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Democrats hear from just-resigned aide to Pompeo as impeachment inquiry continues

The House impeachment inquiry is exposing new details about unease in the State Department and White House over U.S. President Donald Trump's actions toward Ukraine and those of his personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani.

Michael McKinley resigned Friday after 37 years in government

Michael McKinley, ex-top aide to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, leaves Capitol Hill in Washington on Wednesday after testifying before congressional lawmakers as part of the House impeachment inquiry into U.S. President Donald Trump. (Andrew Harnik/The Associated Press)

The House impeachment inquiry is exposing new details about unease in the State Department and White House over U.S. President Donald Trump's actions toward Ukraine and those of his personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani.

On Wednesday, a former aide to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo arrived to speak to the House impeachment panels behind closed doors. Michael McKinley, who resigned Friday, is a career foreign service officer and Pompeo's de facto chief of staff.

He was expected to discuss concerns held by career State Department officials about the treatment of the U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, Marie Yovanovitch, and others who worked on the Ukraine portfolio, according to a person familiar with his testimony. A Latin America specialist, McKinley wasn't directly involved in Ukraine policy, but as a senior adviser to Pompeo was generally aware of the situation, the person said.

North Carolina Rep. Mark Meadows told reporters outside the closed-door hearing that McKinley was complimentary about Pompeo's role but did raise other issues.

"I think most of this is a concern by a colleague for an ambassador that he held in high regard," Meadows said, declining to provide more details on the session.

McKinley was also expected to talk about demoralization in the ranks of career foreign service officers and what many have lamented as the politicization of the once apolitical bureaucracy, according to the person, who was granted anonymity to speak about his remarks.

North Carolina Rep. Mark Meadows, right, arrives for Wednesday's closed-door meeting on Capitol Hill. He spoke briefly to reporters about McKinley's appearance before the House impeachment panels. (Andrew Harnik/The Associated Press)

The 37-year veteran of the diplomatic corps was known to be unhappy with the state of affairs, although his farewell note to colleagues mentioned nothing about the reason for his departure other than it was a "personal decision."

Another key figure in the impeachment investigation, special envoy Kurt Volker, returned to Capitol Hill on Wednesday. He and his lawyer were to review the transcript of his Oct. 3 testimony to investigators, according to a person familiar with his appearance who was not authorized to discuss it. Republicans said all the transcripts from the investigation should be released to the public.

Volker provided text messages to lawmakers that revealed an effort at the State Department to push Ukraine's leader into opening an investigation of the Ukrainian gas company Burisma, connected to Joe Biden's son, in return for a visit with Trump.

That effort soon escalated into what one diplomat feared was a quid pro quo for U.S. military aid. Trump has denied that, saying assistance to Ukraine was delayed to pressure the country into addressing corruption.

The testimony so far from the witnesses, mainly officials from the State Department and other foreign policy posts, is largely corroborating the account of the government whistleblower, whose complaint first sparked the impeachment inquiry, according to lawmakers attending the closed-door interviews.

U.S. presidential candidate Joe Biden’s son, Hunter Biden, says although his family has helped him get opportunities, he denies any unethical behaviour engaging in foreign work in Ukraine and China. 1:47

Trump's July 25 phone call in which he pressed Ukraine's president to investigate the Bidens is at the centre of the Democrats' inquiry.

One witness said it appeared "three amigos" tied to the White House had taken over foreign policy. Another quoted former national security adviser John Bolton as calling Giuliani a "hand grenade" for his back-channel efforts to get Ukraine to investigate the Bidens.

Once Democrats have completed the probe and followed any other threads it produces, they will use their findings to help determine whether to vote on articles of impeachment.

Speaker Nancy Pelosi, despite intensifying calls from Trump and Republicans to hold a formal vote to authorize the impeachment inquiry, showed no indication she would do so. She said Congress will continue its investigation as part of the Constitution's system of checks and balances of the executive.

This is not a game for us. This is deadly serious. We're on … a path to the truth.- Nancy Pelosi, Democratic House Speaker 

"This is not a game for us. This is deadly serious. We're on … a path to the truth," Pelosi told reporters after a closed-door session with House Democrats.

Trump calls the impeachment inquiry an "illegitimate process" and is blocking officials from co-operating.

Trump and congressional leaders will be meeting later Wednesday at the White House on other matters.

Former vice-president Joe Biden was asked about his son's involvement in Ukraine affairs for the first time at a Democratic debate on Tuesday night in Westerville, Ohio. Joe and Hunter Biden have each denied any wrongdoing. (John Minchillo/The Associated Press)

'Parallel process' to normal diplomatic channels alleged

The inquiry is moving quickly as a steady stream of officials appears behind closed doors this week, some providing new revelations about the events surrounding the July call between Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. It is on that call that Trump urged Zelensky to investigate a firm tied to Joe Biden's family and Ukraine's own involvement in the 2016 presidential election.

California Rep. Adam Schiff, chair of the intelligence committee overseeing the probe, has praised State Department officials for stepping forward, under subpoena, to shed light on the matter.

"We have learned much of this thanks to the courageous testimony of the State Department officials who have been put in an impossible situation by the administration," which is urging them not to comply with requests to testify to Congress, he said. "They are doing their duty."

Deputy Assistant Secretary of State George Kent, right, is shown Tuesday on the Capitol. A Democratic congressman said Kent testified to his concern over the actions of Rudy Giuliani, Trump's personal lawyer. (Andrew Harnik/The Associated Press)

Career State Department official George Kent testified Tuesday that he was told by administration officials to "lay low" on Ukraine as the "three amigos" tied to the White House took over U.S. foreign policy toward the eastern European ally.

Kent was concerned about the "fake news smear" against Yovanovitch, the former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, whom Trump recalled in May, according to emails obtained by The Associated Press.

Kent, the deputy assistant secretary of state, told lawmakers he "found himself outside a parallel process" and had warned others about Giuliani as far back as March. He felt the shadow diplomacy was undermining decades of foreign policy and the rule of law in Ukraine and that was "wrong," said Democratic congressman Gerry Connolly of Virgnia.

Former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine testified in the Trump impeachment inquiry that there had been "a concerted campaign" to remove her from her post. 2:02

Connolly said Kent described the results of a May 23 meeting at the White House, organized by Trump's acting chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney, where three administration officials — U.S. Ambassador Gordon Sondland, special envoy Kurt Volker and Energy Secretary Rick Perry — declared themselves the people now responsible for Ukraine policy.

"They called themselves the three amigos," Connolly said Kent testified.

Kent also told them that Trump, through the Office of Management and Budget, which Mulvaney previously led, was holding up military aid to Ukraine while pressing Zelensky to investigate Burisma, the company linked to Hunter Biden, who served on its board between 2014-2018.

"He was clearly bothered by the role Mr. Giuliani was playing," Connolly said.

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