Talk:Calgary

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Former good article Calgary was one of the Geography and places good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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March 7, 2007 Peer review Reviewed
November 14, 2007 Good article nominee Listed
April 18, 2009 Good article reassessment Delisted
Current status: Delisted good article
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edit · history · watch · refresh Stock post message.svg To-do list for Calgary:
  1. There needs to be significantly more information for economy and industry. This section is sorely lacking, and once it's expanded, there should be a sub-article created. --Arch26 08:56, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
  2. Some of the new sub-articles such as Sports in Calgary, Festivals in Calgary, and Military in Calgary need work. --Arch26 08:56, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
  3. References need to be added to the new "References" section. --Arch26 08:56, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
  4. The "Politics" section is missing information on local politics. --Arch26 08:59, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
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Largest city and economic leader[edit]

Largest city[edit]

Over the last 30 months, numerous editors (one registered and five IPs) have felt it necessary the lead must twice mention Calgary is Alberta's largest city. [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10]

The most recent edit summary provides an insufficient reason why this fact should be redundantly mentioned twice in the article's opening paragraph.

Three unique users (myself, 117Avenue and Brian Crawford) have reverted the attempts to redundantly mention this within the lead over the past 30 months.

All three population rankings are conveniently mentioned together in the third sentence – largest city in Alberta, third-largest municipality in Canada and fifth-largest metro.

The consensus here has been that there is no need to redundantly mention the fact twice in the same paragraph. Hwy43 (talk) 09:52, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Mpr001, thank you for recognizing the redundancy. Hwy43 (talk) 05:42, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Economic leader[edit]

There have been repeated attempts to add "The city is recognized as an economic leader within Canada" with Calgary Economic Development (CED) as the supporting reference.

The CED is funded by the City of Calgary, the private business sector and others with the mandate to work "with businesses, government and community partners to position Calgary as the location of choice for the purpose of attracting business investment, fostering trade and growing Calgary's workforce."

As mentioned in edit summaries, the CED is obviously a biased source for this assertion and is therefore not a reliable source.

It has since been asserted that the claim is based on Statistics Canada, which is incorrect and WP:SYNTH.

Rather, CED has taken select economic indicators from StatCan to support their opinion of Calgary being an economic powerhouse.[11]

A second source was added in an attempt to supplement the CED source, but it is also SYNTH as all its says is Calgary is forecasted (speculated) to lead all Canadian cities in economic growth this year (2014).[12]

Without question, Calgary is an economic leader within Canada, but the above two sources do not properly support the claim and letting the claim and two sources stand smells of WP:PROMOTION.

I have no problem with the claim being re-added if it is based on an unbiased reliable source that explicitly confirms the assertion. Hwy43 (talk) 09:52, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Not trying to be promotional, just trying to reflect reality. I have changed the wording to reflect the Conference Board of Canada. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mpr001 (talk • contribs) 20:52, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
Mpr001, thank you for recognizing the concern and revising the wording. The new content was a tad too granular for the lead section though, so I boldly moved it to the Economy section (last sentence of the first paragraph). In its place within the lead however, I have added a new sentence about Calgary having the second-most corporate head offices in Canada. Cheers, Hwy43 (talk) 05:46, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
No problem with it being moved under Economy section. Is it the understanding that no info cited from an Economic Development Corporation for a specific city, is allowed? Mpr001 (talk) 16:43, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
Mpr001, that is not necessarily true. The bone of contention here was the content added was derived from CED's opinion of Calgary. You added other content from the CED website – Calgary's various economic activity sectors – that is factual rather than opinion and this content has not been deleted. Hwy43 (talk) 05:38, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
Hwy43, but what determines what is opinion? In the Economy section for Edmonton it says "Edmonton is the major economic centre for northern and central Alberta". There is no citation for this and even if there were, how is this any less opinion then asserting that Calgary is an economic leader when there are citations that support this, not merely a derived opinion from the CED but supported by the Conference Board of Canada?

Is the best city ever?[edit]

Is the best city ever, ? what is that. User:Mdupont 24.124.15.166 (talk) 20:09, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

Garden variety vandalism and/or a test edit. I have reverted it back to the original. Thanks for catching that! Resolute 20:29, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

"World city rankings" section[edit]

A discussion has been initiated to determine if city rankings published by magazines, newspapers, etc. are appropriate/encyclopedic. The outcome may affect the current World city rankings section of this article, and numerous other city articles across Canada. Please join the discussion. Hwy43 (talk) 02:30, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

Economics section[edit]

Its misleading to have "The Conference Board of Canada forecasts Calgary to lead the country in GDP growth through to 2016" since the report is from 2012, way before the drop in oil prices. It would be hard to find an economist who agrees with that today. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.189.236.26 (talk • contribs)

I tried accessing two more recent publications from the Conference Board of Canada – Calgary: Metropolitan Outlook 1, Winter 2016 and Metropolitan Outlook 1: Economic Insights into 13 Canadian Metropolitan Economies: Autumn 2015. The Conference Board wants $910 and $2,970 for them respectively. Perhaps they can be viewed at a public library somewhere for no charge. Hwy43 (talk) 04:52, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
Despite the paywall, the document highlights from Metropolitan Outlook 1: Economic Insights into 13 Canadian Metropolitan Economies, Winter 2016 states "Calgary’s real GDP will decline by 1.2 per cent in 2016 as low oil prices continue to hamper the region’s economy" while also stating "Strength in manufacturing, construction, and the services sector will help GDP grow by 3.3 per cent in Vancouver in 2016." This confirms the suspicion that the content is no longer accurate. Consider it removed. Hwy43 (talk) 05:23, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
Thank you Hwy43! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.189.236.26 (talk) 08:09, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

External links modified[edit]

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