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Welcome to the Education Program Incidents page. This page is for reporting and discussing specific incidents related to student editing and/or the Education Program on the English Wikipedia that require the intervention of experienced editors and/or administrators. Topics may include: Content issues created by real or potential student assignments Unresponsive classrooms or those editing with poorly managed or structured courses Classrooms editing without a course page or with an ambiguous page And any other issue that might relate to student assignments Of course, we should remain civil towards all participants and assume good faith.			Before posting a grievance about a user here, please discuss the issue with them on their user talk page. You should generally notify any user who is the subject of a discussion. You may use {{ping}} to do so, or simply link their username when you post your comment. It is not required to contact students when their edits are only being discussed in the context of a class-wide problem. Please include diffs to help us find the problem you are reporting. Please sign all contributions, using four tilde characters "~~~~". Threads are automatically archived after 7 days of inactivity. Where possible and relevant, please include the following information with any report: Article(s), Course, Instructor, Online volunteers, and Student.
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Possible Indonesian course - "TELL", perhaps at "UNEJ"?

This poor stub (now improved slightly and tagged) was produced by an editor whose user page says "For TELL Assignment". UNEJ appears to be a university in Indonesia (though you wouldn't know it from the stub as written). Presumably if one student is writing a Wikipedia page as an assignment they won't be alone. PamD 12:59, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

The user's first edits were to copy/paste some copyvio material to his/her userpage about MotoGP, then tag it as for the TELL assignment, then replace that with [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Vareza_Juniardi&diff=prev&oldid=687725480 text about Balung Kulon, which like UNEJ is in Jember. It looks like the same user created Balung kulon, which was speedied A1 yesterday (and was not in English according to Wgolf's talk page message).

@PamD: Aside from "assignment" and that the user edited the UNEJ page, I don't see that there's much else to go on here. Thanks for leaving the welcome message on his/her user talk page. Whereas the Wiki Education Foundation oversees education program activities in the US/CA, the Outreach Wiki has a list of other involved countries' activities and contacts. Here's Indonesia, though it doesn't look to have been updated recently. Maybe AKoval (WMF) can suggest a contact? --Ryan (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:05, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

Student copying images and text

At Talk:Association_of_American_Medical_Colleges#Copyright_violation_notice there is talk of a student in Wikipedia:Wiki Ed/College of DuPage/ENGLI1102-088 Academic Writing and the Meaning of Knowledge (Fall 2015) copying images and text. The student says it is okay because it came from the organization's website. Ian (Wiki Ed), do you have this one? Blue Rasberry (talk) 20:53, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

Yes. Thanks for the heads-up. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 21:16, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

I had posted a couple of messages to ProfTAH's talk page when problems could be seen to be emerging. I was under the impression from the documentation that ProfTAH had a supervisory role. Drchriswilliams (talk) 22:21, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

I'm advising the student to stay away for the time being. That student was apparently not aware that an article like this would be off limits in our class, despite multiple warnings. Being said, let me know what I (or the student) can do to amend. ProfTAH (talk) 22:32, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

ProfTAH Sorry to hear of you staying away from this article. The problem was copying content (text and images) from a website then republishing them in violation of copyright. That could have happened at any article.

I would love to see the student contribute constructively to that article - I was watching it because I care about that topic, and not because I was following the student. Going to medical school is a marketplace burden on people with less money to a greater extent than it is to demographics with more money. I have worried for a long time about the lack of information on the Internet about getting into medical school, and how some populations have to worry more about getting this information than other groups. This is a topic worthy of development if the student is interested. Blue Rasberry (talk) 22:43, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

The Association of American Medical Colleges article is certainly one that needs work, so I don't see that it should be seen as off limits. Also I wholeheartedly agree with Blue Raspberry that there is still a lot of work to do around making the medical applications process more transparent thus supporting efforts around widening participation. As far as I can see, the AAMC have been involved in lots of good work around WP. I'm certainly not against this article (or similar ones) being tackled as part of a project like this. I think that a difficulty that an inexperienced editor might face is that some of the descriptive text presented on the organisation's website is already in quite a distilled form. The editor here hadn't managed to get their head around the copyright issues, but I assume that can be remedied. Drchriswilliams (talk) 23:12, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

Possible University course - Russian new religion / pseudoscience

There are a couple of articles Transurfing of Reality and Vadim Zeland which are receiving some attention and one ofthe editors has said "Also, I am doing this as part of our University Wikipedia project, please don't delete it or merge it now, can you at least for now undo this tag for deletion, until I have finished editing the Article." Just mentioning it here as a heads-up. I'll leave a note on the student's talk page. PamD 10:10, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

We're trying to discern the source of that course, PamD. If it's in the USA/Canada we can help, otherwise best to ping User:AKoval (WMF) if further assistance is needed. If you get a follow-up, let us know. Thanks for the heads up! Eryk (Wiki Ed) (talk) 00:28, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Australian high school Women in Wikipedia project

There's apparently a project encouraging New South Wales high school students to create articles about women, supported by ABC. See a teacher's comment here while opposing a CSD nomination: "Two Year 9 students wrote the article and as their teacher supervising them, I had to publish it yesterday as it was due to the Project organiser." etc. I've offered advice on her talk page. PamD 00:16, 17 November 2015 (UTC)