Talk:Bloc Québécois

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First paragraph -- invert the 2 principles?[edit]

"...devoted to the protection of Quebec's interests in the House of Commons of Canada, and the promotion of Quebec sovereignty..."

Personally, I think it should read: "...devoted to the promotion of Quebec sovereignty, and the protection of Quebec's interests in the House of Commons of Canada..."

Pursuit of Quebec sovereignty is first and foremost in the party's platform. Lucien Bouchard made that clear in the early days of the Bloc's formation.

Thus, it should be mentioned as the first phrase, in that opening sentence.

--Atikokan (talk) 16:00, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Gilles Duceppe[edit]

What is Duceppe's status? Is he still president & leader of the BQ? GoodDay (talk) 22:56, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

I thought he resigned on election night and I haven't found anything online that says anything different. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vale of Glamorgan (talk • contribs) 16:59, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Party leader versus party president versus parliamentary leader[edit]

Louis Plamondon is not now, nor has he ever been, the leader of the Bloc Quebecois, interim or otherwise. In fact, it doesn't seem as though the party has a leader at present.

Gilles Duceppe was both leader and president of the BQ before the 2011 election (thank you, Internet Archive). Vivian Barbot was chosen as the party's interim president after Duceppe's resignation, and she is still interim president as of this writing (source: the party's website).

Plamondon was chosen as the BQ's interim parliamentary leader on 2 June 2011. This is a parliamentary, and not a party, position. It more-or-less corresponds to the former position of House Leader, which no longer formally exists for the BQ as they are no longer an official parliamentary group. This article, clarifying Plamondon's title, does not indicate that he was chosen as party leader. This article, published in 2010, indicates that BQ House Leader Pierre Paquette had the same official title (in French) that Plamondon holds now.

The BQ website does not indicate that the party has a leader, interim or otherwise, at present. The only logical conclusion is that the position is vacant. In the absence of a formal leader, Barbot is the senior party official.

A few published articles since the 2011 election have described Plamondon as the BQ leader. This is due to confusion over the titles. CJCurrie (talk) 00:34, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Date format[edit]

Hi. Is there a reason why British date formats (e.g. 11 June 1991) are used instead of standard North American English format (June 11, 1991) ? The latter is used for articles about Quebec, Canada, Montreal, Quebec City, PQ, etc. I think that we should use Canadian English by default as it is spoken by Quebec anglophones. Cmoibenlepro (talk) 13:37, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

According to WP:STRONGNAT Canada may use either, and since the BQ prefer the French language, dmy is appropriate for the topic. 117Avenue (talk) 02:53, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
OK, but I do not understand the relation between the date formatting in French and this article, which is in English. In Montreal, MDY format is used, for example this article from The Gazette. In my opinion, DMY looks just wrong, but perhaps this format is fine outside Quebec. Cmoibenlepro (talk) 03:11, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

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Quebec Bloc?[edit]

I've lived in Canada for a long time and have never heard anyone refer to the Bloc Quebecois as the "Quebec Bloc". I'm wondering if we should delete this odd translation, which appears directly after the prononciation in the article. A CBC news article | here, published a week ago, refers to them as the "Bloc Quebecois"... Just like the rest of us Anglos do. — Preceding unsigned comment added by New Media Theorist (talk • contribs) 05:10, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

It's listed as an alternative name in Britannica [1] for what it's worth. That being said, I've only heard it referred to by the French name or the "Bloc" in English Canada.---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 17:03, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
I think that was placed there as a misguided attempt at clarifying the meaning of the phrase "Bloc Québécois" (as if there were five people in the world who wouldn't get it on their own), rather than a suggestion that anybody actually uses that as a proper name for the party. I agree that it shouldn't be there; our WP:UE rule does not require us to invent translated English names for things that don't have English names in real-world usage, but requires us only to reflect the usage that actually exists in English sources — and for this party, standard English usage is the untranslated "Bloc Québécois" rather than any anglicized alternative. (Several years ago a non-Canadian editor did try to move it to the original research alternative "Quebecer Bloc", citing UE for it, but they got reverted almost instantly — and what they were actually doing was an "other stuff exists" rampage against the pagemoves of several Italian political parties which do have anglicized names in English sources, so it was just pointless disruption rather than a dispute of any real substance.) Bearcat (talk) 17:37, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
OK then I will be bold and take it out. For what it's worth, the same thing is mentioned about a third of the way down this incredibly long talk page (time for archiving?) New Media Theorist (talk) 17:46, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

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