Template talk:Europe topic

Caucasus states opt-in

While I don't oppose disabling states with tiny or no parts in Europe by default, this edit by Dbachmann is a fairly radical one I disagree with for several reasons:

• It was done inconsistently. Azerbaijan and Abkhazia were left opt-out while the others (Georgia, Armenia, NKR, South Ossetia) were made opt-in. If the criterion is that only states entirely in Asia are omitted by default, Georgia should be changed back since it's also partly in Europe.
• No change to the documentation page was made to explain that/how the changed entries can be activated.
• To more easily add the Caucasian states, I think there should be an option (maybe |Caucasus=yes) to activate them all at once – |AM=yes|GE=yes|NKR=yes|SO=yes is kind of cumbersome.

SiBr₄ (talk) 11:55, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

I agree with all of this. But I'd add that Abkhazia is entirely on the Asian side of the Caucasian watershed (so, if that's the split, it should go opt-in). I'd also question Kazakhstan, whose European territory is relatively small and thinly-populated: I might be inclined to make it opt-in (but I won't push it).

There is a question of these options being used for POV purposes, which we should discourage if possible.

Finally, note that Cyprus is - geographically-speaking - fairly unambiguously in Asia, but it's so commonly treated as European that it should probably be included be default. Kahastok talk 13:37, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

I agree with the above concerns, either consistently apply the same argument to Turkey, Cyprus, Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan, SO, NK, NC and Abkhazia or don't at all.-- Ευπάτωρ ^Talk!! 04:45, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

Georgia is not "partly in Europe". Georgia is a member of various European organisations, this is true, but it is not geographically in Europe (apart from some glacier or rock face in the Caucasus just reaching across the watershed). If there is no consensus for my proposed consensus of "opt-in", I suppose we'll just remove the non-European entries again. I would remind you that this is supposed to be a template focussing on Europe in the geographical sense (not EU, not "Western world", but geographically Europe). --dab (𒁳) 06:44, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Prehistoric Europe

Is there some way to make this daughter template "|UK_only=no" by default? There is no 'prehistoric United Kingdom' by definition. Ben MacDui 17:35, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

Soviet Union years

Shouldn't there be a Year in the Soviet union link on the template for years 1922-1990?Kges1901 (talk) 10:51, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

This template only includes currently existing countries and territories. Use the template {{Year in Europe}} instead for "Year in country" articles, since that does change its list of countries based on the input year:

SiBr₄ (talk) 11:25, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

EU/Non-EU

I suggest making a separate bracket for EU sovereign states and non-EU sovereign states, since EU has the common minimum standard regarding gun laws. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overview_of_gun_laws_by_nation#European_Union

Cimmerian praetor (talk) 19:54, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

There are countless national and international uses for this template; I don't think the structure should be determined by gun laws. bobrayner (talk) 20:36, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

Red Links

Hey, Not sure if this is the place to put this but when this template appears in English_tort_law all the links are red, but they work perfectly fine in Template:Europe_topic. --Jaffacakemonster53 (talk) 23:21, 18 November 2015 (UTC)