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Yerzhan Ashikbayev[edit]

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Foreign Ministers are presumed notable. Not so for Deputy Fooreign Ministers, such as this individual. DGG ( talk ) 04:12, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

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Delete. Agreed, fails WP:POLITICIAN as written for now. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:38, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
Keep, deputy (national) ministers fulfills WP:NPOL by far. --Soman (talk) 18:26, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

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Keep. Of course deputy ministers are notable. Good grief! Just plain common sense. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:43, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

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Hua Hin Tennis Exhibition[edit]

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Wikipedia Tennis Project has long established that exhibitions are usually not notable. The burden of proof lays in this particular exhibition event to show it's massively different than all the rest. Fyunck(click) (talk) 01:59, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Delete. Nice to see a sport wikiproject deciding that something in it's area is not notable. We need more of such minor events pruned from numerous fields. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:12, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

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Horx[edit]

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poorly written self-promotional COI article (cross reference main contributor's name and subject's name). There are two articles in existence - one under subject's real name (which looked like this https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nick_Halkes&oldid=680569551 until I wikified it) (previous attempt resisted by SPA ip editor), and another under Horx. Too much crossover, too similar a subject - can be condensed into one article under subject's real name Rayman60 (talk) 01:07, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

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Todd Hessert[edit]

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Fails WP:BIO. No evidence of notability found in reliable sources. APK whisper in my ear 08:32, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Delete I can't find any sources either. WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 20:52, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

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Airtel Super Star Awards[edit]

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Non-notable award function article with no claims of notability or any importance given by secondary -tertiary sources. Also seems to have been given only once in 2011 as majority of Google hits turn out to be of 2011 itself. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 08:53, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

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Alts:

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And searches through WP:INDAFD: "Airtel Super Star Awards" "Star India Awards" "Super Star Awards" "Airtel Awards"

Comment I looking beyond Google we actually can find coverage in years other than just 2011. Schmidt, ^{Michael Q.} 19:18, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Please share when you find that they meet our WP:RS and other criteria. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 09:00, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Delete- No reliable sources indicate coverage other than 2011.Kavdiamanju (talk) 16:25, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

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2014 WTA Finals – Rising Stars Invitational[edit]

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To nominate, to sure whether this article is keep or not, make consensus. 333 -blue 11:23, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Delete this - Wikipedia Tennis Project has long established that exhibitions are usually not notable. The burden of proof lays in this particular exhibition event to show it's massively different than all the rest. It's one thing to be shown on the main page, but it's own article?.... not a chance. This was prod'd and was due to be deleted today, but it was deprod'd with no explanation. Fyunck(click) (talk) 01:55, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

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Clocks (band)[edit]

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Going to take this to AfD to settle the contested notability issue. And frankly, this defunct band sits right on the borderline. The band is mentioned in multiple sources independent of the band itself, seemingly satisfying the first guideline of WP:NMUSIC. However, it fails every other aspect of WP:NMUSIC and although an album was recorded on an independent label, it was never released. While technically it would pass WP:NMUSIC due to satisfying criterion #1 of that guideline, I really don't think this band every truly became notable. Therefore, I will go with a weak delete. Safiel (talk) 02:47, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Keep - as far as I can infer from the article, it satisfies #1 and #2 of WP:NMUSIC, having a single released. LjL (talk) 02:55, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Comment I would note that the single that was released was on a minor, non notable, label. It does not appear they ever released anything on the notable label that they were signed to. Safiel (talk) 03:37, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Discogs.com lists two singles on Island Records, these can also be found on Amazon and in reviews including Gigwise review of "All I Can" and Manchester Evening News review of "Old Valve Radio". Nothing on Officialcharts.com, so they did not reach top 75 of UK Singles chart; the band probably meets criterion 1 but not criterion 2. Peter James (talk) 21:29, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

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Delete - Searches found nothing to suggest better at this time. Notifying PRODer Karst and only still active AfD commenter The Rambling Man. SwisterTwister talk 06:34, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
Delete - Unfortunate story really where the whole thing appears to have collapsed during the credit crunch. In the end, three singles and a handful of a support-slots does not add up to much. I landed on the page yesterday as it was listed as having reference errors. The majority of links are dead. I was able to retrieve the article from a local newspaper, but that did not really add to the notability. The links to the producer website are just that, him talking about his work with the occasional mention of the band as they obviously had been booked in. Perhaps it can be partly moved to the List of former Island Records artists. Karst (talk) 11:06, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
Keep meets WP:GNG and WP:BAND criterion 1. Some references added at the time of the first AFD were removed because they had been put into a "trivia" section when they could have been integrated into the article. Peter James (talk) 21:34, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

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Ronald Jerothe[edit]

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The subject fails WP:N. A google search turns up zero coverage from reliable sources. The only reference cited by the article is a dead web page. This person was a not-very-important member of Organized crime in the United States, and doesn't warrant a Wikipedia article. Tapered (talk) 02:06, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

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Comment. Received a contested PROD in August 2008. I seem to recall a bunch of articles about minor mob players like this went up a few years ago (e.g. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/William Devino, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Angelo Sepe (2nd nomination), Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Guido Penosi). It appears to fail WP:PERP but I'm interested to see what others find. - Location (talk) 18:03, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
Redirect to John Gotti section of Gambino crime family. He's real: [1] but apparently minor.E.M.Gregory (talk) 22:47, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Comment Good idea. Never a doubt he was real. Tapered (talk) 06:20, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

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List of beagle, harrier and basset packs of the United Kingdom[edit]

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List of non-notable subjects. The general concept of pack hunting is obviously notable, but listing the individual packs is not necessary or essential in understanding or explaining that concept. Fram (talk) 07:54, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Keep These are quite historic institutions and just need work. I have made a start and have little difficulty finding sources as hunting was a popular sport in its day. Andrew D. (talk) 18:44, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
- You mean that one primary source and one unlinked newspaper article with unknown contents and unclear title you added? Fram (talk) 20:15, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
  - There's a lot more than that out there and so it takes time to produces pages about the topic as there are so many interesting scents to follow. Anyway, for a source which demonstrates quite clearly that the topic passes WP:LISTN, please see Bryden's Hare-hunting and Harriers. This is a book of hundreds of pages including Appendix D which is a list of beagle packs. Q.E.D. Andrew D. (talk) 23:32, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

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Keep As per WP:ATD editing to improve the page is preferable to deletion and efforts are being made to do just that. Better to welcome and encourage improvements than to reject them for not yet being sufficient. Markpackuk (talk) 14:07, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
Delete. Improperly named article, non notable subject. No refs. Borderline hoax. Szzuk (talk) 08:00, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

There doesn't seem to be anything wrong with the name. The topic is notable (demonstrated above). The page has refs. It's obviously not a hoax. None of the points made in this !vote seem accurate. To further confirm this, I have just added a reference for the first entry in the list; it was easy. Andrew D. (talk) 08:17, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

The article is garbage. I'm not arguing over its merits. Szzuk (talk) 08:59, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Szzuk's position is WP:RUBBISH and so should be discounted. Andrew D. (talk) 18:53, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Label and dismiss is an attempt to discredit valid points, none of which were refuted. Tapered (talk) 23:54, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Delete A simple run through of the possible references in the various links provided shows ZERO reliable sources. No reliable sources are cited in the article itself. No justification for its continued presence. Tapered (talk) 23:39, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Comments A search of The Independent website (for the only possible reliable source cited) using the title and date didn't produce a match. On another note, the sister page to this, List of foxhound packs of the United Kingdom, is also a strong candidate for the axe. Tapered (talk) 23:54, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

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K. Hari Prasad[edit]

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does not meet notability, references sited are self published or from blogs, even news seems to mention name as pass by and no stress on notability, also a work of PR Shrikanthv (talk)

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Nickelodeon Kids' Choice Awards India[edit]

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Non-notable award function article with no claims of notability or any importance given by secondary -tertiary sources. Also seems to have been given only once in 2013 from majority of Google hits results. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 09:08, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

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Beacon Villages[edit]

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Either delete or convert to disambiguation page. The article is almost a dictionary definition of the word. Note on the use of the term can be merged to the four village articles. Jolly Ω Janner 09:24, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

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This is mentioned in South Devon & Dartmoor (Slow Travel) and websites for the villages but doesn't need a separate article. Disambiguate between Cosdon Beacon and Ivinghoe Beacon (where the villages are Pitstone, Marsworth, Ivinghoe and Cheddington). Peter James (talk) 22:52, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

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weak keep name is in local use for local authorities that cover all 4 villages, by realtors and in tourism promotion.E.M.Gregory (talk) 22:47, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

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Show of Hands (application)[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG with no secondary sources, just its own website, Tumblr and YouTube video. McGeddon (talk) 10:16, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

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Delete for now - Nothing better. SwisterTwister talk 20:58, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
Comment - there is significant coverage on this in a number of app review sites including apppicker.com, appleappinsight.com, and appszoom.com. Whether these sources meet the standard of WP:RS is an open question.Dialectric (talk) 00:37, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

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2015 WTA Finals – Rising Stars Invitational[edit]

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To nominate, to sure whether this article is keep or not, make consensus. 333 -blue 11:22, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Delete this - Wikipedia Tennis Project has long established that exhibitions are usually not notable. The burden of proof lays in this particular exhibition event to show it's massively different than all the rest. It's one thing to be shown on the main page, but it's own article?.... not a chance. This was prod'd and was due to be deleted today, but it was deprod'd with no explanation. Fyunck(click) (talk) 02:01, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Keep – there exist IRS about contest (eg. [2], [3], osaka + RSI), so the notabilty is suitable for a stand-alone article; En Wiki has category for exhibitions > this article is no exception.--Kacir 21:44, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

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Oleg Vyshniakov[edit]

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Not-notable. Honorary council of a secondary city is not notable in its own right. The references are all about the office rather than the individual and are essentially from a single source. This seems nothing more than an advert with no indication of importance. Peter Rehse (talk) 11:35, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Keep - first, he's a prominent businessman;[4] It may seem trivial as a "secondary city", but it's significant to Jews of Western Ukraine that Israel opened a second consulate in Lviv, considering the political situation and humanitarian aid Israel provides. Persistent coverage - [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], [10], [11]. —Мандичка^YO 😜 20:47, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

The first reference really does not address his prominence and the others are about his appointment. Again the whole article is not about him but Israel–Ukraine relations for which an article exists. Most of the references and extenal links in the article are not even about the honorary council post which again is not that special. Your justification could easily be addressed by expanding the relations article and I suppose you could mention the name of the honorary councils there.Peter Rehse (talk) 10:20, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

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Punggol North MRT Station[edit]

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Pure spectulation. LTA did not announce any station name other than the location (which is Punggol North). Location does not equal to station name. See also WP:CBALL, WP:RS and WP:OR. Converted a contested Prod that has been added multiple times by dynamic IP, latest 119.74.41.17. -- GB fan 13:33, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

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Merge to North East MRT Line. Right now, this is just speculation, with a single reliable source. Even the location is not confirmed yet. When the station is confirmed, the article could be un-merged. epic genius (talk) 15:39, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Not going to vote, but this is my opinion: NS6 Sungei Kadut, NE2 Bukit Permei or Keppel (before the name is used for CCL 6), NS12 Canberra (before being officially announced) are deleted from wikipedia for spectulation. However, this is a tricky one. What we know is LTA announced that this station is located in Punggol North. Even though this is most likely the station name, LTA did not announce anything official.
I also raised my concerns here before, i just quote my point: "Even though the LTA website list it as Punggol North, it is not the station name. it is just to indicate it will serve the punggol north area. If you look at the Jurong Region Line page, they also list the areas. are they station names? They are not. Thus Punggol North is not the station name (yet). even the LTA map of the MRT system does not show punggol north, despite showing others like canberra, thomson east coast line etc."
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Delete There is already a section on it mentioning the extention. There is nothing on this article worth merging into North East MRT Line. Even the article itself uses term like "(NOT YET FINALIZED, NOT CONFIRMED BY LTA)". -68.68.96.83 (talk) 22:38, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

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Neuros Social Network[edit]

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Based on non-reliable sources. Kavdiamanju (talk) 01:19, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

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Maia Sethna[edit]

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Fails WP:ACTOR Kavdiamanju (talk) 01:15, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

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Delete - Not notable at this time and certainly unacceptable current version. SwisterTwister talk 06:20, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

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John P. Matthew[edit]

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Lacks secondary sources, couldn't find a single reliable source. Another page in Category:Indian bloggers which fails WP:GNG. Kavdiamanju (talk) 01:11, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

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Joyce Rupp[edit]

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Another article written in a pretty promotional way for an author/"midwife"(??) of dubious notability. Barely any references apart from some book reviews and stuff linking to Ms. Rupp's personal website. — foxj 00:42, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

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Delete - All Books, News and Highbeam searches found several links but nothing convincingly better of its current version. SwisterTwister talk 08:33, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

This author has sold more than a quarter million books which is quite notable in this market. We can adjust language if Foxj could be more specific about what they find to be "promotional" language. Foxj, is it possible to simply suggest or make edits to these pages rather than suggest their deletion entirely? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Avemarpr (talk • contribs) 21:29, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Keep Appears notable within her field - many mentions in Catholic publications (which are RS for this sort of BLP), [12] HuffPo mention, [13] Toronto Star, etc. Spiritual books are noted at scholar.google.com - so she is not an unknown author for sure. And not enough cash flow to make one upset at this being too promotional - must such authors do ne earn a lot of money this way. Collect (talk) 23:27, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
Keep - Promotional language is never a reason to delete. I hate to keep repeating myself, but AfD is not cleanup. Based on WP:OUTCOMES#Literature, she would be kept, taking into consideration the references shown by Collect above. --CNMall41 (talk) 01:01, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
Keep Sources are out there, [14]. Tag the article for format, sourcing.E.M.Gregory (talk) 22:01, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

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Vikas Kapoor[edit]

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Most of the references in the article are about his company, and most of the references I found myself are in a similar vein. There is no significant coverage to indicate he is anything more than a run-of-the-MILL CEO (especially in a market saturated with cloud-based companies). Primefac (talk) 16:26, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

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Candy Carson[edit]

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No notability on her own - what notability she seems to have is totally tied to her marriage to Ben Carson. Keep in mind, notability is not inherited. Foundation work is only with her husband, books written were co-authored with her husband. If not deleted outright, could be merged with her husband's article. No notability apart from her marriage to Ben Carson. A nice lady, it would seem, and I wish she merited her own article, but it just doesn't appear she has any notability on her own. Fails WP:GNG. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 03:03, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Keep We keep articles on people with far less coverage and who don't have 4 books and a 5th about to be released. Which Carson do you think wrote the books - the one doing brain surgery and flying around giving speaches or the double Yale major with the MBA back in the home office? As for coverage start with [15] [16] [17] [18] [19][20][21][22][23] [24] and if you want to know more I suggest buying her 5th book [25] because one of her books spend weeks on the best seller list. She passes just on WP:AUTHOR "The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work..." and based on the multiple profiles published on her going back for years. Legacypac (talk) 03:28, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

In answer to your question about who I think wrote the books... that's not for us to judge. What is up to us to judge is whether she has an article because of who she is married to (WP:INHERITED) and if she meets Wikipedia's notability guidelines (WP:GNG). If not married to Ben Carson, we wouldn't know who she is. Based on all that, from what I can see, this article should not exist. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 03:44, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Her name is on the covers, which you dismiss. Go apply your logic on this community college teacher Jill Biden or Donald Trumps 3 wives or 5 kids, all of whom have stand alone articles. Legacypac (talk) 03:49, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Islamization of the Gaza Strip[edit]

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The present article "Islamization of the Gaza Strip" may be renamed to "Talibanization of the Gaza Strip," as explained on the talk page. However, given the opposition to that name change under the explanation that "Talibanization" is confusing, the alternative is to delete the article, as Islamization is simply not what is currently happening in Gaza, it is rather a process that occurred a thousand years ago. 0nlyth3truth (talk) 23:05, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

SPEEDY KEEP This long-standing and well-sourced article on a significant topic. and WP:WHACK! User:0nlyth3truth who, dissatisfied with the way his proposal to change the article title was going, brought a conspicuously notable article to AFD.E.M.Gregory (talk) 23:44, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Given that 2 of 3 respondents at the time suggested deleting the article and dispersing its contents as a response to my proposal to rename it, your whack is entirely unmerited and clearly shows that you did not carefully consider the discussion at the talk page. I have since proposed moving the article to "Islamism in the Gaza Strip" and I expect that to get more traction. 0nlyth3truth (talk) 01:24, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

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Keep and rename - though there are some concerns with current name, the article refers to modern radicalization of Islam in Gaza and effectively demise of all other religions in the strip. Maybe Islamist radicalization in the Gaza Strip will be a better title.GreyShark (dibra) 20:29, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
Keep It is still called Islamization when people who were less observant of Islam become more observant. Debresser (talk) 11:03, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
Keep and rename It should simply be renamed to Islamism in the Gaza Strip. This article's scope does not appear to be about how the Gaza Strip gradually became almost completely inhabited by Muslims or changing churches into mosques. The article is about the strict implementation of Hamas' version of Sharia, in the Gaza Strip. The Gaza Strip was already 99% Muslim long before this process began so "Islamization" is rather confusing. There are some sources that use the term "Islamization" in the article, but there are far more scholarly sources that use the term "Islamism" instead, which is a much more common and recognizable term that deals with this socio-political process. The article could also be expanded to include the history of the Muslim Brotherhood (from which Hamas originated) and the Salafist movement in the Gaza Strip and the increasing Muslim conservatism in Gazan society over the decades. This is the most proper route for the article to take. --Al Ameer (talk) 04:08, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
Obviously, no consensus has been reached. I believe my comments here successfully capture why. I am withdrawing my own attempt at changing these titles, but I encourage interested individuals to contribute to a longer-lasting resolution at the Project Islam talk page. 0nlyth3truth (talk) 17:38, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

I would give it some more time before concluding that there is "obviously no consensus", which is a decision that the administrator closing this thread will ultimately determine. --Al Ameer (talk) 18:12, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

Very true. Anyone, feel free to ping me if this conversation goes anywhere. 0nlyth3truth (talk) 22:50, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

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Sarath Lakshman[edit]

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Another non-reliable page of Indian bloggers, clearly fails WP:GNG Kavdiamanju (talk) 01:09, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

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Delete. Sources to support subject is meeting WP:BASIC have not been found. Sam Sailor ^Talk! 02:31, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Type2error[edit]

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Promotional page created and majorly contributed to by SPA/COI. Has been toned down and wikified considerably by myself in August however I think it fails notability tests. Rayman60 (talk) 02:25, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Punya Prasun Bajpai[edit]

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Sourced from primary sources of Aaj Tak. Fails WP:GNG Kavdiamanju (talk) 01:07, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

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Amber Gambler[edit]

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This article is completely unsourced and there is nothing for it to indicate that it meet notability guidelines. Fails WP:BCAST Donnie Park (talk) 00:59, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

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Delete, as while not completely unsourcable,[26] this 45 second safety film does not meet WP:NF. Schmidt, ^{Michael Q.} 06:39, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

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Julie (public information film)[edit]

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This article may claim notability but there is no evidence of it on the internet not helped that this is entirely unsourced in this pretty much now almost forgotten public information film/public service announcement. Donnie Park (talk) 00:46, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

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Delete It's not unsourcable, and I was able to tweak and cite the article somewhat, but I do not think this short safety film meets WP:NF. If it can be merged someplace, I would be okay with that result as well. Schmidt, ^{Michael Q.} 06:23, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
Keep Sourcing is more than reasonable. Meets WP:GNG. AusLondonder (talk) 08:55, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

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Paula Huston[edit]

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Seems to be a not-particularly-notable author. Article is really glowing with praise, which is not surprising given it's written by the author herself and what I assume is a PR firm on her behalf. — foxj 00:35, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

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Delete as News, Books and Highbeam all found links including words such as accomplished but there's simply nothing better for a better article at this time. SwisterTwister talk 08:35, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

We are still learning how to create these pages. Is it the inclusion of endorsements that is the problem? We can remove those if absolutely necessary.Avemarpr (talk) 21:25, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

@Avemarpr: Are you being paid to write/maintain articles like these? You need to declare this on your userpage or you are in breach of the Wikimedia Terms of Use. — foxj 00:50, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Comment got a book review in the NYT [27], and has more of a bio at Amazon than here. I strongly suspect the editor who wrote the BLP simply needs to understand WP:RS as part of the means to establish "notability". I am pretty sure the author meets those criteria, and suggest this AfD be placed on "hold" for a bit. Collect (talk) 23:12, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
keep There are enough reliable, secondary sources (and book reviews) already in the article to pass WP:AUTHOR. But, Can someone explain why an, "American novelist, short story writer, essayist, and creative nonfiction writer." (or a fan of such) but certainly an SPA devoted to promoting this writer can't manage to write a simple encyclopedia article? If article crator is reading this, just read a few WP articles about famous and imfamous writers, and get a clue.E.M.Gregory (talk) 22:08, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
keep, meets WP:GNG, here is a review from the LA Times [28] for Simplifying the Soul - "it's encouraging reading for people struggling with big challenges or the smaller daily distractions that upset our peace of mind." and heres a review of A Land Without Sin from the Chicago Center for Literature and Photography Weekender magazine [29] - "What Paula Huston gives the reader is a mature and cynical adventure novel.". oh and good old Buffalo library shows reviews from Booklist and Publishers Weekly for Signatures of grace[30], The holy way[31], Daughters of song[32], and A land without sin[33].Coolabahapple (talk) 15:27, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

and Kirkus also has a couple of reviews[34],[35]; could a kind administrator please speedy keep this so no more editor's time is wasted, thanks Coolabahapple (talk) 15:35, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

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Trevor Casper[edit]

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BLP1E non notable policeman ,known only for being shot while on duty. DGG ( talk ) 02:18, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Once again, the above user is adding another article to be deleted instead of making edits to improve the article. The article has stood since March 2015. Trevor Casper is a notable policeman in fact, being the Wisconsin State Patrol's youngest trooper in it's history. He is also the youngest law enforcement to be killed in the line of duty. Asher Heimermann (talk)

Destination Kohler[edit]

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No evidence for notability apart from the village. Having an article like this serves no purpose except promotion. DGG ( talk ) 02:11, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

The user who has nominated the article has a history of nominating articles. To me, it seems he is having a contest to see how many articles he can have deleted. However, Destination Kohler is a division of the Kohler Company and is very notable for the fact that the Village of Kohler, Wisconsin contacts with Destination Kohler for tourism which is usually done in-house or by the county's Chamber of Commerce. Destination Kohler is unique in the sense in how it operates. Asher Heimermann (talk)

Merge with Kohler Company. It's already a section in that article. No reason to separate it out except for promotional purposes. And it's not clear that the website has anything to do with the village as the source for that assertion fails verification. 32.218.47.197 (talk) 02:34, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Destination Kohler is under the Village Tourism Committee. Destination Kohler is also Kohler Co.'s tourism promotion department. They apply for money from the Village tourism committee. Since the Village tourism committee gets most of its money from Kohler hotel room taxes, they give Destination Kohler money through their annual contract and agreement. Asher Heimermann (talk) 02:46, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Sounds like original research, as it's not found in the cited source. 32.218.47.197 (talk) 02:50, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Renato Novara[edit]

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Article only sourced by an old school filmography (questionable reliable source on antoniogenna.net) and a single article. So he voices Edward Elric in Italian. Why isn't there any meaningful coverage? AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 02:03, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

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Mawla[edit]

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Purely dictionary definition of an Arabic word. And mostly unreferenced. The prev AfD was no consensus, but the objections posted there were not addressed in the past 8 years since the first Afd.Staszek Lem (talk) 23:11, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

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Comment Mawla seems to be related to Mawali, Mawlana, Mawlawi and Mullah. I hope MezzoMezzo or other wiki-experts on Arabic can shed some light on this and on whether or not it is worthy of an article. - HyperGaruda (talk) 17:00, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
- Yeah, and the Polish word czerwony is related to chervonets, Czerwien, Czerwonak, Bialo-Czerwone Iskry, and several dozens more. So what? Staszek Lem (talk) 19:15, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

It's just that I'm not sure, especially considering that there are so many interwiki links and that Mawla seems to be the parent word of the others I've mentioned. - HyperGaruda (talk) 20:43, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

In all European-lang wikis texts are basically same: dicdefs. And I am not aware that being a "parent word" makes it notable. If this were the case, we'd have whole Latin and Greek vocabulary in wikipedia. Staszek Lem (talk) 22:40, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

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Yes, but if it really is a "parent word", I'd say that a redirect or DAB page is more appropriate than deleting. - HyperGaruda (talk) 08:45, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Delete - Looks to be purely a WP:DICDEF. Not opposed to a redirect if there's an appropriate target. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 23:11, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
Keep if sufficiently improved; otherwise selective merge to Mawali. In the argument above between HyperGaruda and Staszek Lem, HyperGaruda is largely right - terms like Mawali and Mawlana have a far closer conceptual relationship to mawla than any of Staszek Lem's examples have to czerwony (indeed, in origin, Mawali seems just to be the plural of mawla). Mawla can apparently be translated into English as either "patron" or "client", depending on context - in early Muslim society, through to the fall of the Ummayad Caliphate, these patron/client relationships were socially immensely important, to the point where conversion to Islam was only possible if the convert entered into such a relationship with an existing Muslim. This feature of Muslim society largely disappeared after the fall of the Ummayads, but the word and its close relatives remained in use to describe somewhat similar relationships. To be fair, the current article scarcely touches on this at all, so in itself would be no great loss - Mawali already pretty much covers the Ummayad-period patron-client relationships though, if someone with enough expertise could write it, we could certainly do with an article closer in style to the corresponding article on Spanish Wikipedia in its coverage of connections between various related terms - unfortunately, I have absolute none of the knowledge of Arabic that would be necessary to do this adequately. Failing this, redirecting to Mawali would at least roughly cover the original concept, but merging in one or two of the definitional points from here would somewhat strengthen that article. PWilkinson (talk) 01:25, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Spanish article has nothing beyond dicdef plus summaries for derived terms. Their wikipedia have their rules, we have ours. There is nothing to merge. the dicdef for mawla is already there. The rest is gibberish. Staszek Lem (talk) 03:25, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Replace Mawla's contents by those of Mawali and redirect Mawali to Mawla. This text gives a nice explanation of its meaning and most importantly: mawali is the plural form of mawla. Per WP:PLURAL, the current Mawali article should thus actually be titled Mawla. - HyperGaruda (talk) 18:33, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

When considering the merger of revision histories, perhaps it is better to just delete Mawla and then move Mawali to Mawla. - HyperGaruda (talk) 18:39, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Keep Mawla is an important term in Islamic studies as well as Islamic history. It is sufficient to pay attention to google books results[36] to find how many books has written about it.--Seyyed(t-c) 05:32, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
Comment - Currently the article is strictly a WP:DICDEF (or worse -- a partial dictionary entry in that it provides lexicographical information and usage without even including a straight definition). As Wikipedia specifically does not include articles that are dictionary definitions, this a problem regardless of how important the term is (there are lots of important terms that don't have Wikipedia articles. That said, if anyone wants to edit the article to be about a single concept rather than a word, I'd happily reconsider. Otherwise, a keep !vote misunderstands the purpose of Wikipedia vs. that of, say, Wiktionary. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 16:35, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
- Also, I'd like to add that this is a second AfD nomination. If it is so important then why the article is still so useless?Staszek Lem (talk) 18:10, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
DeleteI am not sure why we are even discussing this. Wikipedia is not a dictionary. To be frank this article is not even a dictionary entry as does not even define the term. In my opinion one of the shoddiest articles on wikipedia which should have been tagged with speedy deletion rather than AFD. There are millions of words used in the Hadith and the Quran, so are we going to include them all in wikipedia because they are "important in Islamic studies"? I am afraid not. The WP:BURDEN is on the keep voters to show that this word has a unique definition within Islamic theology which has been given in depth coverage by multiple reliable sources. Otherwise, lets get rid of this mess please. Regards FreeatlastChitchat (talk) 07:25, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

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Yoiking with the Winged Ones[edit]

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Unreleased 2016 album. So far as I can see, none of the sources actually mention the album, they just support facts such as what yoiking is, that crow populations are declining, that flight is a metaphor, etc, so the article fails WP:NALBUM at present. I couldn't find any secondary sources myself. McGeddon (talk) 17:12, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

The Record is mentioned in the Sámi Newspaper Ávvir 10/27/2015 url: http://avvir.no/kultuvra-oddasat/2015/10/dasa-cahka-fiinna-stuora-govva The record is also mentioned in NRK Sámi Radio radio show 'Duorastatmágasiidna' 29/10/20115 url: https://radio.nrk.no/serie/duorastatmagasiidna/SAPP43004415/29-10-2015 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80m6an (talk • contribs) 22:18, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

Comment. Two sources have been added in a sort of external links way (not used as cited sources in the article). The major issue I see with the article is that the text of it is supported by no sources. There are many inline references, but not one of them support the article's content when it relates to the album in question. Manxruler (talk) 09:38, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

All this AfD is doing is determining whether the article should exist yet. If the new sources are in the wrong place and the article needs tidying up, that's fine, we can sort that out later.

I can't seem to autotranslate the first source from Norwegian and the second appears to be audio - can somebody verify that these sources provide the "significant coverage" and "enough material to warrant a reasonably detailed article" that WP:NALBUM requires? (And that they're not interviews "where the musician or ensemble talks about the recording", which would be considered primary sources.) --McGeddon (talk) 09:47, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

The reason you can't autotranslate the source from Norwegian, is that it isn't in Norwegian, but Northern Sami, for which no autotranslation exists. My knowledge of Sami language is extremely limited, but the Ávvir article appears to deal with Ánde Somby's career and his having made/being in the process of making an LP called "Juoiddá Joavdan" in collaboration with Chris Watson. Now, seeing as a cover with "Yoiking with the Winged Ones" appears in the article, "Juoiddá Joavdan" may be the Sami name for "Yoiking with the Winged Ones".

The NRK Sámi Radio link appears to be a portrait interview. Manxruler (talk) 10:25, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

Just found a Northern Sami to Norwegian translator. You could run the text through that, and then from Norwegian to English through Google Translate (granted, I just did that, and the result from Norwegian to English is barely comprehensible). The Ávvir article (according to the Northern Sami to Norwegian translation result) is about Somby's career in general and his having announced on Facebook that he is about to release his first LP ("Juoiddá Joavdan"), with four joiks (songs). The LP (which may be the same as "Yoiking with the Winged Ones") is according to the the article recorded in the Lofoten Islands and had final work done in London, UK, by Chris Watson. It appears that Somby is stating that he is considering to have a release of the LP "Juoiddá Joavdan" in Tromsø, Norway, at some point "after the winter darkness" (probably meaning after 15 January 2016). Manxruler (talk) 12:01, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

Hello there

This editing has been an 'experience'.

It is not hard to understand the rationale for the rules in WP:NALBUM. Wikipedia can be flooded by lots of propmo material from different 'publishers' of records.

When applied to a world where lots of lots of records are published every minute - as the english speaking world. That rationale makes perfectly sence. In particular if that is a world equpped with a huge system of reviewing and evaluating. But if that is applied to worlds where records barely are published the rationale makes less sence. Many of the small cultures have the problem of invisibillity. That applies in particular to cultures where many parts of the culture is threatned by dying, such as the Sqmi Culture with the languag as very threatned and yoiking even more threatned. At the same time these small cultures have an urgent need to somehow 'speak' to the mightiest of cultures - the english speaking culture. Naturally this 'speak' is about sad things and problems. Yoiking with the Winged Ones is an attempt to 'speak' through something different. But oftentimes such attempts are 'killed' by principles that are created for other purposes - such as it appears again in this case. At least I can use this as an example in my teaching on the dilemma between the intended purpose of a principle and the actual consequenses of it - like in this case to add to the problem of invisibillity of Sami Culture (How many articles do you have about Sami Culture here?)

It is neither hard to understand that tagging makes the process of editing much more efficient, fast and requiring less work. But there are som challenges both when the tags are designed and when they in the next round are applied. Here it seems that the challenge is what the tag refers to when it mentiones 'topic'. Is it the very vinyl, its sounds and music, the images on the cover, the envelope, the weight of the record, the feeling when you open up the envelope or is the 'topic' the issues connected and mentioned in the text. In the first case WP:NALBUM only asks for reviews. It would be nice it that was communicated through a disclaimer, so that one would not start to use time to submit articles about records in Wikipedia unless they are reviewed. If WP:NALBUM asks references to the things mentioned in the text, then it becomes a question to reference use of metaphors and history of yoik and what not. When the prose, which is a metaphorical one was tagged, then I understood that as a direction to write referencial prose about the metaphors used.

I dont know how to understand this. Maybe Wikipedias editorial culture is all settled with conventions that seem obvious for the insiders and erratic for newcomers. Maye this is not a welcomening system for newcomers any more and that to try to contribute here ends up being a waste of time. If that is the case, that also would be a good thing to mention in a disclaimer, so that one as a newbie do not end up in such processes as this one.

For me this isnt a total waste of time though. I can pehaps use this case in my course in legal sociology that I teach at the Law faculty. We have some interesting topics involved here - how a regulation is communicated, how the enforcers of the regulation understand and practice the regulation, how formal equal treatment can end up as an unequal treatment. In this case how formally equal regulations in WP:NALBUM intended to limit flooding end up practically blocking any record from indigenous peoples from having an entry. Not many if any if any indigenous cultures have a structure similar to the english reviewing system.

80m6an (talk) 13:32, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

Delete. Even if this topic is notable, the article should be WP:TNT with the mess of original research, poor writing, and non-NPOV. From what I can tell, there isn't reliable, independent coverage of the topic anyways. FuriouslySerene (talk) 14:22, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

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Keep but with reservations - seems like it is a project of importance to the musical heritage of the Sami cultural group. The page is fairly well sourced with good quality references, but the main problem is that many of the references are basically off-topic for the general audience reading this encyclopedia. I enjoyed seeing a reference to an academic work investigating the idea of "The Sublime From Antiquity to the Present. ", but it requires a leap of imagination to understand how that fits within a page discussing an art project in an obscure European language.

Together with the edits above, this suggests to me that 80m6an is new to wikipedia and has written something as would be expected in an academic publication, and is close to (if not already) falling foul of WP:NOR.

I therefore conclude that the editors need help to write encyclopedic content, possibly including a more appropriate title and help to prune the refs. Help rather than delete, I think. JMWt (talk) 21:25, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Can someone explain why this should not be a section on Joik? It seems to me that a lot of the page is making (in my view quite interesting) comments about the social practice rather than the art project, would these not be better found there?JMWt (talk) 14:21, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

I think they're already found there, aren't they? User:80m6an made some edits to the Joik article last week, expanding the oral tradition and fairy angles. If there's anything left in the Winged Ones article that isn't mentioned in the joiking article, I agree it should be moved across.

This is clearly an editor working in good faith who's misunderstood the problem tags applied to their article, but if Winged Ones is not (yet) a notable album, which it doesn't seem to be on current sources, the article should be moved to a draft page. --McGeddon (talk) 17:11, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Hi there

Thank for the work you all put into this. I think I will get off this bus now. I have some experience from different editing interactions from other contexts. I have understanding for that there can be some temperature now and then. What seems characteristic with this one is that me as a newbie in this, the editors involved Manxruler and McGeddon in combination with how the tags are formulated becomes a confusing experience. At first there seemed to be some minor issues, and I started to fix them. Then more and more issues appeared. As I tried to edit the text new ones came up. One example is that the article was originally written in a pretty metaphoric prose that is usual for this type of articles, but then it was tagged that the prose should be more referencial, so I did, and here we are. As I already mentioned, this hasnt been a total waste of time for me, as I can use this experience in teaching my class. But now I do not want to go further in this. I leave you in peace and love. Thank you for your patience. I hope the tags I put on top of the article will make it disappear. All the best.

I was planning to write more on the joik page. The few edits that I did, gives just some fragments. But I want to gett off this bus. I would like to delete the edits that I made there, so that things are as tidy as they were before I entered this. How should I do that? Is there a page that directs how to do that.

80m6an (talk) 23:44, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Sigh, that's very unfortunate. Unfortunately I think you are unlikely to be teaching your class an accurate understanding of how the wikipedia culture works because you don't appear to understand it yourself. That said, if you felt under attack when doing your best to write a useful article, then I can only apologise and assure you that it is not about you. There is certainly space here for discussion of the cultural identity of the Sámi, you've just written about it in a way that doesn't really work here. I don't know how else to explain it to you. JMWt (talk) 16:03, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

I have added a short section on the project on Joik#Contemporary_developments. Unfortunately whilst many of the references on Yoiking_with_the_Winged_Ones are interesting, few are directly relevant. I am sure that 80m6an feels the whole thing has been a complete car-crash as he/she has obviously put in a lot of effort and has been frustrated with the process of adding information to wikipedia and is not understanding what is the normal practices and checks-and-balances in place here. I only hope they come back and try again. JMWt (talk) 16:25, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

Delete

Wikipedia is a good thing. No doubt about that.

However I think that every community somehow encapsulates itself in common practises that are not so accessible to newcomers; what JMWt refers to as 'the normal practices and checks-and-balances in place here'. A world that is Kafkaesque does not have bad willed people. Everybody is doing their best. I think that is the case with current editing in Wikipedia as well. I dont find McGeddon or Manxruler ill willed. But as an experience this appears to be like being In the Hall of the Mountain King. The language is twisted like what 'topic' refers to. The logic is twisted. Manxruler asks for adjustment of prose and asks for references. When that is done, then new issues appear. McGeddon is contradicting him/herself. FuriouslySerene takes the full step and uses a language that reminds very much about troll-talk when commenting the article, but that is perhaps also common practise here.

In an afterthought it would have saved me for work and effort if I had a disclaimer when I got the automatic invitation to write an article about the project. This has not been a waste of time. It has rather been an interesting experience. I am satisefied with that. I am sorry for that I don't have the time to be a part of this any more.

Please. Could me and my text leave this hall in peace?

I promise. I wont enter your premises again.

80m6an (talk) 21:28, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

Hi There.

Now I see that the article is taken down. Thank you so much for helping me out of this. All the Best.

80m6an (talk) 11:10, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

The article is still there for now - since discussion is currently split on whether to keep it, we should let this Articles For Deletion discussion run its course before deleting anything.

Wikipedia is a project maintained by volunteers around the world who help out where they can and don't necessarily coordinate - what you see as a Kafkaesque bureaucracy of "new issues" being brought forth when others are resolved is just different editors seeing different problems. Some editors can be a bit terse, but most will be happy to answer questions if you aren't sure what a template is asking you to fix, or what a policy means. (I'm not sure where you think I've contradicted myself, but feel free to ask me if you want anything I've said clarified.) --McGeddon (talk) 11:25, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Dear Manxruler Dear McGeddon Dear FuriouslySerene Dear JMWt

I appriciate your involvement in this wonderful effort to make Wikipedia what it is.

I have had my share here now, and I am kindly asking you if you could assist me to get out of this. Is there a simple good and peaceful way for me to get myself and my text out of this?

80m6an (talk) 14:22, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

I understand, but nobody can delete content until there is consensus and this process has run the course. You can stop contributing any time you like. JMWt (talk) 14:24, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

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Company Folders[edit]

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Not notable. Ref 1 may or may not be a reliable source, but it's basically an interview where the founder says how good he did; ref 2 isn't third party, it's written by the company founder; Ref 3 is the firm's own press release, Ref 4 is a directory entry, ref 5 shows the company is one of the 5000 most rapidly growing, which is a trivial distinction, usually obtained by still being not yet notable. Part of a press campaign, see also Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vladimir Gendelman. Press campaigns do not belong in WP--they're advertising, and we don't publish advertising. DGG ( talk ) 18:22, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

Keep I understand taking down Vladimir Gendelman's article. I knew going into that one it was a stretch, but not having much experience in BLP space I thought it'd at least be good practice. But the company has distinction within it's industry, and I frankly feel like the only reason why this AfD is in place is because of the article on Gendelman. I've been upfront and cooperative with everyone and I feel like things have gotten out of hand. PeRshGo (talk) 18:53, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
Delete. Not seeing anything beyond press-releases, niche trade journals and pure PR. Fails WP:NCOMPANY on a number of counts. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 01:50, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
Delete. Small local company with fewer than 10 employees and no national notice. From the creator's other edits & some conversation with him this doesn't appear to be deliberate promotion/advertising but part of an effort to inclusively document local businesses. While understandable this still fails Wikipedia:Notability. JamesG5 (talk) 08:33, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

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List of tallest buildings in Karachi[edit]

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Hello. I am recommending deletion of this list on the basis that the information presented is not reliable, and will most likely be near impossible to appropriately source in a manner which would be consistent with our encyclopedia.

There are 94 different buildings being compared in this list, almost all of which are without an article, and only two sources. Visiting those two sources, one goes to the Karachi Port Trust at http://www.kpt.gov.pk/ and provides no verifiable information at that link, and the second source [37] is a public notice PDF from the Sindh Building Control Authority, which actually contradicts the information presented where cited. The PDF source makes references to number of floors and sellable square footage for "Bahria Town Icon", and does not provide height values for KPT Twin Tower, does not confirm if the project is approved, and disagrees with the number of floors listed.

In other words, save for two inappropriately cited references which do nothing to validate any of the claims provided, this list is unsourced. Steps were taken WP:BEFORE this nomination to locate better sources for this list but were not successful. Please do not hesitate to contact me if there is a recognized body which tracks this information in a uniform and consistent manner and appropriate sources can be located prior to the close of this discussion. Regards, Yamaguchi先生 (talk) 00:51, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

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For all its problems, the list doesn't have a single maintenance tag. We have such lists for pretty much every city in the world. My inclination would be to tag it and at least try to fix the problems, before trying to delete. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 01:18, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Indo-Western clothing[edit]

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No WP:SIGCOV. Lots of mentions from reliable sources, but they never go in depth about the topic. Unreferenced since March 2014. Mr. Guye (talk) 00:35, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

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Frank Shiner[edit]

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Puff-piece for what appears to be a non-notable jobbing actor and apparently self-published musician (at least, Google shows nothing published by "Bakerson Records" other than Frank Shiner); to judge by the talkpage, it looks like this is spam from a PR agency (and legitimately declared as such under the TOU). The reference section looks legit at first glance, but when you actually open them up it's clear that they're almost all press releases reprinted by local papers with minimal tweaking (most of them so similar that I suspect they're based on the same press release), augmented with outright adverts and a couple of interviews with his local press and radio stations. "The top five of FMQB‍ 's Adult Contemporary chart" sounds impressive, but per WP:Record charts#Billboard charts for US chart positions we use Billboard (the relevant one here would be Billboard Adult Contemporary) and AllMusic, both of which show no trace of Frank Shiner ever being mentioned on one of their charts. (Billboard, AllMusic; in the case of the latter, if he'd ever actually appeared on a recognised chart he'd have an "Awards" tab on his profile listing his chart positions). It's possible that Mr Shiner is going to be massive one day, but we don't do crystal-ball gazing, and at present he meets no part of either WP:MUSICBIO or WP:NACTOR. ‑ iridescent 00:05, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Shiner meets points 1 and 2 of WP:BAND without a doubt, as well as point 12. Read the article, the details are very clearly stated within. 2601:643:1:FF00:CCAF:6262:9998:F62B (talk) 00:24, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

I'll be able to detail that further later, as well as answer any complaints you have about the article. If it's only notability, I'll address that with regard to WP:BAND in further depth. 2601:643:1:FF00:CCAF:6262:9998:F62B (talk) 00:30, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Delete – Per Iridescent, most of sources are local coverage which includes trivial performance dates supplemented by press-packet derived drivel, which is not usable per WP:MUSICBIO. Brief filler interviews in radio syndicate are absolutely not substantial enough to meet point 12 of BAND. The remaining sources are all either too small-fry or PR-ish to be helpful. The Improper is a trashy tabloid and Inside Chappaqua Magazine may be a great resource for the locals, but if a small community arts mag review of a single concert the best independent coverage out there, than too soon at best. Grayfell (talk) 00:38, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
Delete. Another typical bio article about someone from left field. Eddie 00:50, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Benjamin W.S. Lum[edit]

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Non-notable actor. It seems that he had bit parts in various roles, but never a main role. I was able to find one brief obituary on him, but it seems to be more "local" news. Natg 19 (talk) 00:17, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

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