Wikipedia:Featured list removal candidates

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Removing Featured lists in Wikipedia This page is for the review and improvement of Wikipedia:Featured lists that may no longer meet the Featured list criteria. FLs should be kept at current standards regardless of when it was promoted. Any objections raised in the review must be actionable. The FLC director, Giants2008, or his delegates NapHit, Crisco 1492 and SchroCat—determine the exact timing of the process for each nomination. Nominations will last at least 14 days, and longer where changes are ongoing and it seems useful to continue the process. For a nomination to be kept, consensus must be reached that it still meets the criteria. Consensus is built among reviewers and nominators; the delegates determine whether there is consensus. A nomination will be removed from the list, archived and added to Former featured lists if, in the judgment of the director who considers a nomination and its reviews: actionable objections have not been resolved; or consensus to keep has not been reached; or insufficient information has been provided by reviewers to judge whether the criteria have been met Nominations may be closed earlier than the allotted two weeks if, in the judgment of the FLRC delegate, the list in the nomination: has a clear consensus to merge or redirect to another article or list. This consensus may be shown in Articles for deletion, a discussion on the article's talk page, a discussion on the relevant WikiProject(s), or other community venues that present a tangible consensus to merge or redirect the article; or contains a clear copyright violation and removal of the copyrighted material would severely degrade the quality of the list. Do not nominate lists that have recently been promoted (such complaints should have been brought up during the candidacy period on Wikipedia:Featured list candidates), or lists that have recently survived a removal attempt – such nominations are likely to be removed summarily. GimmeBot will update the list talk page after the list has been kept or the nomination archived; the delay in bot processing can range from minutes to several days, and the {{FLRC}} template should remain on the talk page until the bot updates {{ArticleHistory}}. If a nomination is delisted, editors should take adequate time to work on resolving issues before re-nominating at Featured list candidates. Nominations will be removed on Tuesdays and Saturdays, just before User:GimmeBot's scheduled run at 00:00 UTC Wednesday and Sunday mornings.  – Table of Contents – Closing instructions	Featured content: Featured articles Featured lists ← Featured pictures Featured sounds Featured portals Featured topics Featured list tools: Featured list criteria Featured list candidates Featured list removal candidates Today's featured list This month's queue Main page requests TFL statistics Featured lists yet to appear as TFL Featured list log Former featured lists Removal candidates log Toolbox FL Cleanup listing FL Cleanup task force Article statistics
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Nominations urgently needing reviews

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The following lists were nominated for removal more than 14 days ago and have had their review time extended because objections are still being addressed, the nomination has not received enough reviews, or insufficient information has been provided by reviewers to judge whether the criteria have been met. If you have not yet reviewed them, please take the time to do so:

Lists nominated for removal

Arnold Schwarzenegger filmography

Notified: Nehrams2020, WikiProject Film, WikiProject Lists, WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers

I am nominating this for featured list removal because it is not well-referenced enough to meet today's FL standards. The vast majority of roles listed here and the accolades are missing sources. Having a total of 12 in-text citations is quite problematic given how many films are mentioned. I'm also not sure if it's really necessary to include color coding for lead roles or have prose bits within the "Television appearances" section. Snuggums (talk / edits) 03:23, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

• I really don't think this could be a problem, as the General General has all movies covered.--Jarodalien (talk) 07:51, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

• Merely placing a collection of links in "General" isn't exactly enough; all accolades and roles need to have in-text citations. Snuggums (talk / edits) 13:45, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

• At most case, I would agree that "Merely placing a collection of links" isn't exactly enough, but in this particular case, is seens unnessasery to add a <ref name=xxx />to every role and every movie, a recent example is 2014 Winter Olympics medal table, is pointless to add a citation to every NOCs, as they were all come from a same source, so list at "general". And I also feel this filmography case have more excuse, as those kind of infomation that people could simply watch the movie to find out, and this is the reason we don't need a citation for plot section in film articles (except lost films). I agree that this list could done some work like updating the lede, add citation for accolades (who add this anyway, when there's already a List of awards and nominations received by Arnold Schwarzenegger), but I don't feel the name of those movies, tv show, or roles needs this.--Jarodalien (talk) 16:31, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

• It most certainly is NOT "pointless" to cite individual roles per today's FL standards whether using one or multiple different sources for listings. The criteria has become more demanding throughout time even if this was enough for 2009's standards. "Simply watch the movie" is also not good enough, especially for uncredited roles. How well sourced other articles are is irrelevant to this page per WP:WAX, and that isn't a comparable example since it isn't even a filmography. Snuggums (talk / edits) 18:25, 23 October 2015 (UTC)