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Should we not mention her monogram "VR" (Victoria Regina) somewhere? For example under "Titles, styles, and arms". 79.228.229.104 (talk) 17:42, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
No. It will happen in a day or so. But not yet. -- Jack of Oz[pleasantries] 10:51, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
Will happen on Wednesday at around 5.30pm .86.3.238.222 (talk) 10:48, 7 September 2015 (UTC)Random86.3.238.222 (talk) 10:48, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
According to the Elizabeth II article, she (Queen Elizabeth) will break the record at 5:30 PM London local time on September 9, 2015 at which time both articles should be updated accordingly with reliable sources to reflect the changes, however neither article should be updated prematurely.--TommyBoy (talk) 22:41, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
It's been updated, but currently says "...until being surpassed by that of Elizabeth II in November 2015." This should be September, obviously, but I can't edit it due to the semi-protection status of the article. 96.255.96.137 (talk) 00:12, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
It can just be cut now. The lead is for summarizing the main points of Victoria's life as found in published biographies. If the event is not mentioned by any biography, then it is unlikely to be notableimportant enough for the article. Events that occurred more than 100 years after her death are certainly not sufficiently relevant for the lead. DrKiernan (talk) 11:57, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
I agree it need not be in the lead, but otherwise this argument is wrong. Note that WP:NOTABILITY is not about the content of articles, & it is confusing to invoke the word for that. Johnbod (talk) 12:08, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
I was using the word in its non-wikipedia sense. Amended. DrKiernan (talk) 12:26, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
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Elizabeth II is now the longest-reigning monarch in the United Kingdom, yet it says Victoria still the longest-reigning monarch. It should be changed to make more sense. Thanks!
It does make clear that the event was in 1896, and the past tense is used. Please propose a change to that sentence that addresses your concern. DrKiernan (talk) 17:31, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
Done another editor has changed it to say "which was longer than that of any previous British monarch" which is correct - Arjayay (talk) 17:35, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
Since Elizabeth II's page puts her reign in context to Victoria's, shouldn't the same be true here? Shouldn't it say "which is longer than that of any previous British monarch and is second only to Elizabeth II"? Surely in years to come it can be updated if some future monarch's reign is longer than Elizabeth II's, but that'll surely be a long time from now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.23.197.150 (talk) 22:38, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
I have attempted a compromise wording (see [1]); hopefully this will be an end to the silly edit war which has been going on. --RFBailey (talk) 23:03, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
RFBailey I am happy with your wording. If we are going to mention how long her reign has been in relation to others then I believe we need a sentence that will avoid potential confusion and misunderstanding, mentioning her length of reign is only surpassed by Elizabeth would help inform readers better. Doomsday28 (talk) 10:43, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
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Done another editor has changed it to say "which was longer than that of any previous British monarch" which is correct - Arjayay (talk) 17:35, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
Done another editor has changed it to say "which was longer than that of any previous British monarch" which is correct - 
