVD from the series creator, Rob Thomas. Johanna (formerly BenLinus1214)talk to me!see my work 16:04, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
@BlueMoonset: OK, I see what you mean, but why three wikilinks in one citation, none of which leads to the required information? I'm going to ask for another view on this. Is this an acceptable source, BlueMoonset? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:10, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Odyssey Opera

Created by Altenmaeren (talk). Self-nominated at 20:40, 19 October 2015 (UTC).

Symbol question.svg interesting company, good sources. I linked many operas, next time please do it yourself. The article is just long enough but could be longer if you wouldn't hide interesting comments in the references. For online sources, you don't have to quote because readers can see themselves. Consider to sift: put useful information in the article body and drop promotional sounding stuff. - What do you think of an infobox? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:20, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
I will work to improve it -- thank you for the useful advice. An infobox would be great, although I don't know how to format them yet. Altenmaeren (talk) 00:51, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
The relevant template could be {{infobox theatre}}, you go there, copy the model and fill the parameters you know, leaving others open or deleting the line if it will never be relevant for this company. {{infobox organization}} might be another option. Compare other articles, I looked at Bolshoi Theatre. Once you started, I can help, but please be patient, I am on vacation, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:41, 27 October 2015 (UTC)






Articles created/expanded on October 17[edit]

Bara Gumbad

Bara Gumbad
Bara Gumbad

Created by AKS.9955 (talk). Self-nominated at 06:11, 18 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Age and size ok. Written neutrally. Hook has cite. Earwig's copyvio detector clear. I don't see in the source where it mentions being thought of as a tomb however...? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 02:37, 12 November 2015 (UTC)



Articles created/expanded on October 18[edit]

Coexist (image)

U2 in Mexico City on their Vertigo tour
U2 in Mexico City on their Vertigo tour
  • ... that the Coexist symbol that U2 used in the Vertigo Tour (pictured) started life as a 3 m × 5 m (9.8 ft × 16.4 ft) outdoor poster in a juried art exhibition in Jerusalem?

Created by In ictu oculi (talk), Dohn joe (talk), and Davidwr (talk). Nominated by Davidwr (talk) at 05:22, 23 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Nominator's comment regarding the image: Although the image's copyright status hasn't been challenged on the Commons, back in 2005 the original designer and the contest sponsor claimed copyright on the original "[Crescent]oe[Star of David]is[Cross]" design and there is good reason to think the original image was not public domain in its country of origin (Poland) and some reason to think it may qualify for a US copyright. Even without a US copyright, the country-of-origin copyright would put derivative works such the image of the U2 concert in which the symbol dominates the image under a copyright cloud. If the "hook" image needs to be unambiguously "free" then I have no objection to using a different image as the hook. See also: Talk:Coexist (image)#Copyright, the reference embedded in that comment, and the discussion at Commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Coexist-bumpersticker.jpg, which I opened back on October 18. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 14:18, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg size and age ok. written neutrally. Earwig's copyvio negative. None of the hooks are riveting, but first hook I think is best. and is reffed and true to source. QPQ needs doing. Also, can anyone update legal section? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 09:32, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
  • QPQ is needed. sst✈, that tool is not always accurate. Looking back through Davidwr's talk-page archives, I find two DYK credits in 2008, two in 2009, and one in 2013, for a total of five. (There was a third 2008 credit, but as Davidwr disclaims it, I didn't count it.) So Davidwr will have to provide a QPQ review, unless someone else wants to donate one to the cause. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:32, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
By the way, to find these I had to dig through my contribution history in the "Template:" and "Template talk:" namespaces and look for page names that had "Did you know" in them. There are a few others I didn't mention where I had input but didn't make the final call. I think there may have been an additional DYN nominated by me in addition to those mentioned by BlueMoonset, but it's possible that I wasn't "credited" with it at the time. It's really not all that important - what is important is that I have been busy with other things on- and off-Wiki and I can't guarantee a QPQ in the next few days. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 03:40, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Very old QPQ accepted. Symbol confirmed.svg per review by Casliber.sst✈(discuss) 14:23, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg To answer Davidwr's question, past work on articles doesn't count, but complete DYK reviews do, since quid pro quo refers to doing a DYK review to another nomination just as your nomination is being reviewed by someone else. I would like to know whether Cas Liber feels the issues he raised (the legal section in particular) were addressed to his satisfaction. Finally, the image has not been reviewed, and must be before the nomination can be approved; I've just trimmed the caption. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:00, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
  • I am not picky one way or the other about the image. It would be nice to use this image but if there is a better/easier-to-pass-DYN-review image for the "grouping" this goes into then go with that other image rather than this one (in other words, don't let procedural delays surrounding this image delay things too long). The image survived a deletion discussion in Commons:Deletion requests/U2 concert images but I'm not sure if it would survive another deletion discussion today - it would depend on whether the participants considered the "home country" of the "coexist" part of the image to be Mexico (where the photo was taken) or Poland (where the "coexist" image was created), and whether the participants believed there was a valid Polish copyright to the "coexist" symbol. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 21:55, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
  • My interpretation is there is enough else going on in the image (one of the most highly acclaimed live rock acts in the world performing) to warrant free use and reckon we keep it. I think 5 DYKs is 5 DYKs and hence a QPQ is required. sorry, missed above. QPQ accepted. And surely we can just check the legal section please? It might be that nothing has happened. If a serach is negative then maybe removing the tag and documenting on the talk page. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 23:40, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Cas Liber, not to be a wet blanket, but I'm not quite sure which QPQ is being accepted. If it's Template:Did you know nominations/Shelby Gem Factory, I honestly don't think it qualifies, since the comments were far from a complete review and the nomination had to be taken over by other reviewers. Your mileage may vary, of course. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:32, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────As I said above, unless I find time sooner, this won't happen until next weekend. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 03:55, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

That's fine. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 04:47, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Comment. The sections "Notable variations" and "Variations" consist of original research. You should add respective reliable sources backing up the ideas, or remove them. © Tbhotch (en-2.5). 00:28, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
    Good point regarding "notable" variations - the claim of "notability" is probably "OR" on my part. I've merged the two sections and removed the word "notable" from the visible text. The 4 listed variations are all cited as to their existence (the Spanish-language U2 version is cited elsewhere in the article). davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 00:59, 24 November 2015 (UTC)










Articles created/expanded on October 19[edit]

Seoul Lantern Festival

2011 Seoul lantern festival
2011 Seoul lantern festival

Created by Misokkkim (talk). Self-nominated at 06:22, 26 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol delete vote.svg: Sorry, but the article is not new enough nor it is expanded 5x within the legal time. Mhhossein (talk) 06:44, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Piotr:I thought you are referring to a consensus! Mhhossein (talk) 09:56, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
  • @Piotrus:: I doubt that the alleged consensus (which I don't find) agrees with nominating after 23 days. It's too late, isn't it? Mhhossein (talk) 06:54, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
  • @Piotrus:I would not call that biting. I was reminding some points to others! Anyway, I'm not the one who makes the final decision so you should not be concerned if there's a consensus over ignoring such rules for newbies. Mhhossein (talk) 07:10, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

Russia-Syria-Iran-Iraq Coalition

Created by Hadi.anani (talk). Nominated by Mhhossein (talk) at 11:36, 22 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg Excellent article, Hadi.anani and, thank you, to Mhhossein for nominating it! It passes all the criteria (Newness - PASS; Length - PASS; Policy - PASS; QPQ - PASS; Hook - PASS) and is enthusiastically cleared for queue. Two notes for any secondary reviewers ... the article says it was "denied by Russian officials," however, that is fine because the hook says "may have been." Also, the sources are in Russian and I can only sketchily confirm them, however, I GF clear it as I've read it elsewhere in non-RUS RS. edit - proposed ALT1 and cleared along with primary LavaBaron (talk) 07:00, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg The article needs copyediting for English grammar. There is one sentence fragment in the lead; many other sentences lack commas, or have noun-verb disagreement, such as:
  • This war is being conducted between multiple opposition and government groups has 250,000 people to be killed and driven more than 10 million from their homes.
  • With most opponents, and their western allies demanding Assad's departure as a precondition for talks, efforts to find a solution has failed so far.
  • Yoninah (talk) 22:47, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol voting keep.svg DYK is not a GA, FA, or A-class review. Grammar is not a criteria. DYK is an inclusive environment that provides an excellent opportunity for non-EFL speakers to promote their work provided it meets a minimum threshold of tightly defined criteria. If you want to terminate this inclusiveness by creating new criteria, you'll need to initiate a discussion, instead of issuing a decree. LavaBaron (talk) 23:01, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Grammar is most definitely a criteria, and it has been discussed extensively by DYK editors over the past year. This will not be promoted to the main page in this condition. Yoninah (talk) 23:17, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
  • I'm afraid you are mistaken, Yoninah. Grammar is only a criteria in the structure of the hook, not material that appears in the article. If I'm mistaken, kindly provide a wikilink to WP:DYK, WP:DYKSG or WP:DYKR to correct me so yet another needless delay doesn't occur. Thanks - LavaBaron (talk) 23:23, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
  • If you want a discussion, don't preempt it by slapping your approval tick on it till we're finished. And stop insinuating your constant putdowns into links. Over the past year, a huge effort has been made to ensure that articles comply with basic grammar rules before they are promoted. Nominators are often asked to contact the WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors for help in bringing an article up to basic English standards. I realize that you are new here and perhaps are not aware of these things, but a little humility, please. DYK is supposed to be a friendly place. Yoninah (talk) 23:51, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
Yoninah - first, do not edit my comments. You are welcome to edit your own, but your latest edit in which you edited mine was unwelcome and inappropriate. This is a fairly basic tenet of WP. For someone who dedicates such volumes of text to repeatedly and gratuitously reminding others of his/her Wikiage, I am surprised you don't know that.
Second, I have repeatedly asked you to indicate where, in the DYK criteria, it says a hook must lead to an article that passes a certain level of grammar standards. A simple wikilink would suffice. Instead, in increasingly aggressive and tendentious tones, you choose to attack my competence with jabs like "I realize you are new here," and so forth. I'm not going to get pulled into the contagion of the latest drama you seem to be trying to engineer, and am simply pinging some other DYK regulars to make a final determination. I won't be checking this nom again. If you are truly here to build an encyclopedia, instead of crowd source a soap opera screenplay, you will agree to a similar disengagement. LavaBaron (talk) 00:06, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
Do you even know how to end a post without a putdown? Yoninah (talk) 00:14, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
Yoninah: Do we really have such strict rules for grammar here? Where is it mentioned? Thanks. --Mhhossein (talk) 04:47, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

I don't think expecting articles to be written in grammatically correct English to be adhering to "strict rules", it's just a regular expectation of articles bold-linked on the main page of Wikipedia. This article needs to be copyedited before it is featured in the DYK section. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:39, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

No. As per WP:WIADYK "Articles must meet the basic criteria set out on this page but do not have to be of very high quality." Unwritten rules, while they certainly have a place, never trump written policy. Since it appears you were summoned here by Yoninah, we should probably get fast resolution out of fairness to the nom and to keep this from becoming a WP:POINTy cattle call of everyone in Y's address book. I'm very concerned this could devolve into charged or xenophobic comments about non-native English speakers based on its current direction. ErrantX~ or Jakec - could you provide some input on whether an alleged unwritten policy trumps the specific community guideline that noms do "not have to be of very high quality?" I would like to quickly replace my Symbol voting keep.svg but don't want to risk an edit war over it, since Yoninah has started editing my comments. LavaBaron (talk) 07:21, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
I can see some minor problems with the prose, mostly odd comma usage. And to be honest, I've read some featured articles (my own included) which misuse commas badly. It seems readable enough to pass the quality margin. However; the article is a bit of a quote farm, has some potential SYNTH and POV issues and may even fail notability. It is now at AFD (putting this on hold anyway) and I suspect it will be validly deleted. LavaBaron; just calm it down a bit. DYK suffered from very poor quality material on the front page in recent years, and there has been a lot of effort (that I saw start in 2013, really) to improve that. There is a balance between rough, unfinished things and low quality. --Errant (chat!) 09:26, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
Symbol possible vote.svg Placing the proper icon for while the article is at AfD. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:09, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

There's a huge gulf between "very high quality" and "written in broken English". This is English language WIkipedia, and as such we should use the English language, not a corrupted, pidgin version, for that try Simple English Wikipedia. The Rambling Man (talk) 15:24, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

You might have a point (although I am not sure I agree in this case). But can I suggest that perhaps your point would be best served by not being unpleasant about it! For example, referring to Simple English wikipedia as a repository for "pidgin english" isn't very nice, helpful, or at all accurate. --Errant (chat!) 15:34, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
Hardly. What is needed as a minimum is grammatically correct English. This isn't an expectation of "very high quality" by any means, nowhere near it. And for what it's worth, I worked at Simple for several years, so you don't need to try to educate me on what it is and isn't about. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:58, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
Seriously? "Broken English?" "Pidgin?" This conversation has become absolutely vile. LavaBaron (talk) 16:17, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
The errors noted above and those which existed in the article when I read it earlier where absolutely examples of broken English. If you can't handle that, I'm sorry. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:58, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
How about asking User:Hadi.anani to fix the alleged problems? Mhhossein (talk) 18:02, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
Wow. Just wow. LavaBaron (talk) 18:22, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
Not at all. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:37, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

As a general reminder - and this is not directed at anyone specifically - let's all please be mindful to present criticism of the hard work of other editors in a constructive and thoughtful manner that respects their contributions and makes an effort to avoid hurting others feelings. Let's all try to keep in mind this is a DYK discussion on a forum that draws in people of all national backgrounds and origins, not a Donald Trump campaign chatroom. Thanks. LavaBaron (talk) 18:22, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Indeed, and as another general reminder, this is English Wikipedia, so articles featured on the main page should be written in English, not some corrupted form which makes little sense to most of our audience. After all, it's the fourth-most visited website in the universe, so we should at least adhere to minimum standards of readability. That doesn't equate to "very high quality", it is "minimum quality", which sadly this article didn't demonstrate when I first reviewed it. The horror and disappointment exhibited by LavaBaron should be re-directed into assisting with making the article of a suitable standard to be featured on the home page of one of the most popular websites ever. The horror and disappointment should not be a poor attempt at indignation and some veiled political correctness campaign where we just allow detritus to be promoted to the main page. Time to get with the programme, we want quality, not super high quality, but sufficient quality that it doesn't degrade Wikipedia's main page quality to a point where people would actually laugh at the poor English. Now then, either become part of the solution, or just bitch about the criticism. Your call. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:33, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
Do you feel better after that? LavaBaron (talk) 21:00, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
You're not helping yourself, but I guess you know that by now; I'm not one of the editors who are seeking your exclusion from the project. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:03, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
Not here to help myself. I have no stake in this article, other than I really hate seeing a good editor turned into a punching bag. LavaBaron (talk) 21:12, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
And I hate to see sub-standard articles on the main page. It's nothing to do with the "good editor", it's to do with those who sanctioned the acceptance of the article. Time to work on that and quit the violins. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:21, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
As previously described, my feeling is your efforts are noble, but would be better served by seeking to achieve community consensus to change the guidelines for DYK from the status quo "articles must meet the basic criteria set out on this page but do not have to be of very high quality" rather than issue decrees. In any case, it's obviously not productive for me to continue this conversation given the rather surprising tone it's taken ("quit the violins," "pidgin English," "bitch," etc.). I'm sorry if I somehow upset you, it was not my intent. I wish you the very best. Your friend, LavaBaron (talk) 21:33, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

I'm not upset in the slightest. I was asked by another editor to comment on this nomination, and I have done so in good faith. That I would prefer to see actual English rather than the broken version I saw when I reviewed the article shouldn't be a surprise to anyone with any competence. If you actually have anything to constructively add rather than simple indignation, please do so, otherwise this discussion is over for me. A basic understanding of writing English is all that's required, yes it's not written explicitly in the DYK guidelines, but honestly, if you need that to be written down, you need more assistance than I will ever have time for here. Good luck with your quest in downgrading the DYK section even further than it already stands, for what it's worth I will always object and remove the kind of "quality" from queues and the main page, like that which was added here, so if you don't like it, deal with it or better, fix it. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:40, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Got it - thanks! (Question - since this is phrased as a response to my comment, would you mind properly threading it so we can keep an orderly progress of discussion for the benefit of new editors who might like to join?) LavaBaron (talk) 21:48, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Hello. I thank you all for commenting on this article. Thanks to LavaBaron's copy-editing the article is better written now. Hadi (talk) 16:54, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
Hadi - it really was a very well written article. The problems were extremely minor. I have a few more corrections to make and then we just need to wait for the deletion nomination to fail and I'll re-approve this. Keep up the good work! LavaBaron (talk) 18:22, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
@LavaBaron: The article is kept! Mhhossein (talk) 12:38, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
Mhhossein - it appears the editor who AfD'ed it immediately merged it into another article after the AfD failed. I'm not sure what we're supposed to do in this case. I'll ask in discussion. LavaBaron (talk) 00:14, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

Symbol confirmed.svg I have finished copyediting this article which, I believe, has removed the minor structural issues that were the only thing holding this from passing. Editing articles I didn't write is not, frankly, my forte so I am happy to re-review, if someone notices I missed something. Please don't hesitate to let me know. Thanks. LavaBaron (talk) 00:36, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

  • I do appreciate your good work. Hadi (talk) 16:20, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
  • I put a note on the talk page about the page title. If this is not an official designation, should the word "coalition" be lowercased? Also, the page is an orphan – no other articles link to it. Yoninah (talk) 13:42, 4 November 2015 (UTC)








Articles created/expanded on October 20[edit]

Pick Me!

Created by Launchballer (talk). Self-nominated at 08:40, 21 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg While the prose size and dates work the references do not, nor can I see the reference for the hook. Have I missed something here? The presenters are named, yes, but the fact in the hook requires the reader to know that they are the same, or so I view it. There is also a technical error in one of the citations. I'd like to see better referencing throughout. I wonder if it passes WP:GNG. Fiddle Faddle 18:58, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
It never ceases to amaze me how people manage to pull out the one statement I'm using as a DYK hook. Reinstated.--Launchballer 21:28, 25 October 2015 (UTC)




Articles created/expanded on October 21[edit]

Silat ad-Dhahr, al-Judeida

Skyline of Silat ad-Dhahr
Skyline of Silat ad-Dhahr

5x expanded by Al Ameer son (talk) and Huldra (talk). Nominated by Al Ameer son (talk) at 20:16, 28 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol delete vote.svg: The article has not become 5x within the last 7 days before the nomination occurred. After this edit, the readable prose were 1375 characters and it never got 5x after 7 days! Mhhossein (talk) 06:35, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
Well, we could just cut out Silat ad-Dhahr, and just go with the same hook for al-Judeida? Huldra (talk) 22:48, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
@Mhhossein: As of right now, thanks to recent expansion by Huldra and Nishidani, Silat ad-Dhahr is a few bytes short of the 5x mark. I could expand it a bit further as well. Is the Silat ad-Dhahr nomination still valid? If not, then yes as Huldra has suggested, we could drop Silat ad-Dhahr and just nominate al-Judeida with pretty much the same hook. --Al Ameer (talk) 04:02, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
@Al Ameer son and Huldra: As the article history shows, al-Judeida have got 5x on 22 October and you could nominate it until 29 October and this is late for that. Anyway, as you have previously nominated Silat ad-Dhahr and the hook is almost the same (is it? I can't see it), I don't really know whether we can change the main bold article. I would ask User:BlueMoonset to get sure. Mhhossein (talk) 04:28, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Mhhossein, if an article is nominated but is short of the required size, we typically give the nominator(s) the opportunity to add to the article so it qualifies. In this case, Silat ad-Dhahr was 1375 prose characters seven days prior to nomination, which would require an expansion to 6875 prose characters. It's currently very close to that 5x expansion at 6659 prose characters, so another 216 will be needed if this is to qualify. As noted, al-Judeida already qualifies. I should note that two QPQs will be required, one for each nominated article—I'm assuming, Al Ameer son and Huldra, that you'll be expanding Silat ad-Dhahr, since it is still valid provided you add the necessary prose. Best of luck. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:19, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Huldra, DYKcheck is the gold standard and 6906 prose characters is 31 more than the minimum you needed. Unfortunately, though, blockquotes specifically do not count toward expansion, which needs to be original prose; I hadn't noticed that you had one quite long quote in the article that, per WP:Blockquote, needed to be set off. So I've done the necessary, and DYKcheck now pegs the article at 6338 prose characters. You'll need to add another 537 at least to get to the 5x expansion level, so I'm afraid it needs more work. Again, my apologies for not checking the article more closely before my earlier post. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:30, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Neither article specifically mentions that its village is mentioned in Crusader records: this needs to be made explicit in both, and the respective sentences given inline source citations, for DYK hook requirements to be satisfied. If that isn't supported by the sources, another joint hook will need to be proposed, or separate hooks made for the two articles. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:00, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
  • @Mhhossein: @BlueMoonset: Ok, where to begin. First, because the hook is not explicitly cited, I'd rather just break this into two separate nominations. I'm not sure about the mechanics of splitting a nomination, but I will write the revised hooks below. I'll do the QPQ reviews within the next hour. Finally (I hope), I will do my best to expand Silat ad-Dhahr today. By tomorrow, these issues should be settled. Sorry for the mess. --Al Ameer (talk) 20:01, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Revised hook for al-Judeida: ... the Palestinian village of al-Judeida was a Crusader estate called "Gidideh"?
  • Revised hook for Silat ad-Dhahr: ... the Palestinian village of Silat ad-Dhahr (pictured) was purchased by the Knights Hospitallers from the Crusader viscount of Nablus?
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg New reviewer needed to check the al-Judeida article and new hook; as of the present time, Silat ad-Dhahr remains insufficiently expanded at 6338 prose characters, so it will have to wait. Al Ameer, I'm willing to give you one more week to finish its promised expansion. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:18, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
  • @BlueMoonset: Thank you for being patient and allowing me more time, but I tried to find more info on Silat and had no luck finding anything significant. @Huldra: and I agreed that if I couldn't expand it further, that we should just drop the Silat nomination and so I'm dropping the nomination. We'll just stick with al-Judeida. --Al Ameer (talk) 18:33, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Thanks for letting me know, Al Ameer. I've struck the Silat hook and removed the DYKmake for it; I have, however, added a DYKmake for you for al-Judeida, since you also have contributed significantly to the article. Note to any reviewer: only the al-Judeida article and hook will need to be reviewed; the image is no longer relevant since it is not of al-Judeida. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:41, 19 November 2015 (UTC)









Articles created/expanded on October 22[edit]

25 (Adele album)

  • ... that Adele had intended for 25 to be about motherhood, but scrapped the idea because she thought it would be too boring?
  • Reviewed: To be supplied

Created by Unreal7 (talk), PokerFace3 (talk), and Moonsprite (talk). Nominated by Calvin999 (talk) at 11:10, 25 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg The article looks great at first sight and meets the criteria regarding freshness and size. However, when I went in to check for paraphrasing by reading through random articles used as sources, I noticed that some of the references do not cover all the information that precedes them. In other words, there is a slight verifiability issue. For example, citation 1 does not say anything about going "out on a high", which appears to be a quote and must be properly sourced. Further down, I am not sure citation 21 credits her motherhood with inspiration. Citation 25 does not mention Jesso at all, though it is supposed to verify the claim that Jesso wrote a song with Adele and Sia Furler. Though I can verify the hook, these inconsistencies should probably be fixed. Surtsicna (talk) 11:55, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg It has been over three weeks, and not only is there no response, but the QPQ has still not been supplied. Action is needed here. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:54, 19 November 2015 (UTC)








Hygrophorus hypothejus

Hygrophorus hypothejus, Finland
Hygrophorus hypothejus, Finland

5x expanded by Casliber (talk). Self-nominated at 12:04, 22 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Sufficiently expanded, meets core content policies. But the article says that its color becomes more intense at first frost, implying that it shows up before then. Perhaps one of these is hookier any anyway, playing on the notion that people will think that the "herald of the winter" is a mythological figure or something (needless to say, they'd do better without the picture):
  • ALT1: ... that the herald of the winter is highly slimy?
  • ALT2: ... that the herald of the winter is edible?
  • ALT3: ... that while the herald of the winter is edible, eating it is not recommended, as it is highly slimy? --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 19:02, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
(belatedly)...errr...could go with any of those I guess...or add an "around" as in "around the time of first frost", for first hook. Will see what others think. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 05:29, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
With AGF for the offline source cited for the hook fact, the article text seems to me to support the "around the time of" (rather than "with") phrasing Cas Liber suggested. The other hooks suggested by Jakob check out as well, though ALT1 may not be interesting enough. I like the way the first hook (as amended) would explain the common name of the species; on the other hand that very completeness might mean fewer clicks. Other opinions? —GrammarFascist contribstalk 19:22, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg New reviewer needed to decide on appropriate hook(s) and finish review. Struck original hook because it remains inaccurate; if it is considered desirable, the revised wording can be proposed as an ALT4. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:24, 19 November 2015 (UTC)



Articles created/expanded on October 23[edit]

Scare PewDiePie

  • ALT1:... that Scare PewDiePie will feature the eponymous host as he explores sets based on video games he commentates on his YouTube channel?
  • Reviewed: Golem Arcana
  • Comment: Not a self-nom (surprised I didn't see this already nominated)

Created by Soulbust (talk). Nominated by 23W (talk) at 18:59, 30 October 2015 (UTC).

  • The article was created on 23 October, so I moved the nomination to another section to reflect the newness of the article. Georgie says "Happy Halloween!" (BOO!) 03:24, 1 November 2015 (UTC)








Articles created/expanded on October 24[edit]

Narayana Upanishad

Vishnu or Narayana
Vishnu or Narayana
  • ... that according Paul Deussen, the Narayana Upanishad (pictured Narayana or Vishnu) can be described as "cult of formula", where meditation shifts from objects and philosophy to that of a specific formula?
  • ALT1:... that the Narayana Upanishad states that one who worships the mantra, "Om Namo Narayanaya", goes to Vishnu's (pictured) heaven, and becomes free from birth and samsara?
  • Reviewed: shortly

Created by Nvvchar (talk) and Ms Sarah Welch (talk). Nominated by Nvvchar (talk) at 15:42, 27 October 2015 (UTC).


Keith White (disabled yachtsman)

White aboard the Marathon leaving port in Dartmouth, Devon in the morning of 25 October 2015 to start his solo attempt
White aboard the Marathon leaving port in Dartmouth, Devon in the morning of 25 October 2015 to start his solo attempt
  • ... that Keith White set out on 25 October 2015 to make a literally single handed solo sailing global circumnavigation. White has only the use of one arm and hopes to be the first disabled sailor to do it?
  • ALT1:... that one armed sailor Keith White set out on 25 October 2015 to be the first disabled person to sail solo round the world. Single handed sailing taken to a new level?
  • ALT2:... that Keith White is going for the hat trick of disabled yachting firsts by attempting a solo global circumnavigation in 2016/16. White only has the use of one arm?
  • ALT3: ... that Keith White set out on 25 October 2015 to make a literally single handed solo sailing global circumnavigation?
  • ALT4: ... that Keith White sailed solo round the UK, solo transatlantic, and is now sailing solo round the world, literally single handed?
  • ALT5: ... that yachtsman Keith White sailed solo round the UK, solo transatlantic, and is now sailing solo round the world, literally single handed?
  • ALT6:... that yachtsman Keith White is going for the hat trick of disabled firsts by attempting a solo global circumnavigation in 2015/16. White only has the use of one arm
  • ALT7: ... that yachtsman Keith White set out on 25 October 2015 to make a literally single handed solo global circumnavigation?
  • ALT8: ... that yachtsman Keith White set out on 25 October 2015 to make a literally single handed solo global circumnavigation. White has only the use of one arm and hopes to be the first disabled sailor to do it?
  • ALT9: ... that yachtsman Keith White set out on 25 October 2015 to make a literally single handed solo global circumnavigation in Marathon (pictured)? White has only the use of one arm and hopes to be the first disabled sailor to do it
  • Reviewed Pick Me!
  • Reviewed War Machine (film)
  • Comment There is limited use, as allowed under policy, of White's own web site under WP:PRIMARY and/or WP:SELFPUB to verify simple facts not susceptible to potential challenge.
  • Comment Please consider adding the picture of the boat, the Marathon to any of the hooks in a relevant position. I have used ALT9 as a possible example

Created/expanded by Timtrent (talk). Self-nominated at 13:59, 25 October 2015 (UTC).


Nancy Cruickshank

  • ... that MyShowcase.com, co-founded by Nancy Cruickshank (pictured), provides training and flextime employment for over 400 women who wish to develop their own beauty business?

Created/expanded by Yoninah (talk). Self-nominated at 10:06, 25 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Sorry, Yoninah, you'll need to provide a wikilink to the title of the new/expanded article. Please let me know if you have any questions. Also, WP:DYK is a good resource for the formatting guidelines required of DYK noms. Once you've fixed this, feel free to ping me and I'll continue the review. LavaBaron (talk) 05:54, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg No, let's get a reviewer who's willing to avoid WP:POINT. But if you do insist on continuing, please remember that WP:DYKR asks for complete reviews that result in a write-up either with approval or with a complete list of all the issues found in the course of the review. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:22, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg I'm quite unsure what WP:POINT you think I'm trying to make, but maybe we keep the personal accusations to a minimum in DYK review templates? Probably not the right venue. WP:DYKR requires a wikilink - plain and simple. One was not included [7] - plain and simple. In any case, thanks for adding the wikilink on Yoninah's behalf! With that I'm happy to say this meets L, N, H, and Q. Great job, Yoninah! I'm unsure if it passes on Policy as the hook seems to be a little promotional. I'm going to solicit a second-opinion at the NPOV noticeboard to provide input on that, however, and will close this off based on their feedback. Keep up the awesome work! LavaBaron (talk) 06:54, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
  • What does the NPOV noticeboard have to do with a DYK hook? Why don't you ask other editors on the DYK talk page? Yoninah (talk) 10:03, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Yes, there are many great resources we, as Wikipedians, have available. I chose to tap NPOV. Hang in there, I'm sure some input will be forthcoming soon. Thanks for your passion about this article! LavaBaron (talk) 16:29, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg I see the hook as entirely promotional, though it can be hard not to have a promotional hook when when attempts to find a titillating hook in an article about a serial entrepreneur who meets WP:BIO but is otherwise not hugely interesting. I can say with clarity that it would be hard to accept this as an AFC draft with this line in the text, for example, so wonder whether it (the line) ought to appear on the main page, even for the fleeting period a DYK is present. I think a flatter yet interesting hook could be made out of the facts surrounding handbag.com, for example. Fiddle Faddle 08:04, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
  • In a way. But the hook also needs to be intriguing, ideally to show something unexpected. ALT1 is certainly marketing neutral to me, but can you also make it in some manner special? Fiddle Faddle 20:22, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
  • ALT2: ... that through her start-ups Handbag.com and MyShowcase.com, British entrepreneur Nancy Cruickshank (pictured) empowers other women to become entrepreneurs, too? Yoninah (talk) 21:30, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
Symbol possible vote.svgI'm aggreeing with Timtrent on this. Words like "empower [to become] entrepreneurs" sounds like something you'd read in an Amway recruiting pamphlet. And the businesses in question, like "MyShowcase.com" (a dime-a-dozen online makeup retailer with less than 3,000 Facebook followers) are so very marginal they really shouldn't be called-out in a DYK hook. Unfortunately I'm not entirely sure what the solution is here. This just may not be salvageable. LavaBaron (talk) 10:01, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
Let me make an attempt, though I think a feeble one. The word 'empower' is an emotive word, a power word, and I agree with LavaBaron on that. But I like the way ALT2 has gone, so let me propose a couple:
  • ALT3:... that through her start-ups Handbag.com and MyShowcase.com, British entrepreneur Nancy Cruickshank helps other women to become entrepreneurs, too?
  • ALT4:... that through her start-ups Handbag.com and MyShowcase.com, British entrepreneur Nancy Cruickshank assists other women to become entrepreneurs, too?
I have tried to keep the juxtaposed paradox than an entrepreneur might be selfish yet helps others, and flatten the wording a smidgen Fiddle Faddle 10:08, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
I'd probably be okay with that if we had a RS that definitively said she was "helping" women. However, unless I'm reading something incorrectly, this is linked to the website of something called "Inspiring 50" which seems to be a non-notable awards program run by non-notable people. It doesn't indicate it has any physical address, it doesn't list how they choose their winners other than maybe the "Co-Initiator" picks whomever she feels good about, and the "Co-Initiator" is someone called Janneke Niessen who I've never heard of and has an adjusted Twitter following of 1900. We see these kind-of fly-by-night awards programs all the time that are largely short-lived marketing projects by one or two people to generate awareness for their own business. I think to say what she's doing is helping someone we need a RS which "inspiringfifty.com" is not. Noticed this is also sourced to a UK trade rag called "Management Today." I'm ultimately just really uncomfortable promoting to the front page some woman's pyramid marketing scheme. Behind all the fluff, the lady basically just has a small business trying to organize Tupperware parties for makeup ("New starters pay £199 for a kit including £400 of beauty products, promotional materials and a white tablecloth for hosting showcases. They also get training and tech support, and MyShowcase.com handles all of the distribution of products.") - except she's layered on getting them tied-into bank loans so they can pay her the start-up costs. This all just sounds really skeezy, frankly. I'd hate to see this on the front page. LavaBaron (talk) 10:22, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
I think that is a valid insight. I was only looking at the wording, not the underlying material. Fiddle Faddle 10:26, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
Timtrent - I just edited my comment, apparently there is another source. LavaBaron (talk) 10:28, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
I do share your discomfort over promoting MLM scheme operators to the main page. However, I am not sure that discomfort is a valid rationale for not doing so. We do hold and showcase articles on many uncomfortable topics. I think we need to fall back on rules rather than your, or my, personal discomfort. If it passes the rules then it passes. If not, then not. Fiddle Faddle 10:33, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg A valid point. I'm going to defer from further review on this one. LavaBaron (talk) 10:38, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Symbol redirect vote 4.svg There is, I think, a reason to pause deliberations here. The article has been sent to AfD and the discussion, should you choose to join it, is at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nancy Cruickshank. If the outcome is to keep the article it may be in the same state as today or in a different shape, and I think we need to return to it then. Fiddle Faddle 11:42, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
Symbol question.svg To new reviewer: please note, the image is watermarked with the URL of the photog's website. Licensing appears to be clear but the watermark seems violative of the general guide that we should "consider the quality of the image." LavaBaron (talk) 18:21, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Symbol redirect vote 4.svg The AfD has been closed as withdraw/keep. This DYK now has no obstacles to a return to reviewing. Fiddle Faddle 09:54, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

  • Thank you, @Timtrent:, for your careful analysis both on this review and on the AFD. I've removed the image from this nomination per your comment. I also prefer "help" over "empower", and have struck the other hooks. Yoninah (talk) 17:32, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
  • The only way any of us can succeed is by removing all emotional reactions to an article or topic or person who is the subject of an article and to fall back on strict yet simple logic and process. I'm glad none of this has offended you. I am standing too close to this to provide a competent review for DYK now, so that is a task I will stand aside from. Others are far better qualified than I am to perform this task. Fiddle Faddle 18:49, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Now that the AFD closed and article issues have been resolved, can we move forward on this nomination? I am relisting User:Timtrent's ALT3 below, and have added a few more alts for consideration:
  • ALT3: ... that through her start-ups Handbag.com and MyShowcase.com, British entrepreneur Nancy Cruickshank helps other women to become entrepreneurs too?
  • ALT5: ... that British entrepreneur Nancy Cruickshank‍‍ '​‍s second start-up, Handbag.com, became the number-one fashion and beauty website in the UK, with 1.5 million visits monthly?
  • ALT6: ... that British entrepreneur Nancy Cruickshank sold her second start-up, Handbag.com, for a reported £22 million? Yoninah (talk) 15:52, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Chinatown, Kuching

Welcome gate to Kuching Chinatown
Welcome gate to Kuching Chinatown

Created by Cerevisae (talk). Self-nominated at 09:43, 25 October 2015 (UTC).



Articles created/expanded on October 25[edit]

Ranjit Roy Chaudhury

  • Reviewed: Gaby Lewis
  • Comment: I found out that it was copied-and-pasted from a user's sandbox on 26 October 2015. It started on 25 October 2015. By the way, I have trouble finding another interesting hook, so this is all that I come up with. Also, it is currently nominated to befeatured as part of ITN's Recent Deaths on the Main Page, but DYK rules won't prohibit the article to appear as part of Main Page's DYK.

Created by Tachs (talk). Nominated by George Ho (talk) at 00:05, 31 October 2015 (UTC).

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Tachs (talkcontribs) 06:29 31 October 2015


Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Full review needed. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:32, 19 November 2015 (UTC)



Sariraka Upanishad

The body is a composite of elements
The body is a composite of elements

Created by Nvvchar (talk), Ms Sarah Welch (talk). Self-nominated Nvvchar. 08:31, 27 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Nvvchar, I added italics to the foreign-language terms in your main hook for you. {{lang}} tags are also needed, but I wasn't certain whether the correct language is Sanskrit or another Indic language — if you could clarify that, I would be happy to add the tags for you as well.
  • I also added the missing "? and the missing word the to your ALT1 hook; the parenthetical (pictured) doesn't count towards the 200-character limit, so that hook is still under the maximum. However, I noticed that the phrase "human body is a composite of constituent elements" does not appear in the article. Also, the phrase "the human soul is the lord of the human body" you put in quotation marks in the hook is not marked as a quotation where that phrase appears in the article. The source cited for the latter phrase is apparently not available online, so I can't check whether it's a direct quotation that needs quotation marks, or a paraphrase that doesn't need quotation marks. Could you or Ms Sarah Welch address these issues? —GrammarFascist contribstalk 21:36, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Added links in the main article for easier WP:V. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 22:30, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Thank you, Ms Sarah Welch. Looking at the article again, I have reworded the original hook so that it reflects what the article and source say. However I think a reordering of that hook might be less confusing; see ALT2 above. Moving on to ALT1, the exact phrase "human body is a composite of constituent elements", doesn't appear in the source, but the sense of that phrase is indeed present, so I have removed the quotation marks. Thank you for the link to the source, that was very helpful. I see, however, that not only does the phrase "the human soul is the lord of the human body" not appear in the cited source (at least not on pages 113–115), there doesn't seem to even be a mention of the soul in that chapter. Perhaps you meant to cite another part of the text? In any case I have removed the quotation marks from that phrase in the hook as well, since it does not seem to be an exact quotation. The phrase "lord of the human body" should probably either be a direct quotation or be removed from both the hook and the article, though, as it is not NPOV. Finally, the caption given for the image is the same caption used for the image in the article's infobox; but unlike the article, neither hook mentions anything about the "subtle body". Perhaps a better caption would be simply "Illustration from the Sariraka Upanishad"? —GrammarFascist contribstalk 15:07, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
  • In the last two lines on page 114, is "(...) jiva is said to be the Ksheṭrajña (the lord of the body)". Indeed, the word soul does not appear in the Sariraka translation, and the translator left it as jiva. But, will an unsophisticated reader know what jiva is, can we use the translation widely accepted, see Jiva in Encyclopedia Britannica? How about we modify "the human soul is the lord of the human body" to "the jiva is the lord of the body" or "the jiva (soul) is the lord of the body"? On caption, indeed, "The Sarira and elements" or something else would be better. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 15:24, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Thank you again, Ms Sarah Welch, I had overlooked that sentence because I didn't recognize jiva as meaning soul. I think that, as you did with the names of the elements, jīva should be included in both the article and the hook, with a link to the jīva article both places as well. See my changes to ALT1 above (and reverse if you disagree). I also made "the lord of the [human] body" a direct quotation since the wording is so close to the source, both here and in the article, where I also added reference and link to the jīva article. —GrammarFascist contribstalk 17:25, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Thanks for the changes to ALT1. They are appropriate and an improvement. I made a change to the image caption above, per your comments on October 30. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 18:54, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

I just realized there was a problem with ALT1: it was over the 200-character limit. I addressed this by removing words I thought were redundant: "Upanishadic" (since the hook already named the text an Upanishad), and the three mentions of "human" following the intralink to human physiology. Please revert these changes if you disagree; I made them in a separate edit for ease of reverting in case it was necessary.
I'm also not sure about the caption. The term "sarira" isn't used in any of the hooks, so readers might be confused about which hook it's associated with on the main page. I'm not sure parentheses are allowed in captions; I know they aren't in hooks, except for indicating there's an image using "(pictured)". What do you think of "The body and the mahābhūṭas" for ALT2, and "Illustration from the Sariraka Upanishad" for ALT1? (Also, if you prefer ALT2's wording to the original, you should strike it through using the <s> ... </s> tags at the beginning and end of the text to cross out.) —GrammarFascist contribstalk 07:18, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
I like your latest revisions to ALT1. Can the caption be, "The body is a composite of elements"? Your thoughts @Nvvchar? Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 04:21, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Ms Sarah Welch Etymology section gives this meaning. May therefore like to suggest an Alt3 hook with the modified text for approval by the reviewer.Nvvchar. 09:08, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
@Nvvchar: I updated the image caption. @GrammarFascist: Other suggestions, comments? Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 11:38, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
  • I feel it is fine now. ALT1 hook should be Ok as revised if acceptable to @GrammarFascistNvvchar. 13:12, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg @Ms Sarah Welch and Nvvchar: ALT1 looks good to me now, and the caption "Body is a composite of elements" is fine except that there should be a "the": "The body is a composite of elements". That caption would work for any of the hooks, though I lean towards ALT1; the other two seem more confusing than interesting despite our best efforts. Unfortunately I can't review this nomination, since I contributed to the wording of the hooks, so I've marked it as needing a (new) reviewer. —GrammarFascist contribstalk 00:24, 5 November 2015 (UTC)




Articles created/expanded on October 26[edit]

Aviation in Indonesia

  • ... that between 2009 and 2014 the number of Indonesia's air passengers increased over threefolds from 27,421,235 to 94,504,086?

Created/expanded by Gunkarta (talk). Nominated by Gunkarta (talk) at 06:09, 7 November 2015 (UTC).


Archibald Main

Created by Gaia Octavia Agrippa (talk). Self-nominated at 12:22, 28 October 2015 (UTC).


Casey Conway

Created by OwenBlacker (talk). Self-nominated at 08:00, 27 October 2015 (UTC).




Articles created/expanded on October 27[edit]

British Committee of the Indian National Congress

Created by Rueben lys (talk). Self-nominated at 15:20, 30 October 2015 (UTC).

Cathedral Basilica of the Holy Family

Holy Family Basilica
Holy Family Basilica

Expanded by Victuallers (talk). Self-nominated at 15:52, 29 October 2015 (UTC).


Estrella de Chile (ship)

Estrella de Chile
Estrella de Chile
  • ... that when the Estrella de Chile ran aground in 1888, the crew climbed into the rigging to escape the rising water?

Created by Philafrenzy (talk) and Edwardx (talk). Nominated by Philafrenzy (talk) at 10:28, 29 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Long enough, new enough, within policy. Hook is good but the paragraph supporting the hook should have a supporting citation (not just the paragraph). QPQ not done yet but as soon as it is, it should be good to go. Yakikaki (talk) 10:35, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Thanks, I have amended the refs. I will do a QPQ shortly. Philafrenzy (talk) 23:18, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg QPQ still not provided three weeks after nomination. Philafrenzy, please provide one within the next week. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:39, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
QPQ done. Philafrenzy (talk) 14:04, 23 November 2015 (UTC)






  • SSTflyer, I have further text to take it over 5x (from 79 to 415 to be exact, excluding section headers and the tables at the bottom of the page). AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 06:08, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol voting keep.svg Rest of review per WilliamThweatt. sst✈(discuss) 07:04, 23 November 2015 (UTC)


Articles created/expanded on October 28[edit]

Yokohama B-Corsairs

  • Reviewed: Micromyrtus grandis
  • Comment: I started this article 7 days and 16 hours ago, so I know that technically I am out of time. I simply forgot to do the nomination. I hope some kind souls will still accept it.

Created by Athomeinkobe (talk). Self-nominated at 00:07, 5 November 2015 (UTC).








Articles created/expanded on October 29[edit]

Military of Mycenaean Greece

Chariot depiction in a fresco from Pylos, Greece, c. 1350 BC
Chariot depiction in a fresco from Pylos, Greece, c. 1350 BC
  • ... that chariots (pictured) in the armies of Mycenaean Greece where initially used as a fighting vehicle while latter in 13th century BC their role was limited to a battlefield transport?

Created/expanded by Alexikoua (talk). Self-nominated at 19:06, 2 November 2015 (UTC).

  • This is not a full review, just a hook suggestion. I think it would be better to wikilink the whole phrase rather than have an Easter egg piped under "armies. I have also corrected a couple of spelling errors,
  • ALT1 ... that in the armies of Mycenaean Greece, chariots (pictured) were initially used as fighting vehicles but by the 13th century BC their role was probably limited to battlefield transport?
However, there is also a problem with "limited to a battlefield transport". The source actually says "The shift from box-chariot to rail-chariot marks the transition from a purely mobile fighting vehicle to a battlefield transport..." It does not say it was only a battlefield transport, and the adjective purely in the first part could be interpreted as meaning it was still used as a fighting vehicle but not purely so. Maybe the source does say this later, but not all of it is visible in gbooks, or maybe it is said in another source. If so, this needs to be in the inline cite. SpinningSpark 19:13, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg This article is new enough and long enough. I have added the word "probably" to ALT1 because that is what the article says and I don't have access to the source. The article is neutral, and the image, dating back to 1350 BC, is in the public domain! I was going to pass this nomination but then I discovered copyright issues with significant copy pasting from this source, see the detector result. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:31, 21 November 2015 (UTC)




Articles created/expanded on October 30[edit]

WSTRN

  • ... that WSTRN bandmember Akelle Charles is the brother of Angel?

5x expanded by Launchballer (talk). Self-nominated at 22:13, 30 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg @Launchballer: the link for Angel goes to a dab page. Also, I'm not sure which or what Angel you mean. So, perhaps you could precede that with a word like "British rap artist" or whatever he/she is. — Maile (talk) 21:58, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
I've added "British " to the link. I don't think it's worth adding "British rap artist" as I believe that an ambiguous hook is a good hook.--Launchballer 09:26, 19 November 2015 (UTC)


Inverted-F antenna

Antenna in DECT basestation
Antenna in DECT basestation
  • ... that the inverted-F antenna (pictured), the most common antenna used in mobile phones, was originally developed for missile telemetry?

Created by Spinningspark (talk). Self-nominated at 18:55, 30 October 2015 (UTC).

Symbol confirmed.svg Fantastic article. Just the right mix of tech and lay explanation. DYK checks green, newness good, length excellent, lots of cites, hook cite, all good to go. Maury Markowitz (talk) 14:29, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

There is a slight difficulty with this submission. I discovered after creating this article that shorted monopole antenna already existed, an alternative, but more obscure, name for the same thing (now redirected). I have not used any material from that article but DYK rules might require the new article to be considered an expansion of this version. I'm not too clear on that point. SpinningSpark 18:55, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

If the original did not get a DYK, and it doesn't seem to have had one, then this gets a bye in my books. Your article is entirely new, and meets expansion anyway, so there doesn't seem to be an issue in any event. Maury Markowitz (talk) 14:30, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
Yes, I didn't think it was a problem, but I just wanted to declare it before anyone else spotted it. Also, most of the material in the old article was about comparing different antennae and would be more appropriate as part of another article. SpinningSpark 15:09, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol voting keep.svg Repeating the tick which, being some way back, may get overlooked by promoters. Hook cite is offline so AGF. I also checked neutrality and close paraphrasing, and the image is appropriately licensed. This article is now a GA so qualifies on that grounds too. Good to go. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:17, 21 November 2015 (UTC)





Articles created/expanded on October 31[edit]

Lutte Internationale

Created by 72.74.202.10 (talk). Self-nominated at 01:10, 6 November 2015 (UTC).

MV KPS7 - Karadeniz Powership Ayşegül Sultan, MV Karadeniz Powership Zeynep Sultan

Created by CeeGee (talk). Self-nominated at 11:41, 5 November 2015 (UTC).

  • This is an encyclopedia. How common is it for an article about a ship to state its current voyage in the WP:LEAD? Do ship articles keep this kind of content up to date or is this overly detailed for this subject? I am leery of content that will be outdated by the end of the weekend.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:02, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Why are so many measurements presented in both English and metric but the cargo capacity only presented in one of the two?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:02, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
  • The articles are free of copyvio.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:02, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
  • The hook is O.K. but I would prefer a hook regarding the elements of the content that are more long-lasting.--23:02, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
  • The hook is 190 characters and there are no images to validate for this review.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:10, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg, if you can't come up with any better hook, I will reconsider this one, but let's try to find something that might still be current by the time this makes the main page.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:12, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

11B-X-1371

  • ... that the experience of watching the "11B-X-1371" viral video has been compared to what characters in The Ring felt like watching the video in that film?

Created by Daniel Case (talk). Self-nominated at 04:49, 5 November 2015 (UTC).

Sarah Poulton Kalley

Sarah Kalley
Sarah Kalley
  • ... that Sarah Kalley (pictured) and her husband started the first Protestant church in Brazil?
— Maile (talk) 16:11, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

Created by Maile (talk) and Victuallers (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 10:32, 4 November 2015 (UTC).

  • DYK's collaboration is still working! Thanks. I prefer your alts, I cannot see the sources but its good to see she was even better than I thought as a subject for a bio. Thanks Maile66 Victuallers (talk) 23:50, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
Symbol question.svg Interesting life, on good sources, JSTOR sources accepted AGF, image is free but a bit on the pale side. I suggest yet another hook about her work for the first hymnal in Portuguese,- more interesting than first church, I think. Please word it, or I can't review. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:48, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
I'm striking ALT3 I just wrote. It's a little iffy to know how many Sarah wrote for the first version of the hymnal, and how I wrote it in the article is correct with the source. According to the source, it was first published in 1861 with only 50 hymns "half of which were written by Dr. and Mrs. Kalley." 6 hymns were added 4 years later, but it doesn't say who wrote them. There were other editions published over the years with more hymns written by other people. Where we get Sarah's contribution is this (p. 265) "The most recent edition of Salmos e Hinos, issued in 1959, contains six hundred and eight hymns and metrical Psalms; the authorship of seventy-two of the hymns is attributed to Sarah Kalley." If Victuallers would like to give a hook a try, maybe he can word something. — Maile (talk) 18:23, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
Comment Just browsing the DYK noms as a new reviewer and I have to say that I disagree here - I think the original hook about the first church is much more interesting than the alt blurbs on writing hymns. As they stand, it appears rather obscure to have written hymns for an 1861 publication; it's not clear that the 1861 hymnal is still used (which it is, according to the article). Also, the number of hymns written is not contextualised so it's rather meaningless - was it 72 out of 75 that she wrote, or 72 out of 500?? Finally, there's no mention in the alt blurbs of Brazil - the reader could get the impression that she lived in Portugal. MurielMary (talk) 10:15, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
Portuguese is the official language of Brazil. So, it's kind of like just because somebody speaks Spanish, it is not the natural conclusion that they live in Spain. Please feel free to offer another hook. — Maile (talk) 17:30, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
Yes, I'm well aware that Portuguese is the official language of Brazil, my point was that when the hook doesn't mention Brazil, a great deal of the interest of her life is lost. I have put up an additional suggestion for a hook as per Gerda's suggestion. MurielMary (talk) 07:26, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
I am looking for a NEW hook. Founding a church is easy, writing hymns that are still sung not so. I will approve the first hook, but hope for something showing her/their special talent better. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:42, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
Taken some of the points above to recreate the hooks Victuallers (talk) 11:15, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
Victuallers Striking ALT7 as not correct. The first hymnal only had 50 hymns "half of which were written by Dr. and Mrs. Kalley." We don't know how many she wrote for the first one. And we don't have an exact count for her contributions until the 1959 edition, which by then contained 680 hymns by a number of people. — Maile (talk) 13:12, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Also, I prefer whichever hook is picked (or offered) not lump her together with her husband, as if her contributions were dependent upon him. If she is notable enough for Wikipedia, she should be notable on her own.— Maile (talk) 13:15, 22 November 2015 (UTC)







Articles created/expanded on November 1[edit]

Baolis of Mehrauli

Gandhak_ki_Baoli (step well)
Gandhak_ki_Baoli (step well)

Created by Nvvchar (talk). Self-nominated at 06:00, 7 November 2015 (UTC).

  • DYK checklist template
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol confirmed.svg Passes DYK checklist. Nice well written article.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 22:21, 7 November 2015 (UTC)


Siedlce Ghetto

Deportation of Jews to Treblinka death camp from the ghetto in Siedlce, 1942
Deportation of Jews to Treblinka death camp from the ghetto in Siedlce, 1942
  • ... that Cypora Zonszajn couldn't live without her closest family and returned to the Siedlce Ghetto to perish along with them (deportation pictured)?
  • ALT1: ... that prisoner of the Siedlce Ghetto, Cypora Zonszajn, who couldn't live without her husband, left the child with the rescuers and returned to die along with him (deportation pictured)?

Created by Poeticbent (talk). Self-nominated at 20:09, 5 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Created Nov 1st. Long enough (8185 characters). Neutral presentation but language sometimes a bit odd! (e.g. "Little Rachel was whisked to Zakrzówek in the summer of 1943"), which is not I suppose a criterion of DYK, but might be reconsidered. Good citations and no apparent plagiarism or excessive quotation.
  • Original hook is interesting and preferred - shorter, and ALT I doesn't add anything. I suggest replacing 'the resuers' with 'her rescuers', which reads better. Hook citation is good.
  • QPQ carried out.
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Good to go--Smerus (talk) 18:49, 7 November 2015 (UTC)


Persoonia terminalis

Persoonia terminalis ssp. recurva, cultivated in Australian National Botanic Garden
Persoonia terminalis ssp. recurva, cultivated in Australian National Botanic Garden

Created by Casliber (talk) and Checkingfax (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 13:16, 3 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Can't resist:
Heh, I'd be okay with that. It's a bit "meta" and best opened up for general discussion to get consensus I think. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 22:42, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
It's a fun idea, but I don't think this should be the hook, solely because the fact isn't mentioned in the article itself. Mz7 (talk) 22:56, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
The plant is not the five millionth article; the article about it is. In other words, this hook is too "meta" in my opinion. Jonathunder (talk) 01:18, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
Yeah, as soon as I think how to mention in article I realise the same thing...oh well...Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 05:02, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
Could there be a little round "milestone badge" like we have for GA's that readers could click on when they read the article? And, IMHO, 5M is more hooky than Torrington Pub. Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 10:29, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment To closer: I believe part of the photo caption needs to be in italics. Please check with Cas Liber.

ALT2: ... that Persoonia terminalis (pictured) has drupes that grow in the Australian summer (December and January) and that P. terminalis is the five millionth article on the English Wikipedia? {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 10:38, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

ALT2a: ... that Persoonia terminalis (pictured), the subject of the five millionth article on the English Wikipedia, has drupes that grow in the Australian summer (December and January)? --PFHLai (talk) 03:30, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Comment: Any hook that mentioned the subject being the 5 millionth article on Wikipedia would be technically unacceptable under DYK rules, which require content in the hook to be directly cited with inline citations. However I guess we may IAR once... sst✈discuss 15:39, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Full review needed, including the various hooks. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:08, 20 November 2015 (UTC)





Philosophy of science

Improved to Good Article status by Hugetim (talk). Self-nominated at 22:12, 1 November 2015 (UTC).

The link would make more sense if the hook ended with "among philosophers of science," but I thought leaving off "of science" made it more concise. -hugeTim (talk) 23:06, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
I shortened the hook. This is my first time doing so, so please feel free to revert if I've messed up. Rotideypoc41352 (talk) 22:59, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
  • (alt1) ... that philosophers of science widely accept that there is no way to distinguish science from non-science?
I can't parse the main hook - I have rephrased it. However I would playfully like to ask whether this is a scientific fact or a non-scientific fact??? Victuallers (talk) 15:14, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
The alt doesn't work. <strikethrough>"Philosophy" (of any sort) does not "accept" things.</strikethrough> However, I recognize that the original wording is awkward.-hugeTim (talk) 18:43, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
I have changed Alt1 although I think your point about whether philosophers or philosophy is a small one. Victuallers (talk) 16:54, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
Alt1 is still not accurate, though, and it is actually not a small point. Most philosophers of science accept that there is some way to distinguish science from non-science, but they just don't agree on how to do it. ("[Kuhn's] and Popper's criteria of demarcation are profoundly different... Philosophers and other theoreticians of science differ widely in their views on what science is. ...almost complete disagreement on the general criteria that these judgments should presumably be based upon." [8]) So the accurate statement is that there is no way to distinguish science from non-science that is widely accepted among philosophers of science. -hugeTim (talk) 16:58, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
  • (alt2) ... that there is no way to clearly distinguish science from pseudoscience or other non-science, no criterion that is widely accepted among philosophers of science?
-hugeTim (talk) 18:43, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Sorry I don't understand Alt2. Maybe someone else can resolve this. I have tagged this for someone else to assist. Victuallers (talk) 16:54, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
Sorry for the confusion. Can you say more about what it is you don't understand about the wording in Alt2? Here's another alternative -hugeTim (talk) 16:58, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
This one is not very hook-y, to my mind. The interesting thing is not that a few philosophers happen to disagree slightly with the consensus (as this wording might suggest), but rather that there is widespread, complete disagreement on such a fundamental question. -hugeTim (talk) 03:16, 19 November 2015 (UTC)




Owen Thomas Rouse

Created by Allen3 (talk). Self-nominated at 20:13, 1 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg Article is new enough, prose is 3,145 chars, within our core policies, neutral, no copyvio issues noted, hook is interesting and less than 200 chars, hook is cited with inline source. QPQ done. GTG. Jim Carter 11:59, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Hi, I came by to promote this, but do not find the hook hooky at all. What do you think about:
  • ALT1: ... that a post in the Arizona Territory wasn't the first or even second choice of future Arizona Territorial Supreme Court justice Owen Thomas Rouse? Yoninah (talk) 23:17, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
Symbol voting keep.svg I agree ALT1 is better. It is supported by refs/inline citations.4meter4 (talk) 23:57, 23 November 2015 (UTC)







July 18, 1998 Albanian–Yugoslav border clashes

Created by 23 editor (talk). Self-nominated at 20:47, 1 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Review:
    1. New YesY
    2. Long enough YesY
    3. General policy (neutral, passes Earwig test, inline cites) YesY
    4. Hook 98 characters YesY format YesY
    5. Content: interesting YesY accurate N cited YesY neutral YesY
    6. QPQ: done YesY
    7. Image - no image YesY
Issue 1. no end of sentence cite after "Of the dead mujahideen, 16 were citizens of Saudi Arabia and one was a citizen of Yemen"
Probable issue 2: no page 41 of The Coming Balkan Caliphate: The Threat of Radical Islam to Europe and the West is available at Google Books.
Possible issue 3. Is The Coming Balkan Caliphate: The Threat of Radical Islam to Europe and the West a reliable source?
review currently failed.
All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 20:31, 6 November 2015 (UTC).
  1. This assertion is sourced, and according to WP:INTEXT the ref doesn't have to come directly after every sentence, especially if the source in question is used to reference multiple claims concurrently (the nationalities of the dead and the presence of forged passports in this particular case).
  2. It was available a few days ago. If you insist on checking the page out for yourself, I suggest entering some relevant keywords and it should come up as a snippet view.
  3. Deliso is a journalist and political commentator who runs a news portal called Balkan Analysis. He isn't an academic, but he is reliable. 23 editor (talk) 21:51, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
According to the review guide:

The hook fact(s) must be stated in the article, and must be immediately followed by an inline citation to a reliable source.

The check-list (which I can't find right now) also states that it must be reffed a the end of the sentence.
Oh here we go WP:DYKDN

D1: The hook may not be written yet, because that's part of nominating. But when the hook is written, the hook fact must be cited in the article with an inline citation, since inline citations are used to support specific statements in an article. The hook fact must have an inline citation right after it since the fact is an extraordinary claim; citing the hook fact at the end of the paragraph is not acceptable. Once again, that rule is only for the hook fact, not for every sentence in the article. (Yes, we know featured articles don't have that rule, but that's because featured articles don't have hook facts.)

All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 01:32, 7 November 2015 (UTC).
You're right. This is only my fourth or fifth DYK attempt, so bear with me. Fixed . 23 editor (talk) 01:56, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
No worries it's my first review. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 23:37, 7 November 2015 (UTC).
OK. I'm declining this, with this hook. The text you are citing says

As skirmishes between KLA irregulars and the Yugoslav Army intensified in spring 1998, material evidence of mujahedin, in the form of dead bodies, began to pile up. One KLA volunteer killed in western Kosovo in May was a Sudanese citizen. Several Bosnian Muslims were also killed. In July 1998, Yugoslav border guards shot a KLA member trying to cross over from Albania; documents found on the man, Alija Rabic, "indicated he was guiding a 50-man group from Albania into Kosovo. The group included one Yemeni and 16 Saudis, six of whom bore passports with Macedonian Albanian names."

(The document Deliso is citing is Tammy Arbuckle (1 February 1999). "Unhealthy Climate in Kosovo as Guerrillas Gear Up for a Summer Confrontation". Jane's International Defense Review. .)
This does not support the contention that 16 Saudis were shot, merely that there 16 listed on a document, that may have had nothing to do with that ambush. Correspondingly I have removed the associated claims from the article.
All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 00:23, 8 November 2015 (UTC).

Symbol question.svg Hook invalid, new hook will be needed. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 01:06, 8 November 2015 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on November 2[edit]

Cāmadevivaṃsa

Created by WilliamThweatt (talk). Self-nominated at 12:08, 8 November 2015 (UTC).

List of writers who have returned the Sahitya Akademi Award

Surjit Patar's Sahitya Akademi Award which he returned.
Surjit Patar's Sahitya Akademi Award which he returned.

Created by Jim Carter (talk). Self-nominated at 11:44, 8 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Article/list is new enough.(expanded). copyvio unlikely, QPQ done. However, article/list seems to lack WP:NPOV. Image is in public domain and used in article. Lead of the list class article has 2098 characters which is good thing to describe the list, but in so vast explanation there is lack of "other side". There is news coverage regarding "criticism of the award returners", it seems that various well known people have criticized award returners including officials of Government of India. Lead do not mention about those things. So work on NPOV is needed for this article/list.--Human3015TALK  12:51, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Well, you see, Human3015, this is not an article, this is a list. And the only area where we can add the "other side" is in the lead. However, per WP:LEAD, we can only add a brief summary of all the broad aspects of the topic. Yes, I can see few criticism from well known people, but they are just too superfluous commentary. It shouldn't be added in the lead. FWIW, there is a mention, "Expressing solidarity and condemning the killings of writers, the Sahitya Akademi, admonished the protesters to take back their awards" in the article. Can you point me to a source where officials of Indian Government criticized the award returners? Thanks, Jim Carter 13:52, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
Jim, Either it is article or list, no policy stops us from creating content with WP:NPOV, it dotesn't matters it is brief or lengthy. Even if 2-3 lines are written still it should be written with neutral view. That is intergral part of DYK checklist. Current version written like there is "really" "intolerance in India". But we don't know the reality, we should present both views. Finance Minister of India criticised them. Top Indian English writer Chetan Bhagat also criticised them. [9], [10]. National award winning lyricist Prasoon Joshi also critisised them. [11]. There are several sources I can provide, there is enough debate and coverage regarding criticism of award returners which is missing from brief description of the topic.--Human3015TALK  14:44, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
No worries, Human3015, I'll be adding some contents from the sources you discovered. Meanwhile, you must note that intolerance in India and such words are inside quotes, and they are directly taken from the immediate inline source. "we should present both views" - note that we can't write anything without sources, and until now, I wasn't aware about this sources. Thanks for understanding, Jim Carter 16:18, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
Questions
  • Whats so special about Surjit Patar returning the award? Is he the first one? Had he done something noteworthy while returning his award?
  • Mostly importantly, why do we need a separate list for all these writers and why cant it be mentioned in the parent article? I see that the list is also at FLC. - Vivvt (Talk)







Tourism in Brunei

  • ... that visitors are expected to follow some Islamic etiquette while touring Brunei?

Created by Human3015 (talk). Self-nominated at 20:18, 2 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svgHi Human3015. New enough check, long enough check, QPQ done, policy: the article is full of weasel words: "According to some sources, Brunei is not particularly strict Islamic country"; need to be fixed. I assume good faith on the citation, but the hook itself is not particularly interesting, as this is the same case in most Muslim countries. Perhaps you need to find another interesting alternatives.--Rochelimit (talk) 14:51, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
  • I was not aware that this article has been reviewed 2 weeks ago. Still, ALT1 is not much common in all Islamic countries, in Islamic countries non-Muslims are not allowed in Islamic mosques, even in liberal countries like India, non-Muslims are not allowed or not welcomed to enter in Mosques, they can see it from outside. But in Brunei, non-muslim tourists are allowed in enter in Mosques, thats why ALT1 is interesting. Anyway, I have removed that weasel word, I will provide another alt..

---Human3015TALK  14:43, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

@Rochelimit: I have done some copy-edit on article, also provided ALT2 above. Though there are sources for Islamic etiquette still I have provided this UK government advisory on tourism in Brunei. Hope I have fixed problems. --Human3015TALK  16:36, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
Symbol voting keep.svg@Human3015:: ok so no weasels detected. FYI ALT1 is actually really common: among other countries, Turkey, Indonesia, and Arab Emirates do it regularly and even provide a mosque tour for tourists. So back to ALT2; it is not particularly interesting. I add ALT3 that I think could be more interesting. Actually there is a lot of interesting article from the the UK government advisory if you would like to add those. But I think for now ALT3 approved for me (I took ALT1 out as well).--Rochelimit (talk) 05:22, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Rochelimit, people who propose hooks are not eligible to review them; as you proposed ALT3, an independent reviewer will need to check it to see whether it meets the various hook criteria. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:57, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Oops, thanks for the reminder BlueMoonset. That's not what I meant, I am merely suggesting Human3015. So let me delete that ALT3 and suggesting Human3015 this hook: ... that the relatively strong Brunei dollar drives tourists away from visiting Brunei?--Rochelimit (talk) 08:49, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Rochelimit, at this point I'm afraid you'd be ineligible to review that hook whether as an ALT3 or as the suggestion above, since it's yours either way. We really do need to find a new reviewer and, at this point, the only hook remaining is the original one. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:18, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
  • I think ALT2 was better, most of tourists in most of countries arrive via air route, but in Brunei 95% arrive via land route which is interesting thing.--Human3015TALK  22:26, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
  • I see BlueMoonset, please what I have left.--Rochelimit (talk) 01:40, 24 November 2015 (UTC)


Balinese traditional house

Created by Rochelimit (talk). Self-nominated at 15:36, 2 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg This article is new enough and long enough. Either hook could be used as both have inline citations. The article is neutral. My only reservation is whether the article is a copyright violation of the two-page, main source Gunawan Tjahjono. The article was written offline and seems so accurately written with such precision as to arouse my suspicion, whereas the final section "Modernization", which has an Indonesian source, is in a different, less precise style. @Crisco 1492: Would you have access to the main source? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:03, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
On further inspection, I see that the nominator includes copyright violations in other articles such as Fort Oranje (Ternate), parts of which are copied directly from this source. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:24, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
Cwmhiraeth I did cited this source clearly in the reference of Fort Oranje (Ternate). True however there is one very similar sentence taken from that source: "In 1599 two Dutch ships under the command of Wybrand van Warwijck arrived in Ternate" and that's it. I rewrote that part to make sure no sentence is exactly similar with the reference: (changed into "In 1599 two Dutch ships led by Commander Wybrand van Warwijck arrived in Ternate")
As for Balinese traditional house, I assure you that they are not copied thoroughly as there is actually very little information from the main source Gunawan Tjahjono, especially regarding the Balinese terminology such as tugu, bale, etc. So to cope with that, I used other sources to "complete" the explanation from Gunawan Tjahjono, For example: the names of the bales from the source Gunawan are very limited in its explanation. So I used another sources to reexplain the Balinese terminology more clearly. While searching for other names, I found out that the names of the bale differ source by source. Finally I concluded that the bale actually has two names: directional name, and the number of post name. So I explained this thoroughly in this article, each bale has two names. None of these are explained in the source Gunawan. So yes, I can ensure you that those have been rewrote and not taken directly from Gunawan. Is this clear enough?
This article I've created with utmost care, I even recreated the diagram of Balinese House from scratch, which took me a week to finish in-between my busy schedule.--Rochelimit (talk) 05:29, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
The example you quote in your first paragraph above is called "close-paraphrasing" and is not allowed in Wikipedia, see this page. I can't check Balinese traditional house but in Fort Oranje (Ternate), one of many offending sentences is:
  • Source: On February 17, 1613, when Pieter Both was appointed the first Governor-General of the VOC, the Decision Letter on February 17, 1613, the Board of Commissioners Heren Zeventien in the Netherlands set the Maluku region as a center of VOC official position and the town of Ternate and Ambon (Amboina) becomes choice of the official residence of the Governor-General.
  • Article: On February 17, 1613, when Pieter Both was appointed the first Governor-General of the Dutch East Indies, the Decision Letter on February 17, 1613, the Board of Commissioners Heren XVII in the Netherlands set the Maluku region as a center of VOC official position and town of Ternate and Ambon were chosen as the official residence of the Governor-General.

@Nikkimaria: I am asking Nikkimaria to have a look as I think this is a bad case of close paraphrasing, and the article has other similar examples as shown by this duplicate detector check, which makes me think you offend in this way often. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:51, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

  • Oops my bad. let me check that article. Thanks for the check tools, it's really helpful. About Balinese traditional house, you can ask people to check. Hopefully I'm assuring you correctly for that one; I've been checking it quiet a while.--Rochelimit (talk) 08:56, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
  • I've noticed that some of the "close paraphrasing" are actually small. The page did mention that all similarities does not necessarily indicate copying has not occurred. I am fixing some sentences anyway. Anyway this is a really helpful link.--Rochelimit (talk) 09:07, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
  • I agree that there are significant paraphrasing issues in this article. Rochelimit, as you note the tool does mention that it has limitations - it's always best to check manually as well, to avoid both false negative and false positive results. For example, "to be completed with one or more additional uses of a toilet, additional side doors, additional side glass-windows, as well as a modern working space and a room for watching television" is not identical to "a Bale Daja has been completed with one or more additional uses of a toilet, a modern working space, and a room dedicated for watching television" from the source and so may or may not be flagged by a copyvio tool, but it's still not appropriately paraphrased. Nikkimaria (talk) 14:37, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
    • That part has more to do with additional architectural elements instead of additional modern room. So a wing dedicated to a toilet, conversion from lattice to glass windows, and additional side door are the main point. I just rewrote that part if that's what you want?--Rochelimit (talk) 01:47, 24 November 2015 (UTC)


Articles created/expanded on November 3[edit]

Saint Stephen's Church, Negombo

Saint Stephen's Church, Negombo
Saint Stephen's Church, Negombo

Created by Nvvchar (talk). Self-nominated at 06:21, 7 November 2015 (UTC).

  • DYK checklist template
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol confirmed.svg Passes DYK checklist. Both original and ALT1 check out and are referenced. Nice picture. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:16, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

  • To be more precise, ALT1 was the hook promoted and the hook fact had been removed from the article before the hook got to the main page. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:55, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
  • True, but then at Wt:DYK it was suggested to use the original hook instead of the Alt1, but that one turned out to be dubious or uncertain as well: basically, the article uses two contradictory sources and makes a WP:SYNTH version of them, picking seemingly random facts from one and from the other even if those are not in agreement. Both sources indicate that the mound is much older than the 1876-1880 dates, but they disagree whether the church is much older as well (and converted to Anglicanism in 1876-1880), or whether it was newly built on an older, existing mound in 1876 or thereabouts. The article needs to be corrected (either present both stories, or give good reasons to only use one or to use a fact from one and a fact from another source), and then perhaps a DYK can be discussed. Fram (talk) 11:08, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Fram Cwmhiraeth This reference [12] has been considered unreliable by User:DoctorKubla and he has deleted it from the article along with the related text. He has suggested that [13] is more reliable. In view of this, the controversy about the date seems to be resolved. Hence, both Original and ALT1 Hooks are no more valid. I suggest the following ALT2 hook now.Nvvchar. 11:33, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
  • ALT2 ... that the area in which the site for building the Saint Stephen’s Church, Negombo (pictured) was chosen in 1876 had previously been known as "The Dutch Fort"?
Or abbreviate it to ALT3. I will leave it to Fram to decide whether the historical problems mentioned above have been resolved. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:57, 21 November 2015 (UTC)


Corruption in Sudan

  • ALT1:... that the EU's Busines Anti-Corruption Portal has warned investors to proceed with caution when operating in Sudan due to Corruption ?
  • ALT2:... that the increasing congruence between the government and the ruling National Congress party has reportedly been the cause of a rise in Corruption in Sudan ?
  • ALT3:... that Sudan promotes a patronage system wherein Islamic contractors are favored for government projects, who then sub-contract to firms connected to the ruling National Congress party ?
  • ALT4:... that Sudanese citizens report that the police are the most corrupt institution in all of Sudan ?

5x expanded by DaltonCastle (talk). Self-nominated at 02:44, 7 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Just to be clear, I will be making more alternatives soon. Also, I will review other DYK pages. I just wanted to make sure I got this nomination up within the seven day limit. DaltonCastle (talk) 02:48, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
  • I have added alternatives to nomination. I am currently in the process to review other pages, as per QPQ. DaltonCastle (talk) 00:36, 9 November 2015 (UTC)


Rangkiang

  • ... that the distinctive roof shape of a Minangkabau rangkiang (rice granary) symbolizes the horn of a buffalo?
  • ALT1:... that a single Minangkabau roof decoration in the a facade of a Minangkabau restaurant represents the rangkiang (rice granary) as a symbol of rice and food provision for people?
  • Reviewed: Tourism in Brunei

Created by Rochelimit (talk). Self-nominated at 14:39, 3 November 2015 (UTC).


Angkor Wat Marathon

Created by Human3015 (talk). Self-nominated at 07:12, 3 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Created on Nov. 2, nom on Nov. 3/new enough. 2344 char/long enough. Neutrally written with in-line citations. No apparent copyvios. QPQ done. No image with nom. Both hooks under the maximum. Issues:
  • I'm confused by the article because it appears that two different events are being bundled. [this article] says the Angkor Empire Marathon (which has a full marathon and a half marathon according to the same source) will be a low season feature and the Angkor Wat Half Marathon will continue to be run in the high season. While the website of the "Angkor Wat International Half Marathon" says it raises funds for the victims of antipersonnel mines and for their ban, the website of the "Angkor Empire Marathon" says that it raises funds for the "Angkor Children hospital, Kantha Bopha children hospital and the Cambodia Red Cross". From the sourcing, neither has anything to do with the other. Is there a source that says they are related?
  • There is no citation immediately following the claim in the file that Arimori organized the first race, though I did find this source which substantiates she started the "Angkor Wat International Half Marathon" none of the citations on the file tie her to the event.
  • There is no citation immediately following the claim that the "Angkor Empire Marathon" is the first full marathon of Cambodia in the body, though it is cited in the lede. Typically the lede has no citations and citations follow the text in the body of the article. SusunW (talk) 23:27, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
@SusunW: Thanks for your detailed review. Yes, these are 2 different events. They can have different motto. The reason to bundle them is that they are "organized", "sponsored", "supported" by same agencies. You can see bottom of both official websites to see name of associates. [14], [15]. Name of the article is "Angkor Wat Marathon" but none of these 2 marathons have same name, one is named "Angkor Wat International Half Marathon" and 2nd one is named "Angkor Empire Marathon". But both are organized by same agency and at same place that is at Angkor Wat temple. So instead of making 2 different articles on 2 marathons organized by same agency at same place I thought merging them under one article will be better thing. Thats why I created separate section for "Angkor Empire Marathon" within same article. And read last para here which says it is first full marathon of Cambodia. I think it is very interesting topic, because many people knows famous temple of Angkor Wat but hardly anyone knows about marathon held there. Running at such historic place around ancient temple complex will be interesting thing and people should know about it, thats why it deserves place in "did you know" section. Thanks. --Human3015TALK  18:57, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
Human3015 Totally agree it is fascinating. As I said in my post to you I had no idea and Angkor Wat has long been on my bucket list. I agree there is probably not enough material to make two separate articles and clearly think the events are notable. Maybe it would be less confusing to name it Angkor Wat Marathons and then have each of them get a separate section? You could explain in the lede about the sponsors and the course being the same and then in each separate part about the charities for each and their creation? Feel free to ask someone else what they think, I think it is a worthy topic, but just needs some tweaks to the structure of the article (and the citations to the hooks to follow the statements). SusunW (talk) 19:16, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 4[edit]

Neth Savoeun

  • ... that the chief of Cambodia's National Police Force, Neth Savoeun, is a member of the ruling party's Central Committee and married to the Prime Minister's niece?

Created by WilliamThweatt (talk). Self-nominated at 10:32, 10 November 2015 (UTC).

Hotel Les Trois Rois

Hotel Les Trois Rois
Hotel Les Trois Rois
  • ALT1 ... that Hotel Les Trois Rois (pictured) is built on the site of "Drei Könige" (three kings), an itinerant merchants lodging thought to be named for the Biblical Magi who visited the baby Jesus?
Offering ALT1 — Maile (talk) 22:39, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Created by Charles01 (talk). Nominated by SSTflyer (talk) at 08:33, 10 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New enough, long enough, well referenced, neutrally written. Most of the sources are in German, so unable to check for close paraphrasing. First hook is AGF and cited inline. The second hook does not align with the wording in the article; the "Drei Könige" (Three Kings) is said to be a common name for inns in that area. If you want to mention the Magi in a hook, perhaps you could provide a reworded ALT. QPQ done. Image appears in article and is freely licensed. Yoninah (talk) 22:12, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
  • I did not provide the second hook. sst✈(discuss) 01:27, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
  • I did not provide the second hook either, and I'm not very good with gratuitous jargon. A translation for "reworded ALT. QPQ" might be useful here! Regards Charles01 (talk) 09:01, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
  • No problem. I just wondered if you liked the direction of the ALT. We can go with the original, but I'm wondering if you want to do something a little hookier? Like:
  • ALT2: ... that Napoleon Bonaparte conducted a business lunch at the Hotel Les Trois Rois (pictured) in 1798? Yoninah (talk) 10:11, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
Works for me. There's something engagingly anachronistic about the juxtaposition of a business lunch, which for me is a late twentieth century construct, and revolutionary emperor and genius military tactician/civil administrator who so troubled a generation of the Swiss two centuries earlier. But it provides a harmless jolt to the mental digestion, and I am keen that wikipedia entries should not be unnecessarily soporific. So yes .... good. Thanks. Charles01 (talk) 10:52, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Thanks. New reviewer needed for ALT2. Yoninah (talk) 15:03, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

  • Symbol confirmed.svg ALT2 has an inline citation and is acceptable. Otherwise, as per Yoninah's review. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 20:51, 23 November 2015 (UTC)


A Boyar Wedding Feast

A Boyar Wedding Feast (Makovsky, 1883)
A Boyar Wedding Feast (Makovsky, 1883)

Moved to mainspace by Godot13 (talk), Hafspajen (talk), and 7&6=thirteen (talk). Nominated by Godot13 (talk), Hafspajen (talk), and 7&6=thirteen (talk) at 01:24, 8 November 2015 (UTC).

  • The article is long enough, new enough and complies with the relevant policies including referencing and copyright. The hook is sourced; personally I prefer ALT1. I am confused about QPQ though. User 7&6=thirteen performed the linked review, but this article has been nominated by user Godot13. That seems to go against the criteria. Godot13, is there an article that you have reviewed yourself? AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 04:43, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
  • AtHomeIn神戸- Thank you for the review. Having never done a joint nomination before I may have messed this up. It was my intention that the three listed in moved to mainspace would also be the nominators, and that the listed review would apply. If I need to also do a QPQ, please let me know and I will. Thanks.--Godot13 (talk) 04:49, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Godot13, I am still somewhat new to this myself and what you suggest does make sense. As long as 7&6=thirteen does not mind then I guess it is no problem. AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 04:54, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Moved others to nomination space.--Godot13 (talk) 05:00, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svgIn that case I see no problem. Thanks for clearing it up. AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 05:03, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

I had gifted the review of Template:Did you know nominations/Hold Me While I'm Naked to the project. Thanks for the nomination and the review. 7&6=thirteen () 10:57, 10 November 2015 (UTC)


Josefa Celsa Señaris

Señaris at conference
Señaris at conference
  • Comment: QPQ is Mary Saran. Its short but long enough I think and another woman scientist. Image of her is unclear but hooky?

Created by Thoughtfortheday (talk) and Victuallers (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 10:02, 6 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg The article is new enough, long enough (just barely) and the hook is verified by a reliable source. However, some minor copy-editing maybe warranted and the list entries all need citations as well. Also see ALT1 as an alternative to better explain the connection of the frog and the subject. QPQ checks out.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 15:15, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the prompt review @TriiipleThreat:. It is short. We cannot spot any copyeditting. Can you fix (or list) please (although DYK does not require perfection). The list entries are references. It would seem odd to reference the references. I'm not sure about Alt1 as it wasn't named after her but after her nickname. Thanks again Victuallers (talk) 15:45, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Yes, DYK does not require perfection and I do not want to hold up the nomination. There are a lot of short-choppy sentences for an article of this size. I suggest combining a few of them. Also IMHO there is an overuse of the pronoun "she", perhaps you could substitute a few of these with her surname. Thanks for clarifying the list entries. Her nickname is apparently derived from her middle name, I thought it would be better to also show the name of the species so readers can see the connection.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 15:50, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
  • I have addressed those suggestions @TriiipleThreat:. I don't agree about the hook. Your alt certainly explains more but I'll let the promoter decide if it is as hooky. I think hooks should be like exotic underwear - they shouldn't show everything. :-) OK? Victuallers (talk) 16:26, 6 November 2015 (UTC)


U.S. Army Herald Trumpets

a drum of the U.S. Army Herald Trumpets
a drum of the U.S. Army Herald Trumpets

Created by LavaBaron (talk). Self-nominated at 01:48, 5 November 2015 (UTC).



Why don't you ask them, what status the image is? Some images on Government websites are third party so don't come under the official exemption. Sfan00 IMG

(talk) 18:19, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

Ask who? The government? LavaBaron (talk) 18:25, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
Good news - Obama wrote me back and told me it's cool, we can use the pics. (Just to be on the safe side, however, I've replaced them throughout with alternate ones.) LavaBaron (talk) 18:54, 5 November 2015 (UTC)


Ecocapsule

Moved to mainspace by Michael Barera (talk). Self-nominated at 04:54, 4 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg New enough. Long enough. Well written and cited throughout. Citations are essentially product reviews; they all say pretty much the same. (A bit too cheery for my taste; wish the cited sources and the article included some potential drawbacks. But the cited articles don't mention them so that's that.) GTG. Hybernator (talk) 20:17, 22 November 2015 (UTC)


Articles created/expanded on November 5[edit]

Genesis Motors

  • Hyundai launched Genesis Motors to target "fat profit margins from high-end motorists to help it reverse out of a protracted earnings slide."

Created by Fauzan (talk). Self-nominated at 05:53, 17 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New enough. Long enough. Well written. Well cited for the most part. Needs a couple of inline citations--I added citation needed tags in the article. Almost GTG. Hybernator (talk) 20:17, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Wat Intharawihan

Wat Intharawihan
Wat Intharawihan
  • ... that the Wat Intharawihan (pictured) was originally called Wat Rai Phrik, meaning in Thai language "Vegetable", was so named as its location was within a vegetable garden?

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self-nominated at 01:48, 11 November 2015 (UTC).





Real ear measurement

Created by Cstokesrees (talk). Nominated by Spinningspark (talk) at 01:56, 6 November 2015 (UTC).

The Shallows (film)

  • ... that both director and title of The Shallows were replaced lately from its originals?

Moved to mainspace by Captain Assassin! (talk). Self-nominated at 18:06, 5 November 2015 (UTC).

Eva Doesn't Sleep

5x expanded by Cambalachero (talk). Self-nominated at 17:00, 5 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg. Article is not long enough at 1432 characters. Dr. K. 00:51, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
Symbol question.svg Hmmm...Shubinator's DYK check says it's 1501 characters (0 words) "readable prose size. — Maile (talk) 16:00, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
Given that over half of the Reception section is quotes (and the section has clear grammatical issues) I'd want more original content, so it will need to be expanded. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:31, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
That's a very good point. I was thinking about that when I first reviewed the article but forgot to mention it. Thank you BlueMoonset. Dr. K. 16:35, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
MS Word word-counter results in 1432 characters. In any case the plot is completely unsourced and the sentence "Pyramide Films bought the rights to distribute the film in France." is also unsourced. Therefore, the sourced content is definitely below 1500 characters. Dr. K. 16:27, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
Dr. K., when I put the prose into MS Word (absent headers and reference citations) I get 1501 characters there as well (we always use the "Characters (with spaces)" number; spaces count toward the 1500 prose character minimum). DYKcheck is the gold standard for DYK and knows what counts as prose and what doesn't (and it makes other important checks as well); you can find out more about it at WP:DYKcheck. Sourced or unsourced content is not a factor in the total count; sourcing is a separate consideration. For fiction, plot sections generally don't need to be sourced: the work itself is considered to be its own source. (Obviously, this is only true for released works, and only if the section is being written by someone who is basing it on having seen or read the work in question; otherwise, a source must be given.) I added a source for the Pyramide sentence a short while ago, so that's taken care of. (For the hook, I would recommend that Cambalachero replace "casted for" with "cast in".) BlueMoonset (talk) 16:59, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
I checked the length again through MS-word and it gives me 1532 characters including spaces. Perhaps I took the 5 to be a 4 when I first checked. In any case MS-word counter is pretty reliable. As far as citations for the text I prefer to give them even for the plot so we don't have any disputes on what details to include. Unsourced material may be challenged and/or removed and that can create problems for articles so short as to teeter on the edge of acceptable DYK length limits. In any case, now that we can agree on the length I will pass the article after I have a final review soon. Dr. K. 19:41, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
Done. I expanded the article a bit more. Cambalachero (talk) 23:29, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg Good to go. More than 5x expansion, length, policy-compliance verified. Hook verified. No copyvio detected. Needs a bit of work on the grammar front but nothing too egregious. Dr. K. 02:35, 17 November 2015 (UTC)



David Wecht

Created by Hunter Kahn (talk). Self-nominated at 03:16, 5 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New enough. Long enough. QPQ done. NPOV. Dup detector on the four sources found no close paraphrasing issues, copyright violations or plagiarism. Decent hook, but "famously" might be stretching it, as it might suggest that he was the first to do so. The hook fact needs a cite at the end of the corresponding sentence in the article. The source does use "famously", but the article only uses "known". Also Cyril Wecht should be linked to in the article and could be linked in the hook. It's a shame that the subject of the article is so boring that we can't find an interesting hook about him. Edwardx (talk) 15:08, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
  • I've added a source to the hook sentence, and added the word "famously" the the article. I believe it's appropriate for the article/hook since it's the same word used in the source itself, but that being said if you have a different word you'd like to change it to, I won't object. I also added the reference and wikilink to Cyril Wecht to the hook. — Hunter Kahn 03:12, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Hi, I also think this is a good hook, especially with the 52nd anniversary of the Kennedy assassination coming up on November 22, but it doesn't reflect the article you're trying to promote. It would better be written: ... that Cyril Wecht famously spoke out against the single-bullet theory in the assassination of President John F. Kennedy? May I suggest an ALT?
  • ALT1: ... that Pennsylvania Supreme Court justice-elect David Wecht campaigned on a "five-point plan" to improve transparency and ethical standards in the state judiciary? Yoninah (talk) 23:58, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
    • I don't feel strongly about which alt is used. I thought the Kennedy fact was the most interesting, but I'm good with whatever. — Hunter Kahn 01:15, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Symbol redirect vote 4.svg New reviewer needed for ALT1. Yoninah (talk) 09:52, 19 November 2015 (UTC)


Articles created/expanded on November 6[edit]

Leo Dee

  • ... that the New Jersey silverpoint artist, Leo Dee, was known for the "staggering technical perfection" of his work?

Created by Delabrede (talk). Self-nominated at 19:55, 17 November 2015 (UTC).

Stanak

Created by Surtsicna (talk). Self-nominated at 13:20, 13 November 2015 (UTC).

National Museum of Vietnamese History

National Museum of Vietnamese History
National Museum of Vietnamese History

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self-nominated at 09:56, 12 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg A couple bytes past the 5x expansion point, date of nomination ok, sourcing fine. No copyvio detected. The picture is nice too, should be highly considered for use on the main page. Will pass after QPQ review. --Al Ameer (talk) 23:14, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Good to go. --Al Ameer (talk) 17:50, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Piotr Domaradzki

Photo of Domaradzki wearing the uniform of the Polish Second Corps
Photo of Domaradzki wearing the uniform of the Polish Second Corps

Created by Roman Spinner (talk). Nominated by Doctree (talk) at 21:36, 11 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Comment I'd suggest using File:W AGKafe.jpg rather than the current photo as Mr Domaradzki was not a member of the Polish II Corps (which was a World War II-era formation), and presumably wore the uniform for some kind of social function or re-enactment meeting. I very much doubt he'd want this photo used in this way, and it's not suitable for the main page given it miss-represents his career. Nick-D (talk) 03:35, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
A proper suggestion. On his user page (edit of 29 March 2012) Piotr Domaradzki wrote the following caption [translated from Polish]: "In the uniform of lieutenant colonel, quartermaster of II Corps (Poland). But no, please do not misunderstand me! I was born after the war…" —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 14:49, 19 November 2015 (UTC)



Enrique Graue Wiechers

  • Reviewed: Beatrice Beeby
  • Comment: All sources are in Spanish. Would like to have up on 17 November for subject's first day as UNAM rector.

Created by Raymie (talk). Self-nominated at 04:09, 8 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg This article is new enough and long enough. The hook fact is cited inline and the article is neutral. The references are all in Spanish so I am not able to assess whether there are any copyright issues. My only doubt is about the hook. Would it be better to add the word "medical" before doctor, because all top academics are likely to be doctors, ie have PhDs? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 08:52, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
  • That's probably a good idea. Raymie (tc) 00:10, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Zodiac P.I.

An astrological clock, showing all the signs of the zodiac
An astrological clock, showing all the signs of the zodiac
  • ALT1: ... that in the mystery manga series Zodiac P.I., teenage detective Lili Hoshizawa uses astrology (astrological clock pictured, showing all the signs of the zodiac) to solve cases?
  • Comment: ALT1 is taken from the lead and plot sections and lacks immediate inline citations.
  • Reviewed: Violeta Chamorro

Improved to Good Article status by Rapunzel-bellflower (talk). Nominated by Oceanh (talk) at 08:29, 7 November 2015 (UTC).

Submarine Commander

Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self-nominated at 14:41, 6 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg New enough when nominated. Long enough at 5977 characters. The article is neutral and adequately sourced. Copyvios confidence 33.8%. The hook is short enough, neutral, interesting, and verified to the online source provided. QPQ done. Good to go. sst✈discuss 08:42, 17 November 2015 (UTC)


Hasta la Raíz

Created by Jaespinoza (talk). Self-nominated at 23:13, 6 November 2015 (UTC).

Tomb of Sikandar Lodi

Tomb of Sikandar Lodi
Tomb of Sikandar Lodi

5x expanded by AKS.9955 (talk). Self-nominated at 19:26, 6 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Date, hook, length, and sources all look good. — Hunter Kahn 03:32, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Hunter Kahn, your review does not cover standard checks such as neutrality and close paraphrasing. (I'm also not sure whether you've covered sourcing throughout or just the sourcing on the hook.) Please check these and complete the review. Many thanks. Also, the hook has grammatical issues ("is earliest") and is repetitious ("is the tomb of Sikandar Lodi" should probably be deleted); here's a suggested (and shorter) alt hook that fixes these issues:
  • Symbol confirmed.svg The article is neutral and the sources are fine. I checked for close paraphrasing and didn't find any problems. I must have skimmed over the grammatical error in the hook, but that was easy enough to fix and I see you've already done so. The review is complete. — Hunter Kahn 18:25, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Thanks, Hunter Kahn. Striking original version of hook with the error. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:14, 7 November 2015 (UTC)




Articles created/expanded on November 7[edit]

Hanlin, Burma

UNESCO inscription of Hanlin - Pyu Ancient City
UNESCO inscription of Hanlin - Pyu Ancient City

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self-nominated at 01:34, 11 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Yet another in a long line of great articles started by Nvvchar. Length after expansion checks out, date of nom, sourcing (including for hook) also check out. Will pass when QPQ review is done. Cheers --Al Ameer (talk) 18:26, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Thank you, pass. --Al Ameer (talk) 20:18, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Alcohol in Afghanistan

Created by Human3015 (talk) and BarrelProof (talk). Nominated by Human3015 (talk) at 02:24, 10 November 2015 (UTC).

  • tweaked both hooks. Article requires a copy edit/co-author and a strong source. Victuallers (talk) 08:44, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
@Victuallers: Thanks for your review. There are strong sources for each claim. For example "ALT1" alcohol was banned after troops "party hard" is supported by this telegraph news, Main hook says that US soldiers are not allowed to drink is supported by this source, same telegraph news says that there is "2 can rule" in Afghanistan, this source also says 2 bottles are allowed.--Human3015TALK  17:10, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Sorry that wasn't a review - it was just a helpful comment. I think you need to find a co-author as your article needs polishing. The accuracy of your hooks is not a problem although the first hook reads a bit oddly and the second one implied that you could import raw alcohol - which is now fixed. Victuallers (talk) 17:55, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
BarrelProof has done some copy-editing. I have added his name as co-author.--Human3015TALK  00:54, 22 November 2015 (UTC)




Marie Lebour

  • ... that Marie Lebour studied the life cycles of marine animals until she was 88?

Created by Keilana (talk). Self-nominated at 18:38, 7 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg New enough, long enough, adequately referenced, neutrally written, no close paraphrasing seen. Both hooks are interesting; I added her title to ALT1. Both hook refs verified and cited inline. QPQ done. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 21:42, 7 November 2015 (UTC)


Reed v. Town of Gilbert

5x expanded by Notecardforfree (talk). Self-nominated at 16:57, 7 November 2015 (UTC).

Cadet Nurse Corps

Recruiting poster for the Cadet Nurse Corps
Recruiting poster for the Cadet Nurse Corps
  • ... that the Cadet Nurse Corps (recruiting poster pictured), established during World War II, influenced the way in which nurses would be educated and trained in the United States?
  • ALT1: ... that the Cadet Nurse Corps (recruiting poster pictured) influenced the way in which nurses would be educated and trained in the United States?

Improved to Good Article status by Pendright (talk). Nominated by Oceanh (talk) at 12:35, 7 November 2015 (UTC).

Vera Lebedeva

Created by Keilana (talk). Self-nominated at 05:31, 7 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg New enough, long enough, meets core content policies. Hook cited to RS. GTG, though you may want to copy the citation so that it also appears in the sentence that the hook is in. --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 13:52, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg This article cites only one source. Per Rule D12, one source is acceptable for an "obscure topic". However, Lebedeva is widely written up in English as well as Russian. I have added a bunch of URLs on the talk page to help improve the sourcing and provide her full name. Yoninah (talk) 01:46, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
  • @Yoninah and Jakec: Thanks so much for your help! I've added material from sources I had access to, that met RS, and that were in English - one of them turned out to be Russian in disguise. If you have access to either the Cook article or the first two books, I'd appreciate some help since I don't have access to either. Thanks again, Keilana (talk) 04:02, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol voting keep.svg Thanks for adding those citations. I also added one. Unfortunately, I cannot access the Cook article. But the sourcing looks fine now. Restoring tick based on Jakec's review. Yoninah (talk) 23:16, 21 November 2015 (UTC)


Articles created/expanded on November 8[edit]

Sar Kheng

  • ... that former Khmer Rouge official Sar Kheng is currently Minister of the Interior, Deputy Prime Minister and a Member of Parliament in Cambodia?

2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by WilliamThweatt (talk). Self-nominated at 19:56, 15 November 2015 (UTC).

Samuel J. Briskin

Created by Onel5969 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:56, 15 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg This substantial article is new enough and plenty long enough. The hook facts have inline citations and either hook could be used. The article is neutral and I doubt there are any copyright problems, but the 180 or so citations deterred me from making much effort to check this. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:28, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Odin Biron

Created by OwenBlacker (talk). Self-nominated at 16:15, 15 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Article is new enough and long enough. The article is sufficiently cited, and the structure appears neutral. However, the hooks need work. I've stricken Alt 0: it is not acceptable for the main page as it needlessly places a living person in a bad light. I slightly modified the grammar and link specificity in Alt 1, which I think reads the best of the lot, although the second part (his low profile in Minnesota), is not mentioned in the article! Alt 2 is not interesting, and and Alt3 has potential, but may not be accurate: the source simply states he started with three words a week before he left, and the hook implies he got the part in Interns soon after arrival (~2005?), when in fact he joined the cast in 2010. I will approve Alt 1 when is fully mentioned in article, or perhaps a new hook could be proposed. --Animalparty! (talk) 08:33, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Charles Beetham, 1936 United States Olympic Trials (track and field)

Created by Sideways713 (talk). Self-nominated at 23:51, 14 November 2015 (UTC).

Stefan Bonneau

Bonneau with UMFN Njarðvík in 2015.
Bonneau with UMFN Njarðvík in 2015.

Improved to Good Article status by Hansi667 (talk). Nominated by TempleM (talk) at 16:47, 14 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Nomination was in time after GA promotion. Long enough, neutral, cited, and no paraphrasing concerns. QPQ completed. Image is confirmed to have free license, and is used in the article with no issues with its size. I'm striking the orig hook, as I'd rather an independent person make such a claim, not the team's executive. For ALT1, I'll assume good faith on the Icelandic source, though the Google translate output is consistent with the paraphrase. However, since Bonneau is still playing, can "was considered one of the top ..." be change to "has been called one of the top ...". Also, I think "by an opposing head coach" can be removed from the hook and the details can be left for the article.—Bagumba (talk) 01:49, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
@Bagumba: How about this one? TempleM (talk) 02:18, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
Symbol voting keep.svg Looks good on ALT2.—Bagumba (talk) 02:22, 22 November 2015 (UTC)


Mai Pokhari

Mai Pokhari wetland
Mai Pokhari wetland
Goldfish

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self-nominated at 02:29, 14 November 2015 (UTC).

Shwezigon Pagoda

Shwezigon Pagoda
Shwezigon Pagoda

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self-nominated at 15:01, 13 November 2015 (UTC).

Chieftain's Salute

Great Highland Bagpipe player
Great Highland Bagpipe player

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 11:37, 13 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Artcile is long enough and posted before due date. Hook is interesting, cited (ref4) and verified. No copy vio noted. Img is freely licensed. Text is neutral. QPQ done. Good to go.Nvvchar. 15:11, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Disappearance of Jerry Michael Williams

  • ... that Michael Williams' apparent disappearance 15 years ago today is the only time the body of someone believed to have drowned in Lake Seminole has not been found?

Created by Daniel Case (talk). Self-nominated at 22:54, 12 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New enough, long enough, well referenced, neutrally written, no close paraphrasing seen. I have one question about the referencing: 9 out of 12 sources are from the local paper, the Tallahassee Democrat. Do missing persons cases have to have wider coverage to meet notability? Regarding the hooks, I struck ALT2 as the least interesting; the others are all verified and cited inline. My preference is for ALT1. QPQ done. Yoninah (talk) 20:22, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
@Yoninah: I did sort of anticipate this issue. would suggest that the fact that the case has been the subject of an episode of Disappeared, a TV show on the Investigation Discovery network, which gets nationwide distribution, as well as later being made available on DVD and streaming media, constitutes that wider coverage. Daniel Case (talk) 00:04, 23 November 2015 (UTC)


Lenape (potato)

  • ... that the Lenape potato was withdrawn because it was toxic but was used to breed other varieties used to produce potato chips?
  • Comment: It will be a couple of days until I can review another nomination.

Created by Smartse (talk). Self-nominated at 13:43, 11 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Creation date and length are fine. The article, very interesting, is very well sourced. I assume AGF on the sources where I have no access. No close paragraphing, plagiarism or copyright issues found using Earwig. The hook is interesting, adequately cited and its length is ok. Let's wait for the QPQ to give the tick.... Alex2006 (talk) 13:20, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol voting keep.svg Very good, in this case, good to go! Alex2006 (talk) 16:31, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Simtokha Dzong

Simtokha Dzong
Simtokha Dzong

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self-nominated at 02:16, 11 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Article created on on December 6, 2009 and 5x expansion started on on November 8, 2015. So fits the length and timeline criteria. References needs correction as 1st and 2nd ref does not link to any of the har refs. I will review further once this is corrected. - Vivvt (Talk) 11:16, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
  • @Nvvchar: I fixed one of the harv ref errors for you - it was just a typo. The outstanding error is referencing "Fellowship". — Maile (talk) 22:28, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Thanks, Vivvt Maile66. I have now fixed the harv eror of ref "FellowshiP".Nvvchar. 01:24, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol voting keep.svg The hook claim is supported by ref 2. I could not review ref 1 and 3 as Google book preview is not available. So AGF here. - Vivvt (Talk) 07:55, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

Shooting of Jeremy Mardis

Created by GrammarFascist (talk). Self-nominated at 18:49, 10 November 2015 (UTC).

Mahbub Alam (politician)

Created by Soman (talk). Self-nominated at 14:54, 10 November 2015 (UTC).

Tsuruko Haraguchi

  • ALT1: ... that Japan's first female PhD, Tsuruko Haraguchi, died from tuberculosis at 29 years old?

Created by 97198 (talk). Self-nominated at 13:50, 10 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Length, date, hook checks out. Text passed for plagiarism at checktext.org. QPQ done. --Soman (talk) 14:30, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
  • ALT2 .. that Tsuruko Haraguchi helped establish an experimental psychology laboratory at Japan Women's University?
  • ALT3 .. that Tsuruko Haraguchi's doctoral thesis Studies on Mental Work and Fatigue was published in 1914?
Suggesting ALTs that emphasis her work. — Maile (talk) 13:50, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
I like Maile66's suggestion, but alos the original hook. Let's combine them! Soman, how does this one look? Mobile Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 04:56, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Reviewer needed to check ALT2B. @Mobile Squirrel Conspiracy: I really like ALT2B, and am striking the original hook and ALT2 in favor of it. I am also striking ALT3. — Maile (talk) 13:06, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
Symbol voting keep.svg New enough, long enough, neutrally written, adequately referenced, no close paraphrasing seen. The first part of the ALT2B hook, about her being the "first", is verified and cited inline. The second part is sourced to a website that my computer keeps blocking because of a virus threat, so I will AGF that fact, also sourced inline. QPQ done. ALT2B good to go. Yoninah (talk) 22:36, 21 November 2015 (UTC)


Maria von Linden

Maria von Linden
Maria von Linden
  • ... that Maria von Linden (pictured) was one of the first women in Germany to be called a Professor?

Created by Victuallers (talk). Self-nominated at 12:07, 9 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Comment Review under way. 7&6=thirteen () 13:05, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
QPQ needed. 7&6=thirteen () 13:34, 9 November 2015 (UTC) Thx! Done! Victuallers (talk) 13:47, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
  • DYK checklist template
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol confirmed.svg Passes DYK checklist.

  • Review Symbol confirmed.svg Good to go! New article, DYK timely nominated. Meets core policies and guidelines, and in particular: is neutral; cites sources with inline citations; is free of close paraphrasing issues, copyright violations and plagiarism. Earwig's copy violation detector: Maria von Linden report gives it a clean bill. Hook is hooky enough, I think, and relates directly to the essence of the article. I took the liberty of moving a prepositional phrase to make it clearer. I would go with the first hook. It is interesting, decently neutral, and appropriately cited. QPQ done. 7&6=thirteen () 14:51, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for boldly fixing rather than listing errors. Looks great Victuallers (talk) 15:38, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
Bolding suggesting ALT2. — Maile (talk) 13:40, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Review Symbol confirmed.svg Good to go! Alt 2 is confirmed as being supported by in line references. But in my opinion it is far less interesting and important than the original hook. 7&6=thirteen () 13:46, 12 November 2015 (UTC)


Princess Lucia

  • ... that only the first three volumes of the manga series Princess Lucia have been licensed in English?

Converted from a redirect by G S Palmer (talk). Self-nominated at 20:35, 8 November 2015 (UTC).



South Branch Tunkhannock Creek

South Branch Tunkhannock Creek
South Branch Tunkhannock Creek

Created/expanded by Jakec (talk). Self-nominated at 14:06, 8 November 2015 (UTC).

French brig Renard (1810)

Fight between Renard and HMS Swallow
Fight between Renard and HMS Swallow

Created by Rama (talk). Nominated by SSTflyer (talk) at 10:04, 8 November 2015 (UTC).

  • New enough, long enough, well written, image appears to be properly licensed, no indication of copyvio that Earwig's tool could turn up. I AGF of the sources in French. The one small thing I might tweak would be the hook: you might consider adding a "the" before "HMS Swallow", while also moving the (pictured) to the end of the sentence. Otherwise, Symbol voting keep.svg good to go. G S Palmer (talkcontribs) 20:13, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 9[edit]

Lukut Fort and Museum

Lukut_Museum
Lukut_Museum
  • ... that in the Lukut Fort and Museum (pictured), the museum has display of traditional culture of the community and the customs, and practice of Adat perpatih (rules of life), typical of the state?

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self-nominated at 01:54, 14 November 2015 (UTC).



MTA Bus Time

  • ... that it took 18 years to fully implement a bus tracking system in New York City?

Created by Tdorante10 (talk). Nominated by Epicgenius (talk) at 20:15, 9 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Comment New York City unlinked - common term. Edwardx (talk) 14:06, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg The article is new enough, long enough and has no evident issues of close paraphrasng or copyright violations. The hook is interesting and within maximum length. QPQ has been met. Alansohn (talk) 16:07, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Cokato Temperance Hall

Cokato Temperance Hall
Cokato Temperance Hall

Created by McGhiever (talk). Nominated by Jonathunder (talk) at 17:45, 9 November 2015 (UTC).

  • I will be reviewing this nomination. epic genius (talk) 01:23, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Symbol confirmed.svg epic genius (talk) 01:23, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

  • Note: The nominator (but not the article creator) has less than 5 DYK credits, so no QPQ needed.
    @McGhiever and Jonathunder: The source for the hook says "The hall was built on one-fourth acre of land bought from the Davo family for $30. Erick Kotila was chairman of the hall’s construction." But it doesn't exactly say that it was built in 1896, just that the society was founded then. epic genius (talk) 01:30, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
A newspaper source gives 1899 for the date built, but other sources, including the NRHP nomination form and a book citation I added to the article give 1896. Jonathunder (talk) 02:07, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
My copious thanks to Jonathunder for the recognition. I'm just wondering if maybe a stronger hook could be "... that the Cokato Temperance Hall was the social hub of a Finnish American community even though its members had to pledge to abstain from alcohol?" -McGhiever (talk) 03:33, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
@Jonathunder: Thanks; I will now mark the hook as "cited," even though new, sourced alternatives have also popped up.
@McGhiever: Yes, That would be a stronger hook than the original. However, I've also suggested ALT2.
Please tell me what you two think about the new "alt hooks," and in meantime, I will get to work on reviewing the article for plagiarism. epic genius (talk) 01:59, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
As per copyvio detector, there does not seem to be any copyright violation of more than 4 words. This nomination is good to go if you agree with either ALT1 or ALT2 within the next day. Otherwise, I will choose ALT1. epic genius (talk) 02:07, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Henderson's

Created/expanded by Smurrayinchester (talk). Self-nominated at 15:03, 9 November 2015 (UTC).

Persoonia bargoensis

5x expanded by Casliber (talk). Self-nominated at 13:15, 9 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg Article expansion new enough, and long enough. Article well cited, with hook cited and verified, offline sources are taken AGF. No policy issues identified in the article. Good to go.--Kevmin § 01:02, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg stop press! added another species! Will do a QPQ shortly...Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 23:00, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol voting keep.svg Persoonia glaucescens expansion new enough, and long enough. The article is fully referenced, with the hook cited and sourced. No issues identified with the online sources, and off line sources taken agf. No policy problems identified with the source. double hook good to go.--Kevmin § 04:02, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

One Voice Children's Choir

Created by Cunard (talk). Self-nominated at 06:21, 9 November 2015 (UTC).

Capitol City Plume Superfund site

Created/expanded by Natawhee7 (talk). Self-nominated at 03:26, 16 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New enough (expansion on the 10th, nom on the 16th), large enough (a 10x expansion to 8000 characters of prose), neutral, cites sources, no copyright violation concerns ([16]), no image in the nomination, and nominator is exempt from the QPQ. I think that a different hook is needed though, since it's clear that the city took great pains specifically to avoid being labeled a Superfund site. How do you like the ALT below? Mobile Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 05:20, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
ALT1 ... that the city of Montgomery, Alabama worked with the Environmental Protection Agency on a plan to clean up the Capitol City Plume so that it wouldn't be declared a superfund site?

Articles created/expanded on November 10[edit]

The Kensingtons at Laventie

The Kensingtons at Laventie
The Kensingtons at Laventie

Created by 14GTR (talk). Self-nominated at 14:48, 17 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article has 3205 characters, copyvio unlikely, nominated within due time. Image is in public domain on Commons. Hook is interesting and sourced. QPQ not needed. Good to go. --Human3015TALK  01:39, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

War of the Maidens

  • ... that the War of the Maidens involved neither war nor maidens, only men dressed up as women?
  • ALT1:... that during the War of the Maidens, men dressed as women attacked forest guards and charcoal burners to defend their use of the forest?
  • Reviewed: Lu Tang

Created by Bowlhover (talk). Self-nominated at 09:28, 17 November 2015 (UTC).

Mary Cynthia Dickerson

Created by Animalparty (talk). Self-nominated at 22:26, 16 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Created on Nov 10, nom on Nov 16/new enough. 5869 char/long enough. Neutral. Cited. No apparent copy vios. Both hooks are below maximum count. Interesting (but tragic) and cited immediately following statement in text. No image with nomination. QPQ done. GTG Thanks for a well written and nicely cited article! SusunW (talk) 05:01, 22 November 2015 (UTC)


O Smach

Created by WilliamThweatt (talk). Self-nominated at 21:28, 15 November 2015 (UTC).

Malé Friday Mosque

Minaret next to the Malé Friday Mosque
Minaret next to the Malé Friday Mosque
  • ... that a coral stone built minaret (pictured) braced with metal strips adjoining the Malé Friday Mosque appears like a wedding cake and is said to be in the form of a "funnel of a cruise ship"?

5x expanded by Nvvchar, SusunW (talk). Self-nominated at 02:43, 15 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Comment - English throughout article and hook is poor, and it needs to be extensively rewritten. pschemp | talk 01:20, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

Try these please:

  • ALT1 ... that adjoining the Malé Friday Mosque is a minaret, (pictured) built of coral stone and braced with metal strips, which is tiered like a wedding cake and looks like the "funnel of a cruise ship"?
  • ALT2 ... that the prayer carpet of the Malé Friday Mosque angles toward the corner of the room so that devotees can pray facing Mecca? SusunW (talk) 01:29, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
  • pschempIt has been edited by User:SusunW and she has also suggested two alternative hooks. I have included her name as co-author.Nvvchar. 04:07, 18 November 2015 (UTC)


Chamarel

Coloured Earths
Coloured Earths
  • ... that a notable phenomenon in Chamarel is the Coloured Earths (pictured) with colour variations noticed due to cooling of molten rock said to be lava of 3.5 to 7 million years age?

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self-nominated at 04:12, 14 November 2015 (UTC).


Xhamadan

Men from Kukes wearing xhamadan
Men from Kukes wearing xhamadan
  • ... that the quality of the embroidering of the Albanian xhamadan would reveal social status?

5x expanded by MorenaReka (talk). Self-nominated at 20:29, 12 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Its article content is to the point and written well. Hook short enough and sourced. No neutrality problems found, no copyright problems found. Image is properly licensed.Resnjari (talk) 04:48, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

Persoonia laurina

Persoonia laurina, Sydney
Persoonia laurina, Sydney
  • ... that the bark of the laurel geebung (pictured) was used by aborigines to toughen fishing lines?

5x expanded by Casliber (talk). Self-nominated at 02:40, 12 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg Article has passed the 5x expansion point, QPQ done, article is well sourced (including citation backing the hook). AGF for the offline sources. No copyvio detected. Image appears to be free. --Al Ameer (talk) 20:25, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Daniel Everett (RAF officer)

Created by Researcher1944 (talk). Nominated by SSTflyer (talk) at 13:56, 11 November 2015 (UTC).


Colombo Marathon

Created by Human3015 (talk). Self-nominated at 01:38, 11 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Commment Hook wordings tweaked slightly. Edwardx (talk) 14:03, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg The main hook and Alt2 are fine. Alt1 isn't supported, and has been struck. As for the formal review: the article is new enough (Nov 10), large enough (2100), neutral, cites sources, doesn't appear to have copyvios ([17]), the hooks that aren't struck are short and cited, and there's no image. I know that the QPQ is done because I moved that hook to prep myself. This is good to go. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 02:08, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

Aiguille de Bionnassay

Summit of Aiguille de Bionnassay
Summit of Aiguille de Bionnassay
  • ... that in 1865 the first alpine climbers to reach the summit of the Aiguille de Bionnassay arrived in a thunderstorm, their ice axes humming with electrical activity (pictured)?
  • ALT1:... that when Florence Crauford Grove and party first climbed the Aiguille de Bionnassay in 1865 they arrived in a thunderstorm with their ice axes humming with static electricity (pictured)?
  • ALT2:... that the longest glacier in Italy, the Miage Glacier, begins on the south east side of the Aiguille de Bionnassay (pictured)?
  • Comment: the source of the hook fact can be found at end of p.327 of the Google books link to account by F.C.Grove, 1866.

5x expanded by Parkywiki (talk). Self-nominated at 17:43, 10 November 2015 (UTC).

Shooting of John T. Williams

Created by Pine (talk). Self-nominated at 17:36, 10 November 2015 (UTC).


Shamus: Case II

  • ... that one reviewer liked Shamus: Case II so much that they suggested rushing out and buying it to ensure there would be another sequel?

Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self-nominated at 14:18, 10 November 2015 (UTC).

Tebello Nyokong

  • ALT1: ... that when Professor Nyokong wrote to her 18 year old self she said, "You believe you can be a wife and a mother and still be a bread winner and contribute to society. And you will"?
  • ALT2: ... that Tebello Nyokong is helping to pioneer a safer method of cancer detection and therapy that does not have the harmful side effects of chemotherapy?

Created by Fuzchia (talk), SusunW (talk), and Victuallers (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 12:48, 10 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Offered ALT2 above. — Maile (talk) 22:14, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg This article is new enough and long enough. I have struck ALT1 as I do not understand it, but the other two hooks are fine, with inline citations. The article is neutral and I detected no close paraphrasing. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:17, 23 November 2015 (UTC)


Bean Boots

A pair of Bean Boots
A pair of Bean Boots
  • ... that Bean Boots (pictured) are still manufactured in Maine and are stitched by hand?
  • Comment: Contadora support group

Created/expanded by Guerillero (talk). Self-nominated at 01:18, 10 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Ok, thanks for clarifying. Nomination is good to go. --Al Ameer (talk) 23:39, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 11[edit]

Hananu Revolt

Ibrahim Hananu
Ibrahim Hananu
  • Reviewed: pending

Created by Al Ameer son (talk). Self-nominated at 23:16, 18 November 2015 (UTC).

Walid Juffali

Created by Edwardx (talk), Gareth E Kegg (talk), and Philafrenzy (talk). Nominated by Edwardx (talk) at 20:36, 18 November 2015 (UTC).

Tourism in Kazakhstan

Created by Human3015 (talk). Self-nominated at 14:21, 18 November 2015 (UTC).

Tourism in Iraq

Created by Human3015 (talk). Self-nominated at 01:48, 18 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Looks new enough and (barely) long enough. Sources look reliable. No plagiarism visible, nor copyright violations on the tools save for a "The association of hotels annouced in 2015 that tourism in Kurdistan is going through worst stages of the season" which may be too similar. However: The article needs a lot of copyediting - "Continued violence discourage" is not proper grammar, for example, I might do it myself tomorrow. The hook might too - isn't "of the ongoing" better? The "is said" might specify who is saying these things. Also, is it necessary for the "UNESCO" section to copy the origin page almost verbatim? Otherwise hook OK (a bit obvious though) and QPQ is done.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 21:06, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
  • @Jo-Jo Eumerus: Thanks for your nice review. I have tweaked hook, done some copy-editing on article for grammar. Name of UNESCO sites will remain same as written in UNESCO list. We usually write same name as written in list. You can read any article of UNESCO sites list they mention name as per list of UNESCO.--Human3015TALK  00:25, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Bat flip

  • ... that bat flips are popular in Asian and Latin American baseball leagues?

Created by Mindmatrix (talk). Self-nominated at 01:40, 18 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg New enough and nominated in timely fashion. Long enough, and no concerns with neutrality, sourcing or close paraphrasing. QPQ met (though rather aged!).—Bagumba (talk) 04:12, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
Yeah, I reviewed a bunch of articles, then didn't participate much in DYK over the past year. I've got a few more QPQs to use up! Mindmatrix 13:37, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Olga Fedchenko

Olga Fedchenko
Olga Fedchenko

Created by DavidAnstiss (talk) and Victuallers (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 15:55, 17 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg This article is new enough and long enough. The nature and purpose of the mission to Turkestan is unclear in the article and the first hook (though I see it in the source) so I have struck the original hook. ALT1 has an inline citation, the image is in the public domain, the article is neutral and I detected no copyright issues. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:35, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the review. She was a "war botanist"(MyPOV) ... I've tried to make this more clear. thxagain Victuallers (talk) 11:44, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Hygrophoropsis

Hygrophoropsis aurantiaca, gills
Hygrophoropsis aurantiaca, gills

5x expanded by Sasata (talk) and Casliber (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 09:28, 16 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svgArticle expansion new enough and long enough. Article well referenced, with off-line references taken AGF. hook cited to offline source, AGF. No policy issues identified and article is neutral. Image is main page compliant. Good to go.--Kevmin § 20:04, 16 November 2015 (UTC)


Fishing industry in Laos

Fishing in Laos
Fishing in Laos

5X expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self-nominated at 02:10, 16 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Expansion is from 532 characters to 4874 characters, enough to qualify. The article is neutral and adequately sourced. Copyvios fine apart from one false positive. The hook is short enough, interesting enough, neutral, and cited to an online source. The image is the own work of a Commons contributor. QPQ done. Good to go. sst✈discuss 09:33, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Mining industry of Laos

Created by Nvvchar (talk). Self-nominated at 01:47, 16 November 2015 (UTC).

Tourism in Syria

Created by Human3015 (talk). Self-nominated at 13:08, 15 November 2015 (UTC).

Portrait painting in Scotland

Self portrait by John Baptist Medina (c. 1698)
Self portrait by John Baptist Medina (c. 1698)

Improved to Good Article status by Sabrebd (talk). Nominated by Oceanh (talk) at 23:28, 14 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg Article is new enough (promoted on the 11th), long enough (the lead is over 1500 bytes), neutral, cites sources, and appears to be free of copyvios (Earwig's tool comes up with a high confidence hit, but it appears to be a mirror [18]). A QPQ is present and the article is undeniably in the public domain. AGF tick because most of the sources - including the hook source - are offline. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 02:55, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Ray Bloch

  • ... that contestants on the 1940s game show Quick as a Flash were given clues in the form of "elaborate dramatizations" or "musical illustrations" performed by the Ray Bloch Orchestra?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk) and Yoninah (talk). Nominated by Yoninah (talk) at 23:34, 14 November 2015 (UTC).


Life Is Strange

  • Comment: The article was expanded on 11 November 2015 as seen in the peer review archive.

5x expanded by Glitchygirl (talk). Self-nominated at 00:13, 14 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg While the article was certainly expanded on 11 November, it wasn't expanded fivefold, which is required per DYK guidelines. So while this article should technically fail this nomination, I'm willing to wait a few days to see how the GA review goes; if it passes, then the article will be eligible for DYK. – Rhain1999 (talk to me) 07:29, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Katyar Kaljat Ghusali (film)

Shankar Mahadevan
Shankar Mahadevan

Moved to mainspace by Vivvt (talk). Self-nominated at 11:16, 11 November 2015 (UTC).

Oboe Concerto (Bellini)

  • Reviewed: TBD

Created by Johanna (talk). Self-nominated at 05:26, 13 November 2015 (UTC).


Ryuya Matsumoto

Ryuya Matsumoto played for the Yomiuri Giants
Ryuya Matsumoto played for the Yomiuri Giants

Created by Athomeinkobe (talk). Self-nominated at 07:34, 12 November 2015 (UTC).


Frederico Marques

Frederico Marques
Frederico Marques
  • ALT1:... that Portuguese tennis coach Frederico Marques (pictured) has participated in an Ironman Triathlon and an Ultraman race?
  • ALT2:... that tennis coach Frederico Marques (pictured) is the first Portuguese to be a member of the ATP Coaches?
  • Comment: This is my first DYK nomination, therefore I am still learning about the process. Even though I am exempt from QPQ, in the next couple of days I would like to make my first review.

5x expanded by SOAD KoRn (talk). Self-nominated at 01:52, 12 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Comment: hook wording trimmed a bit. Edwardx (talk) 14:25, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
Do you mean all 3 of them, or a specific one? SOAD KoRn (talk) 17:12, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
Just the first one - see diff. Edwardx (talk) 19:17, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
Right! I was likely not even thinking when I replied. I liked the changes, thank you. SOAD KoRn (talk) 19:20, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Robert Schmertz (artist)

Robert Schmertz, c. 1919
Robert Schmertz, c. 1919

Moved to mainspace by Seattle (talk). Self-nominated at 00:07, 12 November 2015 (UTC).

  • It would be nice to run this at 07:00 New York time. Seattle (talk) 00:10, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Hasta la Raíz (song)

Created by Jaespinoza (talk). Self-nominated at 22:48, 11 November 2015 (UTC).

Class A Wild Trout Waters

Balliet Run, a Class A Wild Trout stream
Balliet Run, a Class A Wild Trout stream
  • ... that Pennsylvania's 500 or so Class A Wild Trout Waters (example pictured) are the "best of the best" streams for angling in Pennsylvania?

Created by Jakec (talk). Self-nominated at 20:01, 11 November 2015 (UTC).

Tourism in Yemen

  • ... that recently UNESCO has declared an emergency action plan to protect cultural sites in Yemen from destruction?

Created by Human3015 (talk). Self-nominated at 14:08, 11 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Created today, the article is long enough and is within policy. The hook meets the formatting guidelines and verified by a source from UNESCO. QPQ is done. All checked. -- Frankie talk 14:36, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

List of accolades received by The Hunger Games film series

5x expanded by GagaNutella (talk). Nominated by FrB.TG (talk) at 13:28, 11 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg @FrB.TG: Needs a new hook. Firstly, the bolded article is about the awards received by the series, so the hook should be related to that. Secondly, the current hook – a statement of which film in a four-film series earned the most money – is not particularly interesting anyway. 97198 (talk) 13:01, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
@97198: Okay, how about this one as I can not find any other interesting one. -- Frankie talk 17:00, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
ALT1: ... that the accolades received by The Hunger Games film series include nine MTV Movie Awards, seven People's Choice Awards, a Grammy Award and three Golden Globe Award nominations?


Articles created/expanded on November 12[edit]

Camden Crawl

Mouse on Mars performed at Camden Crawl in 2007 and 2014
Mouse on Mars performed at Camden Crawl in 2007 and 2014
  • ... that Camden Crawl (performer pictured) was the UK's first urban microfestival?

Created by GrammarFascist (talk). Self-nominated at 04:10, 19 November 2015 (UTC).

Idelisa Bonnelly

Created by SusunW (talk). Self-nominated at 15:23, 14 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article is of sufficient length and posted before due date. Hooks are interesting well cited and verified. No copy vio detected. Text is neutral. QPQ done. I prefer the original hook. Good to go.Nvvchar. 01:10, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

Zahir al-Umar

Zahir al-Umar
Zahir al-Umar
  • ... that Zahir al-Umar (pictured) was the autonomous Arab ruler of northern Palestine in the mid-18th century?

Improved to Good Article status by Al Ameer son (talk). Nominated by Oceanh (talk) at 20:32, 17 November 2015 (UTC).

Dahla Dam

Dahla Dam in Kandahar Province
Dahla Dam in Kandahar Province
  • ... that the Dahla Dam (pictured) was first built with full funding and technical support of the US government between 1950 to 1952 during the reign of Zahir Shah, the last King of Afghanistan?

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self-nominated at 08:36, 17 November 2015 (UTC).

Almond production in Afghanistan

Almond trees in Zabul Province
Almond trees in Zabul Province
  • ... that the preferred markets for export of Afghan almonds (pictured almond trees) is to India and Pakistan, with the former preferred because of better profitability?

Created by Nvvchar (talk). Self-nominated at 07:47, 17 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Article is new enough, long enough, references check out (no apparent plagiarism) - Ref #2 need to include details on how to access the figures - Ref #7 need to fix accessdate in citation - Ref #8 no need for title to be capitalized & what is an odf?. In the last paragraph what does :15 mean?
The hook is short enough but I'm guessing that the hook should read "with the former preferred because of better profitability". Dan arndt (talk) 12:31, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Dan arndt Thanks for the review. Sorry for the spelling error. Corrected in the main hook.Nvvchar. 16:14, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Needs to be corrected in the article as well.Dan arndt (talk) 01:47, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Valletta Summit on Migration

Created by Xwejnusgozo (talk). Nominated by George Ho (talk) at 04:48, 15 November 2015 (UTC).

A New System of Domestic Cookery

Frontispiece of A New System of Domestic Cookery
Frontispiece of A New System of Domestic Cookery

Improved to Good Article status by Chiswick Chap (talk). Nominated by Oceanh (talk) at 02:17, 15 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg The article is new enough (promoted on the 12th), long enough (6300), within policy, the hook is short enough and cited directly, the image is in the public domain, and there's a QPQ. I wasn't able to get the Earwig tool to load, but some brief spot checking didn't turn up anything untoward. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 05:40, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
Earwig Copyright Violation Detector A New System of Domestic Cookery 7&6=thirteen () 20:15, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg Thank you thirteen. This is still good to go. Mobile Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 23:31, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Fallout Shelter

  • ... that Fallout Shelter became the most popular iOS application in the US and UK within a day of its release?

Improved to Good Article status by Kiyoshiendo (talk) and Famous Hobo (talk). Nominated by SSTflyer (talk) at 17:53, 14 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg This article is new enough (promoted on the 12th), long enough (6300), within policy, the hook is short and cited, there is no image, there's a QPQ, and there's no image. I'm having issues with the Earwig tool not loading at the moment, but some brief spotchecking didn't turn up any copyvios. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 05:25, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

Hodgson's giant flying squirrel

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 06:32, 14 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg 5x expanded within the past week, article meets the guidelines, the hook is interesting and within policy, and QPQ is done. TempleM (talk) 16:42, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

Eurasian bittern

Eurasian bittern
Eurasian bittern
  • ... that the Eurasian bittern (pictured) may visit reedbeds, rice fields, watercress beds, fish farms, gravel pits, sewage works, ditches, flooded areas and marshes?

Improved to Good Article status by Cwmhiraeth (talk) and Chiswick Chap (talk). Nominated by Oceanh (talk) at 19:01, 13 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg New enough GA, long enough, neutral, cited, copyvio checks only turned up mirrors, hook is interesting and cited, QPQ done, image is free. Good to go. Keilana (talk) 22:07, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Liao Changyong

  • ... that baritone Liao Changyong won first prize in three different international singing competitions in 1997?

Created/expanded by 4meter4 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:15, 13 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg I made some edits, but I hope this does not affect my review. Sources are reliable, although some are inaccessible, making thorough browsing in Google harder. Information adequate. Hooks well cited and decently interesting. Nothing special; just simple biography storytelling. I like original hook more. QPQ valid. George Ho (talk) 22:04, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

Mary Louisa Armitt

Mary Louis Armitt
Mary Louis Armitt

Created by Victuallers (talk). Self-nominated at 15:49, 13 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svgDate, creation, referencing, verifiability for the hook, and image usability all check out. Article follows wikipedia's policies. QPQ is good too. Nice work!4meter4 (talk) 16:14, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Giovanni Mangone

Pantheon in Rome in 1836
Pantheon in Rome in 1836

Created by Alessandro57 (talk). Self-nominated at 06:35, 13 November 2015 (UTC).

Patrick Beilein

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self-nominated at 02:36, 13 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Artcille is long enough and posted by due date. Hook is interesting, cited and verified. No copy vio noted. Text is neutral. QPQ done. Good to go.Nvvchar. 07:54, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Mia Matsumiya

  • ... that violinist Mia Matsumiya, who created a popular Instagram account highlighting the online harassment that she had faced, used to hide in band lockers in middle school due to her small stature?

Created by Ktr101 (talk). Self-nominated at 18:33, 12 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article is 5x expanded, long enough at 1584 characters, and thoroughly referenced. Hook is interesting/fun, short enough and referenced, but could be improved by shortening. QPQ done. No image. FunkyCanute (talk) 15:15, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
  • There are several facts in the hook: she's a violinst, set up an Instagram account, she was the victim of online harassment, she's small, she used to hide in lockers at school. Perhaps dropping one of these - I suggest the Instagram part - would make it snappier. There are also several superfluous words that could be removed. For example, the last phrase could read 'was small enough to hide in band lockers at school', which is 5 syllables shorter. FunkyCanute (talk) 09:31, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
  • I would be fine with removing the violinist part, as I think at this point it is the Instagram account that has gotten more mentions. One alternative would be to remove the violinist part and the specifics around the Instagram account, and state something along the lines of "...that Mia Matsumiya, who created the Instagram account "Perv magnet", used to hide in band lockers in middle school due to her small stature?" Kevin Rutherford (talk) 07:05, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Thomas Bailey Marquis

CreatedMoved to mainspace by Spinningspark (talk). Self-nominated at 17:52, 12 November 2015 (UTC).


List of international cricket five-wicket hauls by Shakib Al Hasan

5x expanded by Vensatry (talk). Self-nominated at 12:05, 12 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Commment Hook trimmed. Edwardx (talk) 13:58, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article is long enough and posted by due date. Hook is interesting, cited and verifed. No copy vio detected. Text is neutral. QPQ done. Good to go.Nvvchar. 08:02, 17 November 2015 (UTC)


Her Humble Ministry

A still from Her Humble Ministry (1911)
A still from Her Humble Ministry (1911)

Created by 23W (talk). Self-nominated at 00:45, 12 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg. The first hook is more or less cited, but Lawrence isn't the character in the film and no names are given for who plays whom. The second hook as it stands isn't cited, because it isn't clear that the thief played by Johnson is the one described. QPQ not yet done. Perhaps you could add the names of the characters in the film to make things clearer, improve the referencing, and/or tweak one or both hooks? Image is public domain, other criteria are met. Moonraker (talk) 04:50, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
  • The characters are anonymous in the film. Rabkin 1998 shorthandedly refers to the woman as Lawrence; Moving Picture World calls her "Flo" (cute). I thought the original hook was funny, but if it's too informal I have a few more:
  • 23W 22:54, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Well, no, 23W, the two main characters are named in one of your own references, see here, as Freda Glodden and Jim Boggs. I do think we need basic details like that to be included in this article for it to meet the DYK standard. Please do ping me again when you are ready to proceed. Moonraker (talk) 01:34, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Okay, 23W, I see there are two films in that panel, you are right. I'll look at this again later. Perhaps you wouldn't mind doing the QPQ before we go any further? Moonraker (talk) 05:28, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Will do. Thank you very kindly for reviewing! 23W 05:37, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 13[edit]

Omowunmi Sadik

Omowunmi Sadik
Omowunmi Sadik
  • ... that Omowunmi Sadik (pictured) has developed highly sensitive microelectrode biosensors that can detect explosives?

Created by Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk). Self-nominated at 14:10, 21 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Long enough (3271 characters). New enough (I'm okay with 8 days). Sentence with hook fact has valid footnotes and the ref supports the hook fact. Every paragraph after the lead has at least one footnote. Spot checks did not reveal copyvios or close paraphrasing. Photo in WCommons for months and licence seems fine. This nom is good to go. --PFHLai (talk) 06:01, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Circuit des Champs de Bataille

  • ...that the Circuit des Champs de Bataille, a stage race held across devastated northern France, Belgium and Luxemburg in spring 1919, has been described as the toughest cycle race in history?

Created by Cordless Larry (talk). Self-nominated at 21:59, 19 November 2015 (UTC).

Qiu Huizuo

Qiu Huizuo
Qiu Huizuo
  • ... that although General Qiu Huizuo (pictured) was persecuted at the beginning of the Cultural Revolution, he authorized the torture of 462 people after returning to power, causing eight deaths?

Created by Colipon (talk) and Zanhe (talk). Nominated by Zanhe (talk) at 08:58, 19 November 2015 (UTC).

Hamilton Canal

  • ... that the main proponent of the Hamilton Canal, Gavin Hamilton, was found to have embezzeled £19,675 from the Colonial Government, following his death in 1803 ....?
  • ALT1 ... that the Hamilton Canal was constructed in 1804 in order to reduce salinity in the surrounding marshes but in fact created the opposite effect ....?

Created by Dan arndt (talk). Self-nominated at 09:52, 18 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg The artcile is long and interesting and posted by due date. Hooks are interesting, cited and verified. No copy vio noted. Text is neutral. QPQ done. I prefer original hook. Good to go.Nvvchar. 08:12, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Cotton production in Pakistan

Earliest period of Cotton production
Earliest period of Cotton production
  • ... that the earliest known historical find of cotton is from Mehrgarh from artifacts of burial site of the Neolithic period in Pakistan which makes it the ancient land of cotton?

Created by Nvvchar (talk). Self-nominated at 06:06, 18 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svgDate, creation, referencing, verifiability for the hook, and image usability all check out. Article follows wikipedia's policies. QPQ is good too. Nice work!4meter4 (talk) 16:11, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Emile Rey

Émile Rey
Émile Rey
  • ... that 19th century Italian mountaineer, Emile Rey (pictured), was known as "The Prince of Guides" in his home town of Courmayeur?

Created by Parkywiki (talk). Nominated by Oceanh (talk) at 21:09, 17 November 2015 (UTC).

Ying Fang

  • ALT1: ... that Opera News stated that soprano Ying Fang "is incapable of vulgarity; her dignity is unshakeable, and her powers of persuasion are sovereign"?
  • Reviewed: Kay Tye

Created by 4meter4 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:06, 16 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg New enough when nominated (created on November 13), long enough (3555 characters), neutral and adequately sourced. Copyvios confidence 24.5% (due to the use of a direct quote). Hooks are both short enough, neutral, and verified to the (online) sources provided. QPQ done. Good to go. sst✈discuss 15:58, 19 November 2015 (UTC)


Zhao Wenhua

5x expanded by Underbar dk (talk). Nominated by The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) at 01:08, 16 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Thanks for the nomination! Might I suggest an alternate hook that plays on the historiographical irony about this character:
_dk (talk) 03:19, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

James Larratt Battersby, James Johnson Battersby, William John Battersby, Battersby Hats

James Larratt Battersby
James Larratt Battersby
  • Comment: Open to alternative phrasing suggestions, particularly from article creators.
  • Thanks for this. I had not thought of linking them in one DYK. You have spotted that we lack a good free pic at present. I will put my thinking cap (hat?) on. Philafrenzy (talk) 23:09, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Here's a pic. Not great quality but quite striking and displays well at small size. Philafrenzy (talk) 10:41, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

Created by Philafrenzy (talk) and Edwardx (talk). Nominated by Delusion23 (talk) at 21:09, 15 November 2015 (UTC).

  • William John Battersby Symbol possible vote.svg New enough but currently too short for DYK, classified as stub, and displays a maintenance template. The one-sentence paragraphs are an eyesore (one of them is currently unreferenced) but might disappear anyway during the necessary expansion of the article.
  • James Johnson Battersby Symbol question.svg New enough, just large enough for DYK, but the paragraph on the RMS Lusitania appears in William John Battersby, too. One of the articles would thus have to be expanded in a way that they are both at 1,500 characters even if the duplication is counted only once. The one-paragraph sections should be merged; I suggest "Early life and career" and "Personal life". The article is classified as stub.
  • James Larratt Battersby Symbol voting keep.svg New enough, long enough, well-referenced. AGF on the many offline and paywalled references.
  • Battersby Hats Symbol question.svg New enough but currently slightly too short for DYK. Two short unreferenced paragraphs should be merged with others and/or supplied with a reference.
    • Overall: Symbol question.svg The hook is referenced, short, and interesting, the picture is in the public domain and suitable for display at 100x100 pixels. I did not do the plagiarism check yet; will wait for the requested expansion of the two articles that are too short. I added the "(pictured)" to the hook. Cheers, Pgallert (talk) 09:00, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
Thank you. I don't think we intended to go to DYK with the others, only Larratt Battersby, so we will need to work on them as you suggest. Philafrenzy (talk) 09:54, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
No problem, take your time. By the way, I'll be out for the weekend without Internet access, so please be patient with me, too :) Cheers, Pgallert (talk) 17:19, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

J. S. Guleria

Created by Tachs (talk). Nominated by The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) at 06:48, 15 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg New enough when nominated. Long enough at 2217 characters. The article is neutral and adequately sourced. Copyvios confidence 27.5%. Both hooks are neutral, short enough, interesting enough, and verified to online sources provided. QPQ done. Good to go. sst✈discuss 09:04, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg The source only says that Dr. Guleria was on duty when Mrs. Gandhi was wheeled into the hospital, and does not include him on the list of surgeons who operated on her. Yoninah (talk) 01:24, 18 November 2015 (UTC)'
  • Ugh, you're right. I need to stick to nominating articles that I wrote myself. This is the second time I got tripped up from not having a close familiarity with the article/its sources. Yoninah, can we run with the ALT? Mobile Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 03:03, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg OK. ALT1 hook refs verified and cited inline. Rest of review per SSTflyer. ALT1 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 13:15, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Himalayan field rat

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 09:13, 14 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article size and expansion ok, it is neutral, interesting and appropriately referenced. Hook is short enough, neutral, interesting, inline cited in the article, and is verified in book source (relevant page available online). Spot checks did not reveal close paraphrasing. QPQ done. Oceanh (talk) 17:14, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

Leonite

Leonite perched on a matrix of halite
Leonite perched on a matrix of halite
  • ... that leonite (pictured) has been found on Mars?

Created by Graeme Bartlett (talk). Self-nominated at 06:54, 14 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article is new and long enough, appropriately cited, neutral and interesting. Hook is short, interesting, neutral, cited in the article, and verified in online reference. Spot checks did not reveal close paraphrasing. Picture is used in the article, and Commons license is fine. QPQ done (ongoing). Oceanh (talk) 22:21, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

Floriana Lines

Map of the Floriana Lines
Map of the Floriana Lines

Improved to Good Article status by Xwejnusgozo (talk). Nominated by Oceanh (talk) at 23:12, 13 November 2015 (UTC).

Hyoid bone fracture

Created by Keilana (talk) and CFCF (talk). Nominated by Keilana (talk) at 21:59, 13 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Good to do. Hook length, factual accuracy verified. Ditto for article newness, policy compliance and length. No copyvio issues detected. The sources are not completely accessible for a thorough check but accepted AGF. Dr. K. 00:31, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

Jaccoud arthropathy

  • Comment: No QPQ needed, less than 5 DYK nominations.

Created by CFCF (talk). Self-nominated at 21:41, 13 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Checked for date, size, and copy-vio. QPQ not needed as nom has less than five DYK credits. Hook is cited inline using RS. Outside of the review, consider adding categories for the page. Vensatry (Talk) 05:19, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 14[edit]

The Foundery

The Foundery around 1830
The Foundery around 1830
  • ... that the King's Foundery for casting cannon (pictured) became the first Methodist chapel after a great explosion?

Created by Andrew Davidson (talk) and Paul W (talk). Nominated by Andrew Davidson (talk) at 23:52, 22 November 2015 (UTC).

Guanqun Yu

Created by 4meter4 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:13, 20 November 2015 (UTC).

New Hurley Reformed Church

Church in 2013
Church in 2013
  • ... that New York's New Hurley Reformed Church (pictured) was founded by members of another area church cut off from it after a flood washed out a bridge?

5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Self-nominated at 02:16, 20 November 2015 (UTC).

Operation Eikonal

Radomes at Bad Aibling Station, a data analysis centre for the operation.
Radomes at Bad Aibling Station, a data analysis centre for the operation.

5x expanded by Samsara (talk). Self-nominated at 19:02, 19 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg size and age ok, written neutrally, no copyvio detected, QPQ not required, hook has inline reference, material is faithful to source. good to go. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:22, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Broken Picture Telephone

A completed drawing round from Broken Picture Telephone
A completed drawing round from Broken Picture Telephone

Created by GrammarFascist (talk). Self-nominated at 09:47, 19 November 2015 (UTC).

Han Qing

Created by Sillyfolkboy. Nominated by Mobile Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) at 14:58, 18 November 2015 (UTC).

Karimabad, Pakistan

Baltit Fort
Baltit Fort
  • ... that both Baltit Fort (pictured) and Karimabad village received the World Award of Tourism in 2000 when Indonesia, Australia, India and Britain and other countries competed?

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self-nominated at 06:39, 18 November 2015 (UTC).

Operation Puttur

  • ... that the searches by the police during Operation Puttur yielded two bombs and a pistol used by the suspects?

Created by Ssriram mt (talk). Nominated by SSTflyer (talk) at 16:02, 17 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Comment Review under way. 7&6=thirteen () 16:42, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
  • DYK checklist template

Image eligibility:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol confirmed.svg Passes DYK checklist.

  • Review Symbol confirmed.svg Good to go! New article, timely nominated. Meets core policies and guidelines, and in particular: is neutral; cites sources with inline citations; is free of close paraphrasing issues, copyright violations and plagiarism. DYK nomination was timely and article is easily long enough. Every paragraph is cited. Earwig's copy violation detector: Operation Puttur is clean. Hook is hooky enough, I think, and relates directly to the essence of the article. Alts are possible. Hook is interesting, decently neutral, and appropriately cited. QPQ done. although article is not yet promoted. 7&6=thirteen () 21:08, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Yueh-Lin Loo

Created by 97198 (talk). Self-nominated at 13:35, 16 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg New enough when nominated. Long enough at 1722 characters. The article is neutral and adequately sourced. Copyvios confidence 12.3%. The hook is neutral, short enough, interesting, and verified to the online source provided. QPQ done. Good to go. sst✈discuss 09:00, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Eckwersheim derailment

Derailed train
Derailed train
  • ... that a TGV train (pictured) derailed in Eckwersheim, France, killing at least ten people and injuring 32 others?

Created by A bit iffy (talk), B137 (talk), Mjroots (talk), and UkPaolo (talk). Nominated by George Ho (talk) at 21:49, 15 November 2015 (UTC).

Comment: Are we leaving out "first fatal accident" since this was a test run and therefore shouldn't count? Since there were no passengers, you could get technical and say that other TGV-related deaths may have occurred, perhaps during construction. None of this should be credited to me since my blurb was "In France, 10 people are killed when the first fatal accident in the history of the TGV occurs during a test run on a new line." B137 (talk) 22:07, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

I'm crediting you for the article, B137, not the hooks. Also, I can't use "first fatal accident"; I need something hook-y and more interesting. George Ho (talk) 22:13, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
Actually, I think the "first fatal derailment" thing is more "hooky". It's certainly a significant occurrence as regards TGVs which have a very good safety record. I've added another suggested wording as Alt11.--A bit iffy (talk) 23:07, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
+1 to ALT11. There is absolutely no reason to bring up the totally unrelated Paris attacks. Daniel Case (talk) 04:58, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
Further to my comment above, I now think ALT12 and ALT 13 are better.--A bit iffy (talk) 05:37, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Oppose DYK is supposed to be for things that had an organic spike in interest, or that are new and interesting and generally well-written. Using DYK as a copout for a failed news nomination is disingenuous. Any breaking news story of even moderate national (to a "major" nation) or world significance gets an article that both grows rapidly and is virally popular for a short run. Wikipedia has actually been credited by critics for being good at aggregating news quickly and with relatively low bias. Would support this as a DYK if it wasn't major news right now. B137 (talk) 22:26, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

You can't vote in DYK. Also, under rules, since you edited, you're not qualified as a reviewer, B137, so... I'll add your suggestion as ALT10. Here are WP:DYK and WP:DYKSG rules. Meanwhile, can you strike out your vote? George Ho (talk) 22:46, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Comment - death toll is now 11. Mjroots (talk) 22:54, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
I said "at least ten". Besides, one additional death won't make much difference. How about ten more instead? George Ho (talk) 02:10, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Comment I've added ALT 12 & 13. In my opinion, it is not necessary to note how many died and were injured. Instead of saying "first", the blurbs use "only". This is to make it more interesting. For the average reader, "first" could mean an event in 1982 and there could have been many fatal accidents. For this reason, I've also added the date in ALT13. However, I'm not sure which of 12 or 13 is better. AHeneen (talk) 02:22, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
I think ALT12 and ALT13 are the best two options. --A bit iffy (talk) 05:37, 22 November 2015 (UTC)


Sharad Moreshwar Hardikar

Created by Tachs (talk). Nominated by The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) at 05:45, 15 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article is long enough and posted before due date. Hook is interesting, cited and verified. No copy vio noted. Text is neutral. I presume the author has less than 5 DYK's to his credit and is exempt for QPQ. Good to go.Nvvchar. 07:58, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

S. K. Sama

Created by Tachs (talk). Nominated by The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) at 05:29, 15 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg New and long enough, all paragraphs have inline citations, QPQ review performed, checks for copyvio reveals no problems (e.g. [19]).
The only problem is that content of the hook is not backed with an inline citation to a reliable source in the article, specifically about the subject discovering the disease. This source verifies the hook, but it does not appear to be a reliable source per Wikipedia's standards, because it's a website from a company that provides listings for healthcare providers. Other sources in the article discuss the subject's involvement, but do not specifically state that he discovered the disease. North America1000 19:53, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
ALT 1: ... that gastroenterologist S. K. Sama received the Padma Shri award for his pioneering research on Non-cirrhotic portal fibrosis and Hepatitis B?
Northamerica1000 Alright. I've proposed an alt which is sourced to a Times of India article. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 23:50, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg The Squirrel Conspiracy: Both sources used in the article do not state that the subject was awarded specifically for his research in Non-cirrhotic portal fibrosis and Hepatitis B. The Times of India source states, "Sama is getting the award in recognition of his contribution in the field of medical science", and that "He has long been acknowledged as a pioneer in the field of research on liver diseases and his pioneering work on virus B Hepatitis and Non Cirrhotic Portal Fibrosis has been acclaimed internationally." However, the source states that the award was for "his contribution in the field of medical science". As ALT1 is worded, it is a minor WP:SYNTHESIS. The source from India's Ministry Of Home Affairs also does not verify ALT1. North America1000 01:53, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
(edit conflict) ALT2: ... that gastroenterologist S. K. Sama, known for his pioneering research on Non-cirrhotic portal fibrosis and Hepatitis B, received the Dr. B. C. Roy Award in 2001 and the Padma Shri award in 2004?
This is what I get for nominating someone else's article. I'm not as familiar with the subject or the sources. Oh well. How's ALT2 look Northamerica1000? The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 02:04, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg The Squirrel Conspiracy: The subject having received the Padma Shri award in 2004 is verifed in this source. However, the source used to verify receipt of the Dr. B. C. Roy Award has no mention of 2001, and the article is from 2004. If this latter award was actually received in 2004, which appears to be the case per the source, this would need to be corrected in the article and in ALT2. North America1000 02:11, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
ALT3: ... that gastroenterologist S. K. Sama, known for his pioneering research on Non-cirrhotic portal fibrosis and Hepatitis B, received the Padma Shri award in 2004?
Northamerica1000: That's easy to fix. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 02:14, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

Format:B

Created by Launchballer (talk). Self-nominated at 12:11, 14 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg New enough when nominated. (Barely) long enough at 1527 characters. The article is neutral and acceptably sourced. Copyvios confidence 10.7%. The hook is short enough, neutral, interesting enough, and verified to the online source provided. QPQ done. Good to go. sst✈discuss 08:56, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

The Changingman

Created by Launchballer (talk). Self-nominated at 12:06, 14 November 2015 (UTC).

  • @Launchballer: Symbol possible vote.svg Article was created in the correct period. Length is a bit short, but exceeds the minimum number of characters required. Hook is interesting, but does not accurately reflect the article, which says that "The Changingman" samples ELO AND the Beatles. It does NOT say that ELO sampled the Beatles. Furthermore, the article must not be tagged as stub. Additionally, fact in the hook is cited to an offline source (although an online source says Weller "borrowed" from ELO, which is not the same as sampling), so cannot verify. No close plagiarism/close paraphrasing from online sources. howcheng {chat} 08:04, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
ALT1: ... that Paul Weller's first solo UK top ten hit, "The Changingman", borrowed from Electric Light Orchestra's "10538 Overture", which in turn borrowed from The Beatles' "Dear Prudence"?--Launchballer 09:47, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
I suppose "borrowing from" could include sampling, so we can let that one go, but you'll need a citation for the ELO to Beatles connection. howcheng {chat} 16:43, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Old Fortress, Livorno

Panorama of Fortezza Vecchia
Panorama of Fortezza Vecchia
  • ... that in 1658 the Old Fortress of Livorno (pictured) was the location of an experiment designed to test Galileo's principle of the independence of motions?

Created by Dr.K. (talk). Self-nominated at 07:08, 14 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Long enough, new enough, neutral, no copyvio. Image OK. QPQ pending. The use of an information plaque as a source surprised me (though it's not unprecedented). Also, the claim about the two Sangallos looks a bit synthetic; we have sources attributing the fortress to one Sangallo and other sources attributing it to the other, but it's not clear to me whether the various sources contradict or complement each other on this point. Apart from that, nice work; I would tick this, but I'd first like to be more confident that the hook fact is accurate. While it is supported by an appropriate reliable source, there are sources elsewhere on the web that say the experiment happened on 2 April 1662 (e.g. [20], [21], [22]) rather than in 1658. Sideways713 (talk) 23:25, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Thank you for your review Sideways713. I will try to address all the points that you raise. First, the information plaque is used because it is arguably an official plaque added there by some official agency of Livorno and not by someone with no background on the subject. The synth part about the builders can be rectified by changing the sentence to attribute each builder directly to the source which mentions them. So I have decoupled the two builders and their respective sources. Regarding the dates, I have found the original book which contains the records of the Accademia del Cimento. According to the book, the actual record date is 2 April 1662 as in the other sources you provided. I have provided ALT1 to reflect that. I have also done the QpQ. Please let me know if that would be sufficient. By the way thank you also for providing the additional sources and for catching the date discrepancy. I find these sources to be excellent. Dr. K. 03:39, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
  • ALT1... that on 2 April 1662, the Old Fortress of Livorno (pictured) was the location of an experiment designed to test Galileo's principle of the independence of motions?
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Excellent, ALT1 is good to go now. Sideways713 (talk) 10:44, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Thank you very much Sideways713. Best regards. Dr. K. 13:52, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 15[edit]

Fortifications of Xi'an

Xi'an City Wall
Xi'an City Wall
  • ... that Michelle Obama, the first lady of the United States who visited the Xi'an City Wall (pictured) in March 2014 said as: "a wall that has withstood war and famine and the rise and fall of dynasties?

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self-nominated at 07:13, 19 November 2015 (UTC).

Stephanie Burns

Created by Rosiestep (talk) and Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Rosiestep (talk) at 03:19, 19 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Length, date of nom, and sourcing all check. Hook facts are cited. No detected copyvio, and QPQ check. --Al Ameer (talk) 19:59, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Hayden Epstein

5x expanded by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self-nominated at 00:29, 19 November 2015 (UTC).


Mario Trafeli

  • ... that at the age of 18, Mario Trafeli became the youngest winner of the North American Outdoor Speedskating Championship with a win in the final 5-mile (8.0 km) race?
  • Reviewed: Dairy salt
  • Comment: Article was expanded while at AfD. Be sure that the discussion has closed before approving.

5x expanded by Alansohn (talk). Self-nominated at 23:58, 17 November 2015 (UTC).

Platygyra contorta

Created by Thine Antique Pen (talk). Self-nominated at 21:30, 17 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg New enough, long enough, within policy. Verified hook; it has an inline citation; its length is fine; it is interesting. All non-lede paragraphs have refs; all refs appear to be RS. No apparent close-paraphrasing. No image. QPQ done. GTG. --Rosiestep (talk) 03:24, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Ida Shepard Oldroyd

Created by Animalparty (talk). Self-nominated at 22:37, 16 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg The article is new enough (15th), long enough (over twice the 1500 minimum), neutral, cites sources, and appears free from copyvios (although I did not run the Earwig tool since it's tricky to do on this device). Hook is short enough and cited appropriately. There is no image. All this is waiting for is the QPQ. Mobile Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 17:58, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Stiven Mendoza

5x expanded by The Almightey Drill (talk). Self-nominated at 22:35, 15 November 2015 (UTC).

Wat Pa Maha Chedi Kaew

Wat Pa Maha Chedi Kaew in 2011
Wat Pa Maha Chedi Kaew in 2011
  • ... that more than 1.5 million beer bottles have been used in the construction of the Buddhist temple site at Wat Pa Maha Chedi Kaew (pictured) in Thailand?

5x expanded by Miyagawa (talk) and 7&6=thirteen (talk). Self-nominated at 21:42, 15 November 2015 (UTC).

Symbol possible vote.svg This article is new enough (finished today), long enough (at 1800, so just barely), neutral, and cites sources. The hook within policy. There is a QPQ. The image is freely licensed (and Thailand has favorable FOP laws), is in the article, and is appropriately sized. There is, however, a plagiarism issue in the lead [23] (which happens to be the only part that Miyagawa did not work on). The lead needs to be re-written, and probably revision deleted, before this can be approved. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 00:07, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
And that is precisely why DYK is so valuable - I hadn't realised that plagiarism in the lead, so thank you for spotting that. I've re-written all but the basic "this is a temple" opening line. Miyagawa (talk) 09:03, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
Earwig's Copy Violation Detector Wat Pa Maha Chedi Kaew 7&6=thirteen () 14:39, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

Symbol confirmed.svg Fine now. Mobile Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 18:03, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

Beurre Maître d'Hôtel

Beurre Maître d'Hôtel atop a New York strip steak
Beurre Maître d'Hôtel atop a New York strip steak

Created by Northamerica1000 (talk). Self-nominated at 20:06, 15 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New enough, long enough, neutral, free image, no copyvio detected, hook cited inline, QPQ done. My one quibble is that the sentence "The use of parchment paper prevents the butter from sticking after it hardens." is not cited - I cook a lot, so this is obvious to me, but I don't think it can fly without an inline citation. Keilana (talk) 02:42, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
@Keilana: I have removed the sentence in question from the article (diff). North America1000 02:52, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Damn, fast response! All good to go now. Keilana (talk) 02:57, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

Sheshi

Scarab of Sheshi
Scarab of Sheshi

Improved to Good Article status by Iry-Hor (talk). Nominated by Oceanh (talk) at 19:49, 15 November 2015 (UTC).

James L. Buie

  • ... that James L. Buie invented transistor-to-transistor logic circuitry ("TTL") that led to the development of the start of the integrated circuit industry?

Created by Doug Coldwell (talk) and 7&6=thirteen (talk). Nominated by Doug Coldwell (talk) at 15:39, 15 November 2015 (UTC).


  • Symbol question.svg Interesting article about a computer pioneer, new enough, long enough, neutral and appropriately referenced. Hook is short enough, interesting, has inline citations, and is verified in online reference. Earwig's Copyvio Detector gives the article a green tick. QPQ review of Template:Did you know nominations/Rickard Olsson already claimed for Effie Maud Aldrich Morrison, so another QPQ should be provided before DYK approval. Oceanh (talk) 13:16, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
@Oceanh: Oooppps - sorry about that. Have provided another QPQ.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 14:05, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Thanks. Good to go. Oceanh (talk) 14:36, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Olive baboon

Olive baboons
Olive baboons

Improved to Good Article status by Eat me, I'm an azuki (talk). Nominated by Oceanh (talk) at 11:49, 15 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Improved to GA in recent time and clearly long enough. Hook is interesting, cited to a reliable source and written in a way to avoid copy vio. All regulations met and QPQ done. Good to go. '''tAD''' (talk) 22:32, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 16[edit]

Bonifacio Monument

Bonifacio Monument
Bonifacio Monument
  • ... that the Bonifacio Monument (pictured) in Philippines, 45 feet (14 m) in height with symbolic images and features, known as the "Cry of Pugadlawin," is acclaimed as one of the best monuments in the world?

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self-nominated at 10:10, 20 November 2015 (UTC).

Cotton production in China

Cotton field
Cotton field

Created by Nvvchar (talk). Self-nominated at 09:04, 20 November 2015 (UTC).

Eileen Sharp

Eileen Sharp, 1922
Eileen Sharp, 1922

Created by Ssilvers (talk) and Jack1956 (talk). Nominated by Pgallert (talk) at 09:09, 19 November 2015 (UTC).

Esther Somerfeld-Ziskind

Created by Kgarzon22 (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 11:51, 18 November 2015 (UTC).

1964 Atlantic hurricane season

Season summary map of the 1964 Atlantic hurricane season
Season summary map of the 1964 Atlantic hurricane season

Improved to Good Article status by 12george1 (talk). Nominated by Oceanh (talk) at 20:03, 17 November 2015 (UTC).

Aucanquilcha

Aucanquilcha
Aucanquilcha
  • ... that a sulfur mine at 5,950 metres (19,520 ft) altitude on the stratovulcano Aucanquilcha (pictured) is notable for being the highest mine in the world and the highest permanently inhabited area?

Improved to Good Article status by Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk). Nominated by Oceanh (talk) at 19:37, 17 November 2015 (UTC).

Huawei Honor 4X

Created by SSTflyer (talk). Self-nominated at 15:48, 17 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg The article is new enough (16th to today), large enough (2500), neutral, cites sources, and doesn't appear to have any copyright violations (although I can't run the Earwig tool on this device). QPQ is fine, and there's no image in the nom. I think that it needs a new hook though - it uses source 2 for the price comparison and source 3 for the feature comparison, but the hook uses "devices" and the article only really compares the Honor to the Moto G, making the plural problematic. Perhaps a hook that directly compares features between the two, or a hook that mentions that it's in the same price range as the Moto G and the Xperia M2, but is the only phablet of the three? I'm open to whatever else you come up with. Mobile Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 18:17, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Err, sorry, I guess that I didn't communicate what I wanted to. So the issue is that, as the article reads right now:
Source 2 compares the Honor with other devices (plural), but only in phone size
Source 3 compares the Honor with one other device (singular), favorably
So changing "devices" to "smartphones" doesn't fix the issue, which is that unless you're talking specifically about size, the Honor has been compared favorably to one device (singular), not devices (plural).
How do you feel about either of:
ALT3 might be a bit on the advert-y side though. Ugh, I'm probably making mountains out of molehills. If you don't like either of the ALTs, please feel free to get a second opinion on whether your original hook is suitable. If someone else says it's fine, it's probably fine. Mobile Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 02:59, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
Yeah, ALT2 is good. I agree that ALT3 is too advert-y. I would recommend changing the first "is" to "was" though, because mobile phone pricing decreases quickly. ALT2a: ... that while the Huawei Honor 4X was in the same price range as the second generation Moto G and the Sony Xperia M2, the Honor 4X is a phablet? sst✈discuss 15:23, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg That's fine. Mobile Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 17:30, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Oxford Street

Oxford Street
Oxford Street
  • ... that Oxford Street (pictured) has been ranked as the most important retail location in Britain and the busiest shopping street in Europe?

Improved to Good Article status by Ritchie333 (talk). Nominated by Oceanh (talk) at 11:25, 17 November 2015 (UTC).

Oxford Street Christmas lights
Oxford Street Christmas lights
  • ALT1 would make a nice lead hook for Christmas Day, if anyone feels inclined. 97198 (talk) 13:14, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Ona Kantheeswarar Temple, Sathyanatheswarar Temple, Metraleeswar Temple, Anekadhangavadeswarar Temple

Created by Ssriram mt (talk). Nominated by SSTflyer (talk) at 08:49, 17 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg All four articles are new enough and long enough, and appropriately referenced. Hook is neutral, interesting, short enough (at 213 characters for four articles) and the hook fact is mentioned in the respective articles. However, an immediate inline citation is missing for the hook fact, as far as I can see (and missing in all four articles). Spot checks did not reveal close paraphrasing (Earwig's Copyvio Detector gives all green ticks). Four QPQs done. Oceanh (talk) 22:36, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
  • When you create a multi-article hook, it is very difficult to achieve one single inline citation to verify the hook in all four articles. The hook content is cited in the article body. sst✈discuss 10:51, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
  • I see your point, but it is the DYK reviewer's task to check that the hook facts have inline citations directly after the facts. For the "Ona Kantheeswarar Temple", the hook claims that (1.) it is a Hindu temple,(2.) the temple is dedicated to Shiva, and (3.) the temple is located in the town of Kanchipuram. I think all these three facts should have inline citations in the article. (Similarly for the three other articles, for the facts about the respective temples). I can not see how any of this is directly cited in the body of the article, please guide me if I'm blind. Also, the current ref 2 seems to not cover the Ona Kantheeswarar Temple, but instead the Sri Kachi Anekadhangavadeswarar temple; this should be corrected. Oceanh (talk) 22:26, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Further concern: Since the four articles appear similar in many ways, I made some cross checkings to investigate the similarities. DupCheck 1 DupCheck 2 DupCheck 3 DupCheck 4 DupCheck 5 DupCheck 6 The tool found several sentences which are reused verbatim across the articles. Do you have any comment on this? Oceanh (talk) 21:40, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Long-tailed dwarf hamster, Ikh Nartiin Chuluu Nature Reserve

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 06:42, 17 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Both articles are long enough, neutral, interesting and appropriately referenced. "Long-tailed dwarf hamster" is recently expanded, and "Ikh Nartiin Chuluu Nature Reserve" is recently created. Hook is interesting, short enough and mentioned in both articles. It is cited with inline citation in "Ikh Nartiin Chuluu Nature Reserve", and verified in online reference. It is also supported with the same reference in "Long-tailed dwarf hamster" (at end of section).Spot checks did not reveal close paraphrasing. QPQ done. Oceanh (talk) 12:48, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Okawachi Pumped Storage Power Station

Okawachi station's upper reservoir
Okawachi station's upper reservoir

Created by Ita140188 (talk). Nominated by The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) at 03:00, 17 November 2015 (UTC).

  • The Squirrel Conspiracy Symbol question.svg Article length and date of posting are ok but the fourth paragraph is not referenced. Pl fix reference so that I can verify the text. The hook is interesting, cited and verified. QPQ done.Nvvchar. 04:12, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
  • I added references for the fourth paragraph, and rephrased a sentence which was not very clear. Unfortunately I could only find references in Japanese for the old plants.--Ita140188 (talk) 08:55, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Alex Saxon (actor)

5x expanded by Miyagawa (talk). Self-nominated at 22:31, 16 November 2015 (UTC).

Messelepone

Fossil Messelepone leptogenoides male
Fossil Messelepone leptogenoides male
  • ... that the extinct ant Messelepone was described two fossils, a male (pictured) and a queen?

Created by Kevmin (talk). Self-nominated at 20:31, 16 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article is long enough and posted before due date. Hook is interesting , cited and verified. No copy vio noted. Text is neutral. QPQ done. Good to go.Nvvchar. 09:01, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Patricia Numann

Created by 97198 (talk). Self-nominated at 15:41, 16 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article is new enough (created and nominated on same day), exceeds 3,000 characters, and appears neutral and free from close paraphrasing. The hook is accurate, cited, neutral, and impressively interesting. QPQ done. A nice concise article. --Animalparty! (talk) 05:49, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Imran Khan (web developer)

Created by Bharatiya29 (talk). Self-nominated at 11:40, 16 November 2015 (UTC).

  • ALT1: ... that Prime Minister of India Narendra Modi said that India is much bigger than news headlines and "my India resides in people like Imran Khan"?

--Human3015TALK  15:06, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article is long enough and posted before due date. Hooks are interesting, cited and verified. No copy vio noted. Text is neutral. QPQ done. I prefer ALT1 hook. Good to go.Nvvchar. 08:40, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Huawei Ascend P7

  • ... that the Huawei Ascend P7 has been noted for its high-resolution front camera and slow processor?

Created by SSTflyer (talk). Self-nominated at 08:42, 16 November 2015 (UTC).

Court Square Fountain

CAPTION TEXT GOES HERE
CAPTION TEXT GOES HERE
  • ALT1: ... that the zinc-iron statues of Court Square Fountain (pictured) in Montgomery, Alabama (1885), were replaced by aluminum statues in 1984, which became corroded just twenty years later?
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Dorothea Leighton
  • Comment: There's other hooks available in the article; the location of the slave market is a bit underdeveloped as yet. That it's on an artesian well used long before whites came to town is an optino too.

Created by Drmies (talk). Self-nominated at 04:21, 16 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Note: I've bolded the target article of the hook. epic genius (talk) 15:29, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
  • I will review this article. epic genius (talk) 15:44, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol confirmed.svg epic genius (talk) 15:44, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

  • @Drmies: Pinging. epic genius (talk) 16:09, 16 November 2015 (UTC) (Note: The |hookother= parameter was "The end of the hook, "but those had corroded twenty years later already," is a little confusing. I suggest ALT1." epic genius (talk) 16:17, 16 November 2015 (UTC))
  • Cool. If you approve of ALT1, then it's (Note to self: Drmies has a lot of DYKs. Maybe I can steal some...) Symbol confirmed.svg Good to go. epic genius (talk) 16:17, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

The Bleeder

Liev Schreiber
Liev Schreiber

Created by Captain Assassin! (talk). Self-nominated at 03:46, 16 November 2015 (UTC).

Dorothea Leighton

Created by Keilana (talk). Self-nominated at 02:45, 16 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Keilana, I tweaked the hook a little bit: the source has her as one of the founders. Drmies (talk) 04:06, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg New enough, long enough, no copyvio that I can see, etc. Hook verified. Good to go. Drmies (talk) 04:16, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
@Drmies: For some reason the ping didn't work so I didn't see this til now, but thanks for tweaking the hook! Best, Keilana (talk) 04:04, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

2015 Xi Jinping United States visit

Created by Shwangtianyuan (talk). Self-nominated at 04:16, 16 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Comment only Hook wording tweaked slightly. Edwardx (talk) 18:19, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Current nominations[edit]

Articles created/expanded on November 17[edit]

Magellan Shrine

Magellan Shrine
Magellan Shrine

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self-nominated at 05:15, 21 November 2015 (UTC).

Kabuli Bagh Mosque

Kabuli Bagh Mosque
Kabuli Bagh Mosque

Created by Nvvchar (talk). Self-nominated at 04:38, 21 November 2015 (UTC).

MV Norsel (1945)

Norsel off Antarctica
Norsel off Antarctica
  • ... that Norsel (pictured) made 10 voyages to Antarctica, and hunted seals off Canada for 25 seasons?

Created by Philafrenzy (talk) and Manxruler (talk). Nominated by Manxruler (talk) at 04:00, 21 November 2015 (UTC).

Battle of Lahore (1752)

Created by Royroydeb (talk). Self-nominated at 09:48, 20 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg. Article is long enough and posted by due date. Has only two references. Could use one more if found. Hook is interesting, cited and verified. No copy vio noted. Text is neutral. QPQ done. Good to go.Nvvchar. 05:21, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Muhanna ibn Isa

Moved to mainspace by Attar-Aram syria (talk) and Al Ameer son (talk). Nominated by Al Ameer son (talk) at 23:36, 18 November 2015 (UTC).

HTC Desire 200

Desire 200 with back cover removed
Desire 200 with back cover removed
  • ... that the HTC Desire 200 (pictured), a low-end smartphone released in 2013, came with HTC's "highest quality in-ear headset"?
  • Reviewed: Seductive details
  • Comment: No concerns of advertising since AFAIK the smartphone has been discontinued.

Created by SSTflyer (talk). Self-nominated at 16:02, 18 November 2015 (UTC).

Hakea cucullata

Hakea cucullata
Hakea cucullata
  • ... that the leaves of the scallop hakea (pictured) cradle the flowers?

5x expanded by Gderrin (talk) and Sminthopsis84 (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 10:00, 18 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Article is long enough, recently expanded more than 5x, neutral and interesting. It is referenced with inline citations, however reference 4 and 5 do not work properly; (4: "Flora of Australia Online Error: No Name Details"; 5:HTTP 404) these should be fixed. Hook is short enough and interesting, and cited in the article to three online references (2, 3, 4). It could not be fully verified in the cited refernces, and as noted above, ref 4 does not work properly. Picture is used in the article, and Commons licence is ok. Spot checks did not reveal close paraphrasing. QPQ done. Oceanh (talk) 01:04, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Charlize Theron filmography

  • Reviewed: IOU

5x expanded by Cowlibob (talk). Self-nominated at 23:23, 17 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Recently expanded fivefold, referenced, neutral, no close paraphrasing that I can see. Hook is interesting and cited. Just waiting on that QPQ – you could also add an image to go with the hook if you want. Ping me when you're ready and I'll add a tick. 97198 (talk) 13:00, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Visibility Zero

Created/expanded by Dr.K. (talk). Self-nominated at 19:55, 17 November 2015 (UTC).

Dairy salt

Butter being salted in 1906
Butter being salted in 1906
  • ... that the use of impure dairy salt can have adverse effects upon butter, spoiling its flavor, grain and preservation?

Created by Northamerica1000 (talk). Self-nominated at 19:31, 17 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article is new enough, long enough and is free of close paraphrasing issues. The hook is within limits and interesting. QPQ has been satisfied. BTW, should it be "upon" or "on" Alansohn (talk)

Iris perrieri

  • Did you know that Iris perrieri was named after Baron Eugène Pierre Perrier de la Bâthie ?
  • ALT1:from Albertville in France !

Created by DavidAnstiss (talk). Self-nominated at 16:57, 17 November 2015 (UTC).

Ni Zhifu

Ni Zhifu operating his drill
Ni Zhifu operating his drill

Created by Zanhe (talk). Self-nominated at 09:07, 17 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg New and long enough, image is properly licensed, QPQ review performed, checks for copyvio reveals no problems (e.g. [24]), all non-lead paragraphs have inline citations, content of the hook is backed with inline citations to reliable sources in the article. North America1000 19:14, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Parastemmiulus

Created by Kevmin (talk). Self-nominated at 02:50, 17 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Article is new and long enough, neutral, interesting and appropriately cited. Hook fact is NOT SUPPORTED IN THE ARTICLE, as far as I can see. Spot checks did not reveal close paraphrasing. QPQ done. Oceanh (talk) 14:45, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
  • @Oceanh: I've clarified the hook, with addition of material to the article (sorry!)--Kevmin § 02:46, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol voting keep.svg Thank you. Since the hook fact is not found in the abstract of the cited source, I have to AGF on the rest of the journal artcicle (which is behind a paywall). Oceanh (talk) 21:05, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 18[edit]

Hanna von Hoerner

Created by 97198 (talk). Self-nominated at 07:41, 23 November 2015 (UTC).

Hrazdan River

Hrazdan River
Hrazdan River
  • ... that in a 70 km (43 mi) stretch of the Hrazdan River (pictured) in Armenia, a cascade development involving seven schemes has a total hydro power installed capacity of 560 MW?

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self-nominated at 02:05, 23 November 2015 (UTC).

Khongoryn Els

Khongoryn Els sand dunes
Khongoryn Els sand dunes
  • ... that the Khongoryn Els (pictured) in the Mongolian desert is popularly known as the "Singing Sands"?

Created by Nvvchar (talk). Self-nominated at 01:36, 23 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Comment only Hook wording tweaked slightly, typo fixed. Edwardx (talk) 18:15, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Jordan Payton

Created by Bagumba (talk). Self-nominated at 02:00, 22 November 2015 (UTC).

Maggie Doyne

  • ... that American philanthropist Maggie Doyne was only 19 years old when she used her life savings of $5000 to build a children's home in Nepal?

2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by MurielMary (talk). Self-nominated at 08:18, 21 November 2015 (UTC).

Bjørn Borgen

Created by GiantSnowman (talk). Self-nominated at 22:19, 18 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg Date, length, references and neutrality are fine. AGF for close paraphrasing and hook verification since sources are in Norwegian. QPQ is done. 97198 (talk) 13:05, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Forward air control operations during the Korean War

Created by Georgejdorner (talk). Self-nominated at 20:13, 18 November 2015 (UTC).

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Battle of al-Kafr

Created by Al Ameer son (talk). Self-nominated at 18:43, 19 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Article is long enough. But only two references are used for the article. Could do with one more ref. Hook is interesting, cited and verified. No copy vio noted. Text is neutral. QPQ is not done yet. Nvvchar. 04:28, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
  • @Nvvchar: Will do the QPQ tomorrow (or tonight), but the article uses five refs (Provence, Khoury, Neep, Firro and Swayd). --Al Ameer (talk) 04:32, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
  • @Nvvchar: QPQ done now. --Al Ameer (talk) 20:00, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svgThere are indeed five references. It was an oversight error. Sorry. Now that QPQ id done article is good to go.Nvvchar. 01:31, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Bogd Khan Uul Biosphere Reserve

  • ALT1:... that the Bogd Khan Uul Biosphere Reserve in Mongolia has been a protected area for more than two centuries?
  • Reviewed: Winka Dubbeldam
  • Comment: Added ALT1 in case anyone was dubious about the reserve being called a "national park" in 1783.

Created by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 06:30, 19 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article is long enough and posted by due date. Hooks are interesting, cited and verified. No copy vio detected. Text is neutral. QPQ done. I prefer ALT1 Hook. Good to go.Nvvchar. 04:57, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Kevin Jordan (American football)

  • Reviewed: Bat flip
  • Comment: Hook is mainly supported by the second ref from insidesocal.com listed after the text: "... who later credited Jordan with establishing unity on their Super Bowl-winning team in 2009."

5x expanded by Bagumba (talk). Self-nominated at 04:22, 19 November 2015 (UTC).

SC Union 06 Berlin

Created by Calistemon (talk). Self-nominated at 03:34, 19 November 2015 (UTC).

Cortiço

  • ... that cortiços, large houses divided into very small rooms for rent, originated in São Paulo, Brazil and were developed by Italian immigrants?

5x expanded by Northamerica1000 (talk). Self-nominated at 02:28, 19 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Something like Bombay chawls. Artcile is long enough and posted by due date. Hook is interesting and, cited and verified. No copy vio detected. Text is neutral. QPQ done. Good to go.Nvvchar. 01:49, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Gateway Center (Brooklyn)

  • ... that for over 30 years, planners tried to develop a landfill in Brooklyn, New York, but eventually built the Gateway Center shopping mall instead?
  • ALT1: ... that for over 30 years, planners tried to develop over a landfill in Brooklyn, New York, but eventually built the Gateway Center shopping mall instead?
  • ALT2: ... that the Gateway Center shopping mall in Brooklyn, New York, is built over a landfill?

Created by Tdorante10 (talk). Nominated by Epicgenius (talk) at 17:45, 18 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg New and long enough, checks for copyvio reveals no problems (e.g. [25]), all paragraphs have inline citations.
Content of the hook does not appear to be backed by an inline citation to a reliable source in the article. The article states that the mall is located on a former landfill, but does not appear to mention anything about planners trying to develop a landfill over the course of thirty years. Also, the article states, "The Milford Street Landfill existed on the site from the 1930s to 1950", that the "area became the Fresh Creek Urban Renewal Area in 1967" and was later acquired by a company for "mixed-income housing construction", but again, nothing about plans to develop a landfill over the course of thirty years. Also, a QPQ review still needs to be performed. North America1000 02:19, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
@Northamerica1000: Thanks. Please see alt1/alt2 above and tell me if you like it. I will do a QPQ ASAP. epic genius (talk) 02:26, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
@Epicgenius: Regarding ALT1, stating this directly in the article with inline citations to reliable sources needs to be present, as per WP:WIADYK #3, "The fact(s) mentioned in the hook must be cited in the article". Upon reviewing this source, it states that the Fresh Creek Urban Renewal Plan of 1967 "proposed mixed residential, commercial and community facility uses and parks on large superblocks, comparable to neighboring Starrett City", which serves to verify the start date for the beginning of the thirty-year time period you are referring to. I find ALT2 to be somewhat lacking in creating intrigue as worded. North America1000 03:04, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
@Northamerica1000: Cool. So I take it you approve of ALT1 over ALT2? (It isn't 30 continuous years, but well, since 30 years ago, about the same, right...?) epic genius (talk) 03:08, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
@Epicgenius: Yes, but now you have stated that it has not been 30 continuous years, but then state "since 30 years ago". If this is the case, then ALT1 needs revision, along with a statement of such in the article and citations as per the above. As a suggestion for rewording, here's an ALT below, but again, it needs to be in the article and sourced. North America1000 03:30, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────

  • ALT3 ...that at various times for over 30 years, planners tried to develop over a former landfill in Brooklyn, New York, but eventually built the Gateway Center shopping mall instead?
  • @Northamerica1000: ALT3, I assume, has gone to the park or something. Anyway, I like ALT4, but I didn't write that at first because I worried that it would be too long. epic genius (talk) 03:32, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
  • @Epicgenius: Rewrote to ALT3 above. It's within the limit at 175 characters; the maximum is "fewer than about 200 characters", as per the rules. North America1000 03:32, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Oh no, now my joke doesn't make sense. :( Anyway, good to know that ALT3 (or 4) is within character limit. I will do QPQ tomorrow, since it's really late where I live. epic genius (talk) 03:45, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
  • @Northamerica1000: QPQ is done. epic genius (talk) 15:24, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Old Nupe Market

  • ... that while some sources claim that the Old Nupe Market in Matara, Sri Lanka was built by the Dutch, they claim that it was built by the British?

Created/expanded by Dan arndt (talk). Nominated by Mobile Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) at 14:45, 18 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Comment only I've tweaked the hook wording, as "the Dutch, the Dutch" was somewhat inelegant and the second mention redundant. Edwardx (talk) 18:11, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Zhang Tingfa

Zhang Tingfa
Zhang Tingfa

Created by Zanhe (talk). Self-nominated at 08:53, 18 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article is new enough, long enough and appropriately referenced, neutral and interesting. Hook fact is cited in the article, and verified in online reference. Spot checks did not reveal close paraphrasing. Picture is in public domain. QPQ done. Oceanh (talk) 21:29, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Texas A&M–Commerce Lions women's volleyball

The 2013 Texas A&M–Commerce Lions women's volleyball team
The 2013 Texas A&M–Commerce Lions women's volleyball team

Moved to mainspace by Michael Barera (talk). Self-nominated at 05:43, 18 November 2015 (UTC).

Birth of the Dragon

  • Reviewed: Soon.

Moved to mainspace by Captain Assassin! (talk). Self-nominated at 03:09, 18 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Slight descriptive term overlap with sources: "a young martial arts student", "between the ages of 20 to 30 years old.", "being considered for the role" and "the ruthless crime boss,". Please see Earwig's report. I will continue with the review as soon as these minor issues get addressed. Dr. K. 19:34, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Nikos Foskolos

  • ... that Greek screenwriter and director Nikos Foskolos has been called the "Goldfinger of commercial shows"?

Created by Dr.K. (talk). Self-nominated at 02:18, 18 November 2015 (UTC).

Julius Green

Created by Foxj (talk). Self-nominated at 23:23, 18 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Interesting article about a WW2 spy, new enough, long enough and appropriately referenced. Hook is interesting, neutral, short enough, hook facts are cited in the article, and verified in online reference. Spot checks did not reveal close paraphrasing. QPQ done. Oceanh (talk) 00:03, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Ananda Thuriya of Kanba Myint

  • ... that Ananda Thuriya, a chief minister, general and son-in-law of King Sithu II of Pagan, began his career in the royal security detail?
Reviewed: Ecocapsule

Created by Hybernator (talk). Self-nominated at 19:59, 22 November 2015 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on November 19[edit]

Terraced houses in the United Kingdom

Created by Ritchie333 (talk). Self-nominated at 17:46, 23 November 2015 (UTC).

Beverley Peck Johnson

Created by 4meter4 (talk). Self-nominated at 03:47, 22 November 2015 (UTC).

Wildlife of Turkey, Anatolian diagonal

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 09:04, 21 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg @Cwmhiraeth: Reference 2 in Anatolian diagonal (and #9 in Wildlife of Turkey) which is used to support the hook is a holiday company website - i.e. not a reliable source. I can email you a copy of this which looks like it should contain the same information. Length and age wise they are fine. This and this are also not RS. The hook could do with some work to give a little more detail - as it is Anatolian diagonal sounds like it could be a species of plant. SmartSE (talk) 12:49, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
Also spotted this close paraphrasing:
Anatolia is one of the foremost world sources of plants which have been cultivated for food, and the wild ancestors of many plants which now provide staples for mankind still grow here.
The country is one of the foremost sources in the world of plants that have been cultivated for food, and the wild ancestors of many crops that now provide man's staple diet still grow in the country."
SmartSE (talk) 12:56, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
That sentence in the lead is one of only two sentences that formed the article when I started expanding it. I have now rewritten the lead. The article you mention would be useful, thank you, and I will see what I can do about replacing the unreliable sources.
I had difficulty in thinking how to word the hook because the diagonal separates the country floristically and this article is meant to be about the wildlife in general. I might scrap this as a two article hook and concentrate on the Anatolian diagonal alone, or scrap the whole thing. I have just written the Wildlife of Yemen, and that is a much better article. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 14:13, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
@Smartse: Thank you for the paper. I have rewritten much of Anatolian diagonal. How about
Thanks for the edits. Anatolian diagonal and the hook are good to go Symbol confirmed.svg but flora of Turkey still contains the unreliable sources, so is Symbol possible vote.svg for now. If it's not easy to fix, just remove the information and link to Flora and vegetation of Turkey in the hook instead (there's no mention of the divide there yet). SmartSE (talk) 21:00, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Myrmecia inquilina

Improved to Good Article status by Burklemore1 (talk). Nominated by Oceanh (talk) at 23:27, 19 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg This newly promoted GA is new enough and long enough. I struck ALT1 as boring. I changed the word inquiline in the original hook to "parasitic" because an inquiline does not harm its host whereas this ant clearly does. The hook fact is cited inline, the article is neutral and I detected no close paraphrasing. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:34, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Cereal Research Centre

  • ... that research at the Cereal Research Centre in Winnipeg led to the development of several hundred varieties of plant species resistant to pests and blights?

Moved to mainspace by Mindmatrix (talk). Self-nominated at 22:29, 19 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg NSERC reference [7] leads to a generic page and Industry Canada reference [9] does not work. Also the phrase "several hundred" cannot be directly verified. I can see some numbers regarding the varieties but they add up to less than 300. Also the phrase "About 50% of all wheat and oat sown in Canada are varieties..." does not specify how many total and if they are disease resistant. The rest of the DYK requirements look good. More details when the questions are resolved. Dr. K. 19:19, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
I've added an archive link for the NSERC ref; the Industry Canada ref seems to have disappeared from the internet. (Perhaps I shouldn't have left this in userspace for ten months.) The "several hundred" can be changed to "over two hundred" or "over two hundred and fifty"; I originally used the phrase to avoid saying "hundreds", which seemed misleading to me. Regarding the "about 50%..." statement, it's (unfortunately) sourced to the Industry Canada ref; I'll see if I can find another source to elaborate in the next few days. According to the NSERC ref, they are all disease-resistant varieties, per the quotation included in the article "high-yielding, disease-resistant varieties", which I squirreled away into an earlier paragraph but neglected to mention the most important bit, which I'll fix soon. Mindmatrix 02:55, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
Great, thank you Mindmatrix. If you propose an ALT1 with the more precise phrasing I will approve it and it will be good to go. Dr. K. 03:06, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

St Symphorien Military Cemetery

5x expanded by Labattblueboy (talk). Self-nominated at 21:52, 19 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg A1: Expansion began on 15 November (should really have been placed on that date, not 19 November, but that is less important) and by my count has been expanded from about 2,800 character to slightly less than 12,000 characters, a fivefold expansion would be an expansion to c. 14,000 characters. A2: Needs about another 2,000 characters to be expanded five-fold. A3: Neutral. Cites sources (although ref. 14, central for hook alternative 1, is dead). No copy-vio found.
H1: Both hooks are short enough. H2: I find both hooks interesting. They are cited, and are neutral. One of the links used as reference for hook 1 is however dead. No BLP issues.
According to QPQ check, user only have two DYKs from before, so no QPQ needed.
Needs another 2,000 characters, and if hook 1 were to be used, it would be nice if the 404 link that is the reference for the first Commonwealth soldier to die would be fixed. Manxruler (talk) 03:35, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

1996 Andhra Pradesh cyclone

Satellite image and map of the Andhra Pradesh cyclone approaching India
Satellite image and map of the Andhra Pradesh cyclone approaching India

Improved to Good Article status by Hurricanehink (talk). Nominated by Oceanh (talk) at 20:50, 19 November 2015 (UTC).

Midori Suzuki (soprano)

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 18:10, 19 November 2015 (UTC).

Vera Fedorovna Gaze

Created by SusunW (talk). Self-nominated at 16:36, 19 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg Article is new enough, long enough and well referenced. Hook is short enough, interesting, neutral, and cited in the article. That she had a minor planet and a crater on Venus named for her is verified in online references. AGF on book reference for her discovery of around 150 emission nebulae. Spot checks did not reveal close paraphrasing. QPQ done. Oceanh (talk) 22:02, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

HTC RE Camera

HTC RE camera
HTC RE camera

Moved to mainspace by SSTflyer (talk). Self-nominated at 16:06, 19 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article is new enough and long enough, appropriately referenced, interesting and neutral enough. Hook is short enough, interesting, cited in the article, and verified in online references. Spot checks did not reveal close paraphrasing. Picture license good, and the picture is used in the article. QPQ done. Oceanh (talk) 23:18, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Herbert Grove Dorsey

Created by Doug Coldwell (talk). Self-nominated at 14:02, 19 November 2015 (UTC).

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol confirmed.svg Very nice job. I might note that the nominator might consider a shorter hook that would draw more readers. Like: ... that Herbert Grove Dorsey invented the first practical fathometer for ships? In this form the reader is lured into clicking fathometer to find out what the heck it is.Georgejdorner (talk) 19:19, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

@Georgejdorner: - thanks for suggestion = better improvement for a hook! Recently found a Flickr picture of a Submarine Signal Co fathometer model. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:35, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg Suggested ALT1 adopted and approved. New graphic approved for use provided it is free use or licensed to WP.Georgejdorner (talk) 03:32, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Jakarta Marathon

Created by Human3015 (talk). Self-nominated at 07:48, 19 November 2015 (UTC).

  • I'll review this article. Also, I fixed some grammatical errors. @Human3015: I also suggest ALT3, a grammar rewrite of ALT1, and ALT2, a rewrite of Hook 1: epic genius (talk) 15:15, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
  • ALT2: ... that the Jakarta Marathon is considered the "biggest running event of Indonesia"?
  • ALT3: ... that in the 2014 edition of Indonesia's Jakarta Marathon, a limited number of African athletes were invited because of the 2014 Ebola outbreak in Africa?
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol confirmed.svg epic genius (talk) 15:15, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

@Epicgenius: Thanks for your review, can you tell what exactly are the issues with article? I don't have any problem with alternative hooks provided by you. I have stricken other hooks. Thanks for correction. I think article is interesting, it is prime marathon of Indonesia. --Human3015TALK  15:46, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
@Human3015: The only problem I had was with the hooks. Also, I checked one of the sources, which said "2015 edition," so I paraphrased. epic genius (talk) 15:47, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
And also, ALT3 is more interesting than ALT2. epic genius (talk) 15:49, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
@Epicgenius: Ok, if there was only problem of hooks then I have stricken my hook and kept only improved hooks by you. I think if there is no other issue then you give tick mark to the article to close this. Thank you. --Human3015TALK  16:00, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg Done. ALT3 is good to go. epic genius (talk) 16:02, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 20[edit]

Wildlife of Yemen

Created by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 07:23, 23 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg The article is new, substantially longer than required, well referenced and neutral. Hook checks out and I found it interesting personally. QPQ was done and a quick check revealed no plagiarism or close paraphrasing. Toдor Boжinov 09:49, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

113 East Roosevelt

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 14:17, 22 November 2015 (UTC).

Cello Concerto (Waterhouse)

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 21:39, 21 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New enough, as 6.4X expanded on November 20. It is more than long enough at 4k bytes of prose. Article written in a neutral, dispassionate manner. Each paragraph has at least one inline citation supporting claims. No close paraphrasing or other copyvio issues detected. Hook is within policy length and interest. Hook is neutral. Unfortunately, I can't find the reference for the 1995 performance in Mexico of this composition, either in the cited source or any of the others. QPQ complete.
  • Thanks for diligent looking! I added a ref for Mexico. Cambridge is in the program of the orchestra, #8, while the other (#5) is one of several saying that he studied in Cambridge. What do you think - based on [26] - of something like:
ALT1: ... that after Graham Waterhouse performed as the soloist of his Cello concerto in Switzerland, Mexico, Siberia and Germany, he plays it today in London where he was born?
... which would be more interesting mentioning the 25 years between first and that one. We could also wait until afterwards. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:50, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
Symbol question.svg ALT1 contains facts not in the article. (Siberia?) I like the idea of running this hook on the day of performance, but I think that would need to be cited to an extra-strong, independent source to avoid any appearance of promotional-ism. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 21:39, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
Just a thought. Let's drop ALT1 then, but it was what finally made me fill the old red link ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:49, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Peak oil

  • ... that a 2014 thesis predicted peak oil would occur in 2035?

Improved to Good Article status by Blandx (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 13:28, 21 November 2015 (UTC).

Dak bungalow

A floating dak bungalow in difficulties
A floating dak bungalow in difficulties
  • ... that "nothing is too wild, grotesque, or horrible to happen in a dak bungalow" (pictured)?

Created by LlywelynII (talk). Self-nominated at 04:30, 21 November 2015 (UTC).

  • New, sourced, and long enough, however article needs work, to clarify the concept. This seems to be a definition of a category of buildings by function (utilitarian, government-built structures constructed under the Raj) not building type (such as a Quonset hut or, well, a bungalow). Page lacks categories. And it is not clear why creator also created Dak Bungalow. Perhaps a merge of the two pages would be better.-->E.M.Gregory (talk) 12:44, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
  • It's fine to note things you'd like to see improved, but kindly point out which actual policy is being violated here, move on with the review, or don't consider this one for QPQ purposes. Your second sentence simply seems to be an observation and implies the concept is already perfectly clear. Dak Bungalow is a separate page because it is a separate concept, concerning the name as a proper noun. — LlywelynII 07:22, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg I've added quote marks to alt2. Even so this is a quote from a book of fiction. Rhetoric question: How many of the millions of the tragic result of the 1857 rebellion were living in dak bungalows? Victuallers (talk) 17:22, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Fair enough. Added quote marks to other two options, if they're needed in this context. W/r/t to your rhetorical question: Rhetorical questions aren't meant to be answered but I'm not sure what you're talking about. The tragic results being Indians who generally only served as attendants at the dak bungalows? Not millions. Or the British who were massacred there, of whom there also weren't millions? But the page already has cites for some of the massacres at the time and their role in evacuating civilian British. — LlywelynII 07:22, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Monument of the Four Moors

The Monument of the Four Moors
The Monument of the Four Moors

Created by Dr.K. (talk). Self-nominated at 01:10, 21 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg New enough, long enough, meets core content policies. Hook cited to RS. GTG. --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 15:45, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Needs QPQ actually. --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 15:47, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Restoring tick. --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 17:27, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
  • I've removed the first "four" from the hook, as it is redundant, and reads better without it. Edwardx (talk) 14:32, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Good point. Thank you Edwardx. Dr. K. 15:10, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Frances Gertrude McGill

  • ... that Frances Gertrude McGill, a Canadian forensic pathologist, was sometimes called the "Sherlock Holmes of Saskatchewan"?

Created by Big iron (talk). Self-nominated at 17:15, 20 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svgDate, creation, referencing, and verifiability for the hook all check out. Article follows wikipedia's policies. QPQ is good too. Nice work!4meter4 (talk) 21:26, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg There is some close paraphrasing when run through Earwig's detector. Please see here and here to eliminate the sentences in red. Dr. K. 16:52, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
I have done some rewording to eliminate paraphrasing where possible. Note that, unlike the more commonly-used copyvio report, Earwig's detector does not appear to have an option to ignore intentional quoting. --Big_iron (talk) 22:12, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg. Good to go. Article now cleaned-up and is fully compliant with policy in al other regards. As a clarification, the phrases in quotes are clear on Earwig's detector and were not required to be cleaned up. My initial comment concerned the sentences that were not quotes. Thank you for your work Big iron. Best regards. Dr. K. 23:25, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Ao Li

Converted from a redirect by 4meter4 (talk). Self-nominated at 21:30, 20 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Creation date and length are fine. The article is very well sourced, the only weak point being maybe the absence of information about his family life. No close paragraphing, plagiarism or copyright issues found according to Earwig. The hook is interesting, adequately cited and its length is ok. QPQ done. Good to go! Alex2006 (talk) 10:58, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

History of York City F.C. (1980–present)

Improved to Good Article status by Mattythewhite (talk). Self-nominated at 16:54, 20 November 2015 (UTC).

1000 South Michigan

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self-nominated at 07:27, 20 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Date, length, source and hook all check out. Made some minor amendments to the text. Good to go. Mattythewhite (talk) 16:49, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 21[edit]

Spring Creek, Brooklyn

  • Reviewed: To come soon

Converted from a redirect by Tdorante10 (talk). Nominated by Epicgenius (talk) at 00:39, 24 November 2015 (UTC).

Sheraton Skyline Hotel at London Heathrow

5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk), SusunW (talk), and Miyagawa (talk). Nominated by Miyagawa (talk) at 12:59, 23 November 2015 (UTC).

Effects of Hurricane Dennis in Haiti

Hurricane Dennis over the Jamaica Channel on July 7, 2005
Hurricane Dennis over the Jamaica Channel on July 7, 2005

Created by Cyclonebiskit (talk). Self-nominated at 18:25, 22 November 2015 (UTC).

Butter grading

  • ... that butter is graded as "AA", "A", or "B" in the US, but in Canada is graded "Canada 1", "Canada 2", or "Canada 3"?

Created by 78.26 (talk). Self-nominated at 01:52, 22 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Comment Hook wording tweaked slightly. Edwardx (talk) 14:26, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

List of Padma Vibhushan award recipients

Edmund Hillary (left) & Sherpa Tenzing (right)
Edmund Hillary (left) & Sherpa Tenzing (right)
  • ... that as of 2015, India's second highest civilian award, has been conferred upon 18 non-citizen recipients including Edmund Hillary (pictured left), one of the first climbers to reach the summit of Mount Everest?

5x expanded by Vivvt (talk). Self-nominated at 16:58, 21 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article is long enough and posted by due date. Hook touches 200 ch, is interesting, cited and verified. No copy vio noted. Text is neutral. QPQ done. Img is freely licensed. Good to go.Nvvchar. 03:08, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Lidija Liepiņa

  • ... that Lidija Liepiņa worked with a team of other scientists in a mobile laboratory in a train boxcar, testing filters to create Russia's first functional gas mask?

Created by SusunW (talk). Self-nominated at 16:14, 21 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg New enough, long enough, hook looks good and is cited inline, fully cited, no copyvio detected, QPQ done. Good to go - I prefer the first hook. Great job! Keilana (talk) 22:16, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Ackerly Creek

  • ... that the watershed of Ackerly Creek is the most developed part of the Tunkhannock Creek watershed?

Moved to mainspace by Jakec (talk). Self-nominated at 16:08, 21 November 2015 (UTC).

Kennedy Creek

Kennedy Creek
Kennedy Creek
  • ... that Kennedy Creek (pictured) is only about 5 miles (8.0 km) long, but is popular for canoeing?

Moved to mainspace by Jakec (talk). Self-nominated at 16:09, 21 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Done. --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 03:51, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol voting keep.svg New and long enough, all non-lead paragraphs have inline citations, image is properly licensed, content of the hook is verified with inline citations to reliable sources, QPQ review performed, checks for copyvio reveals no problems (e.g. [27]). I'm unable to view the source verifying the creek's length, but AGF that it's available per the link provided in the article. North America1000 23:23, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Oxbow Inlet

  • ... that the silica, iron, magnesium, calcium, and sulfate concentrations of the 1.5-mile (2.4 km) long Oxbow Inlet were measured in 1966?

Moved to mainspace by Jakec (talk). Self-nominated at 16:11, 21 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Comment That hook is VERY dull. Is it not possible to find something even vaguely interesting? Edwardx (talk) 14:23, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
  • On the contrary, I find it rather remarkable that a anyone would bother to do any kind of study on such a small stream, and that the results would actually be floating around in the internet somewhere. --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 15:07, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Thanks. Now that you explain it in context, I do see your point. But I'm not convinced that the general public will pick up on that. I've had a go at an ALT1 to try to make it clearer:
  • ALT1 ... although only 1.5-mile (2.4 km) long, Oxbow Inlet‍‍ '​‍s mineral concentrations were measured in 1966?

A. Arnim White

Created by Hawkeye7 (talk). Self-nominated at 10:16, 21 November 2015 (UTC).

Thawun Gyi

Created by Hybernator (talk). Self-nominated at 20:27, 22 November 2015 (UTC).

Social Interaction Anxiety Scale

Created by Emma.marie.p (talk). Nominated by Emma.marie.p (talk) at 18:05, 23 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment: This transclusion was not correct, so I had fixed it. epic genius (talk) 00:49, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 22[edit]

Heðin á Lakjuni

Heðin á Lakjuni playing for KÍ Klaksvík in 2012.
Heðin á Lakjuni playing for KÍ Klaksvík in 2012.

Created by Hansi667 (talk). Self-nominated at 13:29, 23 November 2015 (UTC).

Sinanitsa

Sinanitsa towering above the eponymous cirque lake and hut in the foreground
Sinanitsa towering above the eponymous cirque lake and hut in the foreground
  • ... that the marble peak Sinanitsa in Pirin is regarded as one of Bulgaria's most beautiful summits?

Created by TodorBozhinov (talk). Self-nominated at 09:50, 23 November 2015 (UTC).

Hygrophoropsis aurantiaca

Hygrophoropsis aurantiaca, showing gills.
Hygrophoropsis aurantiaca, showing gills.
  • ... that the false chanterelle (pictured) is called guin‍ '​xacan ("delightful") or kia's gio‍ '​ ("iguana lard") by the Tepehuán people of northwestern Mexico?

Improved to Good Article status by Sasata (talk) and Casliber (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 00:15, 23 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg It is new (promoted to a good article on November 22). The prose portion is more than 1500 characters (it is 11072 characters). I don't see any policy violations, and the hook meets the format requirements. You're image is good. The image, hook, and article are all interesting. Also, you've met the QPQ requirement. Ashorocetus (talk) 17:05, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Texas Tommy (hot dog)

Created by Northamerica1000 (talk). Self-nominated at 23:29, 22 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article is newly expanded and meets the minimum size requirement happily. The hook is directed cited, and the rest of the article has suitable referencing. Spot checks are clear of any copy violations. No images to check. Good to go. Miyagawa (talk) 12:56, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Alice Agogino

Created by Keilana (talk). Self-nominated at 22:20, 22 November 2015 (UTC).

Symbol voting keep.svg Article is long enough and new enough. QPQ done. No image to review. Hook is correctly formatted. AGF on first source which is offline. Article is neutral and well written. I detected no copyvios or close paraphrasing. It's good to go. Philafrenzy (talk) 13:40, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Nevado Tres Cruces

The two peaks in the background.
The two peaks in the background.
  • ... that the sixth highest mountain (pictured) in South America is a volcano last active 28,000 years ago that might erupt again?

5x expanded by Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk). Self-nominated at 21:13, 22 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg Article is long enough and recently expanded more than 5x, interesting, neutral and appropriately referenced. Hook is short enough, interesting, and cited in the article. AGF on book reference and online foreign language reference. Spot checks did not reveal close paraphrasing. Picture is used in the article, and Commons license seems to be ok. QPQ done. Oceanh (talk) 00:26, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
  • South America and volcano unlinked - both common terms, per WP:OVERLINK. Edwardx (talk) 14:22, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Elisa Oricchio

Created by SusunW (talk). Self-nominated at 18:52, 22 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg New article, long enough, appropriately referenced, interesting, and neutrally written. Hook is neutral and interesting, and cited in the article. AGF on referenced research report (which did not load properly into my browser). Spot checks did not reveal close paraphrasing. (Earwig's Copyvio Detector found several matches, but for the publication list.) QPQ done. Oceanh (talk) 22:17, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

The Kudan

Created by Carlojoseph14 (talk). Self-nominated at 15:21, 22 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Comment Hook wordings tweaked slightly. Edwardx (talk) 14:20, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

List of L.A. Noire characters

Aaron Staton
Aaron Staton
Brendan McNamara
Brendan McNamara
  • ALT1:... that writer Brendan McNamara (pictured) wanted players to connect to the characters of L.A. Noire in a way not previously achieved in video games?
  • ALT2:... that writer Brendan McNamara (pictured) wanted to develop the characters of L.A. Noire throughout the game's story?
  • Reviewed: Life Is Strange
  • Comment: Image of Aaron Staton fits with hook. Image of Brendan McNamara fits with ALT1 and ALT2.

Created by Rhain1999 (talk). Self-nominated at 07:37, 22 November 2015 (UTC).

  • I've made the article that's the subject of the DYK bold, as per the process's formatting requirements. I also have to say that I like the main hook and ALT1 significantly better than ALT2, because ALT2 is something that just about every character-driven video game can claim. Mobile Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 15:32, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Jessica Garretson Finch

  • ... that Jessica Finch coined the phrase "current events" to help work her way through college?

Created by E.M.Gregory (talk). Self-nominated at 12:19, 22 November 2015 (UTC).

  • I think that the hook would be a bit better if it was a bit clearer. Also, the hook has to contain a bold link to the article that's the subject of the DYK. I've proposed an alternative below; E.M.Gregory please let me know what you think. Mobile Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 15:40, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
ALT1: ... that Jessica Garretson Finch coined the phrase "current events" while serving as a part-time teacher to put herself through college?
That works well, thank you.E.M.Gregory (talk) 16:56, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Are we sure about the accuracy of this statement? I found "It will be in the recollection of every one who is in the habit of attending to current events, that ..." ("Mr. Congreve's Rockets", The Times, Sep 26, 1807; pg. 2) and "at the present moment current events furnish so much matter for animadversion, that ..." (Letter to the editor, Bath Chronicle and Weekly Gazette, 15 March 1827). There may well be more. Philafrenzy (talk) 12:54, 23 November 2015 (UTC)


Symbol voting keep.svg The article is new (created two days ago), long enough (over 2,000 characters), it's written form a neutral POV, and it cites inline citations. The hook is short enough (almost 140 characters), interesting, cited in the article, NPOV and non-negative. It's E.M. Gregory's first nomination, and thus QPQ is not applied. Hansi667 (Neighbor Of The Beast) a penny for your thoughts? 13:20, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

  • Comment What about the fact that the hook is probably wrong? Philafrenzy (talk) 14:07, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Good point, User:Philafrenzy. I was simple-mindedly following the source, but it is NOT a good idea to hook with a well-sourced factoid that is demonstrably wrong.E.M.Gregory (talk) 14:47, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
I am sure you can find something else good. We have better sources now than they had in the 1940s. Philafrenzy (talk) 14:49, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
ALT2: ... that Jessica Garretson Finch founded Finch College to train young women for careers, but it became a famous finishing school?E.M.Gregory (talk) 15:21, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Christopher John O'Neill

Created by The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk). Nominated at 03:44, 22 November 2015 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on November 23[edit]

Kuomintang in Burma

Created by ZGantz (talk). Nominated by Clpo13 (talk) at 00:00, 24 November 2015 (UTC).

Porcupine (Cheyenne)

Created by Spinningspark (talk). Self-nominated at 19:07, 23 November 2015 (UTC).

  • I would dearly love to use the attempt to stop a train by lassoing it as the hook, but I have no evidence the Porcupine was directly involved in that, so it's hard to write it. SpinningSpark 20:52, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Father Christmas (computer worm)

5x expanded by Miyagawa (talk). Self-nominated at 10:50, 23 November 2015 (UTC).

Liang Cheng

Liang Cheng
Liang Cheng

Created by Howcheng (talk). Self-nominated at 08:05, 23 November 2015 (UTC).

Jorge Alonso

2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Royroydeb (talk). Self-nominated at 17:08, 23 November 2015 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on November 24[edit]

Every Day Is a Holiday

Created/expanded by SNUGGUMS (talk). Self-nominated at 01:09, 24 November 2015 (UTC).

Special occasion holding area[edit]

Do not nominate articles in this section—​nominate all articles in the nominations section above, under the date on which the article was created or moved to mainspace, or the expansion began; indicate in the nomination any request for a specially timed appearance on the main page.
Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated (i) within seven days of creation or expansion (as usual) and (ii) between five days and six weeks before the occasion, to give reviewers time to check the nomination. April Fools' Day is an exception to these requirements; see Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know.

November 26 (Thanksgiving (United States))[edit]

November 29 (Centenary of death)[edit]

Vincent McNamara

  • Reviewed: C. L. Blood
  • Comment: For 29 November if possible, please: centenary of death in WWI

5x expanded by FunkyCanute (talk). Self-nominated at 12:47, 27 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Article size and expansion is fine, and it is referenced with inline citations. Some of the references are bare urls, these should be fixed before it can be approved for DYK. Hook is interesting, cited in the article, and verified in online reference. The "Balmoral Brawl" is explained in the article. Spot checks did not reveal close paraphrasing. QPQ done. Oceanh (talk) 11:10, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg · Thanks for fixing the urls. Oceanh (talk) 01:34, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

December 9 (Robert Burgess centenary of death)[edit]

Robert Burgess (rugby)

5x expanded by FunkyCanute (talk). Self-nominated at 13:38, 29 October 2015 (UTC).

  • @FunkyCanute: Did you mean Nov 29 as the centenary? You have the approved Vincent McNamara in a subsection that says November 29 (Centenary of death). Oh, now I know what you're doing. Centenary of death of the individual. Never mind. — Maile (talk) 00:36, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
  • ALT1 ... that a hundred years ago today, Robert Burgess was killed after being knocked off his bike by a shell?
  • Symbol voting keep.svg This article is new enough and long enough. I have replaced the word "bomb" in the hook by the word "shell". The hook fact has an inline citation to an offline source and is accepted in good faith. The article is neutral and I detected no policy issues. If this is to appear on the mainpage on December 9th, ALT1 could be used, and I have added a citation to cover his date of death. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:22, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

December 10 (Ada Lovelace's 200th birthday)[edit]

Christine Liang

  • ... that ASI Corp., a wholesale distributor of computer components founded by Christine Liang, is one of the largest women-owned businesses in the United States?

Created by Yoninah (talk). Self-nominated at 22:20, 18 November 2015 (UTC).

  • ALT1: ... that with 2014 revenues of $1.39 billion, ASI Corp., a wholesale distributor of computer components founded by Christine Liang, is one of the largest women-owned businesses in the United States? Yoninah (talk) 10:00, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
Review by Maile
  • QPQ by Yoninah
Eligibility
  • Article created by Yoninah on November 18, 2015 and has 2962 characters (0 words) "readable prose size"
  • Article is NPOV, currently stable, no edit wars, no dispute tags
Sourcing
  • Every paragraph sourced inline and online
  • No bare URLs, and no external links used as inline source
Hook
  • Hook is 166 characters, NPOV, stated in the article and sourced
  • ALT1 hook is 193 characters, NPOV, stated in the article and sourced
Image
  • No image used either in the nomination or the article
Tools
  • Earwig's tool says Violation unlikely, and spot check, showed no copyvio/close paraphrasing issues of concern.

Symbol confirmed.svg Good 2 go, as noted above. — Maile (talk) 23:32, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Kathryn Parsons

Kathryn Parsons
Kathryn Parsons
  • ... that Kathryn Parsons (pictured) co-founded a startup that teaches people how to "code in a day"?

Created by Yoninah (talk). Self-nominated at 23:08, 5 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg New enough, long enough, image is free, neutral, no copyvio detected, hook is interesting and cited, QPQ done. Good to go. Keilana (talk) 06:13, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Comment: Please save for December 10 - Ada Lovelace 200th birthday. Yoninah (talk) 00:58, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Marguerite Lehr

  • ... that Marguerite Lehr conducted a televised lecture course on mathematics in the 1950s?

Created by Keilana (talk). Self-nominated at 19:05, 14 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Everything OK. New, long, neutral, no copyvio, cited, hook fact verified, QPQ OK. Good to go. Snek01 (talk) 22:47, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

Charlotte Sahl-Madsen

Catherine Sahl-Madsen
Catherine Sahl-Madsen
  • ... that Charlotte Sahl-Madsen (pictured) has led Lego R&D, a Ministry of Science and Technology and the "Universe"?

Created by Victuallers (talk). Self-nominated at 10:34, 11 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article is long enough and posted by due date. Hooks are interesting, cited and verified. No copy vio noted. Text is neutral. QPQ done/ Good to go.Nvvchar. 00:53, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

Louise Hay (mathematician)

5x expanded by SusunW (talk). Self-nominated at 16:07, 9 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Offering ALT1 above. — Maile (talk) 22:18, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article is well written, long enough and posted by due date. Both original and ALT1 hooks are interesting, cited and verified. No copy vio noted. Text is neutral. QPQ done. I prefer the original hook. Good to go.Nvvchar. 05:19, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Vera Faddeeva

Created by SusunW (talk). Self-nominated at 23:21, 11 November 2015 (UTC).

Symbol voting keep.svg Thank you for another interesting bio of a woman, on solid sources + her publications which speak for themselves. Russian source accepted AGF. Open for some mentioning in the hook that it/she was Russian, book soon translated to English, award-winning, - but it's fine as is, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:05, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Gloria Lim

Created by SusunW (talk). Nominated by Yoninah (talk) at 20:53, 9 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Newly created and fully cited. The hook fact had a direct citation. Meets minimum size for DYK, and I'm quite fond of the hook fact. No copy vios detected. Good to go. Miyagawa (talk) 13:06, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Catherine A. Lozupone

Created by SusunW (talk). Self-nominated at 16:21, 13 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg Another great article, Susun! Date, length and references are fine, and there are no issues with neutrality or close paraphrasing. Hook fact is cited to an offline (for me, at least) source but seems to be supported by other sources too. QPQ done. 97198 (talk) 13:46, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

Kathryn Ferguson Fink

  • Reviewed: Mary Philadelphia Merrifield
  • Comment: For the women in science editathon. For once the woman in a scientist couple gets an article first!

Created by Opabinia regalis (talk). Self-nominated at 02:52, 10 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Created on 9 November, long enough, well referenced, neutral, and appears to be free from close paraphrasing issues. Hook is interesting and cited. QPQ done. 97198 (talk) 11:02, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
*ALT1 ... that biochemist Kathryn Ferguson Fink's cancer research was radiolabeling in conjunction with paper chromatography for the study of metabolic pathways, with clinical applications?
192 characters. How about a hook that emphasizes her work rather than her being the first woman to do something? — Maile (talk) 13:31, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
@Maile66: Not the first woman, the first anybody to do this. (Probably because the men all had appointments at the main campus, as her husband did.) But if you'd rather focus on the work, maybe a shorter version? Opabinia regalis (talk) 18:06, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
@Opabinia regalis: Striking my version of a hook, because I like yours much better. Other than that, my offering an ALT hook was because of a thread at WT:DYK mentioning an abundance of hooks that were about women being first in one thing or another. In the end, it's the promoter's choice. — Maile (talk) 18:14, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg Re-ticking this now that the nominator has offered ALT2. It's stated in the article and sourced. Unlinked PhD and MD per WP:MOS, as stated below by Edwardx. — Maile (talk) 18:27, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Comment PhD and MD per WP:MOS. They should be unlinked too, in my view. Edwardx (talk) 14:08, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Katherine Belov

Created by SusunW (talk). Self-nominated at 14:53, 14 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg. Article is long enough and posted before due date. Both hooks are interesting, cited and verified. No copy vio noted. Text maintains neutrality. QPQ done. I prefer ALT1 hook. Good to go.Nvvchar. 08:18, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the review Nvvchar I was torn. The Tasmanian devil stuff was what hooked me into writing about her, but that platypus venom is fascinating. I sincerely hope I am never bitten by one ;) SusunW (talk) 14:37, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Cecilia Bouzat

5x expanded by Gracevevans (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 17:32, 13 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg On 2 June 537 char, on day of nomination 2818 char 5x = 2685/ Long enough. Nom on day expansion completed/new enough. Neutrally worded. No apparent copyvios. QPQ completed. Hook 127 char/under maximum. Is verified immediately following statement and interesting. A few in-line citations missing: "husband had the first of their two children" and the entire section marked "Research focus" except first sentence. Photo is free use per commons with attribution, however, is not used in the article and cannot appear in DYK unless it is in the article. Since our subject is not in the photo, I am not sure that it is necessary to link the photo of the president? L'Oréal-UNESCO Awards for Women in Science is overlinked. Appears as a link 3 times. Also need a c/e on the last paragraph. 3rd sentence beginning "in 2014, she received an award from L'Oréal-UNESCO Awards for Women in Science" does not begin with a capital "In" and repeats most of the information given in the top 2 sentences. Nothing major to fix, but if you can fix these few items, should be GTG. SusunW (talk) 01:13, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the review Susun. I have addressed all the points (a 3rd editor deleted the picture before you saw it). I think the rule is one ref per para but I have taken your interpretation and referenced or removed items that were not cited. (They are from translating so you may see more than me). I think this a very good first article by @Gracevevans. Cheers Victuallers (talk) 11:02, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Great! All items addressed. Looks good to go. Congratulations Gracevevans. (For the record, I am going to clarify that she was a Laureate and not a fellow, as the annual L'Oréal awards have two tiers). SusunW (talk) 14:16, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Una Ryan, Una M. Ryan

Created by SusunW (talk). Self-nominated at 15:26, 13 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Both articles are large enough, referenced throughout, neutral, created in the last 5 days and so new enough. 2 QPQ's done. I think the hooks are being a bit tricky in not having "Una M. Ryan" visible. But I will check if that is normal or not for her name before rejecting on that basis. Hook alt 1 just scrapes by with about 200 characters, but the original hook is short enough. Hook facts for Una Ryan in article referenced, and confirmed. However facts for Una M. Ryan are only partial. We cannot see that she studied biology, or that she received a Prime Minister's Prizes for Science in the article. I think I know that Frank Fenner Prize for Life Scientist of the Year might be one of those prizes, but I suspect that 99% of readers will not, and I am not that confident. So please fix up the article to clarify. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 07:03, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
  • The "M" is there because that is how I had to distinguish them. When I was researching one, I kept running in to the other. So it isn't tricky at all, just their normal use of their names. She is a biochemist, a biologist who studies body chemistry. You are correct, I had it in the lede, but not in the body. It is corrected now, but I am confused about the part of the Fenner Prize. Both in the lede and body the file says "the Frank Fenner Prize for Life Scientist of the Year from the Prime Minister of Australia." SusunW (talk) 13:09, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Just because the Prime Minister of Australia awards the prize does not make it automatically the Prime Minister's Prizes for Science, so I think that article should make that clear, otherwise the hook is not supported. Though I will check the biology update. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 20:48, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Graeme Bartlett I'm still not sure what you are asking for. If you look at the link you have cited, it clearly shows the Fenner Prize. This link [28] shows the Fenner Prize is one of the Prime Minister's Prizes and is the Life Sciences Prize. The link on the file shows she received the "Minister's Prize for Achievement in the Life Sciences" [29] This link [30] shows the Life Sciences Prize is Given by the Prime Minister. I stuck all three links on her file, but is seems like overkill. It is cited on a page I did not create, it is cited in multiple links. I do not understand why are you suggesting that the Fenner Prize is not an award of the PM? SusunW (talk) 22:38, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
  • what I am saying is that the article has to be clear that the Fenner award is part of the Prime Minister's Prizes for Science. It is not, so the hook is not supported. Also biology is not the same thing as biochemistry so the other hook is not confirmed either. Perhaps the hook can change biology to biochemistry, or there can be a sourced addition to the article to say that Ryan studied biology. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:18, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Graeme Bartlett She is most definitely a biologist, as all of her writings state that. I was able to find a source which states specifically that her specialties in biology were zoology and parasitology, making it even more hooky. I also changed the wording in the body on the prize, which hopefully now meets your approval. SusunW (talk) 15:25, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Great. That fixes the problems. The hooks are both now confirmed in the article by citation, and the facts check out. I perfer original hook. But good to go with either hook. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 20:49, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

May Owen

  • ... that May Owen discovered that the talcum powder used on surgical gloves caused infection and peritoneal scarring?

Created by SusunW (talk). Self-nominated at 16:22, 15 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Created and moved into mainspace today and meets the minimum size requirements. The hook fact is directly cited, as is the rest of the article. No issues with copy violations as spot checks didn't pick anything up. Good to go. Miyagawa (talk) 21:09, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

Diana Marcela Bolaños Rodriguez

Created by SusunW (talk). Self-nominated at 00:46, 17 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg New enough, long enough, within policy. Hook: it is short enough, it is interesting enough, and the fact is confirmed with an inline citation. No apparent close-paraphrasing. All non-lede paragraphs have refs; all refs appear to be RS. Very well-cited article. No image. QPQ done. GTG. --Rosiestep (talk) 02:28, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Catherine Feuillet

Created by SusunW (talk) and Charles01 (talk). Nominated by SusunW (talk) at 16:36, 11 November 2015 (UTC).

Review by Maile
  • QPQ by SusanW
Eligibility
  • Article created by SusunW on November 6, 2015 and has 3125 characters (0 words) "readable prose size"
  • Article is NPOV, currently stable, no edit wars, no dispute tags
Sourcing
  • Every paragraph sourced inline and online, some sourcing in the French language
  • No bare URLs, and no external links used as inline source
Hook
  • Hook is 88 characters, NPOV, stated in the article and sourced in English 1, 2
Image
  • No image used either in the nomination or the article
Tools
  • Duplication Detector, Earwig's tool, and spot check, on every online source showed no copyvio/close paraphrasing issues of concern.

Symbol voting keep.svg AGF on sourcing in French. This is Good2Go. — Maile (talk) 22:21, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Andrea Ablasser

Andrea Ablasser
Andrea Ablasser
  • ... that Andrea Ablasser (pictured) discovered a molecule that warns nearby cells when it encounters a pathogen?
  • Reviewed: Turbinellus kauffmanii
  • Comment: Not sure if "pathogen" is a widely understood word or if it's better to say "infectious agent" or something similar.

Created by 97198 (talk). Self-nominated at 13:26, 13 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Created on Nov 9, nom on Nov 13/new enough. 2104 char/long enough. Neutral. In-line citations. No apparent copyvios. Photo free to use with attribution per commons. Hook 97 char/under maximum. Very interesting. Cited immediately following reference. QPQ verified. GTG. SusunW (talk) 16:15, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

December 11 (Toshiko Yuasa birthday)[edit]

Toshiko Yuasa

Toshiko Yuasa
Toshiko Yuasa
  • ... that Toshiko Yuasa (pictured) was Japan's first woman physicist?

Created by 97198 (talk). Self-nominated at 13:45, 6 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg New enough, long enough, well-cited, no copyvio detected, hook cited and (very!) interesting, QPQ done, good to go. Women scientists FTW. Keilana (talk) 07:46, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
Offering an ALT as a focus on her work. — Maile (talk) 15:56, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg Checked and reffed the alt hook Victuallers (talk) 08:23, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Are we saving this hook for Ada Lovelace Day or Yuasa's own birthday, Dec.11th? --PFHLai (talk) 07:34, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the suggestion, @PFHLai:. Moving to December 11. Yoninah (talk) 21:48, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

December 12 (Frank Sinatra centenary)[edit]

Frank Sinatra

Frank Sinatra
Frank Sinatra

Improved to Good Article status by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Oceanh (talk) at 21:19, 25 October 2015 (UTC).

@Oceanh: @LavaBaron: I'm going to have to object to the hook on this. I think the hook should be something much grander like "that American music critic Robert Christgau referred to Frank Sinatra as "the greatest singer of the 20th century". I've also moved this from Oct 25 to special holding area. It's his centenary on December 12th and I think we should reserve this for the lead article of DYK and make an exception to host it for a full 24 hours on December 12th. I originally intended taking it to FA but I'm content to settle for GA. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:16, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Excellent points, Dr. Blofeld. I rather prefer the original hook simply because I don't think there's a lot of ambiguity that Sinatra was among the, if not the, greatest singers of the 20th century, while the current hook provides something I didn't already know. That said, my view on the matter may be Anglospheric and I think the alt you suggested is definitely worthy of consideration. Also, hosting this for 24 hours on 12DEC is a great idea. If it's okay with you I'll transfer responsibility for the review to you? I'm not using this a QPQ and I'm afraid I'll forget about it otherwise. LavaBaron (talk) 16:37, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
Sure LavaBaron I do think though we could have a more elaborate hook or make a special article snippet summary with some core facts though for a special treat. I'll request and brainstorm ideas on the talk page of DYK.♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:48, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
Comment: First, congratulations with a great job on this article! I agree that more exciting hooks than my first suggestion can easily be found in the article. Just go ahead and propose one or two alternative hooks, and hopefully a reviewer will approve it. The original hook was chosen due to similar considerations that LavaBaron gives above. A fact that probably is not widely known, neutral and without peacock phrases. And of course, it is a good idea to run this on the day of his centenary. Also, don't forget the "On this day" column, where possibly Sinatra could be mentioned on December 12th, as "one of the greatest ...". Oceanh (talk) 20:05, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
Symbol question.svg Unsigned icon added by Yoninah (talk) 13:53, 28 October 2015 (UTC), moved out of nominator's comment by "OceanBot". I made a comment above, but it is not the nominator's role to add question icons, nor should it appear as if the nominator added the icon. The nominator's role is to try to resolve issues raised by other editors. Oceanh (talk) 09:27, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Comment: Spelled out Blofeld's suggested alternative hook (see above). Oceanh (talk) 10:09, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article nominated on same day as it received GA status. New enough, long enough, neutrally written, well referenced, no close paraphrasing seen. I think the ALT1 hook is very good for the lead image spot, as many younger readers may not have even heard of him. ALT1 hook ref verified and cited inline. QPQ done. Image is freely licensed. This is one of the best articles I've ever seen on Wikipedia. Congratulations, Dr. B.! Yoninah (talk) 13:59, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

Thankyou Yoninah, that means a lot coming from somebody as experienced as you. I've proposed Dec 12th 2015 as Frank Sinatra Day for DYK, see Wikipedia talk:Did you know, anybody can offer their support for it. I'm pleasantly surprised to already see some further articles proposed here from others which can go towards it.♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:58, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Riobamba (nightclub)

Created by SusunW (talk) and Yoninah (talk). Nominated by Yoninah (talk) at 16:01, 10 November 2015 (UTC).

Symbol question.svg Nice article on a Sinatra topic on good sources, extra praise for collaboration in merging and ano-fuss-infobox! I confess that I find the hooks too complex. If it's about Sinatra it could be simply:
Frank Sinatra, c. 1943
Frank Sinatra, c. 1943
ALT2: ... Frank Sinatra made his night-club debut at the Riobamba?
I would also be interested in the song of the same name by Bernstein, and in the trembling lips which brought the house down. Suggestions? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:28, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
  • ALT3: ... that at his solo nightclub debut at the Riobamba, Frank Sinatra (pictured) sang two songs "with trembling lips" and brought the house down? Yoninah (talk) 21:45, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg Like that, let's try, pictured? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:19, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
  • I would prefer to have him young the first 12 hours, older the second, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:32, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

That's Life (song)

5x expanded by Miyagawa (talk). Self-nominated at 19:57, 3 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg 5x expansion verified. New enough, long enough, neutrally written, well referenced, no close paraphrasing seen. Catchy hook! Offline hook ref AGF and cited inline. QPQ done. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 21:45, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

Summer Wind

  • Reviewed: Laetiporus cremeiporus
  • Comment: Article expanded from 506 characters to 2630. To be saved for December 12th.

5x expanded by Miyagawa (talk). Self-nominated at 12:22, 6 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg · The article is neutral, interesting, appropriately referenced, and size and expansion is fine. Hook is short enough, neutral, interesting, and cited in the article to biography of Johnny Mercer (book). AGF on offline reference. Spot checks did not reveal close paraphrasing. The external link with full lyrics seems to be ok. QPQ done. Oceanh (talk) 01:26, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

Vic Fontaine

5x expanded by Miyagawa (talk). Self-nominated at 16:07, 8 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg 5x expansion verified. New enough, long enough, well referenced, neutrally written, no close paraphrasing seen. QPQ done. The hook is a little awkwardly worded ("went on to become"), and I think there are far more interesting things to pull from the article, such as that the character is a hologram, or that it sings Frank Sinatra-like songs from the 60s (although a cite would have to be added to connect the songs with parodies of Frank Sinatra), etc. Yoninah (talk) 20:44, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
  • I don't think we could keep it real world specific if we started talking about sentient holograms. I've modified the language in the hook slightly. Miyagawa (talk) 20:47, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol voting keep.svg Good point. Your tweak to the hook works; I also added "character". Offline hook ref AGF and cited inline. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 20:55, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

Frank Sinatra Enterprises

5x expanded by Miyagawa (talk). Self-nominated at 12:37, 7 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg 5x expansion verified (you did it with 10 characters to spare!). New enough, long enough, well referenced, neutrally written, no close paraphrasing seen. QPQ done. However, the hooks are rather dry. Since you'd like this to run in the December 12 centenary set, why not describe some of the events of "Sinatra 100"? There are a number of events mentioned in the source that you could also add to the article. Yoninah (talk) 20:53, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
  • OK...but don't you think it would be more hooky if you mentioned a few of the events? Yoninah (talk) 20:58, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
  • I had concerns that mentioning the Sinatra exhibition might come off as advertising seeing as it's touring through February. Miyagawa (talk) 22:07, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg OK, you're right as usual :) ALT3 hook ref verified and cited inline. ALT3 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 22:10, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Just in case the promoter prefers something else, ALT0, ALT1 and ALT2 are also verified and cited inline. Yoninah (talk) 22:15, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

Hollywood Plaza Hotel

Created by Rosiestep (talk) and Yoninah (talk). Nominated by Yoninah (talk) at 15:12, 11 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Interesting article, nice work. Length, date of nom, QPQ, and sourcing are all good. No copyvio found by duplicate detector and AGF for one Hebrew-language book source (all other book sources are in English and accessible online). Good to go. --Al Ameer (talk) 19:14, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
Also, note nominator's special request to reserve article for December 12. --Al Ameer (talk) 19:16, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
Thank you. I'll move it to the special occasions holding area now that it's approved. Yoninah (talk) 20:29, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Julie Budd

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk) and Yoninah (talk). Nominated by Yoninah (talk) at 22:37, 12 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg Article is interesting, new enough, long enough and appropriately cited. Hook fact is neutral, short enough, mentioned in the article and cited to reliable source. AGF for newspaper reference with online archive behind paywall. Spot checks did not reveal close paraphrasing. QPQ done. Oceanh (talk) 20:19, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Jim Byron

Created by Miyagawa (talk). Self-nominated at 20:13, 9 November 2015 (UTC).

LOL, I can just imagine if we had a double hook on this and Maxine Cheshire whom Sinatra called a $2 c**t! Might not go down too well with some!♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:57, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
I think that using the c-word would certainly make some people freak out in the main talk page, so probably not worth it! Miyagawa (talk) 23:13, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
Yes, Frank Sinatra Day would rapidly become "No Misogyny on Wikipedia" day wouldn't it!♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:07, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg New enough, long enough, well referenced, neutrally written, no close paraphrasing seen. I think the first hook is very hooky and is preferable over ALT1. Hook fact verified and cited inline. QPQ done. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 23:44, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

Maxine Cheshire

  • Reviewed: Gloria Lim
  • Comment: For December 12 (Frank Sinatra). There is an obvious hook in the article, but frankly I don't want to use that particular slur on the main page.

Created by Miyagawa (talk). Self-nominated at 13:10, 11 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article is long enough and posted by due date. Hook is interesting, cited and verified. No copy vio noted. Text is neutral. QPQ done. Good to go.Nvvchar. 02:26, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Jack Entratter

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk) and Rosiestep (talk). Nominated by Rosiestep (talk) at 02:48, 11 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Created on Nov. 9, nom on Nov 11/new enough. 3352 char/long enough. In-line citations throughout save one marked section, "but they divorced before his death.[citation needed]". No apparent copyvios. Hook is 183 char/under maximum and is hooky. Cited immediately following claim. No image. QPQ done. If you will fix the one cite or remove the claim is GTG.SusunW (talk) 16:35, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
  • @SusunW: thanks for the review. I've removed the uncited claim. --Rosiestep (talk) 03:55, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
Actually at the time, the renovation to the Copa Room, larger stage, greater capacity, hadn't been yet done, I think it was expanded primarily for Sinatra but in early 1966 they'd not yet done it.♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:37, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg I can confirm that ALT1 is acceptable and sourced immediately following. Also 160 char/under maximum length. Based on Dr. B's comment striking Alt2. Restoring tick. Thanks for all of your help on these Yoninah! SusunW (talk) 17:44, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Hank Sanicola

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), SusunW (talk), and Yoninah (talk). Nominated by Yoninah (talk) at 22:04, 14 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg Date, length, references, and neutrality are fine. I couldn't see any close paraphrasing from the sources I'm able to access. Hook is interesting and the two components (former boxer, Sinatra's song plugger) are cited inline. Using the AGF symbol here since I couldn't access one source to verify that he was a boxer. QPQ done. Good to go for 12 December – nice work, all. 97198 (talk) 13:53, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

363 Copa De Oro Road

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Rosiestep (talk) at 02:40, 14 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg I'd go with Alt1 for the Sinatra date due to the connection. At present it is new enough, meets size requirements and is fully cited. The hook is directly cited - it just needs a QPQ. Once that's done, give me a ping and I'll come back and sign this off. Miyagawa (talk) 22:22, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
Yes, though Sinatra literally says "evenings of fun at his home in Beverly Hills" I think.♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:55, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
But after that he describes the "evenings of fun", which entailed drinking till the wee hours. Yoninah (talk) 18:19, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
Yeah in thinking it's "When you go to his home in Beverly Hills for an evening's fun", and then something like "real steadfast, there's no drinking after dinner. Of course you don't eat until 3:30am by which time you're lying flat on your back" or something like that anyway.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:39, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Great, in that case good to go. Miyagawa (talk) 17:46, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Oh! What it Seemed to Be

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk) and 78.26 (talk). Nominated by 78.26 (talk) at 03:50, 13 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg Interesting song article, new and long enough, and appropriately referenced. Hook is short enough, neutral, cited in the article; AGF on book reference. Spot checks did not reveal close paraphrasing. QPQ done. Oceanh (talk) 19:14, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Frank Sinatra and Jewish causes

Created by Yoninah (talk). Self-nominated at 21:41, 19 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Very interesting article. Date, creation, referencing, and verifiability for both hooks all check out. Article follows wikipedia's policies. QPQ is good too.4meter4 (talk) 03:40, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Gus Levene

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk) and Rosiestep (talk). Nominated by Yoninah (talk) at 00:05, 13 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Comment: you might want to say "as sung by Frank Sinatra and backed by Gus Levene and his orchestra", so that people like me don't immediately jump up and down saying "nuh-uh, Judy Garland sang that in Meet Me in St. Louis in 1943". The hook should pertain to the arrangement and arranger, not the song itself. Vesuvius Dogg (talk) 00:44, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Full review needed. Yoninah (talk) 22:46, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

  • Symbol confirmed.svg New enough, long enough, no apparent NPOV issues or formatting/stylistic problems. Hook (at 179 characters) is under limit, and properly supported by citation to the new Spencer Leigh biography of Sinatra, the text of which is unavailable as yet online. I believe nominator Yoninah has satisfied the QPQ requirement many times over even if no specific review is cited in this particular case (I almost feel bad bringing it up). This article has interesting content well beyond the hook, while adding excellent color and context to the Sinatra anniversary, particularly for readers who are fascinated with Sinatra's working methods. Good to go. Vesuvius Dogg (talk) 03:59, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
  • @Vesuvius Dogg: thanks for the glowing review! My QPQ is listed above under "Reviewed"; it was a double hook nomination, so I used one of the hooks toward this review. Best, Yoninah (talk) 09:59, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
  • My blind spot, now I see it. Sorry about that! GTG. Vesuvius Dogg (talk) 14:25, 22 November 2015 (UTC)