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Update Prime Minister

In at least one place, this page still says Stephen Harper is the current Prime Minister.

He is. --Ħ MIESIANIACAL 03:58, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Harper is PM until he offers & the GG accepts, his resignation. GoodDay (talk) 04:04, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Transition date is November 4: Stephen Harper to officially resign as prime minister next week Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 12:50, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Small sub sections

The small section "religion" is not up to FA standers (A small paragraph does not make a section) - nor should we have a sentence all alone. I had reverted the change to the stable version but then this was reverted back. So here we are. We have talked about this is the past at Talk:Canada/Archive 22#New Sub-Sections? when this was tried in the past after the FA review when the subsections were removed. I personally think we would need to add more prose text to warrant the creation of a subheader for the topic...but then again not an important topic to Canadians (as stated in the article). Last time we had this talk it was split but we restored the FA version because there people said the section flows better when not broken up ....BUT its been a long time so lets bring this up again. I like sections...but hate subsections with small amount of info.. if it looks and flows (reads) better all as one section undivided. What do others think here. I do agree no need for pie chart as the info is in the text..my mistake. Canada current sub section version - vs- old version. --Moxy (talk) 01:00, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

As there is a spinout article with additional details, I think having a suitable summary in its own section is appropriate for this article. isaacl (talk) 02:11, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

No, I agree with Moxy: the section is too small to warrant its existence. The info should be merged into another section. --Ħ MIESIANIACAL 02:50, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

Religion has been a significant influence on Canada, as evidenced by the Religion in Canada article. A longer summary section in this article can be written based on the spinout article. isaacl (talk) 03:48, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

It could, but, this is already a long article and what is the importance of religion in Canada as compared to other topics covered here? Is it enough to justify a two or three paragraph section on the subject? --Ħ MIESIANIACAL 03:56, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

The section is already a paragraph and a half. Adding another half-paragraph or so would not strain the article's size and additional context regarding the influence of religion on present-day Canada can be provided, beyond just the stats. isaacl (talk) 04:11, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

I would have no problem adding a bit more. But I think I would talk about the great decline of religion (as stated in the lead at the religion article Lance W. Roberts (2005). Recent Social Trends in Canada, 1960-2000. McGill-Queen's Press - MQUP. p. 359. ISBN 978-0-7735-2955-7.  and news articles like A leap for some faiths, but many Canadians are losing their religion). We could add "With Christianity in decline after having once been central and integral to Canadian culture and daily life, Canada has become a post-Christian, secular state." Not sure we could find any sources saying religion influences Canadian politics or national agenda for that mater anymore.-- Moxy (talk) 05:12, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

Firstly, I do think there is a clear case for a separate 'Languages' subsection, as it currently stands, since this is a very important issue in Canada. Secondly, I agree that the religion subsection is currently too small. The Religion in Canada article is fairly large and contains a whole lot of information that is not summarised in this article; for example, it talks about the history of religion in Canada (and the current decline). So we could modestly expand the second paragraph and have a small two paragraph subsection. I think subsections are justified because they help the reader to find relevant information more easily. --Hazhk (talk) 13:17, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

OK i added a bit of text from main stable parent article...info well sourced-- Moxy (talk) 14:18, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

Change of government

Trudeau is supposed to be sworn in in a few hours (see Justin Trudeau's Liberal cabinet to be sworn in at Rideau Hall, Justin Trudeau, cabinet ministers to be sworn in during Wednesday ceremony) After that, changing the name of the prime minister should be allowed. I'll be in bed by that point, but after the swearing in it shouldn't be reverted if someone changes it.  DiscantX 11:43, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

That's the point. Yes. Until he's sworn in, he's not the prime minister and it's incorrect to indicate that he is the prime minister. After he's sworn-in, he is and it's incorrect to indicate that someone else is the prime minister. Walter Görlitz (talk) 14:35, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 November 2015

s'il vous plaît pouvez-vous ajouter à ce que les concessionnaires d'automobiles au Canada offrent les prix les plus bas pour les pièces au Québec T3432a (talk) 11:02, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

Not done - Ne pas fait – pour deux raisons:-
Premier, nous sommes une encyclopédie, pas un site de comparaison des prix
en second, c'est l'anglais Wikipedia - Arjayay (talk) 11:12, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

Punjabi Official language

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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It is strange that Punjabi is neither listen as Canada's official language nor regional!! http://www.indiatimes.com/news/world/canada-shows-some-love-back-punjabi-becomes-the-third-official-language-of-country-s-parliament-246930.html

37.140.228.18 (talk) 23:06, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

See the constitution. trackratte (talk) 23:14, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

ok sad they are not updated? Anayway, so Punjabi is not even a regional language??? like it almost doesn't exist significantly in Canada? 37.140.228.18 (talk) 15:14, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

The news article you cite uses the word official as a catch phrase, in the sense that 'alright guys, now it's official, the Beatles have taken over America' is used. "Official" in the legal sense means that a language is recognised by the state and therefore services rendered in that language are legally mandated. English and French are the only two official languages at the federal level. At the provincial level (regional), English is the only official language everywhere except for Quebec where French is the only official language, and New Brunswick, where both French and English are official languages. Institutions may offer language services in other languages, but such voluntary usage does not make those languages "official" in the legal sense. Currently, the House of Commons does not provide services in any other language besides French and English. trackratte (talk) 20:41, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

Okay thanks I said something else this time. There is a significant proportion of the population that speaks Punjabi.

This link says "The 430,705 native Punjabi speakers make up about 1.3 per cent of Canada's population and the 20 Punjabi-speaking lawmakers represent almost six per cent of the House of Commons." http://www.ndtv.com/world-news/punjabi-becomes-third-language-in-canadas-house-of-commons-1239259 Thanks again. 37.140.228.18 (talk) 18:08, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

Still not an official language. Walter Görlitz (talk) 21:20, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

Punjabi is no where near an official language of Canada. Only English and French are considered official languages. If there were to be more official languages in the future, I can assure you there would be many more languages ahead of consideration long before Punjabi is mentioned. In any case, it is very, very unlikely more languages will ever be added as true official languages of Canada. Vaselineeeeeeee (talk) 21:44, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

I am sorry I think I was not good enough in making clear that I am no more talking about it being an official language of Canada. I am saying a significant proportion of people speak it is Canada and therefore it should be mentioned as one of the languages spoken. 37.140.228.18 (talk) 15:39, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

The header for this discussion you started is "Punjabi Official language". That, plus your remark "It is strange that Punjabi is [not] listen [sic] as Canada's official language" would lead people to believe you wished for Punjabi to be listed as an official language.

There are dozens of languages spoken in Canada. This is a wide-ranging article on Canada; it's not the place to get into specifics like each language spoken by some numbers of people in the country. --₪ MIESIANIACAL 15:46, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

Please see Languages of Canada#Languages by mother tongue. As of the 2011 census it is the largest percentage of non-official languages spoken as a first language, only by virtue of people responding "Chinese" rather than "Mandarin" or "Cantonese". There is no indication what percentage speak it, or other languages, as a second language, also known as "language spoken at home". Walter Görlitz (talk) 15:51, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

This is so funny. If someone saw the heading "official language" they should also see the discussion that followed. It will be stupid to change the heading now! Is that why the 1 hour donation has been going on for months? You guys seem to be so serios as if making constitutions, yet there is so much difference how you present different countries. In the page India, they say Indian tourism doesn't contribute to GDP significantly, that's why can't be included. It is 10th largest economy! It's got much else to contribute to its GDP! It is in top 10 Asian destinations! Secondly, ok. I get it. This page is ok. Let the discussion be over. 37.140.228.18 (talk) 18:42, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Now you've lost me. Walter Görlitz (talk) 05:30, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

I'm guessing you should have a gander at WP:SUMMARY. --₪ MIESIANIACAL 05:52, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

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Standard units of measurement

I think it would be great to have the standard units of measurement listed for Canada (maybe even other countries). They are neighbors of the U.S and I don't know if they too still use imperial units or metric, or if (like Australia and the U.K) they use both depending on context (height/depth, distance, etc.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by HeyAlreadyDonated (talk • contribs) 10:19, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Officially we use metric; in actual practice, we follow the contextual variation you listed as the last option. Bearcat (talk) 18:10, 17 November 2015 (UTC)