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Clarification on subtopics

Sorry for the somewhat lengthy post, but there's a bit of background to cover before I can ask my questions.

I'm hitting the home stretch of a decade-long project that will end up with 212 or so articles related to the Michigan State Trunkline Highway System at FA. FL or GA level. As that would be a bit unwieldy to nominate as a mega-GT, I think it would be best to divide that into some subtopics. Because the highways in the state are numbered as part of one of three schemes, that lends itself nicely to subdivision by designation type. As of this moment, there are 4-5 articles left to send to GAN and 2 lists left to send to FLC. There are already 24 FAs and 2 FLs and 180 GAs.

Using the designation type as a basis for division, we'd end up with one topic on the Interstates, one on the US Highways, and one on the other state highways (M-#). These would have their appropriate lists as the lead article, and the those lists, plus Pure Michigan Byway would be the entries in a topic with the system article as the lead. So far, so good. The kicker is that we have two FTs, one on I-96 and one of M-28. So once taken to the end, we'd have a topic on the system, with 3 subtopics on the types of highways in that system, 2 of which also have subtopics based around individual "parent" highways. At the moment, we'd end up with a topic composed of subtopics with another level of subtopics, but I think I've only seen two levels so far, not three.

I nominated the Interstates topic last night. It's currently a GTC (4/13), but if the rest of I-96's related articles were included, it would be an FTC (9/18) because all but one of the I-96 topic's articles are FAs. How do the regulars here want to handle these topics? The US Highways topic only needs its list and a few GANs promoted to ready for nomination, and the M list is the only thing holding up a GTC of the state highways topic. Based on my experience and expectations for editing time, the rest of the nominations should be ready yet this year. Imzadi 1979 → 02:49, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

• Not sure what exactly is your worry, but the overview topic should include 3 subtopics + probably the Mich DoT. It doesn't really matter how many levels are there in the tree, a long as each topic and subtopic makes sense on its own. However, merging stuff like interstate with I-96 would require all the other equivalent branches of the other I-xxx in the sub-overview of the interstate topic. Nergaal (talk) 20:01, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
  • @Nergaal: the nominated topic on the state's Interstate Highways already lists every highway except those in the I-96 topic. I-96 and the link to the topic are standing in for all of them, as I understand is the appropriate procedure. So the equivalents are already there in the nomination. Imzadi 1979 → 10:39, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

Nominating a delisted topic

I am unfamiliar with the FT or GT process, but Wikipedia:Featured topics/Halo media was previously demoted from GT because Halo 4, Halo 4 Original Soundtrack and Halo 4: Forward Unto Dawn were not GAs at that time. This concern has been addressed and this topic should now meet the GT criteria. Can anyone please help me with this? I am posting here because I am not a main contributor to articles in this topic and because I am not confident with completing the nomination process correctly. sovereign°sentinel (contribs) 09:27, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

I've contributed a bunch to Halo articles in the past, and helped get Halo 4 up to GA earlier this year. But I think this topic still fails unfortunately. I've just added a bunch of missing articles to the topic page. As you can see, there are still six articles requiring promotion to GA status, and some of them are quite a bit off the mark from that currently. --The1337gamer (talk) 09:47, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation. sovereign°sentinel (contribs) 13:43, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

My 2 cents: I think Halo: The Cole Protocol seems to also warrant an article. Nergaal (talk) 20:35, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

FT articles to be considered

I am planning to take Satyajit Ray who was an Indian filmmaker for FT where his article is FA and has got 2 FLs (filmography and awards). One of his directed film Pather Panchali is also an FA. Can his films be included under FT? Please explain. - Vivvt (Talk) 08:30, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Think of it like a pyramid- the top level is Satyajit Ray. The next level down is filmography and awards (of Ray)- the articles/lists directly having to do with Ray. A third level would be the articles/lists having to do with the second-level articles and lists- so, the movies that make up his filmography, and anything (there's probably nothing) related to his awards. You can make a topic that's just the top two levels- that's three articles, so it's big enough to count. You can also make a topic that's the top three levels (or just the filmography and the level below that, if you wanted)- but if you do so, you'd have to include every film with an article that's part of his filmography. Up to you if you want to do that. --PresN 13:15, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Literary creations of Satyajit Ray

My question was mainly related to his films. Do we have to bring in all the movies at the same time or one my one? Also, only one of his 39 films is FA and rest are not even GA. - Vivvt (Talk) 15:29, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

It would have to be all the films or none of the films- you don't get to pick just the ones that are convenient. If you don't want to wait until you get 38 GAs (and no one would blame you for that!), then the topic wouldn't include any of the film articles themselves, just the list of them all. That said... now that I actually look at his article, the three-article topic as proposed wouldn't work either. You described him as "an Indian filmmaker", and he certainly was foremost that... but I'd be uncomfortable supporting a topic nomination titled "Satyajit Ray" that included nothing about the books/stories he wrote- given that there's 3 nonfiction book articles, 4 character articles, and a article about his written works (semi-focused more on the characters rather than the works themselves?), it's clear that his written works were a major part of his life, even if not the biggest part, so I'd want to see a "Satyajit Ray bibliography" list as a part of the topic as well- perhaps the "Literary creations of Satyajit Ray" article could be turned into one? --PresN 23:42, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for the excellent explanation. I think its a long way to go for FT. - Vivvt (Talk) 04:21, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

A query

Leonardo DiCaprio is a good article, and his filmography and accolades are featured lists. However, DiCaprio owns a production company, Appian Way Productions, which does not have an article of its own as it's produced a few films, and it would be too soon to create an article about that. I want to ask if it is okay to exclude that from the topic. -- Frankie _talk 14:19, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

The feature topic criteria only apply to articles that currently exist, so it's okay to exclude it for now.--十八 20:04, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

User indef blocked after !voting

Hi, DoDung2001 !voted at Wikipedia:Featured topic candidates/York City F.C./addition2, but was indef blocked shortly after. Is this !vote still valid? Mattythewhite (talk) 10:26, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

Is there a reason as to why he was blocked? GamerPro64 14:07, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

For edit warring using a sockpuppet. Mattythewhite (talk) 14:10, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

I think that's enough reason to strike his vote. Thank you for bringing this up. GamerPro64 14:21, 20 August 2015 (UTC)