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- House of Flavors hook reads like an advert. Per this discussion, suggest it is trimmed down to something vaguely encyclopedic, such as "... that the House of Flavors' signature ice cream is the "Blue Moon" flavor (pictured) that has been sold since 1935?" The Rambling Man (talk) 04:30, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
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The new Main Page[edit]
Time for our yearly discussion :) Before november, on our current main page's 10th birthday, or at least before the year is out, I would like to introduce the new Main Page (talk). There have been many discussions, but no concrete plans as of yet. So I plan to take action myself. While I am not that good at organizing discussions or RfCs, I do want input, so I am asking the community for a consult.
I will say this upfront: There will be a new Main Page this year. There can no longer be a question if the Main Page needs to be renewed; past RfC have made that clear. I have looked at them and tried to best implement their outcome. I have repeatedly asked for improvements, and while I have had some valuable input, most discussion revolved around process instead. So I will have none of that.
So this is the final round. There is no "if", only "how". There is no process, only progress. This is your final change to vent your ideas. I will try to work them in as best I can. Some pointers though: Forget process, forget the old page; Wikilawyering and comparing old stuff are the surest ways to grind any progress to a halt, so I will basically ignore such. The Main Page is basically just the same as an article, which happens to be a lot more visible. I can understand any restraint for change, but also know that the current page design is becomeing a laughing stock fo web designers.
In light of this, I invite anyone to step up as moderator. I would like to discuss on the new page's talk page, or on Draft talk:Main Page for that matter. You can read the background for the new design there, and adress any specifics that come to mind. I also propose to add a permanent link the discussion page, so it does not die out again. -- [[User:Edokter]] {{talk}}
20:13, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
- I thoroughly agree with your sentiments. Please just do it, but please make it good. 31.49.181.129 (talk) 23:04, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
A concrete proposal[edit]
The claim "There have been many discussions, but no concrete plans as of yet" appears to be factually incorrect. I have had a concrete plan at User:Guy Macon/Simple Main Page since 2013. What I lack is any way to get anyone who has the power to change the main page to consider it. I could get a thousand or so signatures on a petition to get it considered, but I have no confidence that that the result would reach anyone who has the power to change the main page.
I have also proposed that we replace the current main page with User:Guy Macon/Simple Main Page for 1% (randomly chosen) of our visitors for a week, followed by 10% of our visitors for a week if there are no obvious problems. The statistics on that would give us a solid answer to the question "does all of this DYK, OTD, etc. material really need to clutter the main page, or would having it as subpages linked from the main page work just as well?" --Guy Macon (talk) 10:57, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
- I meant plans by the community. And I don't want to be blunt, but your proposal has not gained any significant traction. In fact, I think (someone correct me if I'm wrong) such a plan to make a minimalist main page the default would only attract active opposition. Any admin has the technical ability to change the main page, but the people who have the "power" to change the main page is the community; if you actually were to get a 1000 signatures, no doubt it would seriously be considered.
- However, I am pushing this forward as no previous method or process in the past ten years has actually worked. There is not ever going to be a single proposal that will gain consensus; the community has gotten far too big for that. So it is time to leave it to someone (or few) who take(s) direction, just like all the individual section on the main page are governed right now. That means input is always considered, but that input will not be able to block progress anymore.
-- [[User:Edokter]] {{talk}}
15:39, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
Bud Spencer[edit]
Please feature the news about the death of Italian actor Carlo Pedersoli (Bud Spencer) on the main page. He was an extremely popular actor in many countries throughout Europe (Italy, Germany, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary, etc.) It's just disturbing that a person who had created so many cult movies, does not even get a one line notice on the Main Page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.107.64.22 (talk • contribs) 08:37, 28 June 2016
- It's under discussion at WP:ITNC. Optimist on the run (talk) 08:55, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
- As few computer screens are 60" wide, there will always be omissions. 193.132.104.10 (talk) 13:58, 28 June 2016 (UTC)