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This page is to nominate fresh articles to appear in the "Did you know" section on the Main Page with a "hook" (an interesting note). Nominations that have been approved are moved to a staging area and then promoted into the Queue. To update this page, it.
Count of DYK Hooks | ||
Section | # of Hooks | # Verified |
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January 31 | 2 | 1 |
February 4 | 1 | |
February 9 | 1 | |
February 12 | 1 | |
February 14 | 1 | 1 |
February 16 | 1 | |
February 19 | 2 | 2 |
February 22 | 1 | |
February 24 | 1 | |
February 25 | 1 | |
March 1 | 1 | |
March 2 | 1 | |
March 3 | 1 | |
March 5 | 2 | |
March 6 | 4 | |
March 7 | 2 | 2 |
March 8 | 1 | 1 |
March 9 | 2 | 1 |
March 10 | 1 | |
March 12 | 2 | 1 |
March 13 | 2 | 2 |
March 14 | 3 | 2 |
March 15 | 4 | 1 |
March 16 | 1 | |
March 17 | 3 | 2 |
March 18 | 3 | 3 |
March 19 | 2 | 2 |
March 20 | 4 | 2 |
March 21 | 2 | |
March 22 | 2 | 1 |
March 24 | 4 | 4 |
March 25 | 6 | 5 |
March 26 | 3 | 1 |
March 27 | 5 | 3 |
March 28 | 2 | 2 |
March 29 | 4 | 3 |
March 30 | 7 | 5 |
March 31 | 4 | 3 |
April 1 | 3 | 2 |
April 2 | 6 | 3 |
April 3 | 6 | 4 |
April 4 | 9 | 6 |
April 5 | 7 | 4 |
April 6 | 9 | 5 |
April 7 | 10 | 3 |
April 8 | 7 | 3 |
April 9 | 8 | 3 |
April 10 | 9 | 5 |
April 11 | 7 | 1 |
April 12 | 7 | 6 |
April 13 | 3 | |
April 14 | 7 | 1 |
April 15 | 11 | 1 |
April 16 | 6 | 3 |
April 17 | 5 | |
April 18 | 5 | 4 |
April 19 | 2 | |
April 20 | 5 | 2 |
April 21 | 5 | 1 |
April 22 | ||
Total | 227 | 107 |
Last updated 03:54, 22 April 2023 UTC Current time is 04:05, 22 April 2023 UTC [refresh] |
Instructions for nominators[edit]
If this is your first nomination, please read the DYK rules before continuing.
Further information: Official supplementary guidelines and unofficial guide
Frequently asked questions[edit]
How do I write an interesting hook?
Successful hooks tend to have several traits. Most importantly, they share a surprising or intriguing fact. They give readers enough context to understand the hook, but leave enough out to make them want to learn more. They are written for a general audience who has no prior knowledge of or interest in the topic area. Lastly, they are concise, and do not attempt to cover multiple facts or present information about the subject beyond what's needed to understand the hook.
When will my nomination be reviewed?
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Where is my hook?
If you can't find the nomination you submitted to this nominations page, it may have been approved and is on the approved nominations page waiting to be promoted. It could also have been added to one of the prep areas, promoted from prep to a queue, or is on the main page.
If the nominated hook is in none of those places, then the nomination has probably been rejected. Such a rejection usually only occurs if it was at least a couple of weeks old and had unresolved issues for which any discussion had gone stale. If you think your nomination was unfairly rejected, you can query this on the DYK discussion page, but as a general rule such nominations will only be restored in exceptional circumstances.
Instructions for reviewers[edit]
Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, suggest new hooks, or even lend a hand and make edits to the article to which the hook applies so that the hook is supported and accurate. For a more detailed discussion of the DYK rules and review process see the supplementary guidelines and the WP:Did you know/Reviewing guide.
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Advanced procedures[edit]
How to promote an accepted hook[edit]
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How to remove a rejected hook[edit]
- Open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to remove. (It's best to wait several days after a reviewer has rejected the hook, just in case someone contests or the article undergoes a large change.)
- In the window where the DYK nomination subpage is open, replace the line
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. Then save the page. This has the effect of wrapping up the discussion on the DYK nomination subpage in a blue archive box and stating that the nomination was unsuccessful, as well as adding the nomination to a category for archival purposes.
How to remove a hook from the prep areas or queue[edit]
- Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
- Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there should have been a link to it in the credits section).
- View the edit history for that page
- Go back to the last version before the edit where the hook was promoted, and revert to that version to make the nomination active again.
- Add a new icon on the nomination subpage to cancel the previous tick and leave a comment after it explaining that the hook was removed from the prep area or queue, and why, so that later reviewers are aware of this issue.
- Add a transclusion of the template back to this page so that reviewers can see it. It goes under the date that it was first created/expanded/listed as a GA. You may need to add back the day header for that date if it had been removed from this page.
- If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.
How to move a nomination subpage to a new name[edit]
- Don't; it should not ever be necessary, and will break some links which will later need to be repaired. Even if you change the title of the article, you don't need to move the nomination page.
Nominations[edit]
Older nominations[edit]
Articles created/expanded on January 31[edit]
Powell Marsh Wildlife Area
- ... that water control structures built in the Powell Marsh Wildlife Area introduced iron floc to a downstream lake? Source: https://www.wxpr.org/news/2021-09-23/the-fight-continues-slimy-water-dam-disagreements-and-politics-on-dead-pike-lake
- ALT1: ... that the Powell Marsh Wildlife Area is partially managed by the Lac du Flambeau Band of Lake Superior Chippewa? Source: https://dnr.wisconsin.gov/topic/Fishing/ceded
- ALT2: ... that water control structures built in the Powell Marsh Wildlife Area polluted a downstream lake? Source: https://www.wxpr.org/news/2021-09-23/the-fight-continues-slimy-water-dam-disagreements-and-politics-on-dead-pike-lake
- Reviewed:
- Comment: The image caption can probably be changed to something that fits better. I also prefer the first hook, but I am sure there is a better way to word it.
Created by Heeps of Wiki (talk). Self-nominated at 15:32, 31 January 2023 (UTC). Note: As of October 2022, all changes made to promoted hooks will be logged by a bot. The log for this nomination can be found at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Powell Marsh Wildlife Area, so please watch a successfully closed nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- Full review to follow, but I'm not really a fan of either hook. The second just isn't intriguing in a "hooky" way, while the first hook seems a bit technical; in particular, it mentions "flocs", which is a term readers may not know. Perhaps different hooks can be proposed here? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:08, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
- I agree that the second hook is not the best, perhaps the third one is a bit better? I think it's a bit less technical and gets the point across in a hookier way. Thank you for your time. Heeps of Wiki (talk) 14:39, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
- ALT2 is okay, but it doesn't seem to be explicitly mentioned in the article? The water becoming polluted that is. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:51, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Heeps of Wiki: status report? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 10:08, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- Apologies for the late response, I didn't get a ping for this page for some reason. In the referenced article, there is this quote: Lake proponents say the water pressure in the manufactured wetland forces groundwater, rich in iron, into Dead Pike Lake. Rip out the infrastructure, return the marsh to its natural form, and Dead Pike Lake will be saved, they say. “This lake represents an opportunity for people to get a sense of what a pristine northern Wisconsin lake still can look like. But they’re polluting it,” said Wolf. “Our own Department of Natural Resources has contributed significantly to environmental damage and to the loss of property rights for the citizenry that’s here.” Heeps of Wiki (talk) 16:01, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Heeps of Wiki: status report? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 10:08, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- ALT2 is okay, but it doesn't seem to be explicitly mentioned in the article? The water becoming polluted that is. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:51, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you, but the article doesn't seem to have been edited in a while and my original concern remains unaddressed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:19, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- The article hasn't been updated in a while because I am not sure what to fix. I misconstrued your earlier comment which asked where the statement was in the article, I assumed you meant in the reference. But either way, in the Powell Marsh Wildlife Area article, there is prose in the Dead Pike Lake section that I feel adequately mentions the polluting of the water, and the source of said pollution. If this does not assuage your concerns, let me know how I can best rectify the problem. I would also love to hear some other feedback for the article. Heeps of Wiki (talk) 13:12, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- Oh I apologize for that. I got confused by the article since I was looking for which downstream lake exactly was being polluted. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:59, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- All good, do you think it would be helpful to name the lake being polluted? I wasn't sure if I should as I wanted to try to be concise. Heeps of Wiki (talk) 14:18, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- In the hook? No need if it doesn't have a separate article. I could however suggest that it be mentioned in the lede. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:16, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
- All good, do you think it would be helpful to name the lake being polluted? I wasn't sure if I should as I wanted to try to be concise. Heeps of Wiki (talk) 14:18, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Oh I apologize for that. I got confused by the article since I was looking for which downstream lake exactly was being polluted. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:59, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- The article hasn't been updated in a while because I am not sure what to fix. I misconstrued your earlier comment which asked where the statement was in the article, I assumed you meant in the reference. But either way, in the Powell Marsh Wildlife Area article, there is prose in the Dead Pike Lake section that I feel adequately mentions the polluting of the water, and the source of said pollution. If this does not assuage your concerns, let me know how I can best rectify the problem. I would also love to hear some other feedback for the article. Heeps of Wiki (talk) 13:12, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you, but the article doesn't seem to have been edited in a while and my original concern remains unaddressed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:19, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
@Heeps of Wiki and Narutolovehinata5: status report? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 20:44, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- I'd really like the concern I raised above to be addressed, but I have to admit that due to real-life matters I've largely lost interest in this nomination and would like to ask for another reviewer to take over. I apologize for holding up this nomination: it wasn't my intention. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:07, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for your help. I have addressed your earlier concerns. Heeps of Wiki (talk) 14:08, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- New enough and long enough (no QPQ needed). I have not spot-checked sources yet, because quite a few areas are not clearly sourced. They should be sourced or removed. Regarding the hooks, I agree ALT0 and ALT1 aren't great. ALT2 has potential, but I think the Dead Pike Lake section needs some copyediting to make clear which parts are talking about that lake, and which parts are talking about the Powell Marsh Wildlife Area. A hook on the decoy geese might also be worth considering. As a final note, a couple of sources lack access-dates, which are among the more critical of the source fields. CMD (talk) 12:47, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
- I have added access-dates to all remaining sources, they were removed when I added some new sources and I forgot to add them back. I have also worked a bit on clarifying what exactly I am talking about in the Dead Pike Lake section, and I am going to clearly source stuff that can be sourced within the next few hours or so. As for an ALT3, I can think about it, but if you have any suggestions I would love to hear them. Heeps of Wiki (talk) 16:44, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
- New enough and long enough (no QPQ needed). I have not spot-checked sources yet, because quite a few areas are not clearly sourced. They should be sourced or removed. Regarding the hooks, I agree ALT0 and ALT1 aren't great. ALT2 has potential, but I think the Dead Pike Lake section needs some copyediting to make clear which parts are talking about that lake, and which parts are talking about the Powell Marsh Wildlife Area. A hook on the decoy geese might also be worth considering. As a final note, a couple of sources lack access-dates, which are among the more critical of the source fields. CMD (talk) 12:47, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for your help. I have addressed your earlier concerns. Heeps of Wiki (talk) 14:08, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 4[edit]
Sara Gadalla Gubara
- ... that despite her physical disability, Sara Gadalla Gubara came third in a 50 km mixed-sex national swimming event in 1972? Source: newspaper shout
UNCIF- Reviewed:
Created by FuzzyMagma (talk). Self-nominated at 02:00, 4 February 2023 (UTC). Note: As of October 2022, all changes made to promoted hooks will be logged by a bot. The log for this nomination can be found at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Sarah Gadallah Gubara, so please watch a successfully closed nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.
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QPQ: - not needed
Overall: As clever as this hook is, I'm afraid that the source of the hook https://www.assayha.net/ is reliable or not. I'm not sure if https://www.unicef.org/ can be used as a source at the DYK. Please explain the source's reliability. Taung Tan (talk) 18:26, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
Taung Tan newspaper shout is a respected Sudanese newspaper although it is diffcult to prove this. There are some news excerpts from around that time but it is in arabic so I am not sure who much I am stretching your kidness, and a picture for the winners (she is next to the guy in the front with glasses . There are other sources including France24 eluded to that + The UNICEF also talk about the race + Sudan Jorunal but not in details, there is a detailed account at Alarabya, a online blog written by a Sudanese historian, Sara's TEDxTalk and nationl TV interview which includes some images. I hope on of these stick.
- It qualified for approval after I reviewed the sources. So it's good to go. Taung Tan (talk) 19:03, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- Taung Tan, in which case you may wish to change "cited" to yes. Gog the Mild (talk) 19:42, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Gog the Mild and Taung Tan: I should let y'all know that in general, it's best to leave initial reviews as-is, so that promoters know what went down at a glance when trying to close up a nom. Many thanks! theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 10:00, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
- Taung Tan, in which case you may wish to change "cited" to yes. Gog the Mild (talk) 19:42, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- FuzzyMagma and Taung Tan, earwig picked up a sentence in the article that appears to be virtually the same as one in the cited source. the source is dated 2010, while the wikipedia article was recently created.
article: | Her documentary film The Lover of Light (2004) is both a metaphor for Gadalla Gubara and for his interest in bringing social issues to light through filmmaking. | |
source: | Sara's film The Lover of Light (2004) is both a metaphor of Gadalla Gubara and of his interest in bringing social issues to light through filmmaking. |
- also, although there aren't many english sources, i picked one of them at random, and it doesn't seem to support the text for which it is cited. the source is used following a paragraph covering gadalla gubara's tertiary education, but the source doesn't seem to mention her tertiary education at all. i admittedly stopped checking sources after that. dying (talk) 20:30, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Dying:, the sentence was taken from Cinema of Sudan (before ref 23). I have now rephrased it. Reference 19, was also copied over from the lede of Gadalla Gubara, ref. 2 (also indicated in the edit). I should have checked, and sorry for not doing that. I have now moved to where it belongs, near ref (26). It is now being replaced by Ref. 10, 6, and 19 — Preceding unsigned comment added by FuzzyMagma (talk • contribs)
- FuzzyMagma, that is good to know. thank you for clearing that up. (by the way, the title of the documentary should have remained in italics when you were rephrasing the sentence mentioned above, as placing the title in italics is not a personal decision, but a general english standard. more details regarding how wikipedia treats titles of works can be found at mos:title. Done FuzzyMagma (talk) 12:00, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
- unfortunately, i am now also worried about the quality of the sources provided. i decided to take a look at the arabic sources, and the first one i looked at, the sudaneseonline source, appears to be a message board, which is not a reliable source.
depends on who wrote it? not all sources are BBC and NYT. I mentioned above who wrote it and why I think it can be seen as reliable. anyway can be removed if contested further
FuzzyMagma (talk) 12:00, 5 March 2023 (UTC) - admittedly, i stopped looking at arabic sources after that. i also noticed that the article was originally translated from ar wikipedia. as i am not fluent in arabic, i cannot competently check for copyright violations or instances of close paraphrasing with regard to the arabic sources, which may have existed in the ar wikipedia article before you translated it.
I am not sure casting doubts without an evidence is a good thing as it can be easily interrupted as assuming bad faith. Please either give evidence to your claims or refrain from being too hypothetical
FuzzyMagma (talk) 12:00, 5 March 2023 (UTC) - due to these issues, i do not feel comfortable promoting this hook at this time.
your opinion is noted, and again can be easily amended - at least the point were you provided a ground for doubts. anyhow there is already an endorsement and a DYK check above
FuzzyMagma (talk) 12:00, 5 March 2023 (UTC) - anyone else is free to promote this hook if they are confident enough in the quality of the hook and the article,
you did not mention anything about the hook itself in your argument, so I am not sure why now you are mentioning the quality of the hook
FuzzyMagma (talk) 12:00, 5 March 2023 (UTC) - or request a more in-depth review if they believe it is warranted. i do want to see this article promoted, as i had initially looked over this nomination intending to promote it, but i don't think i am competent enough to give this nomination a proper review. dying (talk) 11:39, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Dying: in-line response FuzzyMagma (talk) 12:07, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
- Needs further review by new reviewer per discussion above. Cielquiparle (talk) 12:37, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Dying: in-line response FuzzyMagma (talk) 12:07, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Dying:, the sentence was taken from Cinema of Sudan (before ref 23). I have now rephrased it. Reference 19, was also copied over from the lede of Gadalla Gubara, ref. 2 (also indicated in the edit). I should have checked, and sorry for not doing that. I have now moved to where it belongs, near ref (26). It is now being replaced by Ref. 10, 6, and 19 — Preceding unsigned comment added by FuzzyMagma (talk • contribs)
- I came by hoping to review this, but I lack the expertise. We may need help from a native Arabic speaker (who is not the nominator). There are too many things in the grey area here; source quality, close paraphrasing, and verifiability on a lot of sources are borderline. I did spot-check a couple of English refs, and found no verifiability issues; but conversely, the sudaneseonline source and the blogspot source are plain unnacceptable, and need to be removed. Vanamonde (Talk) 22:22, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Vanamonde93: What we're looking at here is rule 4.b at WP:DYKCRIT as the hook and article passed other rules (correct me if I am wrong)
- (1) for the sudaneseonline, I mentioned above it is not about being a blog, it is about who wrote it as you need to adjust Wikipedia:Verifiability for Global South regions where the Western media coverage about them is conflict-related. BUT even if you do not agree, the blog has images that verifies whatever is written and were it was cited in the article, for example, the image for 1975 Beijing race
- (2) I removed the infromation from the blog post as most of the infromation was also included in an published article by the same author.
- (3) for other source quality issues please let me know
- (4) for the arabic sources, I assume you can machine translate the page to have a rough idea or tage a native arabic speaker if you know one
- (5) close paraphrasing: did not understand the earlier reviewer hypothesis and now you are repeating the same line with nothing to backup the claim. Anyway, I cannot amend the article for this hypothesis, give more to work with to get this article through. Thanks FuzzyMagma (talk) 13:31, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- I said explicitly that I'm not going to do a full review, so there's not much point in asking me for other issues. However, the message board source needs to go: it does not even come close to meeting our criteria for reliable sources. Yes, we can accept SPS from experts; but who wrote this? And how do we even know who did? It's functionally anonymous. We do not relax WP:V; it's a core policy. Vanamonde (Talk) 17:46, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- And I didn’t asked to . I’m refuting you assertion, regardless if you made them part of a full review or not (maybe you should have done before posting them). Anyway, I already replied to the point of SLS, and don’t wish to repeat myself since your response does not address what I have highlighted especially what I’ve said after the word “BUT”.
- not sure what message board you’re talking about
- Plus, There is a reason why I have put my reply into bulletin as not confuse what is contested and what is ‘’hypothetical’’ so I’d appreciate a reply that fellows suit .. thnx FuzzyMagma (talk) 21:12, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- I said explicitly that I'm not going to do a full review, so there's not much point in asking me for other issues. However, the message board source needs to go: it does not even come close to meeting our criteria for reliable sources. Yes, we can accept SPS from experts; but who wrote this? And how do we even know who did? It's functionally anonymous. We do not relax WP:V; it's a core policy. Vanamonde (Talk) 17:46, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Vanamonde93: What we're looking at here is rule 4.b at WP:DYKCRIT as the hook and article passed other rules (correct me if I am wrong)
Articles created/expanded on February 9[edit]
Mark Hunter (photographer)
- ... that Mark Hunter, known as The Cobrasnake, started “one of the earliest and most impactful social photography sites” according to Vogue? Source: “ Hunter’s blog, which was one of the earliest and most impactful social photography sites of its kind, offered anyone with an internet connection unprecedented access into the blossoming hipster subculture: an intoxicating–and intoxicate” Vogue
Created by Thriley (talk). Self-nominated at 04:45, 17 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Mark Hunter (photographer); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- Would it be possible for someone crop the image I included in the nomination? I think it’s great, but wouldn’t stand out on the front page as it is. Thriley (talk) 04:52, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
- New (moved from draftspace Feb 9) and long enough. Mostly well written and sourced; some notes are below. Unable to load Earwig, but don't expect any issues there. QPQ present.
Here are a few suggestions: The lede could use another sentence explaining what Hunter is known for, and move the birth date to just after "Mark Hunter". Add birth date and age to infobox. Fill in some bare link citations. Uncurl quotation marks. The sentence "It allowed anyone on the internet to have access" is hyperbolic; maybe put this in Vogue's voice (as in "Vogue argues that it allowed anyone on the internet to view ..." or similar). Some lingering q's: What did Hunter change the name of his website to? Relevance of the Kennedy paragraph? Why put one sentence about Hunter's book under its own heading?
Not sure about the photo ... I see that it was uploaded by a new account (presumably Hunter), but it cannot be "Own work" because Hunter is the subject of the photo and not the photographer.
The current hook doesn't grab me. My current thought is something zany like
- ALT1: ... that the Cobrasnake snapped stars?
- but would love to hear any other suggestions. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 19:27, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Thriley: Hi, just checking in two weeks later. I realize I wrote a fairly long list of things to do. The only important ones for DYK are about neutrality and completeness - revising "It allowed anyone on the internet to have access ..." and clarifying a few things that are labeled "lingering q's" above. I can do any remaining copyediting after that. And please suggest a new hook, since I'm not supposed to approve one of my own. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 14:50, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you. I’m going to shortly fix up the article and come up with a new hook. Thriley (talk) 20:05, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Thriley: ping to remind you of this nom – can the issues be fixed within a week? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 20:49, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron: Yes! I’ll fix it up a bit more and add a new hook or two. What do you think about the photo? Thriley (talk) 03:18, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- Don't love it? It doesn't seem like Hunter was prepared for that photo, it looks more like a fan snapped something on their camera while he was walking out of an event. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 16:29, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron: Yes! I’ll fix it up a bit more and add a new hook or two. What do you think about the photo? Thriley (talk) 03:18, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Thriley: ping to remind you of this nom – can the issues be fixed within a week? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 20:49, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 12[edit]
Women and bicycling in Islam
- ... that feminist activists' struggles for liberation, like those of Fatma Aliye Topuz (pictured), were helped along by the bicycle? Source: Raab Alon, Women cycling in the Middle East url=https://www.taylorfrancis.com/chapters/edit/10.4324/9781003142041-52/wheels-fire-alon-raab work=Routledge Companion to Cycling doi=10.4324/9781003142041-52/wheels-fire-alon-raab
- ALT1: ... that in May 2008, Queen Rania Al Abdullah of Jordan along with Syrian first lady Asma Akras Al Asad took part in a cycle ride for peace from Beirut to Bethlehem? Source: Madden, Steve, ed. (August 2008). "Pedaling for peace". Bicycling. Vol. 44, No. 7. USA: Rodale Inc. p. 34. ISSN 0006-2073.
- ALT2: ... that Saudi Arabian and Iranian movies Wadjda and The Day I Became a Woman use bicycle as metaphor for independence? Source:Bennett, Bruce (2022-10-31), "Cycling and cinema", Routledge Companion to Cycling, London: Routledge, pp. 28, 115, ISBN 978-1-003-14204-1, retrieved 2023-02-13
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Södermanland Runic Inscription 113
- Comment: Counting of expanded characters is too technical for me. But the article has been rejuvenated quite a fresh in last 4 days. If fails the 5 times expansion criteria please let me know I shall withdraw the nomination.
5x expanded by LegalSmeagolian (talk) and Bookku (talk). Nominated by Bookku (talk) at 17:32, 12 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Bicycling in Islam; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- The first DYK source is accessed by request from WP:REREQ quote is included in the article citation that shall help verification, rest of the 2 DYKs were accessed from Google books. Bookku (talk) 12:19, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
- @LegalSmeagolian and Bookku: Could you please explain how you arrived at 5x expansion? I am not able to replicate your calculations using the DYK tool, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's wrong. (If the article is eligible, I would like to have the article run on International Women's Day if possible...but I do have a few very specific comments about things to fix first.) Cielquiparle (talk) 16:22, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Cielquiparle: Sorry I am not technical enough for exact counting. But we rescued article from AFD claims, renamed and almost WP:TNT new start over. In number of sentences terms we may have retained at the most five sentences from version prior to 7 Feb, We added almost 30 new sentences. If you do not count bibliography part then new sentences are 5 times. Bibliography too was added by me in December.
- Article is new enough (expansion began on February 7 and was submitted on February 12). Although the way in which the 5x expansion was calculated did not, strictly speaking, adhere to the rules, based on the explanation given above, I see that the "original" article had 620 characters (105 words) of "salvageable prose" and by February 12, it had expanded to 4,795 characters (777 words). (The article is now at 5,786 characters (948 words) of prose.) On this basis, we can say that the article is long enough (expanded more than 5 times), and I would just ask that next time, you read the rules and install the DYK check tool so there is no uncertainty or confusion. (Basically, it's cleaner to delete all the prose you are not planning to keep, the day before you start expanding.) The article is well sourced throughout, with inline citations, and a lot of care has gone into trying to maintain a detached and neutral tone about a very sensitive and controversial subject. Earwig says copyvio is unlikely, although I do have one immediate concern which I will explain below. The QPQ is done. ALT0 is OK. So what is left is to discuss the other hooks and address some related issues:
- 1) Please minimize the text quoted in Footnote 2 (the Raab chapter). It is too long and will raise flags down the line. I understand maybe you just included it to help the DYK reviewer, but we don't need it anymore, so please only include 2 to 3 key sentences at most.
- 2) ALT1 is not approved, as I was unable to verify this fact based on the source. While it's fine to just discard the hook if you don't want to fix it, the corresponding claim in the article still needs to be fixed. The original text (which is easily accessed through Wikipedia Library) says
Follow the Women bike tour (followthewomen.com), from Beirut, Lebanon, to the Palestinian city of Bethlehem. The cyclists, whose ranks included women in long sleeves and head scarves, and women who'd learned to ride just to join the trip, rode with queen Rania Al-Abdullah of Jordan as well as Syrian first lady Asma Akhras Al-Assad, crossed the Jordan River (which was neither deep nor wide, they reported), shared meals with locals and visited refugee camps... Many of the Arab women ended their ride early...
The reason I object to the current wording of ALT1 is that it makes it sound like both Queen Rania and First Lady Asma al-Assad rode together all the way from Beirut to Bethlehem, when in fact, based on other sources it sounds like they probably only joined a portion of the ride, because as ride sponsors, they were also responsible for hosting and officially receiving the cyclists. I would advise either finding a reliable source that explains their role a bit more clearly and modifying the article accordingly, or simplifying the sentence in the article so that it sticks closer to what the "Pedaling for Peace" article actually says (that the Rania and Asma "rode with" the women, without implying they both rode with the women the whole way). - 3) In ALT2, the word "powerful" sounds non-neutral in wikivoice, so it needs to be reworded somehow – e.g. simply striking the word "powerful" out, or using wording to make it clear that there is a specific scholar you are naming in the article who says it's a "powerful metaphor" (e.g. "is viewed as a powerful metaphor...").
- If you could please address these issues ASAP, I am happy to approve the hook for DYK. Many thanks for your hard work in rethinking and reworking this insightful article following the AfD discussion. Cielquiparle (talk) 19:43, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
- Pinging @Bookku:. (Also edited my own copy above.) Cielquiparle (talk) 19:49, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Cielquiparle Many thanks for valuable inputs. We shall ping you as we accomplish suggested improvements. Although Alt1 and Alt2 are not must- in the article and in DYKs too I have tried to present diversity across regions in Muslim women's cycling practices and there by avoiding stereotype.
- 1) I have trimmed ref note a bit, I am also contemplating to split in feminist view and orthodox view and look for further scope of trimming as required.
- 2) For Alt1 I shall request @LegalSmeagolian and Ipigott: to help out to avoid grammar mistakes from my side when article is soon about to go for DYK. I suppose for Alt1 more sources may be available in Jordan and Syrian Arabic news media, but availability of such sources shall take it's own time.
- 3) About Alt2 metaphor of cycle in photographs has been discussed by author Raab too but without using word metaphor. Besides both the movies have been explored favorably by multiple academic authors though I could not spare enough time on all of those. I am removing word 'powerful' from 'powerful metaphor' as of now as suggested. Idk if word 'substantial' will be enough for toning down.
- Just now saving in bit of hurry. I shall work further a little while later.
- Bookku (talk) 05:08, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Bookku: Thanks for your response. Cielquiparle (talk) 13:01, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
- Approving ALT0, ALT1, and ALT2. The current wordings of both ALT1 and ALT2 have been amended slightly to address concerns raised earlier (ALT1 says "took part in" instead of "took"; the word "powerful" has been removed from ALT2). The direct quote in the footnote has been split and shortened (though it could be shortened more, it is better than before). Additional sources and content have been added re: the Follow the Women bike tour. Happy to have this promoted for International Women's Day (8 March 2023, Prep Area 1) if possible. Cielquiparle (talk) 13:01, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Bookku: Thanks for your response. Cielquiparle (talk) 13:01, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
- Bookku (talk) 05:08, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
- I've unpromoted this due to multiple issues discussed at
WP:DYK#Bicycling in IslamWT:DYK#Bicycling in Islam and Talk:Bicycling in Islam and the dispute tags added to the article. -- RoySmith (talk) 17:04, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
- @RoySmith, the link created by you seem to go some where else. I suppose that needs to be WT:DYK#Bicycling in Islam Bookku (talk) 06:29, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
- Yeah, my bad. The WT link is the correct one, thanks. -- RoySmith (talk) 13:59, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
- This is just for record. I had discussed my views on some of the concerns expressed @ User talk:RoySmith/Archive 52#To clear the air. To be editorially neutral I will take their relevant concerns on article talk page for discussion after present round of article update by other users. Bookku (talk) 07:57, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- Update. Picking this back up now (working on article). Please don't close this nomination. Cielquiparle (talk) 17:32, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Cielquiparle: any progress? BorgQueen (talk) 11:14, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- Update. Picking this back up now (working on article). Please don't close this nomination. Cielquiparle (talk) 17:32, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
- This is just for record. I had discussed my views on some of the concerns expressed @ User talk:RoySmith/Archive 52#To clear the air. To be editorially neutral I will take their relevant concerns on article talk page for discussion after present round of article update by other users. Bookku (talk) 07:57, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- Yeah, my bad. The WT link is the correct one, thanks. -- RoySmith (talk) 13:59, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
- @RoySmith, the link created by you seem to go some where else. I suppose that needs to be WT:DYK#Bicycling in Islam Bookku (talk) 06:29, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 14[edit]
Articles created/expanded on February 16[edit]
Proposed new South Shore Line station in South Bend
... that there are many proposals to build a new station in South Bend, Indiana for the South Shore Line?Source: Many in the article
Improved to Good Article status by SecretName101 (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 15:26, 16 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Proposed new South Shore Line station in South Bend; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- The hook doesn't sound all that interesting to me. Perhaps you should mention how long the proposals have been going on for. The article mentions that there were plans to relocate the station since 2006, an environmental study in 2008, and a financial estimate in 2013. Perhaps:
- @Onegreatjoke: @SecretName101: Sorry, forgot to ping. PizzaKing13 ¡Hablame! 00:46, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- @PizzaKing13: We can do ALT2: "... that there have been many proposals for a new station at South Bend, Indiana for the South Shore Line since 2006? Onegreatjoke (talk) 20:06, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- ALT2 looks good to me. New enough GA, long enough, hook is interesting, neutral, sourced, no copyright vios. PizzaKing13 ¡Hablame! 20:46, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- @PizzaKing13: We can do ALT2: "... that there have been many proposals for a new station at South Bend, Indiana for the South Shore Line since 2006? Onegreatjoke (talk) 20:06, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
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Overall: PizzaKing13 ¡Hablame! 06:02, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Onegreatjoke: Quite frankly this article seems WP:TOOSOON for publication on the main page, even if it would survive AfD. Maybe we could revisit as a "new" article for DYK when the station is [closer to being] finally built? Cielquiparle (talk) 09:37, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
- I respectfully disagree, Cielquiparle. If it's a notable topic (i.e. has an article that would, if challenged, survive AfD; and if you think that it wouldn't survive AfD, then please nominate it) and has an interesting hook (which, in my view, it has in ALT2), then there's nothing stopping this from going to the Main Page as a DYK. And under what criterion would it possibly become eligible at some point in the future, given that it won't then be new, newly expanded, or recently approved for GA? AGF tick based on the review above. Schwede66 18:59, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Schwede66: I defer to your judgment, but what I meant is that it would make a better DYK submission as a new article if/when the South Bend Station is built. IMO, the article as it stands now could be interpreted as promoting a political cause. There are a lot of public infrastructure projects that have been proposed and debated over the years; is it really the role of Wikipedia and DYK to promote the completion of one, and to cover each and every single local political debate and dispute over public transit? Cielquiparle (talk) 19:15, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Onegreatjoke: It seems the nomination is "valid", in which case the onus is on you or SecretName101 to propose a better hook, as the current hooks are not interesting to a broad audience per DYK Rule #3a:
likely to be perceived as unusual or intriguing by readers with no special knowledge or interest.
My suggestion would be to mention Pete Buttigieg – as a broader audience has heard of him as DoT secretary and former presidential candidate. Cielquiparle (talk) 20:57, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
- Maybe something like, "for the several years, Northern Indiana officials have been debating where to locate a proposed new South Shore Line station in South Bend". SecretName101 (talk) 21:24, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
- Or maybe: an early foray into transit policy for Secretary of Transportation Pete Buttigieg was exploring where to locate the proposed new South Shore Line station in South Bend during his mayoralty. SecretName101 (talk) 21:26, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
@Cielquiparle: Does that latter one seem good? SecretName101 (talk) 21:28, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
- @SecretName101: Too wordy for a hook so here's one shorter version:
- ALT4a: ... that before becoming United States transportation secretary, "Mayor Pete" advocated a proposed new South Shore Line station in South Bend?
- Pinging PizzaKing13 for possible review of ALT hooks or further input. Cielquiparle (talk) 23:32, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
- Just a comment. ALT4a is a fine hook indeed and certainly better than ALT2. Schwede66 01:55, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
- ALT4a looks good to me PizzaKing13 ¡Hablame! 03:04, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
- Restoring the tick just to save everyone some back and forth, given that PizzaKing13 has approved ALT4a. Cielquiparle (talk) 08:41, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
- ALT4a looks good to me PizzaKing13 ¡Hablame! 03:04, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
- @SecretName101: Too wordy for a hook so here's one shorter version:
- Ineligible for now. BorgQueen (talk) 03:39, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
- If a GA review isn't begun by the end of the month, though, we should close. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 20:52, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 22[edit]
African Space Agency
- ... that the African Union has set up a space agency in a space city? Source: [1]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Jailangkung
- Comment:
Created by Chipmunkdavis (talk). Self-nominated at 12:30, 23 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/African Space Agency; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
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- Adequate sourcing:
- Neutral: - There's more than one source with the title "Is there a need for an African space agency?". This one, for example, concludes that there isn't. This negative view is not presented in the article.
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
Hook eligibility:
- Cited:
- Interesting:
- Other problems: - The hook teases with its talk of a space city. The reader is likely to be disappointed that the article has a red link for this. Perhaps this should be unlinked and the section expanded to give them more details of the space city.
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Overall: The biggest issue is balance as there seems to be plenty of negative opinion out there. Also, I'm not understanding the reference to Jailangkung in the nominator's comment. Andrew🐉(talk) 20:53, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry, that was the QPQ, I must have put it in the wrong box. Regarding neutrality, those are older articles of the sort of discussion that always precedes the creation of any body (is it necessary, what would it do, etc.). The opposition was the same as it always is for these projects, money better elsewhere, another white elephant sort of thing. I don't see that as due. I also haven't put any positive opinion in. In both cases, as the org was just founded, there isn't much actually behind it either way (well, a delay of opening from 2022 to 2023, but again that is reasonably routine and I haven't seen any source call it out). On the Space City, it's a newly built complex that also holds the Egyptian Space Agency. I can add more to this article, and alternatively I suppose an article could be created for it; I thought it worth a red link although I'm not 100% on how notability for that sort of infrastructure development. CMD (talk) 00:06, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
- I wondered if Jailangkung was the QPQ but didn't recognise your abbreviated sig of CMD there. I've updated the review now to acknowledge this.
- But I'm still not content with the other issues. I'll look at the topic more closely myself.
- Andrew🐉(talk) 17:34, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
- I have found a second source noting a different person with a similar concern over prioritisation from before the agency was founded, so I have added that citing both that source (in a CNN report) and Martinez 2012. I also found two sources noting a slowdown in 2020 due to budget and benefit concerns, and so added that as well. CMD (talk) 15:01, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Andrew Davidson: status report? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 20:57, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- I have found a second source noting a different person with a similar concern over prioritisation from before the agency was founded, so I have added that citing both that source (in a CNN report) and Martinez 2012. I also found two sources noting a slowdown in 2020 due to budget and benefit concerns, and so added that as well. CMD (talk) 15:01, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry, that was the QPQ, I must have put it in the wrong box. Regarding neutrality, those are older articles of the sort of discussion that always precedes the creation of any body (is it necessary, what would it do, etc.). The opposition was the same as it always is for these projects, money better elsewhere, another white elephant sort of thing. I don't see that as due. I also haven't put any positive opinion in. In both cases, as the org was just founded, there isn't much actually behind it either way (well, a delay of opening from 2022 to 2023, but again that is reasonably routine and I haven't seen any source call it out). On the Space City, it's a newly built complex that also holds the Egyptian Space Agency. I can add more to this article, and alternatively I suppose an article could be created for it; I thought it worth a red link although I'm not 100% on how notability for that sort of infrastructure development. CMD (talk) 00:06, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 24[edit]
Monster Max
- ... that a Game Boy-released isometric action-adventure game was called by critics the closest in quality to and even greater than The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening? Source: GB Action review: "I for one hope everybody believes me when I say this is lengths ahead of the Zelda phenomenon."Banzzai review: "In direct line, we find Zelda: The Awakening which has now moved into second position in my personal ranking."Super Play review in this issueKeith of Super Gamer: "It's second only to Link's Awakening as the best Game Boy game ever".
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/It's OK to Be Angry About Capitalism
- Comment: Banzzai article is French. Sorry :/
5x expanded by HumanxAnthro (talk). Self-nominated at 22:10, 24 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Monster Max; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- General eligibility:
- New Enough: - n
- Long Enough:
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- Cited:
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- Other problems: - Concision preferred.
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Overall: Great work expanding the article. Sourced, neutral, and free of plagiarism. A couple of issues. First, is there a reason for the unusual notes section in this article? It seems like they could just as well have been cited as a normal reference rather than note. Second, while this article has been greatly expanded, it is about 200 words short of being expanded by 5 times. I think it would also be clearer and more concise to refer to the game by name in the ALT, rather than by euphemism. CurryTime7-24 (talk) 02:33, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- CurryTime7-24, thanks for the comments! The reason I was not explicit with the name was that I assumed readers would be way more interested in the being-compared-to-Zelda part. 200 words? Wow, that's close. User:HumanxAnthro (BanjoxKazooie) 20:38, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- Got it. Well, referring to the game euphemistically gives greater attention to Link's Awakening than this game. After all, Monster Max is the star of this DYK. ;) As for the expansion being short by ca. 200 words, I don't think it would be tough to pad this article just a little more in order to reach the threshold. It's not a big deal to me personally, but I don't want this DYK nom to be derailed by another editor on a technicality. Again, great work here overall. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 20:49, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- CurryTime7-24 Honestly, I think this article is as complete as it could be, so you can cancel this nomination. User:HumanxAnthro (BanjoxKazooie) 14:43, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
- I meant "200 characters". I'm very sorry about my mix-up of words. You've added enough since you submitted this DYK to meet the threshold. So all I'm waiting for now is for you to improve the ALT. I'm ready to review and approve once you're set! —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 18:04, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
- Oh, well in that case, let me submit a new ALT.
- ALT1 ... that some critics considered Monster Max to be the closest in quality to The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening over any other Game Boy game, some even greater than?User:HumanxAnthro (BanjoxKazooie) 18:28, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
- @CurryTime7-24: status report? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 20:58, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry, I got this confused with another DYK nom which had been settled. ALT1 is better, but not ideal. It could use a little trimming and rewriting. I have an ALT in mind, but I think that would mean that I'd be disqualified as a reviewer for this... —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 01:32, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- @CurryTime7-24: status report? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 20:58, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- I meant "200 characters". I'm very sorry about my mix-up of words. You've added enough since you submitted this DYK to meet the threshold. So all I'm waiting for now is for you to improve the ALT. I'm ready to review and approve once you're set! —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 18:04, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
- CurryTime7-24 Honestly, I think this article is as complete as it could be, so you can cancel this nomination. User:HumanxAnthro (BanjoxKazooie) 14:43, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
- Got it. Well, referring to the game euphemistically gives greater attention to Link's Awakening than this game. After all, Monster Max is the star of this DYK. ;) As for the expansion being short by ca. 200 words, I don't think it would be tough to pad this article just a little more in order to reach the threshold. It's not a big deal to me personally, but I don't want this DYK nom to be derailed by another editor on a technicality. Again, great work here overall. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 20:49, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 25[edit]
Qnat
- ... that during the Battle of Qnat, a group of 44 Lebanese resistance fighters stood up to a 3,000-strong Syrian brigade? Source: Clovis Choueifaty, This is how the Free Resistance faced the Assad army in Lebanon (Beirut, 2017)
- Reviewed:
Created by PalauanReich (talk). Self-nominated at 02:48, 3 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Qnat; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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- Adequate sourcing: - The one giant paragraph in the History section has all its reference lumped at the end. I understand that often sources are reworked and mixed, making it impractical to identify a specific source for each statement. This giant paragraph should be broken up into more reasonable paragraph sizes, which will then also allow the references to be more specific.
- Neutral: - The History section is not entirely NPOV, problem terms: "surprisingly effective", "martyred".
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
Hook eligibility:
- Cited: - As a result of the huge history paragraph, it is impossible to check if the hook is properly cited. Policy requires that "the hook must be supported in the article by at least one inline citation to a reliable source, appearing no later than the end of the sentence(s) offering that fact."
- Interesting:
- Other problems: - The numbers in the hook are not mentioned in the article!
Image eligibility:
- Freely licensed: - Taken from an external website without permission.
- Used in article:
- Clear at 100px:
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Overall: Thank you for working hard on this new geography article! Please modify the huge History paragraph by breaking it up into a few smaller paragraphs, adding the appropriate references. The hook itself must be in the article - if no sources back up the total number of fighters (from both sides!), then the hook needs to be rewritten. Remove the copyvio image. Other general improvement suggestions (not related to this DYK): add vital statistics and demographics, and Economy section. Thanks. -- P 1 9 9 ✉ 16:57, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
- @PalauanReich: let me know when the article is ready for another review. At this moment, I still don't see the "3000-strong" fact in the article... -- P 1 9 9 ✉ 13:27, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- @P199: sorry, I didn't know you could have it rereviewed, I instead created a Battle of Qnat wikipedia article that I submitted. It says 3000 strong though, right after Hamat Airport. PalauanReich (talk) 13:35, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Sure, DYK's are not dead after only one review. Articles can be worked on to address the issues raised in the DYK review. As for this review, sorry, yes, I see the "3000" in the article, but what source/reference is this number from? -- P 1 9 9 ✉ 13:46, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- From here PalauanReich (talk) 12:01, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry, it is not on that webpage (using Google Translate). -- P 1 9 9 ✉ 13:11, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- @@P199: It is from here actually, although that article is an almost exact copy of many sections of the lebanese forces article. Also, I think we should disregard that nomination and just use the Battle of Qnat nomination I made as that actually would allow us to link it to the main article which has more info on the battle than the Qnat town article. PalauanReich (talk) 00:54, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry, it is not on that webpage (using Google Translate). -- P 1 9 9 ✉ 13:11, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- From here PalauanReich (talk) 12:01, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Sure, DYK's are not dead after only one review. Articles can be worked on to address the issues raised in the DYK review. As for this review, sorry, yes, I see the "3000" in the article, but what source/reference is this number from? -- P 1 9 9 ✉ 13:46, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- @P199: sorry, I didn't know you could have it rereviewed, I instead created a Battle of Qnat wikipedia article that I submitted. It says 3000 strong though, right after Hamat Airport. PalauanReich (talk) 13:35, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
Comment: The nominator has "abandoned" this DYK nomination in favor of Template:Did you know nominations/Battle of Qnat (see above).
@PalauanReich: but you could also consider a double DYK nomination, like Template:Did you know nominations/Kesagami Provincial Park. -- P 1 9 9 ✉ 13:18, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 1[edit]
Paige Niemann
- ... that Ariana Grande-lookalike Paige Niemann has dressed up as the singer since age 12? Source: [2]
- ALT1: ... that Paige Niemann has posted photos and videos as Ariana Grande since age 12? Source: Same
- ALT2: ... that Ariana Grande-lookalike Paige Niemann has posted photos and videos dressed up as the singer since age 12? Source: Same
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Filli Vanilli
- Comment: Wow, it's really been a while!
Created by Pamzeis (talk). Self-nominated at 14:13, 1 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Paige Niemann; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- Reviewing... New enough, readable prose ~1,500 characters, QPQ done, hooks interesting. Will complete soon. Whispyhistory (talk) 07:23, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- ... Hooks are in article followed by inline citations to the text. Thank you. Whispyhistory (talk) 17:19, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hold - the article is now at AfD Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paige Niemann Bruxton (talk) 16:57, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
- Back on track, the AfD finished as no consensus Bruxton (talk) 21:04, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
- DYK nomination is back on hold again as an editor has placed a notability template on the article after the AfD conclusion. I will keep watching for any changes. Bruxton (talk) 21:29, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
- I've removed the tag, we'll see if it sticks. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 21:12, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- article has been sent back to AfD. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 22:56, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- I've removed the tag, we'll see if it sticks. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 21:12, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- DYK nomination is back on hold again as an editor has placed a notability template on the article after the AfD conclusion. I will keep watching for any changes. Bruxton (talk) 21:29, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
- Back on track, the AfD finished as no consensus Bruxton (talk) 21:04, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 2[edit]
The Discovery of Morniel Mathaway
- ... that William Tenn's science fiction short story "The Discovery of Morniel Mathaway", has been used to illustrate Jacques Lacan's concept of the sinthome? Source: Žižek, page 58, and many (many) books that refer to Žižek
- Reviewed:
- Comment: No idea whether this is too many links or too few
Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self-nominated at 17:20, 2 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/The Discovery of Morniel Mathaway; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- I will review this. TompaDompa (talk) 15:16, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing: - See below.
- Neutral: - See below.
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
Hook eligibility:
- Cited:
- Interesting: - No.
QPQ: - Not done.
Overall: Article created on 2 March, and meets the length requirement. Earwig reveals no copyvio and I didn't spot any instances of unacceptably WP:Close paraphrasing. QPQ has not been done. I don't think the hook is interesting, since I think most readers will simply go "I don't understand what that means" and move on. Some comments on the content:
- Plot summaries don't really need references (the work itself is presumed to be the source), but including them is not a problem, either.
- ISFDB is not a WP:Reliable source.
The same script was used for productions on Future Tense in July 1976.
– unsourced.Žižek's "masterpiece" work
– this is the first mention of Slavoj Žižek in the article, so the full name should be included and linked.Žižek's "masterpiece" work
– I don't see a good reason to include "masterpiece" here. Seems like unnecessary WP:PUFFERY.This analysis is widely used in similar works.
– unsourced.
Ping Maury Markowitz. TompaDompa (talk) 16:05, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
@TompaDompa: The template makes it practically impossible to read in source form, so forgive me if I miss anything:
- The opinion on this changes daily. Not going to do anything here.
- For a list of books it was published in? Really? Whatever, open to suggestions.
- Link added.
- "masterpiece" is used, in this form, in the article on the book. I'm in favour of leaving it in.
- Removed.
Maury Markowitz (talk) 18:54, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
- "Masterpiece" might be reasonable in the article on the book itself, but I don't see a good reason to include it here. On a similar note,
an issue best known for its cover article by Willy Ley describing the Disneyland production of Man in Space which featured the famous reusable winged spaceship designed by Wernher von Braun for the show
is WP:OFFTOPIC. TompaDompa (talk) 14:07, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
I came across this nom by accident, literally a wrong click. The sourcing and other issues above have been addressed (TMK). As to the hook:
- ALT1 ... that William Tenn's time travel story "The Discovery of Morniel Mathaway" has been used to illustrate the concept of psychoanalytic symptoms?Source: Žižek, page 58, and many (many) books that refer to Žižek
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Brennley Brown Maury Markowitz (talk) 00:16, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 3[edit]
Isaac Musa
- ... that the Liberian Truth and Reconciliation Commission listed former Council of State vice chair Isaac Musa among deceased supposed perpetrators of human rights abuses and war crimes? Source: Edmund Hogan (13 December 2021). Liberia's First Civil War: A Narrative History. Routledge. ISBN 978-1-00-048570-7.
Created by Soman (talk). Self-nominated at 17:26, 3 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Isaac Musa; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- @Soman: I am far from expert in en grammar but I feel DYK and the sentence in the article too needs bit improvement in paraphrasing. Sentence in the article says ".. Isaac Musa was listed, .., as 'Dead Perpetrators' by the Liberian Truth and Reconciliation Commission (LTRC), presented by the Commission as 'perpetrators who the LTRC [determined] were responsible for various forms of human rights abuses [...] and war crimes but died before the conclusion of the LTRC.'
- Can sentence in the article be rephrased something like, ".. Liberian Truth and Reconciliation Commission (LTRC) declared Isaac Musa among perpetrators who were responsible for various forms of human rights abuses [...] and war crimes but died before the conclusion of the LTRC. .."
- Now about DYK, Can we understand why you are using word 'supposed' in ".. among deceased supposed perpetrators .."? I am feeling that word bit awkwardly placed. I have not checked source. Whether commission is not sure of their war crimes? If LTRC is sure and conclusive then word 'supposed' seems unnecessary. If LTRC is not sure then whether word 'likely' or 'most likely' will be better in place of word supposed?
- Your feed back will help Other users to help you better.
- I chose to comment in this DYK being participant in User:Boud/Draft:WikiProject Peace.
- Bookku (talk) 11:26, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
- article needs full review. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 21:13, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- Article is new enough and long enough. Lots of sources that I can't check, but [6], [16] and [9] don't appear to contain "Musa". What does source [10] add? [11] appears to not support some of the information in the third section. [12] needs some page numbers, I think. [15]'s Musa seems to be a different individual. The nicknames in the lead need a source. Randomly Googling several sentences yields no plagiarism or copyvio. I'd like to see the text in the source that supports the hook. Which I guess is OK-ish. QPQ is OK. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 08:28, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- The spelling of his name is not consistent across sources (which happens with various Liberian personalities). [6] used "Isaac Musah". [16] uses "Isaac Saye Mussah". [9] seems to use a combination of "Isaac Musa" per my googling. [10] affirms that Musa was Council of State vice chair, in the government installed on March 7, 1994. What is the fact not supported by [11]? Page numbers for [12] added. The Isaac Musa in [15] is obviously this Isaac Musa ("...Si racconta che il comandante di battaglione Isaac Musa sia stato arrestato e passato davanti alla corte marziale , per aver ucciso un membro della Mansion Guard."). There are two other unrelated mentions of "Musa" in [15] (Mansa Musa and the word muse in Italian). No nick-names in lede, just examples of different spellings in the different sources. Hook is supported by passage in Hogan (2021): " Isaac Musa was among the 23 names listed as 'Dead Perpetrators' compiled by the LTRC"/"('The list of 'Dead Perpetrators', represents perpetrators who the LTRC determines were responsible for various forms of human rights abuses ... and war crimes but died before the conclusion of the LTRC')." --Soman (talk) 21:20, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- I think the article should at some point have a sourced list of the nicknames/alternate spellings. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 10:10, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- The three alternate spellings are now sourced in lede. --Soman (talk) 20:11, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- Doesn't seem like the second of these sources supports the statement. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 07:17, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- The three alternate spellings are now sourced in lede. --Soman (talk) 20:11, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- I think the article should at some point have a sourced list of the nicknames/alternate spellings. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 10:10, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- The spelling of his name is not consistent across sources (which happens with various Liberian personalities). [6] used "Isaac Musah". [16] uses "Isaac Saye Mussah". [9] seems to use a combination of "Isaac Musa" per my googling. [10] affirms that Musa was Council of State vice chair, in the government installed on March 7, 1994. What is the fact not supported by [11]? Page numbers for [12] added. The Isaac Musa in [15] is obviously this Isaac Musa ("...Si racconta che il comandante di battaglione Isaac Musa sia stato arrestato e passato davanti alla corte marziale , per aver ucciso un membro della Mansion Guard."). There are two other unrelated mentions of "Musa" in [15] (Mansa Musa and the word muse in Italian). No nick-names in lede, just examples of different spellings in the different sources. Hook is supported by passage in Hogan (2021): " Isaac Musa was among the 23 names listed as 'Dead Perpetrators' compiled by the LTRC"/"('The list of 'Dead Perpetrators', represents perpetrators who the LTRC determines were responsible for various forms of human rights abuses ... and war crimes but died before the conclusion of the LTRC')." --Soman (talk) 21:20, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 5[edit]
2023 Presidential Address to the Federal Assembly
- ... that in 2023, the presidential address Vladimir Putin (pictured) delivered to the Federal Assembly was simultaneously broadcast on large screens in public areas of Russia and the occupied territories of Ukraine? Source: https://archive.today/20230226114445/https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/02/22/in-photos-how-putins-address-really-was-one-to-the-entire-nation-a80308
- Reviewed: Babel II (short story)
- Comment: i thought i might offer three different options for the picture.
Created by dying (talk). Self-nominated at 22:45, 12 March 2023 (UTC).
- ALT1: ... that in 2023, the presidential address Vladimir Putin (pictured) delivered to the Federal Assembly was broadcast on large screens in public areas of Russia and the occupied territories of Ukraine? Radzy0 (talk) 01:09, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
- This is my first full DYK review. A second opinion would be appreciated.
- Two images in the article have been nominated for deletion with the comment, "not a work from the Kremlin." One of them is included as an alternate in the DYK nomination.
- The hook, with elipsis and "(pictured) " removed, is 201 characters. Maybe change "simultaneously broadcast" to "broadcast live" or (ALT1) to just "broadcast"?
- I'm not sure the picture adds much value to the hook.
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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- Used in article:
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Overall: The article was created on March 5, 2023 and nominated within seven days after creation. The article is 1678 bytes long, so it's long enough. Sourcing requirements are met; two article are in Russian, AGF. The article is neutral in tone, and no plagiarism issues were detected. Earwig says copyvio "Violation Unlikely 4.8%" and the listed source, on manual review, obviously does not have a violation. No dispute templates. BLP requirements satisfied. The hook is properly mentioned and cited inline, and verified by the sources. Radzy0 (talk) 01:09, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
- Radzy, I have relocated the notification of review template from this page, to the nominator's talk page, where it is meant to be placed. Flibirigit (talk) 16:55, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
Half a Soul, Olivia Atwater
- ... that Olivia Atwater's debut novel Half a Soul, which follows a girl who is unable to feel and express her emotions after a faerie stole half of her soul, is set in the Regency era? Source: [3]
- ALT1: ... that the main character from Olivia Atwater's debut novel Half a Soul is unable to feel and express her emotions and that her condition was interpreted as a metaphor for neurodivergence? Source: [4]
- Reviewed:
Created by Poirot09 (talk). Self-nominated at 22:37, 5 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Half a Soul; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- I think there might need to be changes to the hook because, as currently written, it fails WP:DYKSG#C6:
If the subject is a work of fiction or a fictional character, the hook must involve the real world in some way.
Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:02, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- Is it okay now? I haven't changed it much since I think the premise of the book is the most interesting part. Poirot09 (talk) 14:14, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
- I've added a possible ALT that clearly refers to the real world in case the first one doesn't meet the requirement. Poirot09 (talk) 22:15, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
- Can we try a different angle here? I don't think this one is working out. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:47, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
- For both hooks? Is the issue the wording or the content? I'll see but I feel like those are the most interesting bits. Poirot09 (talk) 10:54, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
- There may be disagreement on this, but based on previous precedent, I really don't think the new ALT solves the earlier concern about it not being related to the real world. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:18, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
- For both hooks? Is the issue the wording or the content? I'll see but I feel like those are the most interesting bits. Poirot09 (talk) 10:54, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
- Can we try a different angle here? I don't think this one is working out. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:47, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
- I have an idea with ALT1. Is this interpretation thing within the book, or was it from a review? It's not very clear in ALT1, but if it's the latter, I think the hook could be rewritten to be able to meet the guideline. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:17, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- @User:Narutolovehinata5 Sorry for the late reply, yes the fact is from a review, should it be explicitly attributed to the reviewer? Poirot09 (talk) 15:31, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
- Yes. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 17:54, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Poirot09: status report? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 21:17, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- Yes. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 17:54, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
- @User:Narutolovehinata5 Sorry for the late reply, yes the fact is from a review, should it be explicitly attributed to the reviewer? Poirot09 (talk) 15:31, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
- Just passing by here – I'm not comfortable with the phrase "unable to feel and express her emotions". In the first place, it's self-contradictory; if this character doesn't feel emotion, then it makes little sense to say she also can't express the emotions that she doesn't have. And secondly, my impression from reading the Tor source is that the character does in fact feel emotion, and expresses it, but expresses it in a way that is not easily comprehensible to those around her. If, as I gather from the source's cagey wording, the character is meant to be autistic, then it's important to get the hook right so as not to perpetuate misconceptions about the condition on the main page. Sojourner in the earth (talk) 07:05, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 6[edit]
Nick Acocella
- ... that New Jersey politics expert Nick Acocella hosted Pasta & Politics, a television show where he would make pasta with various politicians including Thomas Kean, Cory Booker, and Chris Christie? Source: “ He hosted a TV show in which he spoke with local political titans like Tom Kean and Chris Christie while cooking pasta.In 2015, he started hosting his own TV show, “Pasta & Politics,” on NJTV. He welcomed guests like U.S. Sen. Cory Booker and state Senate President Stephen Sweeney to make Italian food and chat about their trade.“I love politics. I love pasta. The combination was inevitable,” Acocella said of the idea.” NJ.com
Created by Thriley (talk). Self-nominated at 23:38, 17 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Nick Acocella; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- @Thriley: New enough and barely long enough at 1540 characters, but it reads shorter than it is because of all the choppy sentences. The TV show is legitimately interesting as a hook and checks out. Have you tried using Newspapers.com? It's now in the WP:TWL bundle for qualified editors. It has good paper density in New Jersey, and I'm finding articles like the one I've cited here.[1] I also clipped the newspapers.com version of a paywalled North Jersey Media Group article. I'd just like to see the article be less choppy and a bit richer before approving. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 19:49, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
References
- ^ Arnold, Laurence (March 7, 2000). "Hardball politics: Hoboken baseball writer publishes political newsletter". The Jersey Journal. Associated Press. pp. B1, B4. Retrieved March 23, 2023 – via Newspapers.com.
Geneva Declaration (1918)
- ... that the Geneva Declaration was the agreement on a provisional government during the creation of Yugoslavia? Source: Janković, Dragoslav (1964). "Ženevska konferencija o stvaranju jugoslovenske zajednice 1918. godine" [Geneva Conference on Creation of the Yugoslav Community in 1918]. Istorija XX veka [History of the 20th Century] (in Serbian). Vol. V. Belgrade: Institute of Legal History of the University of Belgrade Faculty of Law. pp. 225–262. OCLC 67000822. Pages 242-244 and 249 amongst other sources
- ALT1: ... that Nikola Pašić was did not want to compromise on the Geneva Declaration despite insistence and threats until a letter was received detailing Raymond Poincaré wishes to come to an agreement? Source: Janković, Dragoslav (1964). "Ženevska konferencija o stvaranju jugoslovenske zajednice 1918. godine" [Geneva Conference on Creation of the Yugoslav Community in 1918]. Istorija XX veka [History of the 20th Century] (in Serbian). Vol. V. Belgrade: Institute of Legal History of the University of Belgrade Faculty of Law. pp. 225–262. OCLC 67000822. Pages 246-247
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/New Jersey's 1927 biannual elections proposal
- Comment: Unsure if I worded these correctly or got some incorrect.
Improved to Good Article status by Tomobe03 (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 21:25, 9 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Geneva Declaration (1918); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- Recent good article, certainly long enough. Nothing overtly non-neutral. QPQ done. Most of the sources are non-English or inaccessible, but I can access Jelavich & Jelavich 2000, and the sentence "this prompted Pašić to instruct Serbian ambassador to the United States to investigate if Serbia could at least receive Bosnia and Herzegovina" is quite a close paraphrase. A check on Pavlowitch 2003, pp. 29–35 produced no problems however. Regarding the hooks, I think new ones are needed. The current two lack context establishing what the declaration was meant to be and its surrounding context. There's some very interesting stuff here, for me especially the weird 'dual-monarchy' concept where one monarch was the national council. (I'm not sure how closely that is inspired by the Austro-Hungarian system exactly, but I'm happy to give the sources the benefit of the doubt there.) CMD (talk) 14:11, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Onegreatjoke, Tomobe03, and Chipmunkdavis: Any updates on this? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:36, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- Any updates? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 15:47, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Chipmunkdavis: Since you proposed it, how about "... that during talks on the creation of the Geneva Declaration, Ante Trumbić proposed a common government in which there would be the government of Serbia and a National Council?". Onegreatjoke (talk) 18:48, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
Davolls General Store
- ... that Davolls General Store (pictured), operating since 1793, is the oldest continually operating general store in Massachusetts? Source: https://www.onlyinyourstate.com/massachusetts/oldest-store-ma/
- ALT1: ... that Davolls General Store (pictured), operating since 1793, is one of the oldest continually operating stores in the United States? Source: https://turnto10.com/news/local/a-look-inside-one-of-americas-oldest-general-stores-reopens-in-dartmouth https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/08/22/business/general-store-all-about-details/
- Reviewed:
Created by AdmiralAckbar1977 (talk). Self-nominated at 22:53, 6 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Davolls General Store; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- The page is well written, is correctly sourced and has no neutrality or copyvio issues. The hook is supported by the source provided. Toadboy123 (talk) 09:01, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
- @AdmiralAckbar1977 and Toadboy123: A few thoughts. The article suffers badly from WP:OVERCITE. We should aloo try to avoid citations in the lead per MOS:LEADCITE. The lead is three sentences but it has eleven citations. the claims of oldest are cited to local sources. I did have a look at the Boston Globe article and they make no such claims about "oldest". A hook will work with the years in operation which I believe is 230, or the year of establishment 1793. I think we might consider a new hook because the "oldest" is cited to Edible Southeastern Massachusetts and Only in Your State. Bruxton (talk) 14:41, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @Bruxton:, would you be more comfortable with something like "Did you know Davolls General Store has been in continuous operation since 1793? Or, instead of since 1793, for the last 230 years? AdmiralAckbar1977 (talk) 15:45, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
- @AdmiralAckbar1977, I would suggest that you go for this hook, as it clarifies the point made by @Bruxton. Toadboy123 (talk) 01:20, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @Bruxton:, would you be more comfortable with something like "Did you know Davolls General Store has been in continuous operation since 1793? Or, instead of since 1793, for the last 230 years? AdmiralAckbar1977 (talk) 15:45, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
- @AdmiralAckbar1977 and Toadboy123: A few thoughts. The article suffers badly from WP:OVERCITE. We should aloo try to avoid citations in the lead per MOS:LEADCITE. The lead is three sentences but it has eleven citations. the claims of oldest are cited to local sources. I did have a look at the Boston Globe article and they make no such claims about "oldest". A hook will work with the years in operation which I believe is 230, or the year of establishment 1793. I think we might consider a new hook because the "oldest" is cited to Edible Southeastern Massachusetts and Only in Your State. Bruxton (talk) 14:41, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
- ALT2:... that Davolls General Store (pictured) has been in continuous operation since 1793?
- Here is the ALT you have proposed, I have only formatted. It is accurate and supported and I hope others think it is interesting. Bruxton (talk) 01:26, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- @AdmiralAckbar1977, Toadboy123, and Bruxton: I have demoted this hook from Prep, because a section of this article has now been tagged for using a list where it should use prose. I could be convinced that the "Ownership" section should remain as is, as long as a bit more prose is incorporated in the "History" section. At the moment, the History section is very dense, and there is room to expand it in a more reader-friendly way that is easier to follow. (Quite frankly I'm a bit surprised that this article was already submitted for GA as is; it actually doesn't feel "complete" yet.) BTW, you may want to check out what WP:MOS says about hyphens vs. dashes; I see some hyphens used inappropriately. Cielquiparle (talk) 08:48, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
- Issue with tag inside of article still needs to be resolved. Cielquiparle (talk) 11:06, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- @AdmiralAckbar1977, Toadboy123, and Bruxton: I have demoted this hook from Prep, because a section of this article has now been tagged for using a list where it should use prose. I could be convinced that the "Ownership" section should remain as is, as long as a bit more prose is incorporated in the "History" section. At the moment, the History section is very dense, and there is room to expand it in a more reader-friendly way that is easier to follow. (Quite frankly I'm a bit surprised that this article was already submitted for GA as is; it actually doesn't feel "complete" yet.) BTW, you may want to check out what WP:MOS says about hyphens vs. dashes; I see some hyphens used inappropriately. Cielquiparle (talk) 08:48, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
Drew Van Horn, Georgia Nonpublic Postsecondary Education Commission
- ... that Drew Van Horn, president of Young Harris College, was appointed to the Georgia Nonpublic Postsecondary Education Commission last year? Source: https://sky963.com/yhc-president-appointed-as-georgia-nonpublic-postsecondary-education-commissioner/ "Young Harris College (YHC) President Dr. Drew Van Horn was recently appointed by Governor Brian Kemp to the Board of Commissioners for the Georgia Nonpublic Postsecondary Education Commission."
- Reviewed: Frank LeMaster
Created by Mgreason (talk). Self-nominated at 16:46, 11 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Drew Van Horn; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- The article on the Georgia Nonpublic Postsecondary Education Commission has 12 citations, 10 of which are primary sources from the GNPEC itself. Asserting the notability of the organization would be improved by adding independent sources. Flibirigit (talk) 01:48, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- I am concerned that the Georgia Nonpublic Postsecondary Education Commission might not be notable for its own article, but rather than nominating for deletion, I hope the nominator can improve the article. Flibirigit (talk) 15:45, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- I have found and incorporated four additional sources into the article. Do you consider that sufficient? There are numerous other sources naming GNPEC but they really contribute nothing to the topic. Mgrē@sŏn (Talk)
- It looks improved. A full review is still needed for both articles. Flibirigit (talk) 21:41, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- I share the previous reviewer's concerns with the GNPEC article, and have similar concerns with the other one, too. Notability issues aside, they are written by cobbling together primary sources in a way that makes the text not independent of the subject, thereby failing WP:NPOV. Primary sources are acceptable to fill in non-controversial detail; they cannot be the framework on which the article is built. The GNPEC article, in particular, draws heavily from two government reports; the reports are likely public domain (I haven't checked) but we cannot construct an article by summarizing a government report. I'm going to nominate the second article for deletion, and the first requires substantially better sourcing. Vanamonde (Talk) 22:39, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- I have undone the rejection of this nomination, since the major concerns were only with one article. The biography is still eligible and deserves a full review once changes are made. Flibirigit (talk) 01:50, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 9[edit]
Matar judíos
... that in the Matar judíos tradition ("Kill Jews") in León, Spain, revelers drink 33 glasses of Leonese lemonade, the age at which Jesus Christ died? Source: https://www.thelocal.es/20200410/seven-weird-traditions-celebrated-at-easter-in-spain
https://www.diariodeleon.es/articulo/leon/la-sagrada-bebida/201403271158001422152.html- ALT1: ... that the city of León, Spain, celebrates a tradition called Matar judíos ("Kill Jews") during the Holy Week leading up to Easter? Source: https://www.thelocal.es/20200410/seven-weird-traditions-celebrated-at-easter-in-spain
https://www.diariodeleon.es/articulo/leon/la-sagrada-bebida/201403271158001422152.html - Reviewed:
- ALT1: ... that the city of León, Spain, celebrates a tradition called Matar judíos ("Kill Jews") during the Holy Week leading up to Easter? Source: https://www.thelocal.es/20200410/seven-weird-traditions-celebrated-at-easter-in-spain
Created by Longhornsg (talk). Self-nominated at 23:01, 9 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Matar judíos; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- Reviewing... (will do today or tomorrow) Artem.G (talk) 12:18, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- Long enough, interesting (I prefer ALT1), sourcing is good, images are good. QPQ check doesn't show any DYKs by the nominator, so not needed. Good to go! Artem.G (talk) 16:12, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hook still needs more work. It is attention-getting and explained in the article, but maybe unnecessarily inflammatory as well. Cielquiparle (talk) 15:51, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- I don't have any fundamental problem with the hook (WP:NOTCENSORED), but the lede of the article itself is bizarre. The first sentence tells us where and when it happens, and that the participants drink lemonade. Surely what kind of beverage they drink is not such an important thing that it should be in the first sentence, before the antisemitic origins are even mentioned. -- RoySmith (talk) 16:10, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks, @RoySmith: and @Cielquiparle:. The tradition of drinking the Leonese lemonade (a regional variant) in Leon is literally called "Matar/Matando judios". It's mainstream and part of the city's Holy Week celebrations, with the anti-Semitic undertones and history of the tradition's names not necessarily appreciated by modern celebrants. Open to any necessary suggestions to amend the hook, such as adding a clause that the tradition is the drinking of the lemonade. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Longhornsg (talk • contribs) 18:01, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Artem.G, Cielquiparle, and RoySmith: Frankly I think this is more than a hook issue. I'm not sure the article in its current form passes WP:DYKCRIT #4d, neutrality. This is an obviously controversial topic, and the article barely makes mention of that. There is a single anonymous mention in the lede of some local Jews finding the event offensive—immediately dismissed as invalid, until I reworded it—and then later a mention of efforts 100 years ago to abandon the name, although without elaboration. If you Google the term, on the other hand, the majority of coverage is about the name, much of it negative. There are times when an article can be non-neutral simply by omission, and this strikes me as one of them. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 23:14, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Cc: Longhornsg as nominator/author. Cielquiparle (talk) 05:47, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Longhornsg: well... not interested in this nomination anymore? BorgQueen (talk) 19:08, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 12[edit]
Amy Harvey
- ... that before joining the girl group XG, Japanese singer Amy Harvey won the most magazine awards when she participated in Tokyo Girls Audition? Source: https://mdpr.jp/interview/detail/1612547
Created by Lullabying (talk). Self-nominated at 22:12, 19 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Amy Harvey; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- @Lullabying: New enough and long enough. QPQ present. Must AGF on the Japanese-language sourcing. The hook needs a bit more detail for non-topic readers, like your reviewer, because it's not very self-explanatory and gets kind of dry. If we can get the right hook, this is ready to run. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 05:32, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- ALT 1B: ... that before joining the girl group XG, Japanese singer Amy Harvey won the most awards when she participated in a modeling contest? lullabying (talk) 02:47, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 14[edit]
Sarah Maria Griffin
- ... that a fantasy novel by Irish poet and author, Sarah Maria Griffin, was sent to around 200,000 ticket-holders of the Tomorrowland music festival? Source: The Irish Times at www.irishtimes.com/culture/books/tomorrowland-i-can-t-believe-my-life-1.3960349 - "around 200,000 of them have been dispatched to attendees of the festival. / It's Griffin's fourth book."
- ALT1: ... that a fantasy by Irish author, Sarah Maria Griffin, sent to around 200,000 Tomorrowland attendees, had a case with a secret compartment? Source: The Irish Times at www.irishtimes.com/culture/books/tomorrowland-i-can-t-believe-my-life-1.3960349 - "around 200,000 of them have been dispatched to attendees of the festival. / It's Griffin's fourth book." & "the finished book, a beautifully bound and designed artefact that comes in a specially created case with several props, a secret compartment and an electronic wristband"
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/El Shaddai: Ascension of the Metatron
- Comment: Major expansion (finished at c. 6x) begun 2100 14 March. Unusual block sale of novel by multi-area artist (novelist, essayist, poet, spoken word artist, zinester), may generate more hooks, and still checking re. picture. DYK to follow within 24h.
Created by SeoR (talk). Self-nominated at 16:26, 21 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Sarah Maria Griffin; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
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- Article expanded 5x, sourced, neutral, and free of copyright. Hook passes muster. Good to go pending QPQ. @SeoR:
- Thank you, Longhornsg, and sorry, the QPQ was meant to be long ago, but things got busy. Now done and entered above. SeoR (talk) 00:50, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 15[edit]
I'm Casting My Lasso Towards the Sky
- ... that it was Slim Whitman's wife who suggested the song "I'm Casting My Lasso Towards the Sky" for his first recording session at RCA? Source: [5]
Created by Moscow Connection (talk). Self-nominated at 23:42, 22 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/I'm Casting My Lasso Towards the Sky; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- Article length and filing date okay. Article neutrality and sourcing okay. No evident signs of copyvio from looking at some of the sources and Earwig doesn't flag anything. QPQ started.
- The hook seems a little dull. And if I understand correctly, this wasn't just Whitman's first single for RCA, it was his first single period. So why doesn't the hook say that?
- The article as a whole seems lacking in some essential information. When was the song written? Was it originally a cowboy song, and Whitman added the yodeling to it? Where and in what form may it have previously appeared – on somebody's record, in a movie, in a show? How did Whitman's wife hear about it?
- The length of the song should be in the infobox, as should be the recording date (even if it's just "1948 or 1949").
- The article says the single had "moderate success". What does that mean? Did it appear on any C&W-related charts? If not, the article should say so. The article also says it became Whitman's "theme song". What does that mean – did he walk out on stage to it or something like that? I presume later on it was supplanted by more popular works of his like "Indian Love Call"? The article then says it's one of Whitman's classics, but the source is a mention in a piece in No Depression magazine. First, you should cite to the full piece available here, not a snippet from Google Books. Second, if it's really one of his classics, there should be additional evidence of that. Do Whitman compilation albums often include it? Are there Whitman live albums, and do they include it?
- Hopefully many, if not all, of these questions can be resolved. Wasted Time R (talk) 13:08, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
- Can you please wait a couple of days, I will attend to the matter and reply. (I think I need to work on the article a little bit more... I saw Billboard mention the song having some local success. It was liked by some local DJs... Maybe that was what was meant by "moderate success".) --Moscow Connection (talk) 03:13, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
- No rush. Also note that this Newspapers.com search shows some valuable contemporaneous sources for the song and single making an impact. Wasted Time R (talk) 10:52, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
- Can you please wait a couple of days, I will attend to the matter and reply. (I think I need to work on the article a little bit more... I saw Billboard mention the song having some local success. It was liked by some local DJs... Maybe that was what was meant by "moderate success".) --Moscow Connection (talk) 03:13, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
Eldridge Milton
- ... that when young, future NFL linebacker Eldridge Milton liked playing with alligators? Source: Clemson linebacker Eldridge Milton owes his success to the alligators
Created by BeanieFan11 (talk). Self-nominated at 00:28, 19 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Eldridge Milton; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
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Overall: @BeanieFan11: Good article. Waiting on a QPQ. Onegreatjoke (talk) 14:06, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- I think the article might currently fail WP:DYKSG#D7 as there's no information about his post-NFL life. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:22, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: If I had been able to find any post-NFL coverage I would have written about it. BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:23, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Onegreatjoke: Reviewed Template:Did you know nominations/That's 60s as a qpq. BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:44, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: If I had been able to find any post-NFL coverage I would have written about it. BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:23, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- I think the article might currently fail WP:DYKSG#D7 as there's no information about his post-NFL life. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:22, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
Obviously 5 Believers
- ... that Bob Dylan complained that he did not want to spend much time recording "Obviously 5 Believers"? Source: Wilentz, Sean (2010). Bob Dylan in America. (loc 2013 in Kindle edition)
- ALT1: ... that the working title for Bob Dylan's "Obviously 5 Believers" was "Black Dog Blues"? Source: Wilentz, Sean (2010). Bob Dylan in America. (loc 2013 in Kindle edition)
- ALT2: ... that Bob Dylan did not perform his 1966 song "Obviously 5 Believers" live until 1995? Source: Bob Dylan's official website: Setlists that contain Obviously Five Believers
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/KSMO-TV
- Comment: Suggestions for ALT hooks welcome.
Improved to Good Article status by BennyOnTheLoose (talk). Self-nominated at 10:51, 15 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Obviously 5 Believers; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
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Overall: @BennyOnTheLoose: Good article. Though, the hooks kind of feel a bit bland. The only one that really interests me is Alt2 but i'm not all too confident about it. Onegreatjoke (talk) 17:13, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
How about a version of one of these, Onegreatjoke? (I think there's something in ALT3, but it might need tweaking.)
- ALT3: ... that in 1966 one of the Hawks (later known as the Band) played on "Obviously 5 Believers", which was later the name of a band (later known as the Hawks) who played on Obviously 5 Believers (2021)? Sources: Heylin, Clinton (2021). Heylin, Clinton (2021). The Double Life of Bob Dylan. Vol. 1 1941-1966, A restless, hungry feeling pp. 388–392.; Seaman, Duncan (August 26, 2021); "Stephen Duffy and David Twist on The Hawks: 'We weren't after world domination'". The Yorkshire Post.
- ALT4: ... that "Obviously 5 Believers" by Bob Dylan inspired the name of a band featuring Duran Duran founding member Stephen Duffy? Sources: Petridis, Alexis (October 15, 2004). "Radio daze". The Guardian.; Seaman, Duncan (August 26, 2021); "Stephen Duffy and David Twist on The Hawks: 'We weren't after world domination'". The Yorkshire Post.
- @BennyOnTheLoose: Alt3 could work but I do agree that a rewording is needed. Onegreatjoke (talk) 20:27, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
- How about...
- ALT3a ... that "Obviously 5 Believers" (1966) which featured one of the Hawks, later known as the Band, inspired the name of a band, later known as the Hawks, who featured on Obviously 5 Believers (2021)? BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 22:21, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 16[edit]
Order of Excellence for Women, Order of Righteous Son of Sudan
- ... that Sudan has a separate decoration for women (with a pink ribbon) and men (with a khaki ribbon)? Source: The law the instituted all Sudanese orders in 1961, [6]
- Comments: the men’s order has a robin that is coloured similar to military fatigues but I don’t how to add that succinctly. Another thing, ‘DYK code’ does not consider information inside tables for some reasons
Created by FuzzyMagma (talk). Self-nominated at 21:22, 21 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Order of Excellence for Women; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- This is a two-article hook.
- Order of Excellence for Women: Created on March 16, nominated in time. Article is below 1500 characters of prose. I could include the descriptions in the tables as prose, which would put it over 1500, but it is unsourced.
- Order of Righteous Son of Sudan: Created on March 16, nominated in time. This article is long enough and sourced. The first paragraph in "Insignia" is unsourced, though.
- Hook fact is interesting enough. One QPQ is presented, but a two-article hook requires 2 QPQ. Please expand and source the women's article, source that part of the men's article, and provide a second QPQ review. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:10, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Muboshgu: added a 2nd QPQ. as for sourcing the description of the badge or the insignia of both Orders, I thought I did not need a reference similar to the plot of a movie or the synopsis of book as per Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Film#Plot WP:NONFICTION, as the it included in the thing itslef, i.e., the picture of the badge. Hope I am not wrong to assume that FuzzyMagma (talk) 16:40, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- Even if we assume that it doesn't need to be sourced along a film plot, the film plot doesn't count to the character count of the article (I believe) and those descriptions shouldn't count to the character count of this article, making it too short. – Muboshgu (talk) 23:36, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Muboshgu: would you mind citing the policy as I could not find it in the DYK rules at Wikipedia:Did you know FuzzyMagma (talk) 09:11, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- Even if we assume that it doesn't need to be sourced along a film plot, the film plot doesn't count to the character count of the article (I believe) and those descriptions shouldn't count to the character count of this article, making it too short. – Muboshgu (talk) 23:36, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Muboshgu: added a 2nd QPQ. as for sourcing the description of the badge or the insignia of both Orders, I thought I did not need a reference similar to the plot of a movie or the synopsis of book as per Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Film#Plot WP:NONFICTION, as the it included in the thing itslef, i.e., the picture of the badge. Hope I am not wrong to assume that FuzzyMagma (talk) 16:40, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 17[edit]
Rumrich spy case
- ... that at the trial of the Rumrich spy case, US Army deserter Guenther Rumrich stated he was instructed to determine how many US soldiers were based on the country's east coast? Source: Rumrich Testifies Spies Checked East Coast
Created by Therapyisgood (talk). Self-nominated at 08:14, 17 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Rumrich spy case; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- General eligibility:
- New Enough: - 17 March
- Long Enough: - Just long enough
Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing: - Sourced based on contemporary news media
- Neutral: - No obvious bias
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: -
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- Interesting: Borderline, but okay -
- Other problems: - Could this be made more concise?
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Overall: Martin (Smith609 – Talk) 14:15, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Therapyisgood and Smith609: I don't believe this article complies with rule D7, which says an article must be reasonably complete and give an adequate overview of the subject. Having read the article, I remain in the dark as to what the case was all about – e.g., what was Rumrich pleading guilty to? Espionage, desertion, impersonating Cordell Hull; all or none of the above? Why was he impersonating Cordell Hull? What's the connection between Rumrich, the hairdresser and the airplane mechanic? What were they convicted of? Did Rumrich go to jail too? And if so, why? There's a lot of basic information missing from this article, and I don't think it's ready for the main page in its current form. Sojourner in the earth (talk) 19:05, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
- All excellent points, I'll be working on this in the coming days plus I need a QPQ. Therapyisgood (talk) 19:45, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
- Clarified Rumrich pleaded guilty to espionage with source. Therapyisgood (talk) 20:11, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
- Clarified that Hoffman served as a go-between between Rumrich's contact person in Germany and himself. Therapyisgood (talk) 20:16, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
- Clarified Rumrich served two years in NYC. Therapyisgood (talk) 20:43, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
- Clarified why Rumrich wanted the passports (to give to the German government). Therapyisgood (talk) 20:46, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Sojourner in the earth: how does it look now? Therapyisgood (talk) 02:01, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
- I think it could still be expanded (eg. still no explanation of Voss's involvement) but the narrative is clearer now, so I'll withdraw my objection. Thanks. I'll let Smith609 or someone else give the final tick when you've provided the QPQ. Sojourner in the earth (talk) 06:57, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
- Clarified Rumrich served two years in NYC. Therapyisgood (talk) 20:43, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
- Clarified that Hoffman served as a go-between between Rumrich's contact person in Germany and himself. Therapyisgood (talk) 20:16, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
- Clarified Rumrich pleaded guilty to espionage with source. Therapyisgood (talk) 20:11, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
- All excellent points, I'll be working on this in the coming days plus I need a QPQ. Therapyisgood (talk) 19:45, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
@Smith609: QPQ done at Template:Did you know nominations/Lewis Manly. Therapyisgood (talk) 00:38, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 20[edit]
The Doll's Hospital
- ... that the owners of The Doll's Hospital toyshop were the penultimate victims of the Acid Bath Murderer? Source: "It later emerged they had been the victims of the acid bath murderer, John George Haigh, a notorious serial-killer who dissolved his victim’s bodies in barrels of concentrated sulphuric acid." [7]
Created by Edwardx (talk). Self-nominated at 22:46, 27 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/The Doll's Hospital; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- Article falls short of the criteria for inclusion in Wikipedia. Specifically it is based on just two sources: a caption on a Shutterstock photo and a Wordpress article. According to WP:BLOG we should be cautious about using blogs as a reliable source at all, let alone as the sole support for the substance of the article. The blog post appears to be original research based on secondary sources; if some of those sources can be tracked down and included as support for the article, and if the article is brought up to style guideline standards, perhaps this may be worth reconsidering.Oblivy (talk) 05:41, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry about that, Oblivy. The deadline was looming and I was tired. It is now over 1500 characters and has two more sources. As for the blog, it is the official blog of LBHF Libraries and Archives, with a named author, Lauren Romano, so I think we can reasonably consider it to be a reliable source. There are plenty of good sources about Haigh and his murders, but decent sources specifically about The Doll's Hospital are harder to find. I will dig around some more later today, and do a QPQ review. Edwardx (talk) 11:15, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Wasn't looking for an apology, just trying to make some constructive criticism of the article without being too discouraging. The article is better now - more focused on the shop and less on the murders. Some headings would help.
- You may like this: it's a published article from Ms. Romano which overcomes the "blog" issue.[8] Also, on the blog there's a gripe from a guy named Michael Volpe who she quoted his "book" without attribution; in the article she quotes his blog. Could be this? [9] Good luck with the article.Oblivy (talk) 13:12, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Wasn't looking for an apology, just trying to make some constructive criticism of the article without being too discouraging. The article is better now - more focused on the shop and less on the murders. Some headings would help.
- I just did a big cleanup and mild expansion of this article. I think it should be OK now but from what I can tell the Hendersons owned the *building* while a series of artisans owned the actual Doll Hospital business. Source for their ownership of the building should be here on page 74. https://books.google.com/books?id=xmVtBQAAQBAJ&dq=erren%2C+rudolph+arnold&pg=PA70#v=onepage&q&f=true
If I may suggest an Alt2:
- ... that the owners of The Doll's Hospital building were the penultimate victims of the Acid Bath Murderer?
All that said I should not review for DYK bc I edited so **this still needs a reviewer** jengod (talk) 02:02, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
First, good job on substantially improving the article. I was a minor editor as well, so I'm not in a position to review even if I knew how. However I ran WP:DYKCHECK on this and it doesn't qualify for substantially expanded. Not sure how far short it falls but it's not 5x text expanded in the last 7 days.Oblivy (talk) 06:41, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Oblivy and Jengod: When you said it hasn't been a 5x expansion, did you mean as of April 18, or as of March 27? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 15:49, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- Narutolovehinata5 I think Oblivy's machine was probably tracking from April 18. I suspect it qualifies as from being launched on March 27. But it also needs a QPQ? jengod (talk) 15:58, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- As I understand the criteria, there's a 7-day window in which the article text needs to have been expanded to 5x its size. So based on my 18 April date, probably counting from 11 April. I'm not at all expert in this so I could be wrong, I'm just interpreting the policy.Oblivy (talk) 22:25, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Oblivy: The 7-day window counts not on from day of the review, but from the date of the nomination. This means that 5x expansion should have been checked from March 27; that is, if a 5x expansion was done by March 27. Also, @Edwardx: This nomination still needs a QPQ. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:43, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- As I understand the criteria, there's a 7-day window in which the article text needs to have been expanded to 5x its size. So based on my 18 April date, probably counting from 11 April. I'm not at all expert in this so I could be wrong, I'm just interpreting the policy.Oblivy (talk) 22:25, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- Narutolovehinata5 I think Oblivy's machine was probably tracking from April 18. I suspect it qualifies as from being launched on March 27. But it also needs a QPQ? jengod (talk) 15:58, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Oblivy and Jengod: When you said it hasn't been a 5x expansion, did you mean as of April 18, or as of March 27? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 15:49, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
Rick Suder
- ... that Rick Suder was bumped from the NCAA record book by JJ Redick and Gerry McNamara? Source: http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/m_basketball_RB/2007/2007RB.pdf
- ALT1: ... that Rick Suder was among the Top 25 most accurate free throw shooters in college basketball history until he was passed by JJ Redick in 2006?
- ALT2: ... that Rick Suder was among the Top 25 most accurate free throw shooters in college basketball history until he was passed by JJ Redick and Gerry McNamara in 2006?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Thomas Charles Sorby
- Comment: 1st of 10 QPQs for this review
Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self-nominated at 17:35, 20 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Rick Suder; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- Will take for review Longhornsg (talk) 02:57, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
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Overall: Hook as written doesn't really say anything and the wording is confusing. Did Redick and McNamara physically bump him? Why is it interesting that Suder was passed in the record books? I made some direct edits to the article and added ALT1 hook as an option for a more descriptive hook. Would also improve the inline citing of your sourcing in the article. -— Preceding unsigned comment added by Longhornsg (talk • contribs) 03:17, March 21, 2023 (UTC) --TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:08, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
- Would displaced be a better verb? The point of the hook is to draw the reader in with the implication that Suder may have held some important record that these other guys broke. In fact, he was 24th on a top 25 list and these guys entered the list above him to move him out of the top 25.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 13:15, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
- P.S. While I have your attention. I think we should discuss the WP:LEAD. Honestly, I think it needs to include a mention of his grandfather. I have created a lot of relatives of famous people and most of them have become quite stable with the mention of the famous relative. I.e., articles that are relavant for WP:CBBALL, such as Tim Hardaway Jr., Glen Rice Jr., Aubrey Dawkins, Glenn Robinson III, Kameron Chatman, Phil Pressey, Patrick Beilein, and Ian Hummer are stable long-term articles that include mention of their famous fathers, uncles or cousins. Distant 3rd cousin Caris LeVert does not include relatives in the LEAD. I don't know why I never put Brian Earl's brother in the LEAD. Since his brother mentions him in his LEAD, I have added his brother. Since both Foster Loyer and Fletcher Loyer are both relatively new articles (created during the same trip down the David DeJulius-->Foster Loyer-->Fletcher Loyer and Rick Suder rabbit hole as this one) I can't confirm that they will be stable with the mention of their famous fathers. Bob Scrabis (basketball) is also too new to describe as stable yet. I am deliberating about how to mention Suder's grandfather. You removed the sentence "He is the grandson of Major League Baseball infielder Pete Suder", which I think is an appropriate LEAD inclusion. I am deliberating about expanding the prose of the main body to add the following on the the current sentence in the main body, "who is notable for platooning with Nellie Fox as part of a double play record-setting infield." However, I think as part of the LEAD, I am also suppose to mention his financial advisory career since I should summarize every major section of the article in a proper LEAD.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 00:56, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
- N.B. Because of the number of articles that I have done regarding famous relatives and how stable the relative mentions have been in the articles, I am going to do a partial revert of your edit and add the platoon mention and a financial advisory mention.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 00:59, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
- I have revised the LEAD to summarize each major section of the article..--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 01:16, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Longhornsg:-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:10, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
- Also, Mike Yastrzemski (unlike the others I was not involved in this article) has one of the more famous grandfathers.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:14, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
- ALT 1 is not accurate, so I added ALT2.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 17:02, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
- ALT 2 is so literal that it is no fun. I think the original hook is the fun one.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:55, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
- Personally I do not see the significance of mentioning JJ Redick and the others in the hook. Would it not be enough to say something like "at one point, Rick Suder was..."? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:23, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 21[edit]
2021 College Football Playoff National Championship
- ... that, after winning the 2021 College Football Playoff National Championship, Alabama head coach Nick Saban has won more Division I college football national championships than any other coach? Source: https://www.si.com/college/2021/01/12/nick-saban-passes-bear-bryant-most-championships-cfb
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Hernán Galíndez
- Comment: Was nominated before but failed newness. However, it recently became a GA so i believe I can nominate this again. Also yes, I did copy one of the hooks from the last nom.
Improved to Good Article status by PCN02WPS (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 18:33, 23 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/2021 College Football Playoff National Championship/retry; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- I'll review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 18:27, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
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Overall: @Onegreatjoke and PCN02WPS: Almost there; however, the sentences This was the second of four consecutive College Football Playoff National Championship games matching the No. 3 seed and the No. 1 seed, with No. 1 LSU defeating the No. 3 Clemson Tigers 42–25 in the 2020 edition.
and In the Sugar Bowl for the second semifinal, Ohio State defeated Clemson 49–28, to get their first win over them, after four previous attempts.
need citations. Then this will be good to go. BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:26, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
Looping State of Mind
- ... that the electronic music album Looping State of Mind features live instrumentation? Source: (Gorman 2011)
- ALT1: ... that acclaimed musician Axel Willner's first project as the Field to be recorded at an official studio was his third Field album? Source: (Gorman 2011), (Spencer 2020)
- ALT2: ... that Looping State of Mind was seen as an improvement over the Field's previous album Yesterday and Today? Source: (Dietz 2011), (Baer 2011), numerous reviews
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Life Is but a Dream...
- Comment: The numerous reviews to verify ALT2 is in footnote C in the article.
Improved to Good Article status by Lazman321 (talk). Self-nominated at 06:07, 23 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Looping State of Mind; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
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Overall: @Lazman321: Good article but, I don't really think that any of these hooks are interesting. Maybe I need an explanation as to why but I'm just not seeing. Maybe other hooks could be proposed? Onegreatjoke (talk) 17:32, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
- Comment: Agreed that the hooks are not especially interesting. Suggestions based on the sources (some facts not currently in the article and would need to be added):
- MusicRadar: The album was recorded with a beta version of the newly released Elektron Octatrack sampler? (too tech-heady?)
- The Line of Best Fit: Something about the Field aiming "to blend acoustic and electronics in a way that you can’t really tell what’s what anymore" or the "repeating thoughts" quote? (too opinion-y?)
- The Quietus: The album, which is about repetition, has the same cover art as his last records? (juxtaposition, but interesting enough?} Gnomingstuff (talk) 04:47, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
- I apologize in advance for taking a while for me to respond; I've been busy with schoolwork and family life. So sorry Gnomingstuff, I'm not sure how the hooks you have proposed are any better than my hooks. The first one is too specialized—the only people that would be interested are those with special interests in synthesizers, the second one is too vague and flowery—much like a lot of music journalism honestly; and I don't see how exactly the third one is more interesting the hooks I've proposed. Onegreatjoke, if you don't have any good ideas for what would make for an interesting hook, you can fail the nomination. This being an underground work, there's not a lot of information available about it in regard to its production and other outside information, but I nonetheless tried my best to nominate hooks that I felt could have some level of broad interest, but it looks like it wasn't good enough. It's a shame because I really liked this record, but I am willing to accept a failed nomination. Lazman321 (talk) 17:07, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- No need to apologize. What I was going for were hooks that might be interesting to laypeople who have no idea who The Field are or why this band out of the millions of bands in the world should pique their interest. To me, ALT0 seems too generic -- lots of albums have live instrumentation. (Do you mean that this is rare in electronic music to be recorded live? If so, maybe spell that out?) ALT1 is the best of the three but kind of lacks oomph. ALT2 just means nothing to someone who hasn't heard of The Field, says nothing about why it's better, and is also pretty obvious -- given any two things, one is going to be better than the other.
- My favorite of the ones I suggested is the third one -- I can imagine a complete newcomer thinking "huh, that's cool, they're really taking this repetition theme all the way" -- and also not all that common among musicians (although Googling it, it seems more like career-long visual branding than anything?) There's probably something better in some interview somewhere though -- you're definitely more familiar with them and me Gnomingstuff (talk) 18:33, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 25[edit]
Max Bielfeldt
- ... that Max Bielfeldt introduced his sister to his future brother-in-law, Meyers Leonard of the National Basketball Association? Source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/timcasey/2020/10/05/how-miami-heat-center-meyers-leonard-and-his-wife-elle-leonard-built-a-health-food-company/?sh=6676148e4c48
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Thomas Charles Sorby
- Comment: 3rd of 10 QPQs for this review
Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self-nominated at 05:50, 30 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Max Bielfeldt; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- Length and history OK, and passes Earwig OK, but I can say nothing about the source because at no point does the article actually say that Bielfeldt introduced his sister to Leonard, merely that she accompanied him to Michigan and met Leonard there. Yes, we can infer this, but that's not enough for a DYK hook. Daniel Case (talk) 00:49, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
- Addendum: And while we're at this, maybe we can sidestep this problem, because frankly this is not unusual for someone to have introduced their sibling to a future spouse. How about instead:
- ALT1:... that Max Bielfeldt is the first college men's basketball player to have won Big Ten championships at different schools?
- You'd want to have it cited in the intro at least through its Main Page appearance since it would be the hook fact (and actually as an extraordinary claim about a BLP it should be cited in any event. Daniel Case (talk) 01:12, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
- I write WP:LEADs with the uncited format, summarizing content that is properly cited in the main body of the article.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:09, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- ALT2:... that Max Bielfeldt pledged to help turn around the Indiana Hoosiers men's basketball program that had been plagued with embarrasing drug and alcohol infractions?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:12, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- ALT3:... that after Max Bielfeldt transferred to Indiana Hoosiers men's basketball from Michigan Wolverines men's basketball, he posted a +25 plus–minus in the first half against Michigan?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:19, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- ALT4:... that Max Bielfeldt declined a basketball scholarship from the home of the Bielfeldt Athletic Administration Building, which was endowed by his grandparents, where multiple generations of his family have attended?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:24, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 26[edit]
El Shaddai: Ascension of the Metatron
- ... that production for El Shaddai: Ascension of the Metatron lasted for four years with the development team going from 4 people to 120-130 people? Source: http://www.1up.com/news/shaddai-producer-offers-glimpse-curtain , https://web.archive.org/web/20180728165018/https://www.gamebusiness.jp/article/2011/06/28/3912.html
- ALT1: ... that five different middlewares were used to take pressure off the staff working on El Shaddai: Ascension of the Metatron, a rarity in Japanese development at the time? Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20180728165018/https://www.gamebusiness.jp/article/2011/06/28/3912.html
- ALT2: ... that Japanese voice actors were added to El Shaddai: Ascension of the Metatron to appeal to a domestic audience with them being chosen based on their voices sounding "foreign"? Source: https://www.4gamer.net/games/109/G010992/20110325048/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Boudica
Improved to Good Article status by ProtoDrake (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 16:48, 30 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/El Shaddai: Ascension of the Metatron; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
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Overall: GA finalised on the day it was submitted, so AOK there, and far more than long enough, a very comprehensive work-up on the topic. Lots of referencing, fine citation in general, as you'd expect from a piece that made it through GA review in quick time - BUT the two paragraphs, added in response to a GA review point, of Synopsis, are uncited - I'm sure this can be quickly fixed. No past DYK found, no copyvio (a couple of 10.x%s relate to company and game names). Hook citations as required on the first two, with the third being in a sentence structure that needed a tiny copyedit and merge anyway. Alt 0 is solid though unexciting - 4 years sounds long to a lay audience, as does the growth from 4 to 120+, but neither is actually so exceptional. Alt1 is interesting to those who know IT / software development, but the average reader might go "what's middleware" or "is use of 5 middlewares unusual" (it is, but...)? Alt2 is solid for interest, but probably we need an Alt2a with a comma after "audience". So, a fine article, at least one hook potential (I would approve both Alt0 and Alt2), but that citation fix needed, and if any more hooks can be found, great. SeoR (talk) 00:44, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
Arthur Dantchik
- ... that two Americans, Jeff Yass and Arthur Dantchik, are large funders of the Kohelet Policy Forum, an intellectual driving force of the controversial 2023 Israeli judicial reform package? Source: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-02-01/ty-article/.premium/hartman-institute-received-funds-from-u-s-billionaires-funding-attack-on-israeli-courts/00000186-0d9d-db1b-a1ce-cddde8ed0000
Created by Longhornsg (talk). Self-nominated at 20:13, 27 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Arthur Dantchik; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
Articles created/expanded on March 27[edit]
Joseph (art model)
- ... that Théodore Géricault's paintings of Haitian-born model Joseph are unusual in portraying him as 'an actual, distinct person'? Source: Brathwaite, Peter (2023). Rediscovering Black Portraiture. Cheryl Finley, Temi Odumosu, Mark Sealy (contributors). Los Angeles: Getty Publications. p. 119. ISBN 978-1-60606-816-8.
- ALT1: ... that Joseph may have been shipwrecked three times on The Raft of the Medusa? Source: The Raft of the Medusa (1818–1819) section
- ALT2: ... that Joseph became one of École des Beaux-Arts's only three male models? Source: https://www.radiofrance.fr/franceculture/joseph-ou-le-renouveau-du-modele-noir-au-xixe-5846944
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Battle of Malacca (1641)
- Comment: The first two hooks were Tamzin's suggestions.
Improved to Good Article status by Ppt91 (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 17:45, 30 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Joseph (art model); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- This qualifies for DYK as a recently-reviewed Good Article. As would be expected, it is well-written and carefully referenced. It is easily long enough and is original text with any quotations attributed properly. The image is in the public domain (painter died in 1924) and looks good at thumbnail scale. QPQ done. I find the article as a whole very interesting but feel that the offered hooks don't quite capture this. Checking the source for the first hook, it uses the phrase "an actual, distinct person" but it doesn't convey that this was "unusual". Arguably it is not unusual that a facial portrait by a skilled artist would convey the impression that the subject is an actual person. ALT1 is cleverly phrased, but the "may" is so weak that it pretty much stops it being an impressive hook (I notice the language of the article itself is stronger). ALT2 has the opposite issue: it is an unambiguous statement backed up with an inline citation, but is it surprising that an art school at one point employed only three male models? In the "Late years (1840s–1860s)" section of the article, we learn that Joseph was said to be known to every painter and sculptor in France, and said to be the most beautiful model in Paris. Can the wording of ALT1 be made more categorical, or a new hook made from one of these surprising superlatives? The author has done great work for Wikipedia's coverage of visual art by documenting this person; there now just needs to be a DYK hook worthy of the article. MartinPoulter (talk) 13:56, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Onegreatjoke: Do you have time to take another look at this article? MartinPoulter (talk) 08:44, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
- MartinPoulter Is it okay for me to suggest an alternative, given I was the author? Despite being active in GA, I've never actually participated in DYK before and am not sure whether the protocol allows this. Thanks! Ppt91talk 17:45, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- User:Ppt91. You're very welcome to! MartinPoulter (talk) 17:34, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- MartinPoulter Is it okay for me to suggest an alternative, given I was the author? Despite being active in GA, I've never actually participated in DYK before and am not sure whether the protocol allows this. Thanks! Ppt91talk 17:45, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Onegreatjoke: Do you have time to take another look at this article? MartinPoulter (talk) 08:44, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
Testimonies (novel)
- ... that years before Patrick O'Brian published Master and Commander, the first novel in his Aubrey–Maturin series, he had already used the surnames Aubrey and Maturin in his 1952 novel Testimonies? Source: Jessica Mann, "Fatal Triangle" [10] The Sunday Telegraph. pp. Books, Review, 10. Text reads "Now re-issued as Testimonies, it is O'Brian's first book, similar to the contemporary work only in the perfection of its prose and the brief appearance of the names Aubrey and Maturin, later re-used for his naval heroes."
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Improved to Good Article status by MichaelMaggs (talk). Self-nominated at 17:13, 28 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Testimonies (novel); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
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Overall: @MichaelMaggs: Good article but, I don't really find the hook all that interesting. Can you create a new hook? Onegreatjoke (talk) 20:16, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Onegreatjoke, OK, will have a think tomorrow. The hook would I think be of significant interest to the many readers of Patrick O'Brian's majestic 20-volume Aubrey-Maturin series of historical novels, but I can understand that we may need something of more universal appeal. MichaelMaggs (talk) 21:12, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- It seems like it does this book a disservice to only mention it in comparison to O'Brien's later (and more famous) works. So, I'm thinking of hooks which treat the subject on its own. Maybe something like:
- ALT1: ... that although Patrick O'Brien's 1952 novel Testimonies was reviewed poorly in his native England, it earned high praise in the United States?
- ALT2: ... that Patrick O'Brien's 1952 novel Testimonies got reviews ranging from "clumsy in construction to the point of amateurishness" to "rare and beautiful"?
- Both of those look good. My preference would be for ALT2, but I'd be happy with either. MichaelMaggs (talk) 08:31, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
- Now that I look at it again, it seems kind of wordy. Let me suggest some shorter versions of ALT2:
- ALT2a: ... that Patrick O'Brien's novel Testimonies got reviews ranging from "clumsy in construction to the point of amateurishness" to "rare and beautiful"?
- ALT2b: ... that Patrick O'Brien's Testimonies got reviews ranging from "clumsy in construction to the point of amateurishness" to "rare and beautiful"?
- ALT2c: ... that Testimonies got reviews ranging from "clumsy in construction to the point of amateurishness" to "rare and beautiful"?
- with ALT2b being my favorite. -- RoySmith (talk) 13:38, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- ALT2b works for me. MichaelMaggs (talk) 15:16, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- Now that I look at it again, it seems kind of wordy. Let me suggest some shorter versions of ALT2:
- Both of those look good. My preference would be for ALT2, but I'd be happy with either. MichaelMaggs (talk) 08:31, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 29[edit]
United States v. Rahimi
- ... that ?
- ALT1: ... that a 2023 ruling from the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit invalidates a law preventing people from owning firearms while under restraining orders for domestic abuse?
- ALT2: ... that in United States v. Rahimi, a federal appeals court ruled that a law banning gun possession by domestic abusers subject to restraining orders was unconstitutional?
- Reviewed: Luke Kunin
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saving my spot here, as it's already a little past 7 days, but this article isn't ready for review yet. Hopefully will fix up in the next day or two.Update: Article will need to be updated when the Supreme Court decides on whether to hear the case, but the hooks are not contingent on that decision. Cielquiparle (talk) 11:56, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
Created by Theleekycauldron (talk) and Cielquiparle (talk). Self-nominated at 12:33, 7 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/United States v. Rahimi; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- For a second I thought " ... that ?" was another unconventional hook of yours. BorgQueen (talk) 13:13, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
- yeah, well, no repeats :) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 13:34, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
- Erm... not ready yet? BorgQueen (talk) 11:13, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
- Leeky, I have to mark it ineligible. I was certainly willing to wait for a day or two, as you said "Hopefully will fix up in the next day or two" but zero update yet—and keeping your spot empty, without even any hook, for this long is a clear violation of our rules. Next time, I suggest, you write in draftspace first. BorgQueen (talk) 05:27, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
- My apologies, BorgQueen, I must've missed the last message – I've been checking my pings, but i think my watchlist is getting a little clogged. i do get that rules are rules (guidelines, really), but also, I must say that I don't think it's necessary that the hammer be wheeled down here. For starters, you and I both know that the nomination-to-main-page process takes three weeks, more or less, and nominators can get months of inactivity and poking and prodding to be forced to pull their noms past the finish line. I could just as easily write a hook, have a reviewer say "new enough and long enough, but missing key details", and then claim another spate of time to fix it. I've been on vacation this past week, haven't really had time for much of the 'pedia – might I have another 48 hours to finish up? I'd be happy to withdraw this nom myself, now or if I don't get it ready in time. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 05:48, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
- I'm aware that we have a magic card called IAR. Yay!!! Seriously though, I'll let another reviewer take a look and decide. Are you willing, @Aoidh:? BorgQueen (talk) 05:53, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
- Given that (at the moment) it's just the two of us moving things to queue I want to avoid reviewing things that you also commented on/reviewed just to avoid any appearance of me moving to queue things I reviewed. I'd be happy to defer to @Bruxton and Cielquiparle: and let them decide how best to handle it, they have more experience with this side of it and I'm happy to accept whatever they decide. - Aoidh (talk) 14:19, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
- the promoters will decide my fate. :P theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 16:00, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
- Given that (at the moment) it's just the two of us moving things to queue I want to avoid reviewing things that you also commented on/reviewed just to avoid any appearance of me moving to queue things I reviewed. I'd be happy to defer to @Bruxton and Cielquiparle: and let them decide how best to handle it, they have more experience with this side of it and I'm happy to accept whatever they decide. - Aoidh (talk) 14:19, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
- I'm aware that we have a magic card called IAR. Yay!!! Seriously though, I'll let another reviewer take a look and decide. Are you willing, @Aoidh:? BorgQueen (talk) 05:53, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
- My apologies, BorgQueen, I must've missed the last message – I've been checking my pings, but i think my watchlist is getting a little clogged. i do get that rules are rules (guidelines, really), but also, I must say that I don't think it's necessary that the hammer be wheeled down here. For starters, you and I both know that the nomination-to-main-page process takes three weeks, more or less, and nominators can get months of inactivity and poking and prodding to be forced to pull their noms past the finish line. I could just as easily write a hook, have a reviewer say "new enough and long enough, but missing key details", and then claim another spate of time to fix it. I've been on vacation this past week, haven't really had time for much of the 'pedia – might I have another 48 hours to finish up? I'd be happy to withdraw this nom myself, now or if I don't get it ready in time. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 05:48, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
- Leeky, I have to mark it ineligible. I was certainly willing to wait for a day or two, as you said "Hopefully will fix up in the next day or two" but zero update yet—and keeping your spot empty, without even any hook, for this long is a clear violation of our rules. Next time, I suggest, you write in draftspace first. BorgQueen (talk) 05:27, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
- If it pleases the powers that be, I've finished up (with the help of Cielquiparle) the article, added a hook, and provided a QPQ.
Article is ready for re-review or withdrawal.theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 21:12, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
- Full review required by new reviewer, for full QPQ credit. Thank you. Cielquiparle (talk) 12:24, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 30[edit]
Curtis Aiken
- ... that Curtis Aiken led the West to victory over New York City in Empire State Games scholastic basketball? Source: https://www.proquest.com/docview/424399471
- ALT1: ... that Curtis Aiken set the New York State Public High School Athletic Association single-season boys basketball scoring record? Source: https://infoweb-newsbank-com.chipublib.idm.oclc.org/apps/news/document-view?p=NewsBank&t=&sort=YMD_date%3AA&maxresults=20&f=advanced&val-base-0=%22Curtis%20Aiken%22%20924&fld-base-0=alltext&docref=news/0EB194F41B1386AB
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Thomas Charles Sorby
- Comment: 4th of 10 QPQs for this review
Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self-nominated at 18:57, 1 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Curtis Aiken; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- @TonyTheTiger: New enough and long enough. QPQ present. I much prefer ALT1 to ALT0 here, though both check out (used newspapers.com on the second one), because ALT0 is less approachable to non-sports readers. Why are there all the (disputed) in text, though? I'd like an explanation before I approve. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 01:07, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- Disputed means that the numbers continue to be cited in WP:RS but are not shown at nysphsaa.org. There is a whole paragraph in the text devoted to this subject.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 12:02, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
Ky Schevers
- ... that transgender rights activist Ky Schevers (pictured) transitioned to male, detransitioned to female, then retransitioned? Source: https://abcnews.go.com/US/former-detransitioner-fights-anti-transgender-movement-backed/story?id=92597182 "Schevers was assigned the sex of female at birth and later chose to start gender-affirming care by taking testosterone to transition from female to male in her mid-20s. She stopped taking testosterone, though, in the years that followed while she continued to explore and question her gender, later falling into an online anti-trans group of "detransitioners" – people who once did but no longer identify as transgender. Now, Schevers says she has “retransitioned," identifying as transmasculine and gender queer, which means she identifies with both genders."
- ALT1: ... that transgender rights activist Ky Schevers (pictured) was assigned female at birth, transitioned to male, detransitioned, then retransitioned? Source: Same
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Letitia Christian Tyler
- Comment: Here's one of the few people about whom one can state, with respect to both pronouns and gender identity: "She's a good looking man".
Moved to mainspace by GRuban (talk). Self-nominated at 16:01, 1 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Ky Schevers; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
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Conservatives took her story to make their own political points
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Overall: My biggest problem with this article, GRuban, is that you wrote it and not me. But I'll settle for reviewing it. :D
(#twinning on "BLPs on trans people which cite Evan Urquhart", btw.)
So, regarding the hook, there's the misinterpretation issue raised above, and also stylistically could be better, I think. Namely, the "transgender rights activist" pseudo-title makes it kind of clunky, and also means a large percentage of it is blue. So I'm going to suggest
- ALT2: ... that Ky Schevers (pictured) transitioned to male, detransitioned to female, became a trans rights activist, and then retransitioned as transmasculine genderqueer?
I hesitated slightly on picfree
here because it appears to be by Lee Leveille but uploaded to healthliberationnow.com by Schevers. However, Leveille is listed as co-maintainer of the blog, which I think is sufficient evidence of consent to the release under CC-BY SA.
Again, really interesting article. Looking forward to seeing it on the Main Page once we've tidied up these two small concerns. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 06:08, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
@Tamzin:: Point by point:
- Biggest problem: Ha, ha! Eat your heart out, mop-wielder! Yes, it's a very interesting article and she's a very interesting subject. Thank you very much. Now, to be frank, I try to only write interesting articles. But this is certainly one of them!
- As a related side note, I've now written two articles about notable trans people, this one and Iszac Henig; I'm not really planning to write more, but who knows; I write articles about interesting people when I come across them and see they don't have one yet. However transgender is a touchy subject, that I'm not nearly as knowledgeable about as I may seem. I have been lucky not to have seriously offended people, including my subjects. I had thought to consult with User:Newimpartial whom I had thought an expert in the field, and whom I had collaborated with before, but they were busy initially and more recently seem to have been topic banned from the area . So, in short - though that day may never come - in case it does and the bug bites me again to write another trans-related article, would I be able to consult with you, your adminshipness?
- Conservatives took: Rephrased to make weaker mostly following your guidance.
- convinced - rephrased to make stronger - it's not really debatable that the ruling was a direct outcome of the case. That was the point of the case. Now you could argue that Bell herself didn't do the convincing, her lawyers did, but her bringing the case caused the ruling. That's what rulings are, outcomes of cases, they don't come about without cases.
- image - Lee Leveille, the photographer, is her partner, in multiple meanings of the word; they run the "Health Liberation Now!" organization together, possibly with other volunteers or not, it's not clear, but they're definitely the main people. That's the website where the image was posted, and she didn't post it there, s/he (Leveille) did, s/he's the main website maintainer. Schevers also has two or three blogs, which is what she was asking about in the description, specifically https://reclaimingtrans.com/ and https://medium.com/@kyschevers (she closed down the crashchaoscats blogs since her retransition, but I think there were two or three of those as well). But in the end Schevers didn't post the image on any of those, Leveille posted it on HLN. Let me make all that more clear in the image description, I can see it can be confusing.
- hook - so your proposed changes are threefold: remove the link around transgender rights activist; move it later; and specify transmasculine genderqueer as retransition? I can do two of those. I would, however, like to keep the activist label earlier. I know, you want to say that she only became a trans rights activist after she renounced her detransition. However, that's not really the case; she actually was already (a) a notable activist (b) in the transgender rights field (c) during her detransition. We shouldn't erase that part, it's a big part of her notability, and it would be wrong to call her an anti-trans activist during that time; she was never categorically against gender transition as such, even though conservatives used her story that way. Her line was that it wasn't right for her at the time, so presumably it wasn't right for at least some other people, but she never categorically said it wasn't right for anyone. If you look carefully, she's not categorically against detransition itself either. Maybe we can just say "transgender activist" and not specify for or against? So, let me propose:
ALT3 ... that transgender activist Ky Schevers (pictured) transitioned to male, detransitioned to female, then retransitioned as transmasculine genderqueer? --GRuban (talk) 19:03, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
- @GRuban: Sorry for the slow reply here, currently working on consolidating two residences' worth of people and things. You are of course welcome to swing by any time with articles on trans bios; far preferable than swinging by with a block request.
:P
Although we do seem to have the same number of trans bios, so, not sure how much more I know than you.As to the matter at hand, I'm happy with all prose changes. Regarding the hook, I feel like it's still misleading to lead with "transgender activist", because she wasn't transgender when she transitioned (sorta by definition). Also wouldn't "transgender" be redundant with the rest there? What about something that starts in medias res like- ALT4: ... that after her detransition was used to argue against transgender healthcare, Ky Schevers broke with the detransition movement and later retransitioned as transmasculine genderqueer?
- After all, it's implicit in a retransition that there was a past transition and detransition. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 06:42, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- Eh. If we use the rule that any adjectives about a person have to describe them throughout their lives, rather than just what they are mostly known for, we pretty much can't say anything, since we all start out as infants without much to make us notable (with the possible exception of various royalty notable for being born). I mean, sure, your proposal does work, but it doesn't seem as hooky - as in weird, quirky, interesting, enticing readership - to me. If I can't think of anything better in a day or so, I will go with it. Or maybe you can think of yet a better one? --GRuban (talk) 19:33, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hmm. @leek, got any ideas for hook-sharpening? -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 19:43, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- Well, how about: theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 00:31, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
- ALT4a: ... that after Ky Schevers' detransition was used to oppose transgender healthcare, she retransitioned as transmasculine genderqueer?
- Nice little added snap for the careful readers with the "she/her" moved closer to the "transmasc". Re: adjectives next to a bio in a hook, I tend to take a pretty flexible approach. If they were that thing during the events relayed in the hook, it works – if not, but the label is still important, use "former" or "future". theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 00:31, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hmm. @leek, got any ideas for hook-sharpening? -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 19:43, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- Eh. If we use the rule that any adjectives about a person have to describe them throughout their lives, rather than just what they are mostly known for, we pretty much can't say anything, since we all start out as infants without much to make us notable (with the possible exception of various royalty notable for being born). I mean, sure, your proposal does work, but it doesn't seem as hooky - as in weird, quirky, interesting, enticing readership - to me. If I can't think of anything better in a day or so, I will go with it. Or maybe you can think of yet a better one? --GRuban (talk) 19:33, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- Given that 2 remaining hook contenders are my own wording, I think it's best for a fresh pair of eyes to decide on what hook(s) to approve. Review passes otherwise. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 01:46, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 31[edit]
Articles created/expanded on April 1[edit]
Ranchos of Los Angeles County
- ... that grantees of ranchos of Los Angeles County submitted diseños (example pictured) to the U.S. government? Source: SOURCE: https://exhibits.sos.ca.gov/s/exhibits/item-set/7
- ALT1: ... that at least five ranchos of Los Angeles County were named for Chumash and Tongva villages? Source: SOURCE: Cowan, Robert G. (1956). Ranchos of California; a list of Spanish concessions, 1775-1822, and Mexican grants, 1822-1846. Fresno, Calif.: Academy Library Guild – via HathiTrust.
- ALT2: ... that three ranchos of Los Angeles County were established in 1784, 66 years before California statehood? Source: SOURCE: Robinson, W. W. (1948). Land in California, the story of mission lands, ranchos, squatters, mining claims, railroad grants, land scrip and homesteads. Chronicles of California. Berkeley: University of California Press. pp. 46–47 (1784 in Los Angeles). LCCN 48010331. OCLC 504383948 – via HathiTrust.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Masurian Canal
- Comment: Pic is only for the diseños hook. otherwise nothing or this map from the article, which should be ok at 100px bc of the color File:Old Spanish and Mexican Ranchos of Los Angeles County (Title Insurance & Trust Company, 1929).jpg
Created by Jengod (talk). Self-nominated at 22:54, 2 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Ranchos of Los Angeles County; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- Reviewing Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 18:50, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
- copyvio scan looks ok, I'm not a fan of the green and reds in the table. Recently updated, created article, above 1500. Should note WP:U.S.. I don't like the two Alts, the main hook is ok, but needs rewording, or something to explain what diseños is Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 18:56, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
- ALT 1B ... that grantees of ranchos of Los Angeles County submitted hand-drawn maps called diseños (example pictured) when making their land claims to the U.S. government?
Suggestions on the colors? I wanted to convey "dead end" versus "carried on to the American era" visually. jengod (talk)
- @Lee Vilenski: just wanted to circle back on this. What else can I do on my end? TIA jengod (talk) 17:16, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 2[edit]
Thinzar Shunlei Yi
- ... that Thinzar Shunlei Yi (pictured) is an anti-Tatmadaw activist, even though she was born into a military family? Source: Wazir, Burhan (2021-04-26). "Myanmar's protest movement riven by suspicions and accusations of betrayal". Coda Story. Retrieved 2023-04-01.
- ALT1: ... that Thinzar Shunlei Yi (pictured) hid in the Burmese jungle for a month and joined a rebel militia following the 2021 Myanmar coup d'état? Source: Zoll, Patrick; Bilder, Aung Naing Soe. "Inside the rebel groups fighting Myanmar's ruling regime". Neue Zürcher Zeitung (in German). Retrieved 2023-04-01
- Reviewed:
- Comment: What does the red squares in the date and nom-count table mean?
Shoutout to Marcus MT for initially starting the article Created by Bremps (talk). Self-nominated at 20:46, 2 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Thinzar Shunlei Yi; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- Just a comment: the first reference should use Template:Cite tweet to get rid of the referencing error. That said, I question whether you can ever use a Tweet for confirming a date of birth. Schwede66 21:50, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
List of Alexander McQueen collections
- ... that fashion designer Alexander McQueen drew inspiration for his thirty-six collections from film, history, nature, world religion, and art?
- Film: [11].
- History: Blood Beneath the Skin p. 137–138 and [12]
- Nature: [13]
- Religion: Bethune, Kate. "Encyclopedia of Collections". In Alexander McQueen, ed. Wilcox, Claire (2015), pp. 307, 311, 321. (No online version sorry, but I can email scans if necesary)
- Art: Bethune again p. 308, 310
Created by Premeditated Chaos (talk). Self-nominated at 03:54, 2 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/List of Alexander McQueen collections; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
This Arab Is Queer
- ... that This Arab Is Queer is considered a groundbreaking LGBTQ+ anthology that features 18 queer Arab writers? Source: This Arab is Queer' Is a Groundbreaking New Antholog
- Reviewed:
Created by FuzzyMagma (talk). Self-nominated at 01:00, 2 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/This Arab Is Queer; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- Oppose promotion the article as it has far too much self-sourced content, and that would need to be resolved first. The proposed hook also reads as promotional and uninteresting to a broad audience. (t · c) buidhe 11:33, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
- this is how articles about literary work is written. In an analytical framework that doesn’t require citation about the plot as its written in the book itself. See Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Novels. The hook is referenced but alternatives are welcomed FuzzyMagma (talk) 11:43, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
- Comment: I think the hook is interesting. And per Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Writing about fiction#Plot summaries of individual works, "Because works of fiction are primary sources in their articles, basic descriptions of their plots are acceptable without reference to an outside source." That said, the "Content" section is very long (much longer than the rest of the article put together), so I can understand Buidhe's concern. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 14:36, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Mx. Granger: What about now? I have removed 50% of that section (if you dont include images captions) FuzzyMagma (talk) 14:28, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- Looks more reasonable to me now – thanks. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 21:05, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Mx. Granger: What about now? I have removed 50% of that section (if you dont include images captions) FuzzyMagma (talk) 14:28, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- Comment: I think the hook is interesting. And per Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Writing about fiction#Plot summaries of individual works, "Because works of fiction are primary sources in their articles, basic descriptions of their plots are acceptable without reference to an outside source." That said, the "Content" section is very long (much longer than the rest of the article put together), so I can understand Buidhe's concern. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 14:36, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- this is how articles about literary work is written. In an analytical framework that doesn’t require citation about the plot as its written in the book itself. See Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Novels. The hook is referenced but alternatives are welcomed FuzzyMagma (talk) 11:43, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 3[edit]
Barbara Kennedy
- ... that Barbara Kennedy was the first player to lead NCAA Division I women's basketball in scoring? Source: http://web1.ncaa.org/web_files/stats/w_basketball_RB/2001/Div1.pdf
- Reviewed: 2023 Fort Lauderdale floods Soulbust (talk) 01:13, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- Comment:
QPQ to be done soon.
Created by Soulbust (talk). Self-nominated at 02:02, 9 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Barbara Kennedy; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
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Overall: @Soulbust: Good article. Just waiting on a QPQ. Onegreatjoke (talk) 22:13, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Onegreatjoke: QPQ done now. Thank you for the review Soulbust (talk) 01:15, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
A House Full of Females: Plural Marriage and Women's Rights in Early Mormonism, 1835-1870
... that Pulitzer prize winning historian Laurel Thatcher Ulrich wrote a book about Mormon polygamy using diaries from practicing polygamists?Source: A House Full of Females: Plural Marriage and Women's Rights in Early Mormonism, 1835-1870 (intro)- ALT1: ... that a book about Mormon polygamy claims that polygamy was an early form of feminism? Source: "How the Women of the Mormon Church Came to Embrace Polygamy" Beverly Gage, New York Times, Jan 26, 2017
“A House Full of Females” is sensitive to the difficulty and confusion that accompanied early plural marriage, with its implied loss of status for women. But the book also tells a more complicated tale about women’s on-the-ground experiences. While some women objected to plural marriage, Ulrich notes, others sought it out as a means of securing economic stability or of escaping from abusive marriages. Still others came to embrace plural marriage as a form of communitarianism, in which women shared domestic burdens and labor. Ulrich describes friendships and rivalries between wives (themes that will be familiar to any viewer of HBO’s “Big Love”). She even makes a case for plural marriage as a vehicle for a form of feminist consciousness-raising. Although outsiders referred to Brigham Young’s home as his “harem,” Ulrich writes, “it could also have been described as an experiment in cooperative housekeeping and an incubator of female activism.”
- Reviewed:
Created by NatalieEmma.BYU (talk). Self-nominated at 22:35, 3 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/A House Full of Females: Plural Marriage and Women's Rights in Early Mormonism, 1835-1870; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- New, long enough, neutral, cited, no copyvio detected. The hook is good but cites the book itself (primary citation). Hook fact is from a long quote in the article cited with a primary source. I think another hook with secondary citation would be better choise. -Nizil (talk) 07:31, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
- Nizil Hi Nizil, thanks for the review. This is my first DYK nomination, so I really appreciate your help! I just wanted to let you know that I edited my hook per your suggestions. Thanks! NatalieEmma.BYU (talk) 22:02, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
- @NatalieEmma.BYU: Thank you for new and interesting hook. Please note that when you propose new hook, strike out the old one and add new one as ALT (as above). I have accepted the new hook in good faith as the NYT article is behind paywall. Before I approve and close the DYK, please add the hook fact in article with reference. What is in the hook should be also in the article too as per rules.-Nizil (talk) 06:42, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- Nizil Hi Nizil, thanks for the review. This is my first DYK nomination, so I really appreciate your help! I just wanted to let you know that I edited my hook per your suggestions. Thanks! NatalieEmma.BYU (talk) 22:02, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
Nizil I have added the part of the hook to the page. Thanks! NatalieEmma.BYU (talk) 21:00, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 4[edit]
Lydian–Milesian War
- ... that the tyrant Thrasybulus of Miletus ended the twelve-year Lydian–Milesian War with a fake party? Source: Bennet, C.E.; Frontinus (1 January 1925). Frontinus: Stratagems. Aqueducts of Rome. (Loeb Classical Library No. 174). Harvard University Press. p. 254. ISBN 978-0674991927. Retrieved 23 March 2023.
- ALT1: ... that the tyrant Thrasybulus of Miletus tricked the Lydian king Alyattes into ending the Lydian–Milesian War with a party? Source: Bennet, C.E.; Frontinus (1 January 1925). Frontinus: Stratagems. Aqueducts of Rome. (Loeb Classical Library No. 174). Harvard University Press. p. 254. ISBN 978-0674991927. Retrieved 23 March 2023.
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Hi, I'm not sure if I formatted this right since I've never done this before. A fellow editor recommended me to do this. I'm not certain I phrased the hook correctly, any feedback is welcome. Thanks!
Created by GeneralCraft65 (talk). Self-nominated at 10:19, 5 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Lydian-Milesian War; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
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Overall: @GeneralCraft65: So exciting to welcome a new editor to the DYK fold!
A couple of quick notes here -- DYK requires that every paragraph have at least one source, and I see a couple in the Aftermath section and at least one in the Prelude section that needs at least one to be present. Second, the hook itself isn't cited outside of a quote (I'd just copy the citation because it does appear there) and then also note that the article doesn't say "party". It more refers to a... banquet, in the quote? I'd make sure it's added into the prose outside of it and cited appropriately. Either way, a fascinating read and terrific work, happy to answer follow-up questions. Once those issues have been addressed, will be happy to pass! Nomader (talk) 22:37, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hi, in reviewing my DYK you made two points for improvement;
- every paragraph has to have at least one source
- the hook itself isn't cited outside of a quote [...] and then also note that the article doesn't say "party".
- I believe I have completed the first point, but perhaps I missed something.
- As for the second point, I'm not sure I quite understood the first part. Should I write an additional paragraph explaining the quote in the article. And concerning the second part, I believe that a party/celebration was meant: "[he] bade the men of Miletus all drink and revel together when he should give the word." (Herodotus Histories Vol. I of the Loeb Classical Library edition,
- 1920, p.25); "[he] told the men of Miletus all to drink and celebrate together when he gave the word." (Herodotus, with an English translation by A. D. Godley. Cambridge. Harvard University Press. 1920.); "[he] issued an order that the Milesians should hold themselves in readiness, and, when he gave the signal, should, one and all, fall to drinking and revelry." (Herodotus, Histories, translated by George Rawlinson)
- I chose the word 'party' as a translation of 'revelry' since it is more modern and adds to the intrigue of the story.
However, the Greek word used (κώμῳ) means something along the lines of feast, or as you put it, banquet, but also 'drinkgelag' (it's a Dutch dictionary, apologies) which means 'drinking party'
- Please let me know what else I have to improve (In general too, this is my first real in-depth article, and although I'm quite happy with the C-grade it received, I would love to get an even higher rating). Many thanks, and we'll be in touch!
- P.S. I wasn't sure if this was the right place to contact you, please say so if there is another place. Cheers GeneralCraft65 (talk) 16:47, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
- @GeneralCraft65: You're quite alright! I've moved your comment to the DYK nomination page here so the history can be viewed by anyone who's passing by (or who's eventually promoting the hook too). There's a few things I'd say here:
- The hook itself needs to be present in the prose of the article. Specifically, the DYK rules say that it must be "a definite fact that is mentioned in the article," and "the fact in the hook must be supported in the article by at least one inline citation to a reliable source, appearing no later than the end of the sentence(s) offering that fact. Citations at the end of the paragraph are not sufficient. This rule applies even when a citation would not be required for the purposes of the article."
- In this case, there should be a sentence outside of the quote from Histories that says that the tyrant ended the war with a fake party (you can use a more appropriate word here, I agree that "party" is more hook-y).
- For other notes about the article that aren't relevant for this DYK review, I'll respond back to you on my talk page and ping you there (you should get a notification once I've responded -- I'm happy to help!). Once you've added a reference to a sentence that cites it, I'm good to approve here! Nomader (talk) 04:15, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
- @GeneralCraft65: You're quite alright! I've moved your comment to the DYK nomination page here so the history can be viewed by anyone who's passing by (or who's eventually promoting the hook too). There's a few things I'd say here:
Roy McGrath
- ... that Roy McGrath, who was the chief of staff to Maryland Governor Larry Hogan, was wanted by the Federal Bureau of Investigation and was killed during a shootout by agents? Source: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/roy-mcgrath-captured-larry-hogan-former-chief-of-staff-maryland/
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Created by TDKR Chicago 101 (talk). Self-nominated at 21:53, 4 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Roy McGrath; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
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Overall: @TDKR Chicago 101: Good article. Though, earwig looks to have identified some possible copyvio problems and I would like an explanation for it. Onegreatjoke (talk) 20:12, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
- @TDKR Chicago 101: I'd recommend you to check https://copyvios.toolforge.org/ and check the article for it to see if there are any copyvios that I've called out. I'm not exactly sure if this is a case of WP:MIRROR so I'd like for you to have a look. Onegreatjoke (talk) 02:06, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Onegreatjoke: I've used the tool [14] and it says copyvio is unlikely. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TDKR Chicago 101 (talk • contribs) 16:42, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Onegreatjoke: Failed ping. {{ping|ClydeFranklin}} (t/c) 20:40, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
2023 Tour Championship
- ... that Kyren Wilson won the first four frames in all of his matches at the 2023 Tour Championship? Source: https://www.eurosport.co.uk/snooker/tour-championship/2023/tour-championship-snooker-2023-final-live-shaun-murphy-and-kyren-wilson-go-head-to-head-in-final-sho_sto9538022/story.shtml
- ALT1 ... that Ryan Day made both a maximum break and 16-red clearance at the 2023 Tour Championship?
Created by Lee Vilenski (talk). Self-nominated at 15:04, 4 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/2023 Tour Championship; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
Articles created/expanded on April 5[edit]
Bob Lee (businessman)
- ... that Bob Lee, the developer of Cash App, was known as "Crazy Bob" from his exuberant energy in playing water polo? Source: Washington Post
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Island of Lost Souls (1932 film)
- Comment: Alternate hooks welcome!
Created by Thriley (talk) and ElijahPepe (talk). Nominated by Thriley (talk) at 15:20, 13 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Bob Lee (businessman); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- Should his passing be mentioned? ("the late developer of Cash App"). But I do think that it should be rephrased like "had such exuberant energy playing water polo, that he was known as 'Crazy Bob'?". It reads to be stronger and less... boring? idk. SWinxy (talk) 19:11, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
Jalen Redmond
- ... that football player Jalen Redmond received a college athletic scholarship offer before having even played in a high school game? Source: The Daily Oklahoman
Moved to mainspace by BeanieFan11 (talk). Self-nominated at 18:01, 12 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Jalen Redmond; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
Stuck Inside of Mobile with the Memphis Blues Again
- ... that Bob Dylan has played the song "Stuck Inside of Mobile with the Memphis Blues Again" 748 times in concert performances between 1976 and 2010? Source: http://www.bobdylan.com/songs/stuck-inside-mobile-memphis-blues-again/
Improved to Good Article status by BennyOnTheLoose (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 01:24, 11 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Stuck Inside of Mobile with the Memphis Blues Again; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
Articles created/expanded on April 6[edit]
Lamia Al-Gailani Werr
- ... that Lamia Al-Gailani Werr was the only lifetime honorary member of the British Institute for the Study of Iraq? Source: http://www.bisi.ac.uk/content/dr-lamia-al-gailani-werr
Improved to Good Article status by Joe Roe (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 18:35, 12 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Lamia Al-Gailani Werr; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- Thanks for this, Onegreatjoke. I'd completely forgotten that the GA meant the article was eligible for DYK again. I think we could find some more interesting facts about Al-Gailani, though. For example: – Joe (talk) 04:11, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that Lamia Al-Gailani Werr helped rebuild the Iraq Museum after it was looted in the 2003 American-led invasion of Iraq? Source
Tissue (cloth)
- ... that the word 'tissue' in textiles refers to types of fabric that are delicate, lightweight, and sheer in nature? Source"1":https://archive.org/details/silkbrocades00agra/page/65/mode/1up?q=Tissue: 65 Source"2":https://archive.org/details/dictionaryofcost0000pick/page/352/mode/1up?q=Tissue: 352 Source"3":https://archive.org/details/fairchildsdictio0000unse/page/558/mode/2up: 559
Created by RAJIVVASUDEV (talk). Self-nominated at 02:17, 11 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Tissue (cloth); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- Comment The reference says it is "usually applied" to thin cloth, with nothing much about translucence. But it also means other things. I don't really think the ref supports the hook - plus it is from 1959. Johnbod (talk) 03:02, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Johnbod Thank you for your feedback. I have made the changes and added additional sources which are more relevant.. Could you please review? " "Silkbrocades" Page 65
tissue: A thin transparent lightweight material used mainly for turbans {safas), veils, dupattas (long scarves) and saris. However, sometimes it is also used as dress material. Tissue or tarbana is made of single silk warp and single gold weft.
"A dictionary of costume and fashion : historic and modern : with over 950 illustrations" Text Page 352tissue 1. Sheer, light-weight, open-weave fabric.
RV (talk) 06:42, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
List of all-time WNBA win–loss records
- ... that the Los Angeles Sparks have the most wins and highest winning percentage in WNBA history? Source: https://www.basketball-reference.com/wnba/teams/
- ALT1: ... that after never qualifying for the playoffs, the Portland Fire folded with the lowest winning percentage in WNBA history? Source: https://www.espn.com/wnba/story/_/id/32115379/ranking-best-wnba-franchises-history-seattle-storm-minnesota-lynx-no-1-overall and https://www.basketball-reference.com/wnba/teams/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Exometeorology Soulbust (talk) 01:47, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- Comment:
QPQ to be done soon.
Created by Soulbust (talk). Self-nominated at 04:49, 9 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/List of all-time WNBA win–loss records; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
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QPQ: - Not done
Overall: @Soulbust: Good article. Just need a QPQ. Onegreatjoke (talk) 00:30, 10 April 2023 (UTC)Onegreatjoke (talk) 00:30, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Onegreatjoke: QPQ done now. Thank you for your help with reviews! Soulbust (talk) 01:47, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
International Aviation Meet at Belmont Park
- ... that in 1910 the nine day International Aviation Meet at Belmont Park (pictured) offered prizes valued at US$72,300 (equivalent to $2,093,914 in 2021)? Source: $72,300 in prizes
- ALT1: ... that America's first female licensed pilot (Harriet Quimby) became interested in aviation when she attended the the 1910 International Aviation Meet at Belmont Park (pictured)? Source: In October 1910, she accepted an assignment to cover New York’s Belmont Air Meet. Became the first American woman to earn a pilot’s license (license #37). and Quimby became interested in aviation in late October 1910, when she attended the Belmont Park International Aviation Tournament
- ALT2: ... that American aviator John Moisant won US$10,000 (equivalent to $290,821 in 2021) at the 1910 International Aviation Meet at Belmont Park (pictured) but he was disqualified after he died? Source: aviation prize winners
- ALT3: ... that American aviator John Moisant crashed his plane twice before participating in the 1910 International Aviation Meet at Belmont Park (pictured)? Source: First crash and second crash
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Jenin Camp
Created by Lightburst (talk). Self-nominated at 19:48, 6 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/International Aviation Meet at Belmont Park; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
Articles created/expanded on April 7[edit]
James Farrell (police officer)
- ... that after police officer James Farrell suspected that his friend and colleague Thomas Ryan had shot him, he lost to Ryan in court, and had him arrested? Source: Green, David. "James Farrell". Dictionary of New Zealand Biography. Ministry for Culture and Heritage. Retrieved 23 April 2017. "Farrell was shot several times near his home by a man he recognised as Ryan. Amid enormous publicity Ryan was tried twice for attempted murder [...] After Ryan's eventual acquittal [...] the unhinged Farrell sought revenge by arresting his rival on a firearms charge for which there was little evidence."
- ALT1: ... that police officer James Farrell found his friend and colleague Thomas Ryan in an affair with his wife? Source: Green, David. "James Farrell". Dictionary of New Zealand Biography. Ministry for Culture and Heritage. Retrieved 23 April 2017. "In 1870 Farrell discovered that his wife was having an affair with his friend and colleague Sergeant Thomas Ryan, whom he warned off."
- Reviewed: [[]]
5x expanded by NealeWellington (talk) and Guliolopez (talk). Nominated by Lettherebedarklight (talk) at 01:48, 18 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/James Farrell (police officer); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
Jane LaTour
- ... that Jane LaTour worked as a spot welder and drill press operator before becoming a journalist?
- alt1... that Jane LaTour labored as a spot welder and drill press operator before she was a labor organiser?
- Reviewed:
- Comment: QPQ review and better hooks to follow.
Created by Cielquiparle (talk). Self-nominated at 20:56, 13 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Jane LaTour; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- comment only. Sorry. The image has to be deleted or replaced. Wiki only allows fair use of images if the person is dead. Victuallers (talk) 20:23, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- Victuallers She died on April 3, 2023. She was on RD. But it is allowed for an article to run on RD and then on DYK. Cielquiparle (talk) 20:30, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- I stand corrected. My error. Some may still say that you need to show evidence of trying to find a free to use image. I have put requests on Flickr and that might help. RD? Is the QPQ imminent? Victuallers (talk) 20:49, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- I'm now thinking of combining this with another DYK...so there are a couple of moving pieces. So yes, in all likelihood, a completely different hook and will add QPQs accordingly. Cielquiparle (talk) 21:17, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
United States documents leak of the Russian invasion of Ukraine
- ... that classified documents of the United States were partially leaked onto a Discord server for the video game Minecraft? Source: NBC News
- Reviewed:
- Comment: QPQ not needed.
Created by ElijahPepe (talk). Self-nominated at 00:30, 13 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/United States documents leak of the Russian invasion of Ukraine; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
Hogwarts Legacy
- ... that Hogwarts Legacy is set in the late 1800s, before the events of the Harry Potter series, allowing players to explore a different era of the Wizarding World? Source: [1]
- ALT1: ... that the soundtrack of Hogwarts Legacy was crafted to showcase a distinctive style, while also drawing inspiration from the previous Harry Potter-related compositions of composer John Williams? Source: [2]
- ALT2: ... that during the early-access period of Hogwarts Legacy, the game set a new record on Twitch with the largest number of concurrent viewers for a single-player game in history? Source: [3]
- Reviewed:
- Comment: First time using this template, will check after creation.
Improved to Good Article status by Vestigium Leonis (talk). Self-nominated at 11:18, 8 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Hogwarts Legacy; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- Lots of detail, presented in a way that was easy to follow, in this timely GA article. New enough (submitted within one day of achieving GA), long enough, well sourced with inline citations. Earwig says copyvio unlikely; there are a limited number of matches mostly to do with the gameplay and plot. (There were a couple of places where the article used future tense, like "players will be able to" which probably pre-dated the game's release, and should be updated now that the game is available.) Balances multiple viewpoints regarding the J.K. Rowling-related controversy. No QPQ is required. So the question mark is regarding the hooks: ALT0 checks out. ALT1 feels slightly misleading in that the article actually says that while the soundtrack took inspiration from John Williams, the composers also tried to forge their own style. ALT2 really should use the word "concurrent" because that is what the source says regarding the record number of viewers. @Vestigium Leonis: Could you please take another look at ALT1 and ALT2...? (It really might just be a matter of changing a couple of words in each.) Cielquiparle (talk) 21:56, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
- I rephrased ALT1 and ALT2. Let me know what you think about it.Vestigium Leonis (talk) 08:04, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Vestigium Leonis: ALT2 is better. It was just a little too wordy, so I've replaced "by garnering" with "with" above to shorten it. This leaves ALT1, which is definitely too wordy – "crafted to showcase" and "compositions of composer" are both unnecessarily clunky for a hook. One suggestion is to look at some of the *reviews* of the soundtrack itself, which may offer some choice quotes you could use in the hook; this is often the most attention-getting way to get "clicks" on entertainment-related articles (while maintaining the neutrality of "wikivoice"). So, for example, this GameRant review offers some possibilities like "... that Hogwarts Legacy was praised for making the player feel like the hero of the story "with just six notes"?" or any number of other quotes, but whatever you use in the hook must appear in the article as well. Cielquiparle (talk) 09:46, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Vestigium Leonis: Another tip is to check out WP:DYKSTATS – click around, and you'll see huge tables which show which DYK hooks perform well and which ones don't. I just mention this because this seems like a strong article deserving of lots of views, and plenty of potential for an attention-getting hook, and the past examples may trigger more ideas. Cielquiparle (talk) 10:21, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Vestigium Leonis: ALT2 is better. It was just a little too wordy, so I've replaced "by garnering" with "with" above to shorten it. This leaves ALT1, which is definitely too wordy – "crafted to showcase" and "compositions of composer" are both unnecessarily clunky for a hook. One suggestion is to look at some of the *reviews* of the soundtrack itself, which may offer some choice quotes you could use in the hook; this is often the most attention-getting way to get "clicks" on entertainment-related articles (while maintaining the neutrality of "wikivoice"). So, for example, this GameRant review offers some possibilities like "... that Hogwarts Legacy was praised for making the player feel like the hero of the story "with just six notes"?" or any number of other quotes, but whatever you use in the hook must appear in the article as well. Cielquiparle (talk) 09:46, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- I rephrased ALT1 and ALT2. Let me know what you think about it.Vestigium Leonis (talk) 08:04, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
References
- ^ Phillips, Tom (13 January 2021). "Hogwarts Legacy delayed to 2022". Eurogamer. Archived from the original on 7 February 2023. Retrieved 21 February 2023.
- ^ Garcia, Jose (6 December 2022). "Hogwarts Legacy "Making The Music" Video Details How Challenging The Soundtrack Was To Create". DualShockers. Archived from the original on 1 March 2023. Retrieved 1 March 2023.
- ^ Smith, Ed (9 February 2023). "Hogwarts Legacy sets Twitch world record, beating Cyberpunk 2077". PCGamesN. Archived from the original on 9 February 2023. Retrieved 9 February 2023.
Lorenzo Carfora
- ... that in April 2023, Lorenzo Carfora became the first footballer born in 2006 to start a match in an Italian professional league? Source: Translated and re-adapted from Italian: "Carfora is the youngest of all [these players], so much that he made his debut a month ago against Südtirol, having just turned 17! And in the latest league round, head coach [Roberto] Stellone played him from the start [against] Bari, allowing him to become the first player born in 2006 in Italy to make it to the starting XI."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/John Green
- Comment: I think it's notable enough, since the player has even "beaten" the better-known Simone Pafundi by achieving this feat. I must point out, though, that every single source I've used to justify this statement contains a slight error: they all state that Carfora is the first 2006-born player to start "in Italy", but he's rather the first one to do so in one of our three full-time professional leagues. In fact, it's very likely that other people already managed to do the same before him in the semi-professional tiers of the pyramid... On a side note, my QPQ review is not closed yet, but I hope we'll get it done soon.
Moved to mainspace by Oltrepier (talk). Self-nominated at 09:54, 8 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Lorenzo Carfora; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- Post scriptum: I've changed my QPQ submission, since I actually made a mistake by taking over Wembanyama's article (I had already reviewed it for GA status). Oltrepier (talk) 13:52, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
Quail Island (Victoria)
- ... that government officials tried to prevent a film of starving koalas on Victoria's Quail Island (pictured) from being shown outside Australia? Source: The Koala: "To avoid further embarrassment the government then used the powers of wartime censorship to prevent the film being shown outside Australia."
- ALT1: ... that a housekeeper nearly died on Quail Island (pictured) in Australia after getting lost in a swamp of mangroves? Source: Coastal Guide to Labor and History: "...Mrs. Fordham's near-death experience reported in the Argus on 1 November 1865"
- ALT2: ... that Australia's Quail Island (pictured) was once proposed as the site of a labor site for unemployed men? Source: Coastal Guide to Labor and History: "It was even proposed as a labour colony for unemployed men in 1909."
- ALT3: ... that 12 to 16 feral pigs disturbed the salt marshes in Australia's Quail Island (pictured) by wallowing? Source: Eradication of Feral Pigs on Quail Island: "Based on camera detections, the population was estimated to include 12–16 individuals in 2018. Damage attributable to Feral Pigs on Quail Island was readily identifiable on saltmarsh. as well as throughout the interior of the island. Wallows were created in areas in moist soils (freshwater) as well as throughout areas subject to tidal inundation (Fig. 1)"
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Third nomination; sorry if this is too frequent, I just remembered this existed and am doing a lot of expansion work lately. This is another Unreferenced Articles WikiProject expansion on an island with a lot of interesting stories turned up during research. Hooks in order by preference. ALT1 is vivid but may be too trivia-esque. ALT2 makes me a little on-edge since it's unclear exactly what kind of "labor colony" was proposed, but it is an unusual sourced fact. ALT3 is, yes, blatant piggybacking (no pun intended) off the feral hog meme. Image isn't amazing, but it is free and on the article.
5x expanded by Gnomingstuff (talk). Self-nominated at 14:16, 7 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Quail Island (Victoria); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
Cusrow Baug
- ... that Cusrow Baug in Mumbai had only few tenants in 1950s even at a minimal rent of ₹40 (50¢ US) per month? Source: https://www.hindustantimes.com/art-and-culture/insider-s-guide-to-colaba/story-FthLruNtabAPnRAhZW2YcO.html
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/QPQ pending
- Comment: Might need some copyediting
Created by Nizil Shah (talk). Self-nominated at 13:58, 7 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Cusrow Baug; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- I will review this. TompaDompa (talk) 21:49, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
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- Adequate sourcing: - See below.
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- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
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- Cited: - See below.
- Interesting:
QPQ: - Not done.
Overall: Article created on 4 April, and meets the length requirement. All sources are, as far as I can tell, reliable for the material they are cited for. Earwig reveals no copyvio and I didn't spot any instances of unacceptably WP:Close paraphrasing. There are no obvious neutrality issues. QPQ has not been done. The hook is interesting but the currency conversion is not properly sourced. Some comments on the content:
- The article does indeed need copyediting. There are quite a few missing definite articles, for instance.
The residential blocks of the colony were built between 1934 and 1959.
– if the first blocks were completed in 1934 after two years of construction, the blocks were built between 1932 and 1959, assuming no rounding errors and that no blocks began construction earlier but finished later. The simplest fix would be to say that they were completed between those years (but see also below).honoring her husband and three sons
– I don't find the number of sons in the cited sources.with total 1545 houses in them
– the source says "The properties [...] together have 1,545 flats.", which is quite different.The managing committee is chaired by Wadia family
– by one member of it, per the source.The last of the blocks were completed in 1959.
– are we sure that these were the final ones to be completed? Per the source the S and T blocks were completed in 1959, but according to this source there is also a U block which I would assume came after the T block?- The currency conversion really needs to adjust for inflation or be left out entirely. Going by Template:INRconvert, inflation amounts to almost two orders of magnitude. This of course also applies to the hook.
Ping Nizil Shah. TompaDompa (talk) 22:56, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 8[edit]
Blue bloods in college basketball
- ... that UConn's men's and women's basketball teams are considered blue bloods? Source: https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/now-elite-uconn-joins-college-basketballs-blue-blood-programs-after-winning-its-fifth-ncaa-tournament-title/ (men's); https://www.foxsports.com/stories/college-basketball/is-uconn-a-blue-blood-program-coach-k-thinks-so (women's)
- ALT1: ... that most blue bloods in college basketball coincidentally also wear shades of blue in their uniforms? Source: https://www.theringer.com/march-madness/2023/3/27/23657792/winners-losers-ncaa-tournament-elite-eight-march-madness-2023
- ALT2: ... that the Duke Blue Devils are considered blue-blooded? Source: https://247sports.com/Article/2022-NCAA-Tournament-we-could-have-an-all-Blue-Blood-Final-Four-185156317/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Bahrainization Soulbust (talk) 23:02, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- Comment:
QPQ to be done soon.Created article on 4/8 and it's still 4/15 over here in my time zone. Technically over a week still based on the hour:minute of it, but was hoping it could still be reviewed in good faith per IAR?
Created by Soulbust (talk). Self-nominated at 01:07, 16 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Blue bloods in college basketball; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- @Bruxton and Theleekycauldron: An excellent quirky hook, don't ya think? BorgQueen (talk) 01:11, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- And @Soulbust: yes, IAR accepted! Especially with such great hooks. BorgQueen (talk) 01:13, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- @BorgQueen: Ah I appreciate that a lot, thank you! :) Soulbust (talk) 01:23, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- I'm even willing to donate a QPQ if that will help. BorgQueen (talk) 01:40, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- This might make a good quirky hook.(?) wel, why the heck not? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 16:29, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- @BorgQueen: Ah I appreciate that a lot, thank you! :) Soulbust (talk) 01:23, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- And @Soulbust: yes, IAR accepted! Especially with such great hooks. BorgQueen (talk) 01:13, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
Al-Amir bi-Ahkam Allah
- ... that medieval Muslim historians blamed al-Amir for the loss of much of Palestine to the crusaders but in reality, he played no role in the Fatimid government during that period? Source: Walker, Paul E. (2011). "al-Āmir bi-Aḥkām Allāh". In Fleet, Kate; Krämer, Gudrun; Matringe, Denis; Nawas, John; Stewart, Devin J. (eds.). Encyclopaedia of Islam, THREE. Brill Online. ISSN 1873-9830.
- ALT1: ... that the assassination of al-Amir bi-Ahkam Allah both undid his attempts to concentrate power in the caliph's hands and endangered the very survival of the Fatimid dynasty? Source: Brett, Michael (2017). The Fatimid Empire. The Edinburgh History of the Islamic Empires. Edinburgh: Edinburgh University Press. ISBN 978-0-7486-4076-8. Page 261
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Jabari Smith Jr.
Improved to Good Article status by Cplakidas (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 21:06, 14 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Al-Amir bi-Ahkam Allah; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
Herman Benson, Association for Union Democracy
- ... that Herman Benson started the Association for Union Democracy to fight corruption and racketeering within unions?
- ALT1: ... that before his 100th birthday, Herman Benson wrote his own obituary claiming that his "last, dying words" were a plea for generous donations to the Association for Union Democracy?
- ALT2: ... that Herman Benson started the Association for Union Democracy to fight corruption and racketeering, after several high-profile murders?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/House of Frankenstein (film), Template:Did you know nominations/Beep line
- Comment: Two (2) QPQs since it's a double hook; the reviewer of this double hook also receives 2 QPQ credits. Happy to suggest more ALT hooks if needed. Association for Union Democracy was expanded 5x since 8 April 2023 (per DYKcheck).
Created by Cielquiparle (talk) and Namiba (talk). Nominated by Cielquiparle (talk) at 16:08, 14 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Herman Benson; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
Hong Kong National Front
- ... that Hong Kong High Court Justice Andrew Chan compared the explosives case of Hong Kong National Front convenor Louis Lo to that of the infamous gangster Yip Kai-foon? Source: Ho, Kelly (26 April 2022). "Ex-member of Hong Kong independence group loses appeal bid against 12-year jail term over explosives". Hong Kong Free Press.
- Reviewed:
- Comment: The hook may be too wordy. I would appreciate feedback and suggestions even if you do not necessarily support this nomination.
Created by Yue (talk). Self-nominated at 21:16, 9 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Hong Kong National Front; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- @Yue: Not reviewing, but noting that a hook simply formed around the astonishing fact that there's a HK-independence organization behind a bomb plot would do more nicely than the current hook proposal. Especially since I have no idea who Yip Kai-foon is. Dahn (talk) 10:23, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Dahn: Thank you for the suggestion. You do not have to respond, but perhaps these may be better hooks? I am not quite sure what the rules are around how the Wikilinks are phrased though; does WP:EASTEREGG apply for DYK hooks? I have seen a few that would definitely violate that rule under normal circumstances.
- ALT1: ... that Hong Kong police claimed to have safely blown up 1.5 kilograms of TATP on a factory rooftop, even though 280 grams is enough to blow up an airplane? Sources: Nip, Amy (15 October 2019). "Court told of 'weapon of mass destruction' discovery". The Standard.; Wong, Brian (9 April 2021). "Hong Kong protests: Former pro-independence group member pleads guilty to possessing 1kg of high explosives, faces 20 years' jail". South China Morning Post.
- ALT2: ... that 1.5 kilograms of explosive TATP was found inside a factory unit belonging to a member of the Hong Kong National Front, the largest such discovery in the city since its 1997 handover to China? Sources: Chung, Kimmy (21 July 2019). "Trio arrested over biggest bomb plot includes independence group members". South China Morning Post.; Nip, Amy (15 October 2019). "Court told of 'weapon of mass destruction' discovery". The Standard.
- I personally lean toward the former, and the two could be merged, but I think that would be quite a long DYK hook. Yue🌙 07:43, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Dahn: Thank you for the suggestion. You do not have to respond, but perhaps these may be better hooks? I am not quite sure what the rules are around how the Wikilinks are phrased though; does WP:EASTEREGG apply for DYK hooks? I have seen a few that would definitely violate that rule under normal circumstances.
Articles created/expanded on April 9[edit]
Breaking Barriers 50km
- ... that a world record has been set every year Gqeberha has held its Breaking Barriers 50km event? Sources: [1] https://archive.today/20230416202340/https://www.worldathletics.org/news/press-releases/inaugural-world-50km-records-ratified [2] https://archive.today/20230416202347/https://www.worldathletics.org/news/press-releases/world-records-ratified-yehualaw-knighton-nugent-mokoka [3] https://archive.today/20230409230036/https://www.worldathletics.org/news/press-releases/records-ratified-duplantis-bol-seifu-jackson-sosna [4] https://archive.today/20230409231832/https://www.news24.com/news24/community-newspaper/pe-express/will-yet-another-record-be-broken-20230123
- Reviewed: Fiona Crawley
- Comment: i recognize that the hook is rather trivially true if i do not state that the world record set is a 50k world record, and that the record is set during the event, but i figured that this is suggested by the context, and that a shorter hook is better. note that "event" is used rather than "race" because the event technically has two races.
Created by dying (talk). Self-nominated at 23:29, 16 April 2023 (UTC).
Sleep in the NBA
- ... that mid-day and pregame naps are common among NBA players? Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20120430033559/https://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/07/sports/basketball/07naps.html
- ALT1: ... that LeBron James (pictured) likes to be serenaded by "the soothing sound of rain falling on leaves" when going to sleep on the road? Source: https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27767289/dirty-little-secret-everybody-knows-about
- ALT2: ... that NBA players commonly struggle with sleep deprivation? Source: https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27767289/dirty-little-secret-everybody-knows-about
- ALT3: ... that Kobe Bryant used to "get by on three or four hours" of sleep during his NBA career? Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20141003104113/https://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/28/fashion/arianna-huffington-kobe-bryant-meditate.html
- Reviewed:
- Comment: image only for ALT1. QPQ to be done soon.
Created by Soulbust (talk). Self-nominated at 22:34, 16 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Sleep in the NBA; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- Very interesting article! New enough, long enough, neutral and well-cited. All hooks are interesting, though I prefer ALT0 or ALT3. I noticed a lot of lengthy quotations that made Earwig whine, so I attempted to paraphrase some of the more pedestrian quotes myself. Just waiting on QPQ now. DigitalIceAge (talk) 17:35, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
Vampyrellida
- ... that vampire amoebae (example pictured) are naked? Source: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S143446102100064X?via%3Dihub "All known vampyrellid amoebae are naked and filose, but the different species display a broad morphological variety."
Improved to Good Article status by Snoteleks (talk). Nominated by BorgQueen (talk) at 11:25, 12 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Vampyrellida; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
Two Hundred Rabbits, Lonzo Anderson
- ... that a dream from reading a French folk tale inspired Lonzo Anderson to write Two Hundred Rabbits? Source: P.T. (1968-03-16). "Couple Writes Child's Book About Rabbits". The Courier-News. Bridgewater, New Jersey. p. 14. Retrieved 2023-04-08 – via Newspapers.com.
- Reviewed:
- Comment: WP:DYK#Date requests: Tie-in to Easter Sunday (or for those in select territories, Easter Monday).
Created by Slgrandson (talk). Self-nominated at 01:48, 9 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Two Hundred Rabbits; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- I'll review this one.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 21:40, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- Both articles are well expanded and fairly sourced. Long and new enough as well. Now the hook begins with ...that a dream from reading a French folk tale inspired.
- Isn't from meant to say after? Then the hook (with my adaption) is cited but only included in the article about the book and not the author. Is it possible to include a phrase about his inspiration on the dream? Thank you for the answers and also creating two interesting to read articles.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 22:08, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that as a youth, Lonzo Anderson "grew up rather like a rabbit" while unsupervised outdoors, anticipating his work on Two Hundred Rabbits in 1968? Source: Smaridge, Norah (1977). "Adrienne Adams and Lonzo Anderson". Famous Literary Teams for Young People. Dodd, Mead and Company. pp. 92–93. ISBN 0-396-07407-3. Retrieved 2023-04-06 – via Archive.org. --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 22:18, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
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Overall: Articles are new and long enough. Fairly sourced though I assume AGF on the ones I didn't access. Hook Alt1 appears in both articles. Good to go, if he QPQ issue is solved. Do you need a QPQ (to review a DYK as well) or not. If you have nominated less than five articles yet, you do not need a QPQ.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 04:43, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
Le Corricolo
- ... that Alexandre Dumas' travel book Le Corricolo, published in 1843, contains one of the earliest literary accounts of Neapolitan pizza (pizza maker pictured)? Source: [https://specialistudio.corriere.it/rovagnati/breve-storia-della-pizza/
Created by Alessandro57 (talk). Self-nominated at 10:06, 9 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Le Corricolo; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
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Overall: Gog the Mild (talk) 20:27, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
- The image is not of the article's subject, nor mentioned in or relevant to the hook, and so I think this needs to be a non-image hook.
- The section of prose in the article about a collaborator needs citing.
- The hook is cited, but I am unsure that the source referred to is a WP:RS; I am open to persuasion. The source it is cited to does not cover most of what is in the text cited, ie, neither the quote nor the bit about socio-economic analysis. The source doesn't even name Le Corricolo. Crucially, it does not support "it contains one of the first literary accounts of Neapolitan pizza". It says (my translation) "The first mention of tomato on pizza dates back to ..." - a different thing. And the source does not contain "published in 1843" which you use in the hook.
- The lead is very short - a single sentence, and seems to serve as the first sentence of the main article rather than be " a summary of its most important contents" which "stand[s] on its own as a concise overview of the article's topic" as required by WP:LEAD.
- The hook is about Neapolitan pizza, which is not mentioned in the article.
- It is possible that all of this could be cleared up within the deadline, so I am watchlisting this and notifying the nominator. Gog the Mild (talk) 18:55, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hallo @Gog the Mild: and thanks for reviewing! I'll answer step by step:
- The title of the book is 'Corricolo' (a dialect word incomprehensible even to an Italian), a kind of Neapolitan tilbury, which was the carriage used by Dumas to visit Naples. On commons there are several prints and photos of the corricolo, and the corresponding category starts with the introduction of Dumas' book, so I think there is some relationship. Perhaps we could write neapolitan Corricolo pictured instead of pictured. We could also change the image to a more Dumasian one (on Commons there are a couple of better ones in this sense, with monk, lazarus, scugnizzi and other passengers, exactly as Dumas describes them);
- Within the article the connection is clear. A reader of the hook will be baffled as to why a tilbury is pictured. If you want to propose an ALT with a different image, go for it; remember that the image has to be used in the article.
- Citation added;
- Here I am perplexed, because apart from the quotation about being one of the first literary accounts (which is implied by reading the whole article), the text says it all. I quote it here below in Italian.
La pizza è finita perfino nelle pagine di Alexandre Dumas (padre), ne Il Corricolo, una serie di racconti su Napoli del 1843. Attraverso la descrizione della pizza, lo scrittore francese offre una breve analisi socio-economica della città: “La pizza è: All’olio; Al lardo; Alla sugna; Al formaggio; Al pomodoro; Ai pesciolini. È il termometro gastronomico del mercato: aumenta o diminuisce il prezzo secondo il corso degli ingredienti suddetti, secondo l’abbondanza o la carestia dell’annata”.
- Are you sure you did not click on another link? In any case, I have added three other links, one of which is the Italian Encyclopaedia (surely an RS) where I have also quoted the sentence referring to the testimonies, the second is an academic paper and the third is a blog, but it is interesting because it photographs the original text. Actually, that of Dumas in the Corricolo is the first literary testimony to the existence of Neapolitan pizza: regarding the year, on some sources you find 1835 (the year of his trip to Italy, on some 1841 (the year of the beginning of the publication of the book), , on others 1843 (the year of the end of the publication of the book)
- I'm sure. I was referring to the source you provide in this template. Your additional references in the article resolve this.
- You are right here, the lead is definitively too short, I have expanded it a bit.
- Looks good. As the lead is meant to be a summary of the main article, everything in the lead should also be in the article - usually in greater detail. Could you check that this is the case?
- Neapolitan pizza is mentioned towards the end of the article, before the quote, and as you can see from the references a not insignificant part of the book's notability comes from being one of the first sources on Neapolitan pizza, so this information is important.
- Fair enough.
- That's all for now, bye. Alex2006 (talk) 13:01, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- To summarise: I am waiting for your confirmation re the lead, you to do a QPQ, and - optionally - for you to propose an ALT with a different image. Or a completely different ALT which is relevant to this image. Gog the Mild (talk) 13:48, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hallo @Gog the Mild:, it's me again!
- Lead is referenced;
- QPQ is done;
- About the hook, I changed the picture with one of a pizzajolo in Naples in the 1830s. What do you think about it? If you don't like, I have an idea about another one...
- Bye, Alex2006 (talk) 17:48, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hallo @Gog the Mild:, it's me again!
- To summarise: I am waiting for your confirmation re the lead, you to do a QPQ, and - optionally - for you to propose an ALT with a different image. Or a completely different ALT which is relevant to this image. Gog the Mild (talk) 13:48, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- Are you sure you did not click on another link? In any case, I have added three other links, one of which is the Italian Encyclopaedia (surely an RS) where I have also quoted the sentence referring to the testimonies, the second is an academic paper and the third is a blog, but it is interesting because it photographs the original text. Actually, that of Dumas in the Corricolo is the first literary testimony to the existence of Neapolitan pizza: regarding the year, on some sources you find 1835 (the year of his trip to Italy, on some 1841 (the year of the beginning of the publication of the book), , on others 1843 (the year of the end of the publication of the book)
- Looking good. Nice image, needs a US PD tag. Change pizzajolo in the image caption to "pizza maker" - this is the English language Wikipedia. Likewise in the hook above. Nearly there I think. Gog the Mild (talk) 19:00, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks, changed (but wouldn't be better "pizza baker"?)! Regarding the image, currently it has a {PD-old-100-1923} Tag. Looks like it is also valid in the US ("This work is in the public domain in the United States because it was published (or registered with the U.S. Copyright Office) before January 1, 1928."). Is it OK?
- bye, Alex2006 (talk) 20:17, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
- Yep, adding "-1923" has fixed it.
- I have taken "pizza maker" out of italics in the caption.
- Now GTG. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:27, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Alessandro57 and Gog the Mild: I have some concerns about close paraphrasing. The following sentence from the article jumped out at me:
The book is an extraordinary blend of literature and of real life, allowing the reader to grasp the city in its bustle and history.
This corresponds to the following passage from the source:Le Corricolo, extraordinaire mélange de littérature et de vécu, permet de saisir Naples dans son bouillonnement et son histoire.
Google translation: "Le Corricolo, an extraordinary mixture of literature and experience, allows us to grasp Naples in its ferment and its history." Checking further, I found more similarities between the article and the above-linked source, eg.Dumas only stayed in the city for three weeks, but this time was enough for him to capture the essence of the city
(compareDumas ne reste donc que trois semaines dans la ville, mais ce temps lui suffit pour saisir l’essence de la cité
). Some other passages, eg. the sentence beginningThis explains the book's effectiveness...
have been reworded enough to avoid close paraphrasing, but clearly offer opinions that should be attributed to the source rather than stated as fact. I haven't checked out the whole article, these are just examples of some of the issues I found. Sojourner in the earth (talk) 09:57, 15 April 2023 (UTC)- @Sojourner in the earth and Gog the Mild:, thanks for noticing it! I will check and when necessary paraphrase again the text and notice you when I am finished. Bye, Alex2006 (talk) 11:35, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Sojourner in the earth:, please check if now it is better. Sorry for what happened: usually I check the text with Earwig, but sometimes the application "forgets" some sources. :-( Alex2006 (talk) 12:29, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- Earwig only detects exact matches, so it doesn't pick up on close paraphrasing at all, let alone from foreign-language sources. I don't believe the changes you made to the passages I mentioned are sufficient; you have replaced some words with synonyms but the sentence structure remains the same. These passages (and others in the article that are too close to the sources) should be completely rewritten in your own words. See WP:CLOP#How to write acceptable content for more advice. Sojourner in the earth (talk) 20:05, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- In this case Earwig's usefulness is very limited. Thanks for posting the essay about close paragraphing, now I get it (I hope). However, consider that some statements, such as those on the "sentimental consonance" between Dumas and Naples, are not characteristics of a single source, but are universal. I found them written everywhere, in French and Italian sources, ranging from 1950 to ten years ago. Can you please check again, @Sojourner in the earth:? Thanks! Alex2006 (talk) 09:23, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- I appreciate your efforts to resolve this. Let me first address your comment on the "sentimental consonance". The idea that Dumas's personality was similar to that of the people of Naples, and that this contributed to the success of the book, may be stated in numerous sources (I take your word for it), but it is still an opinion, and as such should not be stated in WP-voice as fact. You've already fixed this particular sentence, but there are others like it in the same paragraph, such as
This makes Le Corricolo a valuable and still irreplaceable guide to discovering the city
. The relevant policy is WP:Subjective. To expand on the example given in that section, the article on William Shakespeare says "He is regarded as the greatest writer in the English language", but doesn't say he is the greatest writer in the English language, regardless of how many people hold that opinion.Tonal problems can be an unintended consequence of close paraphrasing. Your source is a critical review, but you are writing an encyclopedia article; the information must be organized and presented in a different way. With your latest changes to the article, you've again reworded some sentences, but I still don't believe you're fully understanding the problem. For example, the source says that Dumas's technique of shifting from one genre to another gives the reader the impression that they are boarding the corricolo and travelling alongside Dumas in his journey through Naples. This is not a simple fact that can be restated in different words; it is the creatively-expressed opinion of the author. As long as these two ideas are linked together, i.e. that the shifting of genres creates an immersive experience, you are engaging in close paraphrasing. I don't have the expertise to say whether your latest alteration of that passage takes the text far enough away from the source to be non-problematic from a legal point of view; but the text still expresses a non-neutral opinion which should have in-text attribution.To be blunt, I don't believe that extensive close paraphrasing can ever be "fixed" except by erasing the article and starting again. It introduces so many problems, and once you start playing the game of rewriting individual sentences in slightly different ways, you're only covering up those problems, not fixing them. However, other DYKers are more tolerant of this, so I suggest you wait for someone else to come along and conduct a new review. I would like to re-iterate, though, for the benefit of the next reviewer, that I only spot-checked a few sentences, and my first comment in this thread should not be taken as an exhaustive survey of the article's close paraphrasing problems. Sojourner in the earth (talk) 14:40, 16 April 2023 (UTC)- No, I have you to thank for explaining to me where the problems are in this article. If so, then the solution is to remove the whole critical part, and leave only the historical part, i.e. the facts. When it was written, where, why, etc. Remove the opinions, even if qualified and unanimous, and leave the facts. Do you agree, @Sojourner in the earth:? That's what I did, I hope that what remains is ok. Alex2006 (talk) 15:02, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- I appreciate your efforts to resolve this. Let me first address your comment on the "sentimental consonance". The idea that Dumas's personality was similar to that of the people of Naples, and that this contributed to the success of the book, may be stated in numerous sources (I take your word for it), but it is still an opinion, and as such should not be stated in WP-voice as fact. You've already fixed this particular sentence, but there are others like it in the same paragraph, such as
- In this case Earwig's usefulness is very limited. Thanks for posting the essay about close paragraphing, now I get it (I hope). However, consider that some statements, such as those on the "sentimental consonance" between Dumas and Naples, are not characteristics of a single source, but are universal. I found them written everywhere, in French and Italian sources, ranging from 1950 to ten years ago. Can you please check again, @Sojourner in the earth:? Thanks! Alex2006 (talk) 09:23, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- Earwig only detects exact matches, so it doesn't pick up on close paraphrasing at all, let alone from foreign-language sources. I don't believe the changes you made to the passages I mentioned are sufficient; you have replaced some words with synonyms but the sentence structure remains the same. These passages (and others in the article that are too close to the sources) should be completely rewritten in your own words. See WP:CLOP#How to write acceptable content for more advice. Sojourner in the earth (talk) 20:05, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Sojourner in the earth:, please check if now it is better. Sorry for what happened: usually I check the text with Earwig, but sometimes the application "forgets" some sources. :-( Alex2006 (talk) 12:29, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Sojourner in the earth and Gog the Mild:, thanks for noticing it! I will check and when necessary paraphrase again the text and notice you when I am finished. Bye, Alex2006 (talk) 11:35, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 10[edit]
Walter Nash
- ... that Walter Nash has been credited with turning the Labour Party into a fully functioning entity by establishing an efficient organisational structure and paying off the party's debts? Source: Sinclair, Keith (1976). Walter Nash. Auckland: Oxford University Press. ISBN 0-19-647949-5. Page 64.
- ALT1: ... that Walter Nash served as Minister of Finance for the longest continuous time being 14 years? Source: Sinclair, Keith (1976). Walter Nash. Auckland: Oxford University Press. ISBN 0-19-647949-5. Pages 121-122.
- ALT2: ... that at 86 years old, Walter Nash was the oldest person to be a serving New Zealand MP? Source: Freer, Warren (2004). A Lifetime in Politics: the memoirs of Warren Freer. Wellington: Victoria University Press. ISBN 0-86473-478-6. Page 152.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Free State Gold Rush
- Comment: There's a lot of hooks you can do with this guy.
Improved to Good Article status by Kiwichris (talk), Schwede66 (talk), and Marshelec (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 17:53, 16 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Walter Nash; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
Barclays Bank, Enfield
- ... that in 1967, the world's first ATM was installed at a branch of Barclays Bank in north London? Source: [15]
- Reviewed: Francois Massaquoi
- Comment: Still putting the final touches to it. Note: The ATM in the article is not the original.
Created by Philafrenzy (talk), Edwardx (talk), Whispyhistory (talk), and No Swan So Fine (talk). Nominated by Philafrenzy (talk) at 08:21, 16 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Barclays Bank, Enfield; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- In progress... Girth Summit (blether) 17:25, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- Philafrenzy - the article has an 'under construction' template on it. Are you still working on it, are you ready for review? Girth Summit (blether) 17:27, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- Should be able to finish it in the next couple of days, or sooner. Thanks. Philafrenzy (talk) 20:45, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- Well, I'll start the review now (I have a bit of time), and go over it again when you're properly done.
- The article was created on 10 April, so was new enough when the DYK nom was submitted, it is plenty long enough, it is neutrally written, and is free of any copyvio I can detect. Almost every assertion is supported by an inline citation to a reliable source, except for a couple about its location on the street which you have tagged as needing a citation - I assume that will be addressed in your finishing off?
- The hook is interesting, and is supported by the citation offered in the nomination.
- QPQ has been done, and the image is appropriately licensed.
- A couple of suggestions:
- I think that it would be possible to expand the lead slightly, and include the hook fact in the lead.
- I find the following sentence a bit confusing:
According to its staff, the Enfield branch was easily granted permission, had a "good pavement facade, sufficiently high windows" and was near enough to London, to be chosen rather than a big city.
Granted permission for what, and from whom? Are we talking about planning permission here, or just getting selected to be the first bank to receive one of the machines?
- All in all, this will be good to go when the missing citations are added; my suggestions above are just that, I don't need them to be addressed for this to pass. Girth Summit (blether) 14:59, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
Micro Star v. FormGen Inc.
- ... that Micro Star v. FormGen Inc. ruled that video game copyright owners have the exclusive right to make sequels? Source: https://scholarship.law.bu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2537&context=faculty_scholarship [Citation 15]
- ALT1: ... that some scholars have cited Micro Star v. FormGen Inc. as a pivotal legal holding on the issue of unauthorized derivative works, including mods and other user-generated content? Source: Gard, Elizabeth Townsend; Gard, W. Ronald (January 12, 2017). Video Games and the Law. Taylor & Francis. p. 52. doi:10.4324/9781315209210. ISBN 978-1-351-80598-8. , Dannenberg, Ross A. (2010). Computer Games and Virtual Worlds: A New Frontier in Intellectual Property Law. American Bar Association. pp. 72–73. ISBN 978-1-60442-750-9.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Casey Newton
Improved to Good Article status by Jorahm (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 19:01, 15 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Micro Star v. FormGen Inc.; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- I have watched lots of other editors come in and make these DYK templates after I've done the work on GA. It is nice to see but I am not sure if I am supposed to comment or if I can even provide any kind of input. I would change a few words to make the DYK comment more accurate: ALT2: ... that the video game case Micro Star v. FormGen Inc. affirmed that copyright owners have the exclusive right to make sequels?Technically the precedent for this is much older but Micro Star is a more modern case applying it directly to video games. Jorahm (talk) 19:35, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
Minky Woodcock
- ... that comic book detective Minky Woodcock was based on model Pearls Daily? Source: https://www.broadwayworld.com/off-broadway/article/BWW-Review-Cynthia-von-Buhlers-Entrancing-Immersive-Adventure-THE-GIRL-WHO-HANDCUFFED-HOUDINI-20181030
- Reviewed:
Created by BoomboxTestarossa (talk). Self-nominated at 14:40, 10 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Minky Woodcock; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- Comment: @BoomboxTestarossa:I have some concerns; therefore, the article has been tagged. You need to address the issues so that it can be considered for DYK approval WP:DISPUTETAG Thanks RV (talk) 09:18, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
- Comment: @RAJIVVASUDEV: appreciate it, I will look at retooling the article, thank you! =) BoomboxTestarossa (talk) 09:38, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hook also doesn't make much sense to people unfamiliar with Pearls Daily (like I am); can other proposals be suggested here? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:27, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 11[edit]
United States v. Strong
- ... that in United States v. Strong the First Circuit court upheld the conviction of a man for creating a hazard on Federal court property because he covered a court restroom in his own feces? Source: New York Daily News Salon
- Reviewed: Robe of State
Created by Dr vulpes (talk). Self-nominated at 21:14, 18 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/United States v. Strong; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- The hook is difficult to resist, but I am not satisfied with the sources and the amount of coverage I see. It appears to me that the case has not received enough in-depth coverage in reliable sources, i.e. something more reputable than salon.com, to warrant a standalone article. Furthermore, the tone of the article strikes me as too casual for an encyclopedia. I suggest that we first resolve the question of encyclopedic notability. Surtsicna (talk) 19:50, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- Surtsicna, Would these sources address your concerns? I've added them to the article, they might be a bit hard to access I had to use the wikipedia library. Russell, Eric (26 Jul 2013) "After two years in courts, bathroom-mess case ends". Portland Press Herald.; Shepherd, Chuck (2013-09-12). "New of the Weird: Fine Points of the Law". Sun-News.; 1st Circuit affirms conviction of man who leaves nasty surprise in court bathroom". Massachusetts Lawyers Weekly. 2013-08-15. Dr vulpes (💬 • 📝) 01:01, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
Lena Scissorhands
- ... that Lena Scissorhands, (pictured) is said to be "the most eccentric vocalist of Moldova"? Source: https://sonichits.com/artist/Infected_Rain
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Clara Stauffer
- Comment: Nice work for Women in Red. Thank you
Created by Fixer88 (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 07:24, 17 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Lena Scissorhands; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
El-Tigani el-Mahi
- ... that El-Tigani el-Mahi was dubbed the "Father of African Psychiatry"? Source: The Mahi-Baasher Heritage, page 89
- ALT1: ... that El-Tigani el-Mahi pioneered studying magic and zār relationship to mental health? Source: Sickness and the spirits: a study of the Zaar spirit possession cult in the northern Sudan page 280Al-Tijani Al-Mahi.. Pioneer of psychiatry in Sudan.. Old stories about Al-Zar (in Arabic)
- ALT2: ... that El-Tigani el-Mahi had in his collection coins that date back to the Alexander the Great era? Source: Professor Tigani El Mahi: Short biography and photos
- Reviewed:
- Comment: I like the ALT1, magic seems to attract people to read an article
Created by FuzzyMagma (talk). Self-nominated at 09:02, 15 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/El-Tigani el-Mahi; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
2023 Anheuser-Busch boycott
- ... that country singer Kid Rock filmed himself shooting several cases of Bud Light with an assault rifle after the brand did a partnership with Dylan Mulvaney? Source: https://variety.com/2023/music/news/bud-light-dylan-mulvaney-conservative-artists-1235575691/
- ALT1: ... that after Kid Rock filmed himself shooting cases of Bud Light in response to a collaboration the brand did with trans woman Dylan Mulvaney, a photo surfaced of him chugging a bottle of Bud Light with a drag queen? Source: https://www.newsweek.com/kid-rock-mocked-photo-drinking-bud-light-drag-queen-1793067
- ALT2: ... that in response to a collaboration Bud Light did with trans woman Dylan Mulvaney, people filmed themselves driving over Bud Light bottles? Source: https://www.businessinsider.com/right-wingers-destroying-budweiser-beer-dylan-mulvaney-lgbtq-marketing-2023-4
- ALT3: ... that after a boycott of beer-conglomerate Anheuser-Busch over a partnership done with their Bud Light brand and Dylan Mulvaney, beer salesmen complained of not being able to feed their families? Source: https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-anheuser-busch-ceo-resign-bud-light-fallout-1793729
- ALT4: ... that after trans woman Dylan Mulvaney was sponsored by Bud Light, American conservatives boycotted the brand and its parent company of Anheuser-Busch? Source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/danidiplacido/2023/04/11/why-does-the-bud-light-backlash-feel-so-desperate/?sh=447818994433
- Reviewed:
Created by Knightoftheswords281 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:15, 12 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/2023 Anheuser-Busch boycott; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- Passerby comment (this is not a review, others should still feel free to grab this as a review). Given that there's plenty of sources on this topic and that it's pretty controversial, I'd suggest removing Newsweek as a reference from the article and from any proposed hooks without a truly powerful justification for why any specific Newsweek story is reliable. See WP:NEWSWEEK, that publication has gone downhill since 2013 or so and just makes stuff up these days, and is considered a suspicious-if-not-entirely-deprecated source. While here, I'd check the sources against WP:RSP in general - WP:FORBESCON suggests that using the hook referenced to a Forbes contributor is also not great and should be replaced if possible, unless there's an independent case to be made that the specific author is reliable. SnowFire (talk) 03:28, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- an active merge discussion and three maintenance tags are all disqualifying – it'll need to come off before a review. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 16:52, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
Snoot Game
- ... that Snoot Game is a critically-panned alt-right parody of Goodbye Volcano High? Source: https://www.thepinknews.com/2022/11/07/goodbye-volcano-high-snoot-game-4chan/
- ALT1: ... that Snoot Game was condemned as "a vile anti-LGBTQ+ clone" of Goodbye Volcano High? Source: https://www.thepinknews.com/2022/11/07/goodbye-volcano-high-snoot-game-4chan/
- Reviewed:
Created by CJ-Moki (talk). Self-nominated at 05:37, 11 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Snoot Game; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
Articles created/expanded on April 12[edit]
London shrunk
- ... that 'London shrunk' was a pre-shrinking textile finishing method used to make wool worsteds a more dimensionally stable material? Source: https://archive.org/details/textiles0010kado/page/364/mode/1up
Created by RAJIVVASUDEV (talk). Self-nominated at 04:49, 18 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/London shrunk; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
Articles created/expanded on April 13[edit]
Juice Scruggs
- ... that close to two years after getting into a serious car accident that sidelined him for a full season, football player Juice Scruggs returned to the field, and one year later was named All-Big Ten? Source: SI (this verifies that he was third-team All-Big Ten (PFF) in 2021) - SI 2 and 3 (discussing injury and time it took to return)
Created by BeanieFan11 (talk). Self-nominated at 00:12, 20 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Juice Scruggs; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
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Overall: @BeanieFan11: Good article. Just need a QPQ. Onegreatjoke (talk) 17:26, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
Paul Hinrichs
- ... that after he retired from professional baseball, Paul Hinrichs became a Lutheran minister? Source: [16]
- Reviewed: First qpq of two from Template:Did you know nominations/Order of Excellence for Women
5x expanded by Muboshgu (talk) and Sunshineisles2 (talk). Nominated by Muboshgu (talk) at 21:12, 13 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Paul Hinrichs; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- Hi Muboshgu (talk) article more than 5x expanded from 11 April, I didn't spot any overly close paraphrasing from the principal online source; hook fact is interesting enough to me, cited and checks out. My only query is that much of the information in the infobox is only stated there and is not cited, is there a source that needs to be added? - Dumelow (talk) 10:42, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hi, sorry I forgot to respond. What isn't cited in the infobox? His handedness, but is there anything else? That can be verified at the external links in the article, like Baseball Reference, and since it isn't controversial, it's usually how we verify it. – Muboshgu (talk) 04:04, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
Abingdon bun throwing
- ... that today, to mark the coronation of Charles III and Camilla, Abingdon Town Council will throw thousands of currant buns from the roof of the County Hall (building pictured)? Source: "Bun throwing in Abingdon is staged to celebrate major Royal occasions, and now it will return to mark the King's Coronation. There will be a bun throwing in the market place on Sunday, May 7 at 4pm as part of the weekend of Royal celebrations." from: Ffrench, Andrew (12 April 2023). "Bun throwing is back in Abingdon". Oxford Mail. Retrieved 13 April 2023. and "Bun throwings are held to mark a royal occasion and Councillors in full ceremonial robes climb to the top of the County Hall and throw several thousand currant buns down at the chanting crowds filling the Market Place below." from: "Bun throwing". Abingdon on Thames Town Council. Retrieved 13 April 2023.
- ALT1: ... that the town of Abingdon-on-Thames, England, marks significant royal occasions by throwing thousands of currant buns from the roof of its County Hall (pictured)? Source: as above
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Daddy, what did you do in the Great War?
- Comment: ALT0 to run on 7 May (NB this is the day following the coronation)
Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Self-nominated at 10:56, 13 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Abingdon bun throwing; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- I'll have a look at this piece of fun. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:52, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
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Overall: You need to add (pictured) to ALT0. Which is the one I am inclined to recommend. Gog the Mild (talk) 21:03, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
- Gog the Mild (talk) 21:03, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 14[edit]
University College London
- ... that University College London is the second largest university in the United Kingdom by enrolment? Source: https://www.hesa.ac.uk/data-and-analysis/students/where-study
- ALT1: ... that University College London was the first university institution to be established in London and the first in England to be entirely secular, admitting students regardless of their religion? Source: Harte, Negley; North, John (2004). The World of UCL 1828–2004. London: UCL. pp. 29–32. ISBN 978-1-84472-025-5. , http://www.secularism.org.uk/news/2012/01/students-defend-freedom-of-expression-at-university-college-london
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Canthotomy
Improved to Good Article status by Robminchin (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 20:29, 20 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/University College London; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- Non-reviewing comment: the above seem pretty boring. Why not "...that the 1922 kidnapping of Phineas, the mascot of University College London, sparked a conflict that involved rotten apples, castration, and the embalmed head of Jeremy Bentham?" ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 11:09, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
Hanna Cavinder
- ... that Hanna and twin sister Haley Cavinder made over $1million in student athlete compensation within the first year of NCAA legalization of monetizing personality rights? Source: https://nypost.com/2022/06/08/cavinder-twins-now-millionaires-have-message-for-haters/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Thomas Charles Sorby
- Comment: 7th of 10 QPQs for this nomination
Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self-nominated at 20:30, 19 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Hanna Cavinder; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- Seeking advice on use of the twins as a subject versus use of Cavinder as a subject in this article.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:35, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
Falaki Shirvani
- ... that Falaki Shirvani may have died from stress that he endured during his imprisonment? Source: https://archive.org/details/dli.ministry.12753 , Page 59
- ALT1: ... that Falaki Shirvani is the first known Shirvani composer of the Habsiyat genre and played a role in its early development? Source: Gould, Rebecca Ruth (2022). The Persian Prison Poem. Edinburgh University Press. ISBN 978-1474484015. Page 78
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Dost Mohammad Khan
Improved to Good Article status by HistoryofIran (talk) and Amitchell125 (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 19:35, 16 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Falaki Shirvani; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
Associated Students of the University of California, Los Angeles
- ... that when UCLA was founded in 1919, the students were tasked with providing numerous services, including athletics, housing, and parking? Source: https://dailybruin.com/1998/05/04/role-of-asucla-changes-over-ti
Created by ROADKILL (talk) and Dr vulpes (talk). Nominated by Evrik (talk) at 17:39, 14 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Associated Students of the University of California, Los Angeles; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- I'll review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:30, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
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Overall: @Evrik: Looks pretty much good, though in the source I am only seeing it talk about athletics and parking, not housing. Could you point out where it says that? BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:43, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- @BeanieFan11: look at : dailybruin
.com /2014 /03 /06 /asucla-looks-to-revamp-operations-amid-falling-income --evrik (talk) 03:28, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
Praefectus vigilum
- ... that the praefectus vigilum during the Great Fire of Rome (pictured) under Nero is unknown? Source: Daugherty (1992) p. 235 Jstor "The only Roman official mentioned in the context of firefighting is Ofonius Tigellinus (Tac. Ann. 15.40.3), who at the time was the praefectus praetori"
- ALT1... that the praefectus vigilum commanded seven cohorts of 560 or 1,000 firefighters, each responsible for two regions of Rome? Source: Daugherty (1992) p. 230 Jstor "The cohortes vigilum or vigiles were led by the praefectus vigilum" "Seven tribunes led each of the seven cohorts. These consisted of either 560 or 1000 men" " the City was divided into 14 regions and ... each Cohort seems to have been responsible for two of them."
Converted from a redirect by Alessandro57 (talk). Self-nominated at 13:54, 14 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Praefectus vigilum; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- Hi Alessandro57 (talk), review follows: article created 14 April and exceeds minimum length; A few queries on sourcing:
- Sorry, not familiar with Roman documents on Wikipedia. Is the way they have been cited here in line with best practice? To a layman it doesn't provide much of a clue where to go to verify the information
- What makes https://www.ostia-antica.org/ a reliable source? I couldn't find an "about us" page, I see it mentions the "Parco Archeologico di Ostia Antica" is it produced by them?
- You are missing a citation for "The troops received accommodation in the city and were paid from the state treasury"
- You have not cited the last 15 entries on the list of prefects
- If you could take a look at those points I'll come back to complete the review after. Thanks - Dumelow (talk) 06:29, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
Current nominations[edit]
Articles created/expanded on April 15[edit]
Knights Contract
- ... that the team working on the game Knights Contract researched about European folklore on witches and witch hunts for the game? Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20110117052258/http://www.bandainamcogames.co.jp/cs/list/kc/blog/?p=18 , https://web.archive.org/web/20110425225553/http://gamefanmag.com/gf-features/an-interview-with-knights-contract-director-yuichi-ueda
Improved to Good Article status by ProtoDrake (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 02:38, 20 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Knights Contract; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
Aile Asszonyi
- * ... that in Strauss' Elektra, Aile Asszonyi (pictured) was said to be convincing as a woman close to madness? Source: "(In Elektra ... Miss Aile) ... convincing from the first notes with her energetic, voluminous and highly dramatic voice. As the traumatized daughter of Agamemnon, who scares her fellow human beings with her stubborn gaze, she was also able to perform in the room with maximum stage presence. Asszonyi portrayed Elektra, who was able to convey the deep psychological madness of her role in full in both scene and voice." (German source, via Google Translate)
- * ALT1: ... that in in the title role of Richard Strauss' Elektra, Aile Asszonyi (pictured) was said to be convincing as a woman close to madness? (Source as ALT0)
- * ALT2: ... that as Elektra in the opera by Richard Strauss, Aile Asszonyi (pictured) was said to be convincing as a woman close to madness? (Source as ALT0)
- Reviewed: Richmond, Indiana facility fire
- Comment: The expansion does not show up in DYK check, but a quick analysis of the history page shows the entire expansion done on 15 April, when the expansion went from 62 characters to 2790 characters.
5x expanded by Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Storye book (talk) at 15:11, 19 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Aile Asszonyi; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
House of Frankenstein (film)
- ... that the film House of Frankenstein was so popular that it was played all through the night at the Rialto Theatre and then played for three weeks? Source: Mank, Gregory William (2022). Angels and Ministers of Grace Defend Us!. McFarland & Company. ISBN 978-1-4766-6553-5. Page 355
- ALT1: ... that Film historian Gregory W. Mank declared that, on House of Frankenstein's premiere in New York City, critics "made mincemeat" out of it? Source: Mank, Gregory William (1981). It's Alive! The Classic Cinema Saga of Frankenstein. A.S. Barnes & Company, Inc. ISBN 0-498-02473-3. Page 138
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Constantine II of Greece
Improved to Good Article status by Andrzejbanas (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 21:22, 18 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/House of Frankenstein (film); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- Interesting article. New enough (submitted within 3 days of promotion to GA status); lengthy (13231 characters of prose); well sourced with inline citations; neutral/balanced; Earwig says copyvio unlikely (only significant match is a direct quote from the New York Times, which is cited appropriately); AGF on offline sources. QPQ is done. So the only remaining issue is the hook. I don't think ALT0 works in its current state – I find myself wondering if it's meant ironically (i.e., so unpopular that it only played for three weeks and then no one wanted to see it anymore). Did we mean to say "played all through the night...for three weeks"? (Does the source say that?) With ALT1, we have the problem where we've now made a film historian with no Wikipedia article at the top of the hook. There are several ways to resolve this, including 1) creating a new article for Gregory W. Mank; 2) opting not to name him by referring to "a film historian" or equivalent. You could also try placing the main target for this hook toward the beginning of the hook, or toward the end, or both and see which one works better. Cc: Onegreatjoke Andrzejbanas Cielquiparle (talk) 04:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
Ramón Iribarren
- ... that Ramón Iribarren's work on waves at Mutriku led to the development of the Iribarren number? Source: Battjes, J.A. (1974). "Surf similarity". Proceedings of The 14th International Conference on Coastal Engineering. Coastal Engineering Proceedings. Vol. 1. pp. 466–480. doi:10.9753/icce.v14.26. , Schiereck, G.J.; Verhagen, H.J. (2016). Introduction to bed, bank and shoreline protection. Delft, The Netherlands: VSSD. ISBN 978-90-6562-306-5.
- ALT1: ... that Ramón Iribarren developed a formula for the stability of breakwater slopes under wave attack in 1938 but Francoist Spain restricted the dissemination of it? Source: Hudson, R.Y. (1959). "Laboratory investigation of rubble-mound breakwaters". Journal of the Waterways and Harbor Research Division. 85 (3): 93–121. doi:10.1061/JWHEAU.0000142. Retrieved 11 December 2022. , Hudson, R.Y. (1961). "Closure to "Hudson on Breakwaters"". Transactions of the American Society of Civil Engineers. 126 (4): 536–541. doi:10.1061/TACEAT.0008345. Retrieved 11 December 2022.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Jim Boeheim
Improved to Good Article status by D McParland (talk) and Mike Christie (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 20:38, 18 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Ramón Iribarren; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
Mackay Davashe
- ... that Mackay Davashe wrote "Lakutshona Ilanga", the English version of which, sung by Miriam Makeba, became the first South African piece to chart on the Billboard Hot 100? Source: Jolaosho 2021, Jaggi 2000, cited in article.
- ALT1: ... that Mackay Davashe wrote "Lakutshona Ilanga", the English version of which became the first South African piece to chart on the Billboard Hot 100? Source: Jolaosho 2021, Jaggi 2000, cited in article.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Drew Van Horn
- Comment: Adding alt in case original is deemed too complicated, but I prefer ALT0.
Moved to mainspace by Vanamonde93 (talk). Expanded by Graham87 (talk) Self-nominated at 22:45, 15 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Mackay Davashe; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- will take this; give me a moment to access the source cited for the hook. and mind, billboard should be italicised because it's the name of a magazine Elias 🌊 💬 "Will you call me?"
📝 "Will you hang me out to dry?" 07:57, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
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Overall: overall, everything about the article itself is okay. "In the English version..." indicates some close paraphrasing, but there isn't really any other way to reword that sentence, so i'll let that slide. the citations do back up the information in the hook. wrt the hooks, however, I feel as though the current ones are still too convoluted. I'd suggest the alt "... that Mackay Davashe co-wrote the first South African single to chart in the US?
" . there is zero need to mention the song's title as we can simply focus on the achievement. and by using the word "co-wrote" , we do away with the "english version" part; he's still credited as a co-writer in the english translation, no? Elias 🌊 💬 "Will you call me?"
📝 "Will you hang me out to dry?" 10:42, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- I'm okay dumping the title, I'm hesitant about "co-wrote" as I think it's verging on OR; the translator was someone else, and who knows how little or much work Davashe put into it. I also don't want to say "chart in the US", because while that's likely true, it is a guess; there are charts besides the billboard one...ALT2 below is at 138 characters (I believe); what do you think? Vanamonde (Talk) 17:53, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that the first South African piece to chart on the Billboard Hot 100 was an English translation of a Xhosa song written by Mackay Davashe? Source: Jolaosho 2021, Jaggi 2000, cited in article.
Readers should not be expected to be familiar with the Hot 100. Naming it, like naming the song, adds layers of complexity that dilutes the wow factor of the hook. Simplifying things to "chart in the US" makes sense metonymically. The Hot 100 is the US's standard chart for songs, with no other major competitor around; I really doubt anyone else apart from BB was compiling charts in the 50s, so clarifying that it charted in the Hot 100 as opposed to ... i don't know ... iTunes? ... seems unnecessary. Elias 🌊 💬 "Will you call me?"
📝 "Will you hang me out to dry?" 06:57, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
Kathryn Bryce
- ... that in 2015, cricketing sisters Kathryn and Sarah Bryce combined in an unbroken partnership of 336 for Scotland Under 17s against Lincolnshire Under 17s? Source: Scotland's Bryce sisters spell double-trouble for opposition
- Reviewed: TBA
- Comment: The nominator intends to upgrade the Sarah Bryce article in the next few days, so that it, too, can be nominated for DYK. The link to that article in this hook can then be emboldened, such that just the one hook can apply to both articles and DYKs.
5x expanded by Bahnfrend (talk). Self-nominated at 14:35, 15 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Kathryn Bryce; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- Doing... ミラP@Miraclepine 13:33, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
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- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: - Earwig turned up five results with >10% similarity (84.3, 51.9, 31.0, 13.0, and 12.3), and while most of them are quotes (which may require an explanation of relevance or trimming per WP:COPYQUOTE; there are nine quote boxes, and one of the two-paragraph boxes are particularly long), I found a few close paraphrases (for example, compare
When Bryce first moved south to England to attend university at Loughborough in 2017, Warwickshire's Division One county team captain Marie Kelly was also studying there
in the article withBryce first moved south to England in 2017 to attend university at Loughborough where Warwickshire captain Marie Kelly was also studying
in the attached source) which should be resummarized, if possible (see WP:LIMITED).
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- Other problems: partnership. Also, "Under 17s" is redundantly said twice, so I recommend mentioning just the Under-17 level, namely: - I'm not really a cricket fan, so I recommend linking
- ALT1: ... that at Under-17 level, cricketing sisters Kathryn and Sarah Bryce combined in an unbroken partnership of 336 for Scotland against Lincolnshire?
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QPQ: - None yet
Overall: Expanded starting 11 April, four days before nom. Expanded almost eightfold from 375 to 2975 words between 8 and 15 April, and currently at 3293 (not counting the {{quote}} boxes given the limitations of WP:PROSESIZE) as of now. I noticed that you wanted to add another article to this nom, which would require you to add a second QPQ. Please ping me if you've added article 2, if you've addressed the issues with article 1, and if you've done both QPQs. ミラP@Miraclepine 15:08, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Bahnfrend: Given your subsequent edits, just need these changes and you're good to go for the "plagiarismfree" part:
- Change "over the last couple of years" to "in the past few years"
- Change "develop her cricket full-time in a high-performance programme, albeit as an unpaid student, and only during the academic year" to "improve her cricketing skills full-time in a high-performance programme, where she would participate as an unpaid student during the academic year".
- I'll still wait for you to finish the promised Sarah Bryce expansion and to do the two QPQs if possible. ミラP@Miraclepine 16:39, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Miraclepine: Thanks for your helpful comments; I had overlooked checking the article with Earwig before nominating it. In Wikipedia bios, I like to include quotes, so that the subject speaks to the reader in her (or his) own voice, and to give the reader the benefit of verbatim comments by others. However, I accept that the original quotes I added to this article needed some trimming, which I have done. I will complete the upgrade of the other article, and the two QPQs, some time in the next week or so. Bahnfrend (talk) 09:47, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
Daylight (David Kushner song), David Kushner (singer-songwriter)
- ... that with his song "Daylight", David Kushner (pictured) wanted to use the elements of light and darkness to covey a paradoxical desire for something that is simultaneously harmful to oneself? Source: Broadway World
- ALT1: ... that David Kushner (pictured) based the story of his song "Daylight" on biblical references that inspired him as a child? Source: Paper
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Protection Court
- Comment: should ideally appear with the image, as Kushner's bio is one of the two articles nominated and the image is high quality.
Created by MaranoFan (talk). Self-nominated at 14:01, 15 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Daylight (David Kushner song); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
2023 Fort Lauderdale floods
- ... that during the 2023 Fort Lauderdale floods, rainfall rates exceeded 3–4 inches per hour, in which the rates were the average April rainfall total? Source: The Washington Post
- ALT1: ... that during the 2023 Fort Lauderdale floods, 25.91 inches of rain fell in Fort Lauderdale, equivalent to a third of the city's annual rainfall total? Source: Newsweek
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/KLKN
- Comment: Historic flooding in Fort Lauderdale, Florida.
Created by Tails Wx (talk) and Elijahandskip (talk). Nominated by Tails Wx (talk) at 03:28, 15 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/2023 Fort Lauderdale floods; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- Article checks out the new enough, long enough, and within policy criteria. I'd honestly go with that ALT1 because that's such a crazy stat to me. But I would say some tweaking should be done to ALT0. Right now "comparable to the average April rainfall total" can come off as ambiguous, bc a reader could wonder "average April rainfall total of what exactly?" I know it's probably obvious to most, but just some minor tweaking need for 100% clarity on ALT0. That and the QPQ needs to be done and then it'll be good to go. Soulbust (talk) 01:12, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 16[edit]
475 °C embrittlement
- ... that duplex stainless steel can undergo 475 °C embrittlement that causes a loss of plasticity when it's heated between 315 °C (599 °F) and 540 °C (1,004 °F)? Source: Age hardening by spinodal decomposition section
Improved to Good Article status by FuzzyMagma (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 20:38, 20 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/475 °C embrittlement; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
Jozef Israëls Monument
- ... that in 1943 the Jozef Israëls Monument (pictured) was destroyed by fascists but the director of municipal cleaning saved the pieces and it was restored? Source: During the Second World War, the work was severely damaged. Jozef Israëls was Jewish, which members of the Dutch National Socialist Movement stated on his statue in the spring of 1943 and (August 10, 1946 Unveiling monument) It was the director of Municipal Cleaning, Mr. Koops, who immediately took charge of the shards. After the liberation, the restoration was started under the direction of van den Groninger sculptor S. W. Valk.
- ALT1: ... that the Jozef Israëls Monument (pictured) which was destroyed during World War II was rebuilt after the war? Source: Same as ALT0
- ALT2: ... that a monument (pictured) to honor the Jewish artist Jozef Israëls was destroyed during World War II but someone saved the pieces and it was restored and unveiled in 1946? Source: Same as ALT0
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Created by Bruxton (talk). Self-nominated at 16:08, 19 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Jozef Israëls Monument; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
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Overall: @Bruxton: Good article. AGF on Foreign sources. Waiting on QPQ. Onegreatjoke (talk) 17:32, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
Christopher W. Shaw
- ... that Christopher W. Shaw has called for the return of banking at the American post office? Source: Washington Post
- Reviewed: To come
5x expanded by Thriley (talk), Silver seren (talk), and 7&6=thirteen (talk). Nominated by Thriley (talk) at 15:11, 19 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Christopher W. Shaw; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- Note: Article is at AfD; looks like it will be kept. Daniel Case (talk) 01:56, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 17[edit]
Wanda Wesołowska
- ... that Wanda Wesołowska has named 40 genera and 572 species of animals? Source: https://wsc.nmbe.ch/search?sFamily=&fMt=begin&sGenus=&gMt=begin&sSpecies=&sMt=begin&multiPurpose=sAuthor&sMulti=Weso%C5%82owska&mMt=contain&searchSpec=s
Improved to Good Article status by Simongraham (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 22:06, 21 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Wanda Wesołowska; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
William Bligh
- ... that William Bligh sailed nearly 4,000 miles to the island of Timor on a small boat after his crewmen led a mutiny against him? Source: https://www.rmg.co.uk/stories/topics/william-bligh
- ALT1: ... that William Bligh is the only person in Australian history to be overthrown by the military? Source: https://www.nma.gov.au/defining-moments/resources/rum-rebellion
- Reviewed: [[]]
5x expanded by DDMS123 (talk). Self-nominated at 21:08, 18 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/William Bligh; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- I've added the obvious and necessary links. Seems good - is a QPQ needed? More later. Johnbod (talk) 21:46, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- Ok, the first hook checks out, but it seems odd to avoid the famous Mutiny on the Bounty in the hook. The source for the 2nd says it was the only time the government was overthrown by the military - "the only person in Australian history to be overthrown by the military" reads rather oddly, as I dare say the Australian military have done a good deal of "overthrowing" individuals over the years. A reword would be good. Johnbod (talk) 01:29, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
- Never mind - the 5x rule says: "For DYK purposes, an article is considered new if, within the last seven days, the article has been created in mainspace from a redlink or redirect; expanded at least fivefold in terms of its prose portion" - here the recent expansion is much less than that, so it's no go I'm afraid. Most of your additions (in byte terms) are added references, which are admirable but don't count towards the "prose" numbers. Sorry! Johnbod (talk) 01:34, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
Fret Nice
- ... that Fret Nice is a side-scrolling platform game that uses a guitar controller? Source: "This is immediately apparent when trying to perform even the most basic movement with a cumbersome guitar controller, which becomes so frustrating that you end up wanting to smash it like Pete Townshend before you finish the first level. " [17]
- ALT1: ... that one reviewer said that players should try using a guitar controller with Fret Nice "to gain a new appreciation for a traditional controller"? Source: "t is worth using a guitar in Fret Nice initially, if for no other reason than to gain a new appreciation for a traditional controller. " [18]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Sophie Whitehouse
- Comment: This is a super weird indie game that used Guitar Hero-type controllers in a Sonic or Mario type of game. Definitely think the guitar controller angle is the way to go here, if we need more hooks, I can pull some.
5x expanded by Nomader (talk). Self-nominated at 17:28, 17 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Fret Nice; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
Mansfield Hotel
- ... that New York City's Mansfield Hotel was developed by two neighbors, one of whom later became Vermont's governor? Source: Mansfield Hotel (PDF) (Report). New York City Landmarks Preservation Commission. June 12, 2012. p. 5
- ALT1: ... that New York City's Mansfield Hotel was developed by two neighbors from Vermont, one of whom later served as Vermont's governor? Source: Mansfield Hotel (PDF) (Report). New York City Landmarks Preservation Commission. June 12, 2012. p. 5
- ALT2: ... that after a renovation in the mid-1990s, New York City's Mansfield Hotel hosted recitals in a former tavern? Source: Reynolds, Christopher (November 2, 1997). "New York / New & Improved; a Surge of Revamped Hotels". Los Angeles Times. pp. L, 1:5.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/_
- Comment: QPQ pending. I would appreciate any hook suggestions.
Created by Epicgenius (talk). Self-nominated at 13:10, 17 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Mansfield Hotel; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
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Overall: @Epicgenius: Good article. Just waiting on a QPQ. Onegreatjoke (talk) 19:27, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
Passive Seismic Experiment Package
- ... that the Passive Seismic Experiment Package recorded one of the first instances of humans throwing trash out of the vehicle on another planetary body? Source: https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/as11psr.pdf
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Created by Seddon (talk). Self-nominated at 02:38, 17 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Passive Seismic Experiment Package; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
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Overall: Interesting article about an experiment performed by the Apollo 11 astronauts. However, there are a few problems:
- First of all, the article requires some copyediting.
- One question: are you sure the sources are talking about "asteroid" impacts? Aren't they by any chance meteroids?
- There is mention of six types of events recorded by the experiment, but then only two are described. What about the others? For sake of completeness, I would introduce a short mention about the other four.
- Regarding the hook, it talks about "trash", but there is actually no mention of that in the article, only about items thrown from the LEM. To call them "trash" one needs to explain why they were thrown out.
- Also, the hook recites that it is "one of the first instances of humans"... Why one of the first? Did anyone else throw trash on the moon or elsewhere before Apollo11? Alex2006 (talk) 07:06, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Seddon: Can you address the concerns? BorgQueen (talk) 10:08, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 18[edit]
Te Deum (Reulein)
- ... that the 2018 Te Deum for choir by Peter Reulein (pictured) uses the same instruments including a bandoneon as Palmeri's Misatango, and is also inspired by Latin-American dance rhythms? Source: several
- Reviewed: St. Francis Cathedral, Xi'an
- Comment: It was first performed on 29 April 2018, making it 5-years-old on 29 April which - without mentioning - would be cute. I understand that it is soon.
Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 21:41, 21 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Te Deum (Reulein); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
Articles created/expanded on April 19[edit]
Al-Faddayni
- ... that the rebel al-Faddayni, a descendant of Caliph Uthman, led the last major attempt to reestablish Umayyad rule in Syria? Source: Madelung (2000), Abūʾl-Amayṭar al-Sufyānī". Jerusalem Studies in Arabic and Islam. 24. pp. 340-341
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- Comment: QPQ review pending
Created by Al Ameer son (talk). Self-nominated at 02:35, 22 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Al-Faddayni; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
Soeparno (mayor)
- ... that for his tenure as the mayor of Surabaya, Indonesia, Soeparno was given a "grade" of six by his superior? Source: [19]
- ALT1: ... that Soeparno moved the official establishment year of Surabaya, Indonesia from 1906 from 1293? Source: [20]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/2023 Texas dairy farm explosion
- Comment: -
Created by Juxlos (talk). Self-nominated at 04:44, 19 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Soeparno (mayor); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
Articles created/expanded on April 20[edit]
Neptune (Alexander McQueen collection)
- ... that the Alexander McQueen collection Neptune drew negative reviews comparing the clothing to 1980s science fiction, Xena, and Wonder Woman? Source: Vogue and Women's Wear Daily
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Xiphophorus pygmaeus
- Comment: Nobody loves this stupid collection except for me.
Created by Premeditated Chaos (talk). Self-nominated at 22:55, 20 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Neptune (Alexander McQueen collection); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
Kore Ilbo
- ... that the formerly Soviet Korean newspaper Kore Ilbo was once known as the Leninist Banner, and is the oldest active Korean newspaper outside of Korea? Source: The Kore Ilbo is a Korean newspaper first published in 1923 as the March 1st Newspaper and later changed its name to Seonbong(1923–1937), the Leninist Banner(1938–1990), and finally to Kore Ilbo(1991 to present). It is a newspaper of the Korean diaspora with the longest history of publication [21]
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- Comment: I don't know if I did the source right. I translated the quote from page 12 of the freely downloadable article in the link.
Improved to Good Article status by Jacoblee628 (talk). Self-nominated at 18:31, 20 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Kore Ilbo; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
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Overall: @Jacoblee628: Very nice article! I've been following this GA review. The hook is interesting, however, I'm concerned about the translation of "레닌기치" as "Leninist Banner" in English (This source, for example simply transliterates it to Lenin Kichi - and I would be more inclined to translate that as "Banner of Lenin"). Is there an English language source supporting this name (or a Korean language source mentioning this English name)? In all other aspects, hook was verified.
Assuming sources for "Leninist Banner" can be found, I made a few grammatical/formatting changes to the proposed hook below and replaced formerly Soviet Korean with the better descriptor of Koryo-saram
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- ALT1 ... that the Koryo-saram newspaper Kore Ilbo was once known as the Leninist Banner and is the oldest active Korean newspaper outside of Korea? :3 F4U (they/it) 01:55, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
- omg you're right... That translation was supposed to be a placeholder but I forgot to change it. I eventually somehow convinced myself that "Leninist" was most common. Just changed article to what I've since most commonly seen. Would it make sense to change the DYK text to "was once known as Lenin's Banner"? Jacoblee628 (talk) 16:33, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
Sam H. Harris Theatre
- ... that when New York City's Candler Theatre was renamed, one journalist said it was because people kept mispronouncing its name? Source: Henderson, Mary C.; Greene, Alexis (2008). "The story of 42nd Street : the theaters, shows, characters, and scandals of the world's most notorious street". p. 165
- ALT1: ... that when New York City's Candler Theatre was renamed two years after its opening, one journalist said it was because people kept mispronouncing "Candler"? Source: Henderson, Mary C.; Greene, Alexis (2008). "The story of 42nd Street : the theaters, shows, characters, and scandals of the world's most notorious street". p. 165
- ALT2: ... that the Sam H. Harris Theatre, built in 1914 to accommodate both Broadway shows and films, only screened films for its last six decades? Source: Various in article; principally Henderson & Greene (2008).
- ALT3: ... that the Sam H. Harris Theatre, built in 1914 to accommodate both Broadway shows and films, only screened films from 1933 until its demolition in the late 1990s? Source: Various in article; principally Henderson & Greene (2008).
- ALT4: ... that despite plans to restore the Sam H. Harris Theatre in the 1990s, it became an entrance to a wax museum? Source: McBride, Murdoch (October 15, 1998). "Good progress on 42nd Street". Back Stage. Vol. 39, no. 41. p. 3; Collins, Glenn (April 20, 2000). "Coming Soon: The Wax Menagerie; Tussaud's Is Giving Times Square Something New to Gawk At". The New York Times.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/_
- Comment: QPQ pending
Improved to Good Article status by Epicgenius (talk). Self-nominated at 14:05, 20 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Sam H. Harris Theatre; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
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Articles created/expanded on April 21[edit]
Witch-hunts in India
- ... that witch-hunts in India are still prevalent nowadays? Source: Greed & Power Override Myth As India’s Poorest State Strives To End The Hunting Of Witches By 2023
Improved to Good Article status by Schnitzella (talk). Nominated by BorgQueen (talk) at 18:19, 21 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Witch-hunts in India; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
Mary Taft
- ... that Mary Taft (pictured) said, in 1799, that stopping women from "bringing souls to Christs" would, one day, be unbelievable? Source: source is here, I have paraphrased the longer archaic quote
Created by Victuallers (talk). Self-nominated at 13:02, 21 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Mary Taft; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
Jordan Stephens
- ... that Rizzle Kicks musician Jordan Stephens is the grandson of John Boulting? Source: https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/features/rizzle-kicks-interview-the-brighton-boys-are-on-a-roll-9640258.html
- Reviewed: [[]]
- Comment: QPQ forthcoming.
Created by Launchballer (talk). Self-nominated at 12:32, 21 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Jordan Stephens; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
Coronation glove
- ... that while they are being crowned the British monarch wears a single white glove said to be a symbol of purity and integrity? Source: "only one glove, on the right hand, is worn by the Monarch" from: "Queen Elizabeth II's Coronation Glove". Dents. Retrieved 20 April 2023., the timing of the wearing of the glove is covered in Torrance, David. "The coronation: history and ceremonial" (PDF). House of Commons Library. pp. 58–59. Retrieved 20 April 2023. and "According to Thomas Fuller, writing in 1655, the whiteness of the coronation glove is a visual emblem of purity and integrity and a reminder of the virtues of the saintly Edward the Confessor" from: Green, Anne (6 November 2021). Gloves: An Intimate History. Reaktion Books. p. 29. ISBN 978-1-78914-510-6.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Rutherford's Monument
- Comment: Nice if this could run on coronation day (6 May), if needed to save space it could be merged into the multi-article Template:Did you know nominations/Robe of State but I think it has enough interest to stand alone
Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Self-nominated at 06:38, 21 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Coronation glove; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
Articles created/expanded on April 22[edit]
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