Talk:Yukon

"Alternate Name"

Yukon does not have any alternate name (not even in French), so the template has left the words "alternate name" visible instead. Could someone who knows how to edit templates remove it? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.197.139.41 (talk) 06:09, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Formatting problem

In the section on "Language", I see two problems with the formatting: 1) the text is too close to the box with the figures. 2) There is a lot of white/blank space after the text in this section. I don't know how to fix these problems. Perhaps someone can do that.CorinneSD (talk) 21:39, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

How does it look now? It is certainly an improvement. Hwy43 (talk) 05:55, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Wow! That's clever! I haven't seen that done (hiding a chart or table and letting the reader click on "Show" if he or she wants to see it) very often. It certainly looks neater, but I wonder whether there were not a way to show the table but with less white space below it than there was. Do you think the information in the table is not of great interest? I notice that it is from a 2006 census, and it is now 2014, so perhaps a little out of date. Also, I see that there is quite a bit of white space below or next to the tables in several other sections such as "Communities". I don't think the tables should be hidden. Perhaps they could be formatted in such a way that there is less white space below them. What do you think?CorinneSD (talk) 15:43, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

I believe I collapsed the table last night only because the image a couple subsections below was forcing whitespace and I didn't want to get into rearranging images throughout the article. The data should be updated to reflect the 2011 census results. I'm not sure how to wrap text around tables in a manner that resolves your first concern above. Perhaps you could inquire at Wikipedia:Help desk, Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions or Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Tables. Cheers, Hwy43 (talk) 18:27, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

• I've removed the auto-collapsing (still should be updated) on the table and stretched some stuff out to fill the whitespace and make the overall appearance better. I'm using a non-standard resolution on my screen, so what looks good to me might be horrible to others. I'll be watching and can adjust it further if you think it is needed. I'll look in a couple days on my laptop and a university computer which both use more normal resolutions. Technical 13 (talk) 00:39, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

(Edit conflict.)To: Technical 13: Thanks for your reply. With all due respect for your technical know-how, I don't think stretching that small table horizontally looks very good. I would put it back the way it was. Also, there is a lot of white space to the right of tables in the sections on "Ethnicity" and "First Nations". Isn't there any way to wrap the text around the tables? I would love to learn how to do that.CorinneSD (talk) 00:42, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

• The biggest problem is that there is a lack of text to fill in all the white space. I put Ethnicity back and I hadn't touched First Nations but have now made some adjustments to the formatting there to do what I think you are asking for. It's very specific html/css formatting and I really don't like leaving it like that. I'll do some research in the next few days to see if I can find a better way to do it. Anyways.. let me know if you like the way it is going or would like it to go another way. I'm going to bed for tonight, so my next reply won't be for ea few hours (I plan on sleeping in, it is Sunday after all... :P). Technical 13 (talk) 01:09, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

I've removed misplaced images that were getting in the way and introduced some columns to minimize whitespace. Not much we can do with the final communities table without any text. Hwy43 (talk) 07:09, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Check that. I've transcluded an updated table of municipalities to replace that table and included an image. Hwy43 (talk) 07:19, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

There seems to be some unnecessary white space between the two tables in the "Languages" section. The two tables seem far apart. Also, in the "First Nations" section, something is wrong with the table. There are thin lines (probably extensions of borders) sticking up and down, one at the lower left and one at the upper left, one column in. Also, I think the height of the rows is too small; the rows are too narrow (in height). I'm sorry – all I can do is tell you what it looks like. I don't know how to format.CorinneSD (talk) 18:03, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ In the First Nations section, I actually intentionally squished the lines. Otherwise the text only filled up about 60% of the height of the table leaving a big chunk of whitespace. This squishing can be adjusted by adjusting the "line-height: .9em;" at the top of the table. Corinne, keep in mind that this will look different for every user, and that white space you see between tables and whatnot may look crowded to others. I would suggest either removing some more of the images entirely or adding them in a gallery at the bottom of the page, this would make the amount of text and tables much more manageable. I believe that collapsing the tables is frowned upon per WP:COLLAPSE, if I've read it correctly, and we should try to avoid that. Technical 13 (talk) 18:25, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

O.K. I understand (about it looking different to different people because of differences in computer screen, etc.). I wonder how that table in "First Nations" would look if you widened it -- particularly the first and third columns. I notice that some of the lines of text were too long for the width of the column and so wrapped around and went to a second line of text in the cell. If you widen the first and third columns so that all text appears on only one line, then the table would be shorter top-to-bottom. Then you could either put the table under the text that now appears to the left of the table or leave it where it is but make the text be in a narrower space to the left of the table. I know how to do all this in Word but not here.CorinneSD (talk) 19:06, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

I've removed the style formatting applied to the table in question to show the resulting whitespace that will be generated. I prefer removal of the style formatting from the table. Hwy43 (talk) 19:41, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

• (edit conflict) Ahh... So that was what that edit conflict was about. I've modified it further, and think it looks okay this way on my screen now. How about both of you? Technical 13 (talk) 19:50, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

I like what Technical 13 just did. CorrineSD, moving forward, this is what Wikipedia help says about WP:WHITESPACE. Hwy43 (talk) 19:49, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

"First Nations" looks great now, both the text and the table! Is there any chance you could move the two tables in "Language" closer together? Thanks for the link, Hwy43.CorinneSD (talk) 22:20, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

If we move them closer together, it is only going to push the whitespace to the right of the right-most table. As every user has different browsers at different screen resolutions, I suggest the existing state is the best option. Hwy43 (talk) 22:25, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

O.K.CorinneSD (talk) 22:37, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

• Corinne, I've made a change to the Language that I hope suits your tastes. Technical 13 (talk) 00:07, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

It looks all right. Thank you.CorinneSD (talk) 00:13, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

It looked too cluttered. Hwy43 (talk) 00:20, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Further, sandwiching text is discouraged. MOS:SANDWICH states "Avoid sandwiching text between two images that face each other, and between an image and an infobox or similar." In this case, two tables are at play rather than two images or an image and another feature. Hwy43 (talk) 00:32, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

I was thinking that, too, but didn't want to complain any more.CorinneSD (talk) 00:38, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

• Corinne and Hwy43, I shuffled stuff around a bit more, and the prose is no longer sammiched between the tables and there is no 40% gap of whitespace between them either. I hope this is an okay compromise. :) Technical 13 (talk) 01:02, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Looks sloppy and remains sandwiched between table and right margin. Hwy43 (talk) 01:21, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Well, I think it looks better that it did before. May I make two suggestions?

1) I would put the text to the left of the two tables. It just seems more logical to have the text at the left.

2) I noticed that in the table on "First Nations linguistic groups by tribes/clans", there is some white space to the right of the text and figures in all the rows. Thus, the table, specifically the right side, could be moved in, and the table made narrower. That table looks rather large compared to the other table and the text. So, if these two changes are made, I think the section will look better.CorinneSD (talk) 21:09, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ The text pushed to the right of the two tables definitely has to go. It is counterintuitive. The first suggestion above would resolve the counterintuitive concern, though my other concerns and my preference with the two tables in just two columns remains. This seems like a lot of futile effort to minimize whitespace for a "combination of screen/window and font sizes, choice of browser, image settings, and so on" that may only be of benefit to a few editors. I'll leave it to you two to decide where to go from here. Hwy43 (talk) 08:23, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Template produces poor PDF (print) output

PDF output using Google Chrome's built-in distiller produces poor results with this page. (Use the Ctrl P command in Chrome to preview). Issue may be with the template used or (more likely) the the way content was entered (coded) into the template and saved by the contributor. For example, when printing this article with Google's PDF printer, the font size is scaled down too much, and the info-box column on the right side is scaled to less than 45% of the total page width. Note that the font size should not dynamically scale up or down to fit a page; font size of the main-body text content should be about 12 points on outputted PDF page(s); it is the images and table cells that should dynamically scale up or down to fit the info box and template in order to maintain the two-column Wikipedia layout. Refer to these Wikipedia articles for a proper printer-friendly layout -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwest_Territories https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nunavut Printchecker (talk) 19:16, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Official languages

Why aborigine languages don't have official status in Yukon, but in Northwest Territories have?--Kaiyr (talk) 10:57, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

External links modified

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