Wikipedia:Requested moves
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Requested moves is a process for requesting the retitling (moving) of an article, template, or project page on Wikipedia. For retitling files, categories and other items, see When not to use this page.
Please read the article titling policy and the guideline regarding primary topics before moving a page or requesting a page move.
Any autoconfirmed user can use the Move function to perform most moves (see Help:How to move a page). If you have no reason to expect a dispute concerning a move, be bold and move the page. However, it may not always be possible or desirable to do this:
- Technical reasons may prevent a move; for example, a page may already exist at the target title and require deletion, or the page may be protected from moves. See: § Requesting technical moves.
- Requests to revert recent, undiscussed, controversial moves may be made at WP:RM/TR. If the new name has not become the stable title, the undiscussed move will be reverted. If the new name has become the stable title, a requested move will be needed to determine the article's proper location.
- A title may be disputed, and discussion may be necessary to reach consensus: see § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves. The requested moves process is not mandatory, and sometimes an informal discussion at the article's talk page can help reach consensus.
- Unregistered and new (not yet autoconfirmed) users are unable to move pages.
Requests are generally processed after seven days. If consensus is reached at or after this time, a reviewer will enact the request. If not, the request may be re-listed to allow more time for consensus to develop, or the discussion closed as "no consensus". See Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions for more details on the process.
Wikipedia:Move review can be used to contest the outcome of a move request as long as all steps are followed. If a discussion on the closer's talk page does not resolve an issue, then a move review will evaluate the close of the move discussion to determine whether or not the contested close was reasonable and consistent with the spirit and intent of common practice, policies, and guidelines.
When not to use this page
Separate processes exist for moving certain types of pages, and for changes other than page moves:
- Making an uncontroversial move – if you can, be bold and do it yourself! If you can't, see § Requesting technical moves.
- Renaming a category – propose the move at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion.
- Renaming a stub template – propose the move at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion.
- Renaming an image or other file – see Wikipedia:Moving a page § Moving a file page.
- Moves from draft namespace or user space to article space – Unconfirmed users: add
{{subst:submit}}
to the top of the article. See Wikipedia:Articles for creation. Confirmed users: Move the page yourself. - Merging two articles – make a request at Wikipedia:Proposed mergers, or be bold and do it yourself.
- Splitting an article – make a request at Wikipedia:Proposed article splits, or be bold and do it yourself.
- Requesting that page histories be merged – list them at Wikipedia:Requests for history merge.
- Contesting a move request close – use the Wikipedia:Move review process.
Undiscussed moves
Autoconfirmed editors may move a page without discussion if all of the following apply:
- No article exists at the new target title;
- There has been no discussion (especially no recent discussion) about the title of the page that expressed any objection to a new title; and
- It seems unlikely that anyone would reasonably disagree with the move.
If you disagree with such a move, and the new title has not been in place for a long time, you may revert the move. If you cannot revert the move for technical reasons, then you may request a technical move.
Move wars are disruptive, so if you make a bold move and it is reverted, do not make the move again. Instead, follow the procedures laid out in § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves.
If you are unable to complete a move for technical reasons, you can request technical help below. This is the correct page if you tried to move a page, but you got an error message saying something like "You do not have permission to move this page, for the following reasons: ..."
If you are here because you want an admin to approve of your new article or your proposed page move, you are in the wrong place.
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- To list a technical request: Uncontroversial technical requests subsection and insert the following code at the bottom of the list, filling in pages and reason:
This will automatically insert a bullet and include your signature. Please do not edit the article's talk page.{{subst:RMassist|current page title|new page title|reason=reason for move}}
the - If you object to a proposal listed in the uncontroversial technical requests section, please move the request to the Contested technical requests section, append a note on the request elaborating on why, and sign with ~~~~. Consider pinging the requester to let them know about the objection.
- If your technical request is contested, or if a contested request is left untouched without reply, create a requested move on the article talk and remove the request from the section here. The fastest and easiest way is to click the "discuss" button at the request, save the talk page, and remove the entry on this page.
Technical requests
Uncontroversial technical requests
- Storhamar Ishockey → Storhamar Hockey (currently a redirect to Storhamar Ishockey) (move · discuss) – Official name used on their website and social media. Sørhaug (talk) 09:42, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
Requests to revert undiscussed moves
- Soviet invasion and occupation of Bessarabia and Northern Bukovina → Soviet occupation of Bessarabia and Northern Bukovina (currently a redirect to Soviet invasion and occupation of Bessarabia and Northern Bukovina) (move · discuss) – Revert undiscussed move. Super Ψ Dro 09:00, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
Contested technical requests
Administrator needed
The discussion process is used for potentially controversial moves. A move is potentially controversial if either of the following applies:
- there has been any past debate about the best title for the page;
- someone could reasonably disagree with the move.
Use this process if there is any reason to believe a move would be contested. For technical move requests, such as to correct obvious typographical errors, see Requesting technical moves. The technical moves procedure can also be used for uncontroversial moves when the requested title is occupied by an existing article.
Do not create a new move request when one is already open on the same talk page. Instead, consider contributing to the open discussion if you would like to propose another alternative. Multiple closed move requests may be on the same page, but each should have a unique section heading.
Do not create a move request to rename one or more redirects. Redirects cannot be used as current titles in requested moves.
Requesting a single page move
To request a single page move, click on the "New section" (or "Add topic") tab of the talk page of the article you want moved, without adding a new subject/header, inserting this code:
{{subst:requested move|NewName|reason=Place here your rationale for the proposed page name change, ideally referring to applicable naming convention policies and guidelines, and providing evidence in support where appropriate. If your reasoning includes search engine results, please prioritize searches limited to reliable sources (e.g. books, news, scholarly papers) over other web results. You don't need to add your signature at the end, as this template will do so automatically.}}
Replace NewName
with the requested new name of the page (or with a simple question mark, if you want more than one possible new name to be considered). The template will automatically create the heading "Requested move 22 April 2023" and sign the post for you.
There is no need to edit the article in question. Once the above code is added to the Talk page, a bot will automatically add the following notification at the top of the affected page:
A request that this page title be changed is under discussion. Please do not move this page until the discussion is closed. |
Unlike other request processes on Wikipedia, such as Requests for comment, nominations need not be neutral. Make your point as best you can; use evidence (such as Google Ngrams and pageview statistics) and refer to applicable policies and guidelines, especially our article titling policy and the guideline on disambiguation and primary topics.
WikiProjects may subscribe to Article alerts to receive RM notifications. For example, Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Article alerts/Requested moves is transcluded to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Biography. RMCD bot notifies many of the other Wikiprojects listed on the talk page of the article to be moved to invite project members to participate in the RM discussion. Requesters should feel free to notify any other Wikiproject or noticeboard that might be interested in the move request, as long as this notification is neutral.
Single page move on a different talk page
Occasionally, a move request must be made on a talk page other than the talk page of the page to be moved. For example, a request to rename Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Resources to Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Reviewing and templates would need to take place at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Articles for creation because the talk page of the project page to be moved, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Articles for creation/Resources, is a redirect to that centralized discussion page. In this type of case, the requested move should be made using the following code:
{{subst:requested move|reason=(the reason for the page move goes here).|current1=(present title of page to be renamed)|new1=(proposed title of page)}}
The |1=
unnamed parameter is not used. The |current1=
and |new1=
parameters are used similar to multiple page moves described below.
Requesting multiple page moves
A single template may be used to request multiple related moves. On one of the talk pages of the affected pages, create a request and format it as below. A sample request for three page moves is shown here (for two page moves, omit the lines for current3 and new3). For four page moves, add lines for current4 and new4, and so on. There is no technical limit on the number of multiple move requests, but before requesting very large multi-moves, consider whether a naming convention should be changed first. Discuss that change on the talk page for the naming convention, e.g., Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (sportspeople).
To request a multiple page move, edit at the bottom of the talk page of the article you chose for your request, without adding a new header, inserting this code:
{{subst:requested move
| current1 = Current title of page 1
| new1 = New title for page 1 with the talk page hosting this discussion
| current2 = Current title of page 2
| new2 = New title for page 2
| current3 = Current title of page 3
| new3 = New title for page 3
| reason = Place here your rationale for the proposed page name change, ideally referring to applicable naming convention policies and guidelines, and providing evidence in support where appropriate. If your reasoning includes search engine results, please prioritize searches limited to reliable sources (e.g. books, news, scholarly papers) over other web results. You don't need to add your signature at the end, as this template will do so automatically.
}}
For example, to propose moving the articles Wikipedia
and Wiki
, put this template on Talk:Wikipedia
, and replace current2
with Wiki
. The discussion for all affected articles is held on the talk page of the article at page 1 (Talk:Wikipedia
). Do not sign a request with ~~~~
as the template does this automatically. Do not skip pairs of numbers.
RMCD bot automatically places a notice section on the talk page of the additional pages that are included in your request, advising that the move discussion is in progress, where it is, and that all discussion for all pages included in the request should take place at that one location.
Occasionally the discussions for significant multi-move requests may be hosted on WikiProject talk pages or other pages in Project namespace. For multi-move discussions hosted on a page which is not itself proposed to be moved, specify |current1=Current title of page 1
for the first page to move.
Request all associated moves explicitly
Please list every move that you wish to have made in your request. For example, if you wish to move Cricket (disambiguation) to Cricket because you do not believe the sport is the primary topic for the search term "Cricket", then you actually want to move two pages, both Cricket (disambiguation) and Cricket. Thus you must list proposed titles for each page affected by your request. For example, you might propose:
If a new title is not proposed for the sport, it is more difficult to achieve consensus for a new title for that article. A move request that does not show what to do with the material at its proposed target, such as:
is incomplete. Such requests may be completed as a request to decide the best new title by discussion.
- Cricket → ?
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Commenting on a requested move
All editors are welcome to contribute to the discussion regarding a requested page move. There are a number of standards that Wikipedians should practice in such discussions:
- When editors recommend a course of action, they write Support or Oppose in bold text, which is done by surrounding the word with three single quotes on each side, e.g.
'''Support'''
. - Comments or recommendations are added on a new bulleted line (that is, starting with *) and signed by adding
~~~~
to the end. Responses to another editor are threaded and indented using multiple bullets. - The article itself should be reviewed before any recommendation is made; do not base recommendations solely on the information supplied by other editors. It may also help to look at the article's edit history. However, please read the earlier comments and recommendations, as well as prior move requests. They may contain relevant arguments and useful information.
- Vested interests in the article should be disclosed per Wikipedia:Conflict of interest#How to disclose a COI.
When participating, please consider the following:
- Editors should make themselves familiar with the article titling policy at Wikipedia:Article titles.
- Other important guidelines that set forth community norms for article titles include Wikipedia:Disambiguation, specific naming conventions, and the manual of style.
- The debate is not a vote; please do not make recommendations that are not sustained by arguments.
- Explain how the proposed article title meets or contravenes policy and guidelines rather than merely stating that it does so.
- Nomination already implies that the nominator supports the name change, and nominators should refrain from repeating this recommendation on a separate bulleted line.[a]
- Do not make conflicting recommendations. If you change your mind, use strike-through to retract your previous statement by enclosing it between <s> and </s> after the bullets, and de-bold the struck words, as in "•
SupportOppose".
Please remember that reasonable editors will sometimes disagree, but that arguments based in policy, guidelines, and evidence have more weight than unsupported statements. When an editor offers an argument that does not explain how the move request is consistent with policies and guidelines, a reminder to engage in constructive, on-topic discussion may be useful. On the other hand, a pattern of responding to requests with groundless opinion, proof by assertion, and ignoring content guidelines may become disruptive. If a pattern of disruptive behavior persists after efforts are made to correct the situation through dialogue, please consider using a dispute resolution process.
Closing a requested move
Any uninvolved editor in good standing may close a move request. Please read the closing instructions for information on how to close a move request. The Simple guide to closing RM discussions details how to actually close a requested move discussion.
Relisting a requested move
Relisting a discussion moves the request out of the backlog up to the current day in order to encourage further input. The decision to relist a discussion is best left to uninvolved experienced editors upon considering, but declining, to close the discussion. In general, discussions should not be relisted more than once before properly closing.[b] Users relisting a debate which has already been relisted, or relisting a debate with a substantial discussion, should write a short explanation on why they did not consider the debate sufficient to close. While there is no consensus forbidding participation in a requested move discussion after relisting it, many editors consider it an inadvisable form of supervote. If you want to relist a discussion and then participate in it, be prepared to explain why you think it was appropriate.
Relisting should be done using {{subst:relisting}}
, which automatically includes the relister's signature, and which must be placed at the very end of the initial request after the move requester's signature (and subsequent relisters' signatures).
When a relisted discussion reaches a resolution, it may be closed at any time according to the closing instructions; there is no required length of time to wait before closing a relisted discussion.
If discussion has become stale, or it seems that discussion would benefit from more input of editors versed in the subject area, consider more widely publicizing the discussion, such as by notifying WikiProjects of the discussion using the template {{RM notification}}. Banners placed at the top of the talk page hosting the move request can often be used to identify WikiProjects suitable for notification.
Notes
- ^ A nominator making a procedural nomination with which they may not agree is free to add a bulleted line explaining their actual position. Additional detail, such as sources, may also be provided in an additional bullet point if its inclusion in the nomination statement would make the statement unwieldy. Please remember that the entire nomination statement is transcluded into the list on this page.
- ^ Despite this, discussions are occasionally relisted more than once.
- This section lists all requests filed or identified as potentially controversial which are currently under discussion.
Do not attempt to edit this list manually; a bot will automatically update the page soon after the {{subst:Requested move}} template is added to the discussion on the relevant talk page. The entry is removed automatically soon after the discussion is closed. To make a change to an entry, make the change on the linked talk page. |
This list is also available in a page-link-first format and in table format. 40 discussions have been relisted.
April 22, 2023
- (Discuss) – Policja → Police of Poland – The standard naming for articles on police of countries is that we don't generally translate the local name, as it's not unique enough to be a loanword (e.g. Police of Denmark, Police of Finland, Police of the Czech Republic, etc. Brandmeistertalk 09:51, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Communist rebellion in the Philippines → New People's Army conflict – Given that other past and present communist conflicts are now covered at Communist armed conflicts in the Philippines, in light of previous discussions, and in an effort to avoid confusion due to an overbroad article title, I propose that this article be moved to New People's Army conflict.
Given that material about other communist conflicts (the defunct Hukbalahap, CPLA, and ABB conflicts as well as the active MLPP and RWP conflicts) has been moved to Communist armed conflicts in the Philippines, the article is now primarily about the conflict between the New People's Army (NPA) of the Communist Party of the Philippines (CPP), which also involves its political wing, the National Democratic Front (NDF). Since there have been objections to the use of the long acronym "CPP-NPA-NDF", and it is the NPA which is the direct participant in the conflict, "New People's Army conflict" would be a viable accurate title.
On a last note, the term "conflict" has been proposed here because it seems to have been recognized, in previous discussions, as the most neutral descriptor. The use of "conflict" also neatly parallels the other major conflict in contemporary Philippine history, which is the Moro conflict. If there are any of objections to conflict, I suppose "New People's Army rebellion" is a viable alternate name, although some proposals to change it have been put forward in the past, and it is my belief that "conflict" will finally lead to a stable article title. Thank you. Looking forward to everyone's feedback, and a final, stable, NPOV article title. Chieharumachi (talk) 05:25, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Antihero (album) → Antihero (Huskii album) – This does not even come close to being a WP:PDAB. It does not have more page views than all other albums of the same name combined. At least one album of the same name has more pageviews than this one. aaronneallucas (talk) 04:03, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Valdivian temperate rain forest → Valdivian temperate forests – This article is about a terrestrial ecoregion. The primary sources agree that the ecoregion is named Valdivian temperate forests – One Earth, Encyclopedia of Life, DOPA Explorer, and WWF. The practice at the Ecoregions WikiProject is to use the ecoregion names used by the primary sources. The current article name, from an undiscussed move, doesn't jibe with those sources. There are temperate rainforests in the ecoregion and they are discussed in the article, but it includes other temperate forest types as well, so the name used by the sources is the more appropriate one for this article. Tom Radulovich (talk) 02:51, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
April 21, 2023
- (Discuss) – Karaliaus Mindaugo taurė MVP → King Mindaugas Cup MVP – WP:ENGLISHNAME; most English sources say "King Mindaugas Cup MVP". I requested a move for Karaliaus Mindaugo taurė to be moved to King Mindaugas Cup, so I'm requesting for this article to be moved to King Mindaugas Cup MVP as well to keep in line with WP:ENGLISHNAME as well.. -- Shadow of the Starlit Sky 23:53, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Karaliaus Mindaugo taurė → King Mindaugas Cup – WP:ENGLISHNAME. When I google this, English sources say "King Mindaugas Cup" while Lithuanian sources say "Karaliaus Mindaugo taurė". -- Shadow of the Starlit Sky 23:45, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Bondari Esfahani → Bundari – Per WP:COMMON NAME. --HistoryofIran (talk) 22:54, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Edmonton F.C. (England) → Edmonton F.C. – Appears to be the primary topic, ahead of Edmonton Aviators (who used the name "Edmonton F.C." for a few weeks in 2004), and FC Edmonton (who were not known as "Edmonton F.C." in any reliable sources.) 162 etc. (talk) 19:43, 14 April 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. – MaterialWorks (contribs) 20:07, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Edwards syndrome → Trisomy 18 – The most common name in reliable sources. See NGRAM or Google Scholar results since 2010: 3700 for "Edwards syndrome", 16,500 for Trisomy 18. Additionally the proposed name is consonant with some other article titles for trisomies, such as Trisomy X. (t · c) buidhe 19:41, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Severance Hall → Severance Music Center – In 2021, The Cleveland Orchestra announced the renaming of "Severance Hall" to "Severance Music Center" (https://www.clevelandorchestra.com/press-resources/press-releases/2021-releases/2021-09-30-mandel-foundation-historic-grant/). All 2023 press releases so far indicate "Severance Music Center" (https://www.clevelandorchestra.com/press-resources/press-releases/2023-releases/), and the "about" sections no longer say "Severance Hall" (https://www.clevelandorchestra.com/discover/severance/). Other sites have also updated their listing to reflect the name change (https://www.clevescene.com/cleveland/severance-music-center/Location?oid=1432086). As of last year, the local press have respected the name change (https://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/2022/09/cleveland-orchestras-severance-music-center-season-offers-a-treasure-trove-of-classical-music-offerings-for-northeast-ohio-2022-preview.html). Non-local press have switched, too (https://seenandheard-international.com/2023/02/klaus-makela-on-his-return-to-cleveland-excels-in-most-of-the-program/). Archivist1918 (talk) 17:48, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Kunst-Wet/Arts-Loi metro station → Arts-Loi metro station – I am starting a move request to retitle this article to its French name, and as such bring it in line with all the other stations of the Brussels Metro, as per the Brussels naming convention established back in 2007 on WP:BELG (see Talk:Brussels-Capital Region/NamingArchive3). In short, the consensus back then in Brussels articles was to use only a single name without any separators (e.g. "/") for clarity, choosing either the French or Dutch alternative (or an English form when existant) depending on the most common usage. Although I am a big defender of Brussels' bilingual status, as far as English Wikipedia is concerned, this role nearly always falls on the French form (that language being by far the most commonly spoken one in the region). I have already manually changed the other stations' names (when required) to meet the above-mentioned criteria. However, this particular article and Maalbeek/Maelbeek metro station are blocked from further moves, leading to both articles' bilingual names remaining as somewhat of an anomaly. I also started a move request on that other article's talk page. Jason Lagos (talk) 17:45, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Maalbeek/Maelbeek metro station → Maelbeek metro station – I am starting a move request to retitle this article to its French name, and as such bring it in line with all the other stations of the Brussels Metro, as per the Brussels naming convention established back in 2007 on WP:BELG (see Talk:Brussels-Capital Region/NamingArchive3). In short, the consensus back then in Brussels articles was to use only a single name without any separators (e.g. "/") for clarity, choosing either the French or Dutch alternative (or an English form when existant) depending on the most common usage. Although I am a big defender of Brussels' bilingual status, as far as English Wikipedia is concerned, this role nearly always falls on the French form (that language being by far the most commonly spoken one in the region). I have already manually changed the other stations' names (when required) to meet the above-mentioned criteria. However, this particular article and Kunst-Wet/Arts-Loi metro station are blocked from further moves, leading to both articles' bilingual names remaining as somewhat of an anomaly. I also started a move request on that other article's talk page. Jason Lagos (talk) 17:43, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – JLT (John Lindberg Trio) → John Lindberg Trio – Wikipedia:Acronym (name)-style disambiguation not needed, a hatnote will suffice. * Pppery * it has begun... 17:14, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Apple Campus → Apple Campus (Infinite Loop) – There are multiple Apple Campuses, and a disambiguation is necessary. Plus, Apple markets the retail location at Infinite Loop as Apple Infinite Loop, leading not to be a more COMMONNAME among consumers. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 17:10, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Al Fushqa District → Al-Fashaga District – Per Google results, it seems to be twice as common to me. "Al-Fashaga" also has 90 Google Scholar results while "Al Fushqa" has 4. If this RM is successful, consider taking a look at the one at Talk:2020–2023 Ethiopian–Sudanese clashes#Requested move 21 April 2023. Super Ψ Dro 16:58, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2020–2023 Ethiopian–Sudanese clashes → Al Fushqa conflict – Shorter, and more precise title, per Al Fushqa District area in dispute. Alternatively Al Fushqa District conflict could be used. It would be useful to receive the participation of an expert in this matter because I know almost nothing about this conflict. Super Ψ Dro 16:55, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Russian apartment bombings → 1999 Russian apartment bombings – This article has a way too general title. Yesterday Russia bombed itself at Belgorod and while doing a Google search I ended up in a Second Chechen War article. That should say something. Super Ψ Dro 16:18, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – PNC Plaza → 500W – Hello, just wanted to make a thread asking to move/change the name of the title PNC Plaza to 500W. After the building was brought by Someraroad, the name of the building changed to 500W. It gets confusing for tenants searching up 500W and seeing it is still PNC Plaza. I attached some article showcasing the change in name. Let me know if you need anything else, thanks. Here is a article link [1]https://www.wdrb.com/in-depth/new-owner-plans-to-change-the-trajectory-of-aging-louisville-office-tower/article_6f5d1f7a-b4ed-11eb-a1f1-93d90b5cacc0.html Let me know if this works. Here is another link where the building itself is just being referred to as 500W. [2]https://www.bizjournals.com/louisville/news/2021/12/22/construction-begins-on-downtown-tower-renovation.html Rliu5875 (talk) 16:13, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Aldol reaction → Aldol addition – Aldol reaction (singular) refers to Aldol additions in English. While in other languages its referring to the general set of reactions. So for chemists who are fluent in English but it's not their first language (which is fairly common within Wikipedia chemistry) its caused some editing mistakes. The majority of the page is about aldol addition, but there were some sections about the overall pair of reaction which have since been moved to Aldol reactions. With only two mentions of aldol condensations kept where it explained how certain reaction conditions are necessary for Aldol additions (to avoid condensation). See above for more information Talk:Aldol reaction#Mistake in translation (Aldol reaction vs. reactions) LoomCreek (talk) 15:38, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Jonathan Stone → Jonathan Stone (mayor) – Newly created New Hampshire politician is closer to a ptopic than the 2009 created Massachusetts politician and mayor. I would accept moving only the current non-dab article and having a dab article created in its place. (Though if Jonathan Stone (author) ever gets created, I believe that would be the superseding ptopic.) Note that the incoming links to the non-dab article would need to be changed, though there are only a handful of them. UtherSRG (talk) 12:43, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Fuji Xerox → Fujifilm Business Innovation – This is the case of the 'same company, but with a new name'. The Japanese Wikipedia already renamed their article. So, why can't we? JSH-alive/talk/cont/mail 06:47, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Mana → Mana (Oceanian culture) – I'm not convinced that the average English reader recognizes this term as synonymous with this topic to the extent required by the disambiguation guidelines. This seems to be evidenced by the existence and usage of two hatnotes, both of which are in fact on top of the list of the most clicked links in the article at the WikiNav clickstream data for Mana, which is indicative of a problem with navigation. In March 2023 data, of the 17.1k incoming views, there were 839 outgoing views to Mana (disambiguation), 531 outgoing views to Manna and then 389 to Orenda which is an italicized term in the lead section, etc. 1370 out of ~17000 is ~8%, which isn't nominally a lot per se, but it has previously been indicative of navigation issues. This is because we can't really be sure that this statistic translates into ~92% readers actually ending up in the right place, as some readers might find it interesting to read about something that they weren't looking for, which is fine, but some might just give up and not read much more, which is not.
Mass views statistics for all Mana topics indicates that there's a wide smattering of largely homonymous topics that have larger or comparable readership. Some were already mentioned, also in the previous MR shown above, and apparently there's also a Japanese musician who became prominent.
I also tried to verify what happens in other similar sources of information. At a Google Books search for Mana and while this topic is the most common one, there's a fair bit of other stuff in there in the first couple of pages as well. At e.g. Britannica when one searches for 'mana', it prominently displays their article about this concept, but doesn't short-circuit readers, and instead shows a list in which the next item is the homonymous South American geography topic. At encyclopedia.com, they also show a list of topics when searching for the term, and happen to show Mana-Zucca and Maná before this concept.
I think we should give full disambiguation a try and see how it affects reader behavior, obviously keeping the link to this topic on top, collate the data over a period of a couple of months (until the various search engine patterns settle, from previous experience it takes a while), and then proceed accordingly based on that.
Obviously, "Oceanian culture" is just one very generic possible disambiguation marker, please feel free to propose a better alternative. --Joy (talk) 00:38, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Areas annexed by Germany → Areas annexed by Nazi Germany – - All the territories listed in the article were annexed by Nazi Germany, not by the German Empire or any other German regime, there was no reason at all to change it. -- 2804:248:FB27:CD00:3842:F105:8805:F5FF (talk) 00:37, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Yi Ik (born 1681) → Yi Ik – Currently, the page Yi Ik is a disambiguation page that contains only one blue-linked article. There is no need for a disambiguation page when there is only one topic on the wiki. The disambiguation page was created in 2006, yet there still is no articles on the English wiki for the other men named Yi Ik with red-links. ⁂CountHacker (talk) 00:30, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – National Justice Council → National Council of Justice – The term "National Council of Justice" is the officially adopted English translation used in the Constitution of the Federative Republic of Brazil (https://www2.senado.leg.br/bdsf/bitstream/handle/id/243334/Constitution_2013.pdf?sequence=11&isAllowed=y). Also, the Federal Supreme Court (https://portal.stf.jus.br/internacional/content.asp?id=283524&ori=2&idioma=en_us) and the National Council of Justice itself (https://www.cnj.jus.br/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/brazilian-judiciary-environmental-policy-eng.pdf) uses the name "National Council of Justice" in its English-language materials and communications. Updating the Wikipedia page ensures consistenty and accuracy with the official translation and alignment with the organization's preferred nomenclature. Crasnek (talk) 00:12, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
April 20, 2023
- (Discuss) – Das Kapital → Capital (book) – Previous move discussions Special:Permalink/1146764052#Requested move 23 May 2018, Special:Permalink/1146764052#Requested move 22 November 2019, and Special:Permalink/1071069187#Requested move 6 December 2019 generally relied on anecdotal evidence that "Das Kapital" is the WP:COMMONNAME which I contest here. While I agree that parenthetical disambiguation isn't beautiful, neither is the fact that "Das Kapital" is used for Das Kapital, Volume I when that name is used at a ratio of one to fifty per Google scholar. Google ngram shows that "Marx's Capital" is used more often than "Marx's Das Kapital" at a ratio of three to one. [1] As does Google scholar at a ratio of six to one. ("Marx's Capital" vs "Marx's Das Kapital") Google search hits finds usage at a ratio of seventeen to one. ("Marx's Capital" vs "Marx's Das Kapital") Per Google scholar: # "Capital Volume I" is used over "Das Kapital Volume I" at a ratio of seventeen to one. ([2] vs [3]) # "Capital Volume II" is used over "Das Kapital Volume II" at a ratio of fifty to one. ([4] vs [5]) # "Capital Volume III" is used over "Das Kapital Volume III" at a ratio of thirty-three to one. ([6] vs [7]) And Google ngram finds no results at all for "Das Kapital Volume I/II/III", as opposed to "Capital Volume I/II/III". ([8]) I've edited this section slightly to make it more clear. :3 F4U (they/it) 19:30, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Gangnam (Seoul) → Gangnam – Per sources below, "Gangnam" most commonly is used to refer to the cultural region, while "Gangnam-gu"/"Gangnam District" is used to refer to the specific administrative district. Kangnam County, Kangnam Mountains, and Kangnam (singer) all have natural disambiguation through their MR-spelling (and are unambiguously not the primary topic). As well, the distinction of "District" (and the redirect Gangnam-gu) provides natural disambiguation for Gangnam District. * "It was not until I became more familiar with Seoul that I realized that 'Kangnam' had two broader connotations. The broadest encompasses all the districts south of the Han. A slightly more restrictive but more common use of the term referred to multiple, recently developed ku south of the Han, not just Kangnam-gu, which were associated with modern high-rise apartment complexes and the new middle class." (Lett 1998, p. 102) * "While Gangnam can be defined in different ways–from the narrowest, limited to just the administrative district of Gangnam-gu itself, to the broadest, which would encompass the whole area south of the Han River – I follow the conventional and common definition of Gangnam as an area composed of the three administrative units of Gangnam-gu, Seocho-gu, and Songpa-gu." (Yang 2018, p. 3408) It's also worth noting that the disambiguation page predates the Gangnam (Seoul) article by 17 years. :3 F4U (they/it) 19:14, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Alternative Faso → Le Faso Autrement – "Faso Alternative" is a decidedly wrong translation, the most faithful translation of the original name would be "Faso Otherwise". However the first translation is used from a handful of sources (which may have been influenced by Wikipedia) and the second translation is attested by a few sources, so in cases like this it is better to use the uncotroversial original name. Scia Della Cometa (talk) 14:50, 13 April 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 18:43, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Green-light → Greenlight – This article was created with the correct title "Greenlight" on 12 September 2004. In violation of MOS:RETAIN, User:Eric improperly moved this article to "Green-light" in 2010. The term "greenlight" (as a verb) is most commonly used in American English and has not been hyphenated in formal written America*n English for at least four decades. I already raised this issue on the talk page in 2019 and no one has defended User:Eric's clear violation of MOS:RETAIN. It's time to move this article back to the correct title. Coolcaesar (talk) 18:16, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – News Central (Philippine TV series) → News Central (Philippine TV program) – Not a series by definition Mvcg66b3r (talk) 16:36, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – David Webber → David Webber (scientist) – I recently created David Webber (basketball). I then noticed that there were two David Webbers in the see also section of David Weber (disambiguation) (one "b"). I noticed that Mortimer Plumtree (stagename of a David Webber) was relevant to this topic and added him and (basketball) to the single-"b" see also section. Then, I decided that the double-"b" should have a separate dab, which I created at (disambiguation). Then, after some time spent with pageviews, it became clear that David Webber is not primary. I am here because it is not clear to me whether the proper destination for David Webber is David Webber (scientist), David Webber (computer scientist) or David Webber (information technologist). The former is the most concise, the middle is an actual category from his page, the latter is the referent from the opening sentence of his WP:LEAD. I would like feedback on the proper distination for him.- TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:29, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Juicebox (container) → Juicebox – The juicebox, being a commonly used everyday object, I argue is the primary topic because the other things on the juicebox dab are pieces of media with "juicebox" in it. The only thing on the dab that somewhat competes with this for primary topic status is Juice Box, but this not an issue because of already-existing natural disambiguation. Snowmanonahoe (talk) 14:49, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Kirsty Howat-Thomson → Kirsty Howat – Unsure where the 'Thomson' comes from or why it is included in the page title. Even if it is her legal name - and I don't know if it is - it isn't mentioned in the article text or any of the cited sources, and she is only listed as Howat by Rangers, the SFA, Soccerway, etc., and on her own social media. Jellyman (talk) 12:57, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Cars (video game) → Cars: The Videogame – This is what it's officially titled. ErceÇamurOfficial (talk) 12:27, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Malacca International Trade Centre → Melaka International Trade Centre – Official name Hongqilim (talk) 11:53, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Astana Economic Forum → Astana International Forum – The Astana Economic Forum has gone through two name changes since its inception and is now called the Astana International Forum. The name change can be seen here from an announcement by the government of Kazakhstan: Kazakhstan launches new Astana International Forum to address key global challenges (www.gov.kz) FM23PA (talk) 10:14, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Food and dining in the Roman Empire → Food in ancient Rome – avoid the "and", and enlarge Roman Empire to ancient Rome => better defined subject yet fitting the present content. See also the discussion just above. Astirmays (talk) 08:18, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Johnson v. M'Intosh → Johnson v. McIntosh – This would bring the title in line with (1) the rest of the article, (2) the spelling of McCulloch v. Maryland (which, like McIntosh, was originally printed as "M‘Culloch"), (3) the modern spelling used by the U.S. Supreme Court, such as in County of Oneida v. Oneida Indian Nation of New York State (1985) (citing "McIntosh"), (4) William McIntosh's own signature, which includes the letter c, (5) the spelling used by the Library of Congress, Justia, and sometimes Oyez. The contrary style, using a turned comma (M‘Intosh), was the printed approximation used by early volumes of the United States Reports to represent a superscript c in "Mc-" names on a printing press without superscript letters. (Michael G. Collins, M‘Culloch and the Turned Comma, 12 Greenbag 2d 265 (2009).) SilverLocust (talk) 05:48, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Minister for Lands and Property → Minister for Water (New South Wales) – There is no need for a second article on the Lands Minister. The Water Ministry, currently covered in the Lands and Property article, can be expanded to be the focus of the second article. DilatoryRevolution (talk) 05:15, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Two Knights Defense, Max Lange Attack → Italian Game, Max Lange Attack – This can also arise from the following move order: 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.O-O Nf6 5.d4!? exd4 6.e5! (Giuoco Piano) Italian Game includes both, while Two Knights Defence is a very specific order of moves. Jishiboka1 (talk) 05:03, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ministry of Investment, Trade and Industry → Ministry of Investment, Trade and Industry (Malaysia) – While the current name is unique in English Wikipedia, the naming of the ministry is very generic and the country may not be clear to readers at first glance. The proposed rename follows WP:TITLEDAB. RevelationDirect (talk) 04:03, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Minister for Homes → Minister for Housing (New South Wales) – Portfolio has been renamed as per the commencement of the Minns ministry. This is most likely a round-robin page swap. GarbageKarate (talk) 04:02, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
April 19, 2023
- (Discuss) – High island → Volcanic island – This is the common name for such islands, as discussed above. Mikenorton (talk) 21:08, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Small Flowery Miao → Small Flowery Miao language – Gha-Mu is how the people refer to themselves, see Gha-Mu people. "Language" must be added to the title, since "Miao" or "Gha-Mu", and so on, can easily refer to both the people and the language, such as Small Flowery Miao (language) vs. Small Flowery Miao people. "Language" also needs to be added per WP:TITLECON (Consistency – The title is consistent with the pattern of similar articles' titles), one of the 5 key pillars of WP:NC. In the past, this was not discussed by enough people since there was only one voter. For the sake of consistency with all the other articles in Category:Hmongic languages, including Mashan Miao language, Guiyang Miao language, Huishui Miao language, and Luobohe Miao language, it is best to move to Gha-Mu language. Lingnanhua (talk) 19:00, 12 April 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Arbitrarily0 (talk) 20:26, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 1891 Mino–Owari earthquake → 1891 Nōbi earthquake – This earthquake is known as “Nōbi earthquake”(濃尾地震).126.255.227.237 (talk) 13:32, 12 April 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. 〜 Festucalex • talk 17:17, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Anglican–Roman Catholic dialogue → Anglican–Catholic relations – Harmonisation with Catholic–Protestant relations and Catholic–Eastern Orthodox relations. Also, "Roman Catholic" is not used anymore on WP's titles, only "Catholic". Veverve (talk) 15:07, 12 April 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. 〜 Festucalex • talk 17:15, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – New Latin → Neo-Latin – I have yet to find an article, book or academic programme about Neo-Latin that uses the term "New Latin" as is used here. Although dictionaries have the term, it does not seem to be in common use outside of Wikipedia. All the major recent studies use the term Neo-Latin, likewise all of the courses and programmes in Universities on the topic. A quick look at the sources at the foot of the main page show fourteen books using the term Neo-Latin, and none using "New Latin", for example. Wikipedia should reflect external consensus in naming, rather than following its own path. Jim Killock (talk) 15:12, 12 April 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. 〜 Festucalex • talk 17:10, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – The Adventures of Pussycat → Pussycat (comics) – The comic strip's name (and the name of the protagonist) is "Pussycat", which ran from 1965 to 1972 or 1980 or whatever, depending on how you count. "The Adventures of Pussycat" is a publication featuring the strip from 1968 (and even that is questionable BoomboxTestarossa (talk) 15:38, 19 April 2023 (UTC). So unless we're going to have separate pages on the strip/character and the single magazine it makes more sense to have the article sited at the more flexible redirect rather than here. BoomboxTestarossa (talk) 15:38, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Sujatha baliga → Sujatha Baliga – Per standard English grammar and following sources, e.g. NY Times 1 & 2, UPI. I don't think that the use of the lowercase form, while present in some sources, meets the standard at Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Capital letters#Personal names of "regular and established use in reliable independent sources". Also, it's quite confusing to present a proper noun in lowercase, and would argue against this guideline section under the general, broader MoS guideline to "write articles using straightforward, succinct, easily understood language" (second paragraph of main MoS page). Tol (talk | contribs) @ 03:09, 11 April 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 15:08, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Controversies surrounding Mass Effect 3 → Mass Effect 3 ending controversy – This article reads as a list of grievances about a game that is generally frowned upon on Wikipedia. The ending issue is indisputably notable, but regarding the others: Day-One DLC is a standard practice, not a controversy, and any negative reception about that can be discussed on the DLC page. Tali is already mentioned in her own article. It doesn't need to be said that the idea of gay content being controversial is WP:FRINGE to be given an entire section. Shepard's redesign was largely embraced and only drew criticism from a small group. And a game journalist having a cameo as a journalist journalist is somehow horrific? I would argue the article be refocused solely on the ending. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 15:00, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Historicity of the Homeric epics → Historicity of the Iliad – This was the stable title until a 2017 move to Historicity of Homer. In 2018, the page was rightly removed from that title to the current one. Homeric Question discusses the historicity of Homer himself. The article remains chiefly focused on the Iliad, and barring some truly historic discovery, there will never be much to say about the historicity of the Odyssey specifically; the word is not used in the Odyssey article, nor in Odysseus. Because the two epics are often treated together, I have no objection to the current title continuing to redirect, but believe the more longstanding Historicity of the Iliad title is most appropriate. --BDD (talk) 14:51, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Life of Jesus → Life of Jesus (disambiguation) – per WP:ASTONISH and WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. The primary topic of life of Jesus is the life of Jesus/Christ article, this is a (disambiguation) page with a few books and films on it named after the actual primary topic. Move and redirect to the expected article. In ictu oculi (talk) 14:47, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – N'Ko script → N'Ko alphabet – See WP:NCWS#Alphabets, requiring "language-specific"; consensus at WT:NCWS was that this should cover one or more languages; N'Ko was designed specifically for a closely related group of languages (Manding languages). The people themselves, and academics, call it an alphabet: 1. Its readers and writers celebrate "N'Ko Alphabet Day", see cites in the article or google the quoted term. 2. Its creator Solomana Kanté's grave is marked 'inventor of the N'Ko alphabet' (not 'script'); see photo of that in the article. Other refs from the article: 3. Oyler, Dianne White (1997). "The N'ko Alphabet as a Vehicle of Indigenist Historiography". 4. Sogoba, Mia (2018). "N'Ko Alphabet: a West African Script". 5. Doumbouya, Mamady (2012). "Illustrated English/N'Ko Alphabet."... etc. – •Raven .talk 10:20, 10 April 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 14:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – SGR 0525−66 → SGR 0526−66 – There is not a soft gamma repeater named SGR 0525-66.The first SGR that was discovered was the SGR 0526-56 and if you look at the Right ascension witch the SGR is named after you see that the coordinates are 5 hours and 26 minutes and not 25 minutes. Dimitris Gkour (talk) 13:49, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Göktürks → Türks – The name Göktürk is the Oghuz (Azerbaijani, Turkmen, Turkish) version for their original name Türk. The recorded names for them in each neighbouring entity was referencing to as Türk, sources such as Chinese, Sogdian, Tibetan etc. called them "Trukut", "Drugu" etc. Also in their own inscriptions, Göktürks mentioned "Kök-Türk" (Gök-Türk) only once in the third line of Kul Tigin Inscriptions' east side, other than this one and only mention, they invariably referred to themselves as "Türk". Even the first word gök was a misspelling. The popular naming "Göktürk" was either a misreading/misspelling of the Turkic word "kök" or Old Turkic "köök" (meaning as noun "sky, heaven, blue" [as opposing to "tengïr" and "tengïz", all meaning "the blue (sky or sea)"] and as adjective "heavenly, ethereal, spheric, celestial") or the Oghuz Turkic version for the word which is “gök” with the same meaning 'sky' or 'blue'. You can access all the information given above in the article itself, particularly in the etymology section of the article Göktürk. 𐰴𐰺𐰀:𐰆𐰍𐰺 · Karakylchyg 12:02, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Unstable (album) → Unstable (Adema album) – existence of Unstable (Tetrarch album); both albums share a name and genre HurricaneAmputee (talk) 11:10, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Grogu → Din Grogu – reflecting new character name based on adoption by Din Djarin. Steven a91 (talk) 10:21, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Knightmare → Knightmare (TV series) – WP:NOPRIMARY. No clear primary topic by pageviews nor long-term significance. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 07:00, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Muscle tissue → Muscle – There is a need for its own page. A previous page Muscle was merged and redirected to Skeletal muscle but a more general umbrella page is needed, and the content of this page would easily accommodate this. Iztwoz (talk) 06:51, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Tik Tok (song) → Tik Tok – Just minor details in the spelling; a hatnote to social media service TikTok must be sufficient. RMXY (talk) 05:21, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – William P. Foster (jurist) → William P. Foster (swindler) – A swindler who (briefly) succesfully passes himself off as a jurist is not therefore actually a jurist. BD2412 T 04:53, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ling tosite Sigure → Ling Tosite Sigure – Some of the cited sources start "Tosite" with a capital letter (and some of them use "sigure" in all-lowercase). Band names are proper names and usually have each word capitalized on Wikipedia (WP:AT / MOS:CAPS / WP:TMRULES). — BarrelProof (talk) 02:28, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Prehistoric Georgia → Prehistoric Georgia (country) – Prehistory has no affinity for Georgia (country) over Georgia (U.S. state). Compare History of Georgia (country), History of Georgia (U.S. state). BD2412 T 02:26, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 1990 Peak AntiFreeze 500 → 1990 Peak Antifreeze 500 – Unneeded capital letter, also see 1991 Peak Antifreeze 500 Nascar9919 (talk) 02:10, 2 April 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. {{ping|ClydeFranklin}} (t/c) 04:08, 9 April 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 00:16, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Kool London → Kool FM – For many years, London radio station Kool has an article at Kool FM. In 2010, they started becoming also known as Kool London and so the article was moved, with Kool FM providing a redirect. Kool has since been taken over by Rinse FM and is to revert to its historical name of Kool FM. I did a Cut and Paste move between the two but this is apparently frowned upon. It just needs the main article at Kool London back to Kool FM, and then the redirect switched to Kool London. See two supporting refs: 77.86.103.78 (talk) 17:10, 2 April 2023 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Steel1943 (talk) 21:12, 3 April 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. – CityUrbanism 🗩 🖉 14:21, 11 April 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 00:15, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2023 Beijing hospital fire → Changfeng Hospital fire – more specific Bremps! 00:00, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
April 18, 2023
- (Discuss) – Iron Lynx → Iron Lynx / Iron Dames – Both teams have equal status and in the interest of equality, the name should reflect as such. 86.42.192.85 (talk) 23:22, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Elisha Cooke Sr. → Elisha Cooke – The main title header Elisha Cooke Sr. should redirect to Elisha Cooke, not the opposite. Cites appended to the article, such as [9] or [10] confirm that subject was known as simply Elisha Cooke. An existing hatnote atop his entry already points to his son, Elisha Cooke Jr. — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 20:45, 11 April 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. MaterialWorks (contribs) 22:44, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2001–02 Egyptian Super Cup → 2001 Egyptian Super Cup – Based on the previous discussions above, most popular opinion was to name the Super Cups by the years they took place. Other Egyptian Super Cup pages were already moved with the same rationale. Pelmeen10 (talk) 08:35, 6 April 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 20:07, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- 2002–03 Egyptian Super Cup → 2002 Egyptian Super Cup
- 2003–04 Egyptian Super Cup → 2003 Egyptian Super Cup
- 2004–05 Egyptian Super Cup → 2004 Egyptian Super Cup
- 2005–06 Egyptian Super Cup → 2005 Egyptian Super Cup
- 2006–07 Egyptian Super Cup → 2006 Egyptian Super Cup
- 2014–15 Egyptian Super Cup → 2014 Egyptian Super Cup
- (Discuss) – Life of Christ (disambiguation) → Life of Christ – Like Life of Jesus, there is no primary topic. Srnec (talk) 20:07, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Brecon Beacons National Park → Bannau Brycheiniog National Park – Per the ongoing discussion on the talk page, the park has officially been renamed as the "Bannau Brycheiniog National Park". We can just as easily keep a redirect from the old to the new name. I believe WP:NAMECHANGES should take precedence over WP:COMMONNAME in this scenario, but let's discuss. Pinging users involved in prior discussion for courtesy. — That Coptic Guy (let's talk?) (contribs) 20:04, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Japanese festivals → Matsuri – Matsuri is a concept broader than festivals, and this is about religious festivals not secular ones, see for example the work of Hirata Atsutane. Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 15:36, 11 April 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. MaterialWorks (contribs) 18:26, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Mertens → Mertens (disambiguation) – Mertens most commonly refers to Dries Mertens, and I think he is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, so this should redirect to Dries Mertens. ErceÇamurOfficial (talk) 17:32, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Overseas Pakistani → Pakistani diaspora – Undiscussed move in 2014 but also the article is about the diaspora and thus the title should match the rest of the diaspora articles. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 02:07, 18 April 2023 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:57, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Washington Freedom → Washington Freedom Soccer – this is an inactive soccer team ... WSHEdit (talk) 15:28, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Masked Man → The Masked Man – "The Masked Man" is the character and comic title; The Masked Man is currently a little-used redirect to a minor character from Celebrity Deathmatch which would be better served by a disambig on top of the page BoomboxTestarossa (talk) 14:21, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Frederik Marcus Knuth → Frederik Marcus Knuth (taxonomist) – Surely the Minister of Foreign Affairs for Denmark takes precedence over a taxonomist. Clarityfiend (talk) 13:56, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – GRU (Russian Federation) → GRU – no page should redirect to the page with the same name with brackets. ErceÇamurOfficial (talk) 12:30, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Moldovan Orthodox Church (disambiguation) → Moldovan Orthodox Church – The expression "Moldovan Orthodox Church" does not have a clear primary topic as all three possible meanings are equally used in sources. Therefore, according to the guidelines outlined in WP:DISAMBIG, the page should simply be titled "Moldovan Orthodox Church". Nagsb (talk) 10:01, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Typhoon Joan (1970) → Typhoon Joan – The names was a retired without a (1970) 112.209.21.103 (talk) 06:54, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – History of Israel (1948–present) → History of the State of Israel – There's a name for it, without the need for brackets. Triggerhippie4 (talk) 06:36, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – GMK → GMK (disambiguation) – Godzilla, Mothra and King Ghidorah: Giant Monsters All-Out Attack is the primary topic. Eiga-Kevin2 (talk) 04:45, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Game Changer (upcoming film) → Game Changer (film) – This is the only film with the title, but "Game Changer (film)" currently redirects to The Gamechangers. Kailash29792 (talk) 04:44, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Luke Merrill (soccer, born 2000) → Luke Merrill – unnecessary disambiguation Joeykai (talk) 04:15, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Vítor Oliveira (footballer, born 2000) → Vitinha (footballer, born March 2000) – Vítor Oliveira's (Marseille) WP:COMMONNAME has recently become Vitinha. Sources now refer to him as Vitinha, it's what it says on the back of his shirt, etc, although that wasn't the case before. Now it is the case, so my first point is that moving him to Vitinha is correct because of COMMONNAME. For the other Vitinha (PSG), who is more well known, it's well established that he goes by Vitinha. However, keeping the article name at the current name is bad, because it creates ambiguity with the other Vitinha, who is also born in 2000. People are highly likely to know both players under the name Vitinha, especially those unfamiliar with Portuguese football, so moving to a month distinction is the way to go. This is of course assuming that Vitinha is the established COMMONNAME for Vítor Oliveira, which I believe it to be. Paul Vaurie (talk) 03:15, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Hurricane Lorenzo (2019) → Hurricane Lorenzo – The name was Good without a (2019) 122.2.118.211 (talk) 02:36, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Paul R. Abramson → Paul R. Abramson (psychologist) – I see no primary topic against Paul R. Abramson (political scientist), who despite having a shorter article is no less prominent of a figure in the history of their field. BD2412 T 01:07, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
April 17, 2023
- (Discuss) – ONE Championship → One Championship – Per previoius discussion on talk page, the "ONE" is a word, not an acronym, so should not be all-caps, per MOS:TM and MOS:CAPS. Dicklyon (talk) 23:53, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Monochrome painting → Monochrome (visual arts) – Removing the arguably restrictive category of "painting" from the page title will naturally incorporate more mediums and movements, several of which are already discussed in the article (Minimalism is one such example). It will also follow terminology adapted by major cultural institutions including the Tate Modern and the Museum of Modern Art. I could provide further evidence, though I really do not see this as a particularly controversial move and did not want to make the decision myself so as to allow for community input. Ppt91talk 23:29, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Macedonian Muslims → Torbesh – The Torbesh are a Slavic-speaking Muslim community in the Republic of North Macedonia. The Torbesh are a distinct group which speaks one of the Slavic dialects of Macedonia. The title Macedonian Muslims is based on the assumption that the Torbesh identify themselves as Macedonians in terms of ethnicity and/or national identity, but most don't do so and quite tellingly only half of ethnic Macedonians would consider them to be Macedonians (Damjanovski 2021). In the 2021 census, most Torbesh didn't declare themselves as ethnic Macedonians who follow Islam but either registered themselves in the category "Other" or depending on the municipality as Turks or Albanians. The article should have the title Torbesh which is the most accepted name used in bibliography to refer to them as it reflects their endonym without any reference to particular competing national identities which a majority of them have chosen to not adopt. *Damjanovski, Ivan (2021) Old Communities and New Controversies: the community of Macedonian-speaking Muslims between ethnicity and religion, Political Thought 62:
The Macedonian speaking Muslims (usually referred to as Torbesh) are a specific ethno-confessional group that predominantly lives in North Macedonia, as well as in some geographical regions in Albania and Kosovo. Also there is a big number of ethnonyms ascribed to the Macedonian speaking Muslims. Amongst others, most notable ethnonyms that are used in different regional contexts in Macedona are: Nashintsi, Pomaks, Apovci, Poturi and Turks. However the most widespread ethnonym (which is also accepted in the academic and political circles) is Torbesh, although the term has polarizing effects on some parts of the Macedonian speaking Muslim community.
Maleschreiber (talk) 23:19, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Lynne Williams → Lynne Williams (educator) – No indication that the stub delineating the Australian music educator is primary over the stub for the American Lynne Williams (politician). The main title header Lynne Williams should redirect to the Lynn Williams disambiguation page. — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 21:51, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Abortion-rights movements → Pro-abortion movements – This new title maintains a consistency with Anti-abortion movements. Also maintains neutral point of view. What are your thoughts on this? Wikiexplorationandhelping (talk) 21:20, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Donkey Kong (video game) → Donkey Kong (arcade game) – or Donkey Kong (1981 video game). The current title is insufficiently precise to clearly identify what it is about. The whole Donkey Kong franchise is a video game franchise, and it includes various video games that are branded as Donkey Kong games, so having "(video game)" in the title provides very little disambiguation from the other topics. See also Donkey Kong (about the video game franchise), Donkey Kong (disambiguation), List of Donkey Kong video games, Donkey Kong (Game & Watch), Donkey Kong (1994 video game), etc. — BarrelProof (talk) 19:19, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Mihailo Obrenović → Mihailo Obrenović, Prince of Serbia – The main reason motivating this proposed move is establishing a consistency in article titles that cover ruling Princes of Serbia. A few weeks ago, this page and Miloš Obrenović, Prince of Serbia were the only pages that did not conform to this format. The page for Miloš Obrenović was recently moved to the current format after a proposed move discussion and the resulting article name was one that the editors either explicitly agreed on, were willing to accept or addressed their opposing thoughts. One editor explicitly proposed addressing this page should the page for Miloš Obrenović be moved the way it was ultimately agreed upon. I'd like to note that ruling Princes of Monaco, an existing principality, follow this format in page titles. Killuminator (talk) 16:53, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Noname (rapper) → Noname – Target currently redirects to No Name (a dab page) but the only other entry on that page without a space is a pen name of Luis Senarens. Since there's not even a redirect for that pen name at current, and even then it's not the title of that writer's page, I think it would make sense to call this primary topic and take off "(rapper)". Could also add a hatnote here linking to Senarens. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 16:09, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Bangkok railway station → Bangkok (Hua Lamphong) railway station – Official documentation by the State Railway of Thailand (that operates the station) now refer to the railway station as Bangkok (Hua Lamphong) to distinguish it from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Terminal which is Bangkok's newer main railway station. Logically, the title of this page should reflect this change. Sastravuth1786 (talk) 03:08, 10 April 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 15:08, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Plac Zbawiciela → Saviour Square – "Saviour Square" is an English name of this place, as opposed to "Plac Zbawiciela" which is Polish name. All other places of this sort in the city (and in general) have their Wikipedia articles' names with thier English names. Additionally, even if keeping Polish name, word "Place" is usually be replaced with English "Square" instead in articles names on English Wikipedia, which would make it "Zbawiciela Square" instead anyway. Artemis Andromeda (talk) 15:05, 8 April 2023 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). EdJohnston (talk) 00:41, 9 April 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 15:04, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Aiden English → Matthew Rehwoldt – This page needs to be moved under his real name. We have a bad tendency around here to keep people under their WWE names even long after they moved on to other companies and use different names. The WP:Common Name theory really doesn't apply here, yet some editors cling to it like a teddy bear. This move has to be made, so you can count me in as a Support right off he bat. Vjmlhds (talk) 13:45, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Shein → Shein (disambiguation) – I think Shein (company) would be better if its primary given its views. GlatorNator (ᴛ) 12:46, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – CNN+ → CNN+ (streaming service) – Now that the defunct Spanish TV channel has effectively outlived the short-lived U.S. streaming service, shouldn't the Spanish one take the priority? If not, couldn't CNN+ (TV network) at least be moved to CNN+ (TV channel), as it was not a 'network of regional TV stations' but a 'single channel used to be available nationwide'? JSH-alive/talk/cont/mail 11:59, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Pingtang Miao → Pingtang Miao language – Requesting a move request per WP:TITLECON (Consistency – The title is consistent with the pattern of similar articles' titles), one of the 5 key pillars of WP:NC. In the past, this was not discussed by enough people since there was only one voter. For the sake of consistency with all the other articles in Category:Hmongic languages, including Mashan Miao language, Guiyang Miao language, Huishui Miao language, and Luobohe Miao language, it is best to move to Pingtang Miao language. Furthermore, "Miao" can easily refer to both the people and the language, for example Small Flowery Miao (language) vs. Small Flowery Miao people. Lingnanhua (talk) 00:28, 10 April 2023 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). EdJohnston (talk) 03:45, 10 April 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. {{ping|ClydeFranklin}} (t/c) 11:01, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Michael Hayden (general) → Michael Hayden – The current article is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. I propose to move Michael Hayden to Michael Hayden (disambiguation). PhotographyEdits (talk) 10:40, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Uttarandhra → North Andhra – as per WP:COMMONNAME and WP:USEENGLISH based on Google Ngrams [[11]] 456legend(talk) 10:20, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Allahabad → Prayagraj – WP:COMMONNAME, pageviews shows that even when the name change hasn't been done yet even then the pageviews of "prayagraj" is not very far behind "allahabad", also a simple google search with and without quotes, and also major news article the print, ndtv, bbc, the hindu2405:201:501A:E807:299A:BC06:A86D:3B7B (talk) 10:13, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – City of David (archaeological site) → City of David/Wadi Hilweh – Wadi Hilweh is used along with the City of David name for the archaeological site in most sources (regardless of the fact that the site is within the Wadi Hilweh valley anyway), here's a few examples: * known variously as the City of David and Wadi Hilweh *referred to locally by a variety of aliases, and among them "Wadi Hilwe" (in English, "Beautiful Valley") seems to prevail *The City of David (Wadi Hilweh) *Wadi Hilwa has been renamed the ‘City of David’ (Ir David in Hebrew) by Israelis *known as the City of David, or Wadi Hilweh *in an area Palestinians call Wadi Hilweh and Israelis refer to as the City of David *Palestinian call Wadi Hilweh *[12] Makeandtoss (talk) 10:02, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Hurricane Emily (2005) → Hurricane Emily – The name was Good without a (2005) 119.94.56.230 (talk) 09:02, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – PIA flight PK712 hijacking → Pakistan International Airlines Flight 712 – The title is very non-standard on English Wikipedia, compare with other air crash titles. HaydenWong (talk) 04:08, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Stoneman Douglas High School shooting → Parkland shooting – After many years, it seems this is the WP:COMMONNAME for this incident, and I think it's time to move this article as was suggested back in 2019. —Locke Cole • t • c 06:12, 29 March 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 03:06, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Power station → Power plant – A more specific term, power station is most used in British English. Sasquatchcito (talk) 01:48, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Twin Towers → Twin towers (disambiguation) – There is a clear WP:PTOPIC for the search term "Twin Towers": the two towers that were in the World Trade Center (1973-2001) that were destroyed during the September 11 terrorist attacks. As such, the base article should point to that page, while this disambiguation page should be moved to have "(disambiguation)" in its title. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 01:11, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – United States Football League (2022) → United States Football League (2022-present) – It is 2023 and the league's second season is currently underway. Someone2024 (talk) 01:02, 17 April 2023 (UTC) ~~
- (Discuss) – Proslavery → Proslavery thought – I know a lot of editors object to the title "proslavery" because it is generally viewed as an adjective, and we generally prefer nouns to adjectives as article titles. Yes, there is some usage of it as a noun, and even a few dictionaries which include it as a noun, but the adjectival usage predominates. If you look at the academic literature, "proslavery" is the predominant term for this (sometimes hyphenated, especially in older sources, but nowadays more often not); while many think it is something specific to the antebellum US, academic research on the opposition to slavery abolition in the UK uses the term "proslavery" there as well. But, if you look at all that research, the vast majority of it uses "proslavery" as an adjective: Proslavery Britain, Proslavery thought, Proslavery Christianity, Proslavery Ideology, proslavery liberalism, Proslavery rhetoric, Proslavery Foreign Policy, The Pro-Slavery Argument; a few academic researchers do use it as a noun, but the impression I formed in my (far from exhaustive) dive into the literature, is that the noun usage is occasional and vastly outweighed by the adjective. In an attempt to satisfy those editors who dislike the current title, I am proposing Proslavery thought. That's what the Encyclopedia of the New American Nation calls its article on the topic, and the same phrase is used in the titles of two academic works on it: Faust, Drew Gilpin, ed. The ideology of slavery: Proslavery thought in the antebellum South, 1830–1860 (LSU Press, 1981); Brophy, Alfred L. University, court, and slave: Pro-slavery thought in southern colleges and courts and the coming of civil war (Oxford University Press, 2016). While all three of those sources are focused on the antebellum US, proslavery thought is sufficiently broad to encompass the UK proslavery movement as well (see Paula Dumas' book Proslavery Britain). Another option would be proslavery movement. However, I think proslavery thought is superior because: (a) there wasn't a single proslavery movement, so it would really have to be proslavery movements–there was the US one, there was the UK one – and while they borrowed ideas from each other, they were distinct; there were also proslavery movements in other countries which had legal slavery, for example Brazil, although it is much harder to find English language sources on that; (b) there is a long history of proslavery thought in Western culture going back to ancient times, and all those proslavery movements drew on that thought for inspiration – which I think means it makes more sense to make the article scope be the history of proslavery thought overall (incorporating the various proslavery movements within it), rather than just limiting it to those times in history when proslavery became an organised political movement. All that said, I have no objection to leaving the title as-is too. I am just proposing this in the spirit of compromise. SomethingForDeletion (talk) 00:21, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
April 16, 2023
- (Discuss) – Roadwork → Roadwork (novel) – Move and make Roadwork a primary redirect to Roadworks. 162 etc. (talk) 23:41, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Eggheads (TV series) → Eggheads (game show) – In order to follow WP:NCTV and WP:NCBC. BangJan1999 22:24, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Jimmy Spencer (racing driver) → Jimmy Spencer – Per WP:DETERMINEPRIMARY, [[13]] Pageviews since the RM closed in Janurary 2022 reflect that the racing driver has the most wikilinks (942) and the most mentions in reliable sources. [14] Wikinav appears to show 100% of outgoing traffic from the DAB in February went to the racing driver. Further showing that the creation of the dab page at Jimmy Spencer over the article for the racing driver was wholly unneeded (and furthermore, a content fork of the previously-existing James Spencer). ― "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk) 17:19, 9 April 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. {{ping|ClydeFranklin}} (t/c) 19:01, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Saroj Yadav → Saroj Kumar Yadav – Saroj Kumar Yadav is the official and most used name for current CM. Majority medias us this name. Saroj Yadav is either unused or rarely used if any so using this article subject is unjustified.[15][16][17][18][19] Franked2004 (talk) 20:39, 8 April 2023 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Franked2004 (talk) 18:27, 9 April 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. MaterialWorks (contribs) 18:43, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Kevington → Kevington, Victoria – Is the pop 43 place really primary? Though it gets more views most Google and Books results are for the London one but the 1st is probably due to my location. Images is mixed though. This one could be named after the London one suggesting it has more long-term significance. Suggest creating a DAB at the base name. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:02, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Marshall Mills → ? – No clear primary topic over the building in Leeds Marshall's Mill which is "https://historicengland.org.uk/listing/the-list/list-entry/1375160 Marshall Mills]" in the listing and has 98 views compared with only 7[[20]] for this one. Most Google and Images results are for the Leeds mill. The mill also likely has more long-term significance than this footballer as its been around for over 200 years and since its listed will probably be around far into the future. The date of birth and death aren't even known of the footballer. Marshall Mills (American football) would be the obvious choice but it seems that there is another that was active in the 1970s at fr:Marshall Mills which would probably be notable there. There is also Commons:Category:Marshall Mills (International Monetary Fund). I'm unsure on the target but I suggest creating a DAB at the base name or redirecting this title to a DAB. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:57, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Google Stadia → Stadia (gaming service) – Article was moved to incorrect name Google Stadia for no reason. Service is called "Stadia", not "Google Stadia", "Stadia Google" and not "Alphabet Stadia". "Google Stadia" is misleading and fake. Eurohunter (talk) 16:52, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Memorial to the German Resistance → German Resistance Memorial Center – A Google search shows that this is by far the more common name. 'Memorial to the German Resistance' is a direct translation of the German 'Gedenkstätte Deutscher Widerstand', but the official English website and most sources use 'German Resistance Memorial Center'. Much of the content of the page already uses this name. –CWenger (^ • @) 16:19, 9 April 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. MaterialWorks (contribs) 16:50, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Washington University in St. Louis School of Law → Washington University School of Law – Since 2006, the Law School at Washington University in St. Louis has been located at the page Washington University School of Law. Recently, it seems that it was moved to Washington University in St. Louis School of Law. I moved it back to its original location and then it seems to have been moved back from the same user. As such, I'm bringing this up for a discussion and am recommending a change back to its original location of Washington University School of Law for the following reasons: 1. WP:COMMONNAME - Washington University in St. Louis is commonly referred to as Washington University because it held that name for the majority of its time. The Law School being referred to as Washington University School of Law makes sense. 2. WP:PRECISION "in St. Louis" is unnecessary. Titles should unambiguously define the topical scope of the article but should be no more precise than that. According to Washington School of Law, there are 4 law schools which have Washington in the name. American University Washington College of Law, George Washington University Law School, University of Washington School of Law, in Seattle, Washington and Washington University in St. Louis School of Law. The first is a "College of Law", the second is referred to as "George Washington Law School", and the third is often referred to as UW School of Law or University of Washington School of Law. None would be confused with Washington University School of Law. 4. Several sources including its law school facebook page refers to it as Washington University School of Law. Other sources that refer to it as such are https://www.lsd.law/Washington-University-School-of-Law, Newsweek (https://www.newsweek.com/insights/premier-law-schools-2022-23/washington-university-st-louis-school-law), and the American Bar Association: https://www.americanbar.org/groups/center-pro-bono/resources/directory_of_law_school_public_interest_pro_bono_programs/directory/ld125/ Wozal (talk) 15:30, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Birla Institute of Technology and Science, Pilani → BITS Pilani – BITS Pilani is most definately the WP:COMMONNAME here. Trends shows that clearly. >>> Extorc.talk 13:45, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Gamucha → Gamcha – Correct spelling দিব্য দত্ত (talk) 13:39, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Peterburgian Vedism → Russian Vedism – Much more common name and less confusing to people unfamiliar with Russia. Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 23:45, 8 April 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. MaterialWorks (contribs) 11:52, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Park Chung-hee → Park Chung Hee – Suggesting this move under WP:COMMONNAME. "Park Chung Hee" is the most common name per Google ngram. Its also the name used by Encyclopaedia Britannica and academic sources (For example, see this search on jstor of Park Chung-hee). :3 F4U (they/it) 03:05, 9 April 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 11:12, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – NASCAR Cup races at Watkins Glen → NASCAR Cup Series at Watkins Glen – Consistency with lower series pages for similar purpose in "[series] at [track]" format (see NASCAR Xfinity Series at Martinsville as an example). (There was an attempt above but it was procedurally closed due to lack of reasoning... and it was by a sock, no less.) FMecha (to talk|to see log) 09:28, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – LVM 3 → LVM3 – Unneeded space, see this (also the tweet by 'ANI News' within the source) [21]. LVM3 is the correctly spelled official name. Beadrill (talk) 06:02, 9 April 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. {{ping|ClydeFranklin}} (t/c) 07:03, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Atique Ahmed → Atiq Ahmad – A simple look at the sources and a further look into google trends suggests that Atiq is much more common than Atique. Ahmad vs Ahmed is a little debatable but Google trends suggests that Ahmad is a little more common. >>> Extorc.talk 05:54, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Marineland of Canada → Marineland (Canada) – The pages moves I'm proposing are more aligned with current standards unless there's a naming convention I'm unaware of. At the very least, I know that "Marineland of Canada" isn't really called that in the vast majority of sources. It's simply Marineland. Given how disambiguation is typically dealt with, I was wondering if others agree with the proposed page moves? I'm starting an RM because I don't know the ins and outs of all the naming conventions and this proposed move involves multiple pages. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 13:45, 8 April 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. {{ping|ClydeFranklin}} (t/c) 03:45, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Eystein I → Eystein Magnusson – The page was moved to the present title from Eystein I of Norway in October, with the mover citing WP:SOVEREIGNS, despite there being nothing in SOVEREIGNS supporting that move. A move to my proposed title would be consistent with other contemporary Scandinavian monarchs. Further, Eystein Magnusson is the WP:COMMONNAME in academic usage [22]. Estar8806 (talk) 04:00, 8 April 2023 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). EdJohnston (talk) 00:47, 9 April 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. {{ping|ClydeFranklin}} (t/c) 01:30, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – József Cserny (commander) → József Cserny – The name redirects to the Lenin Boys. there is already a page for József Cserny, and the actual name redirects to the Lenin Boys. It's better to remove the redirect so the actual page could just be called József Cserny instead of "József Cserny (commander)" Rahammz (talk) 01:17, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
April 15, 2023
- (Discuss) – Dimash Kudaibergen → Dimash Qudaibergen – The Kazakh language has two letters that correspond to the English 'k' sound - Қ, and К. The canonical transliteration of Қ is now the letter Q in Latin script for English language text. Qudaibergen's English transliteration should therefore be initial Q rather than the now deprecated K. Dimash Qudaibergen also now uses the Q transliteration on all official announcements and product information. It seems to me that the article title should be changed to reflect this. Ratpie (talk) 20:24, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Lingnan culture → Cantonese culture – 1. WP:UCRN According to Google Trends ([23]) and Google Ngram Viewer ([24]) the term 'Cantonese culture' is more widely used. 2. WP:PRECISE If in the article we have to explain that this article is the 'second definition: Cantonese culture' rather than the 'first definition:culture in the Lingnan region', than I don't think it is precise enough. 三葉草SanYeCao 討論Talk 18:46, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Royal Thai Government Gazette → Royal Gazette (Thailand) – The English name of the journal seems to be "Royal Gazette", as seen in the English title of the agency responsible for its publication, the Cabinet and Royal Gazette Publishing Office (see its logo), and in most (if not all) English literature, such as this, this, this, and this. The name "(Thai) Government Gazette" is also found, but seems to be in publications by the Thai Council of State only, such as this. -- Miwako Sato (talk) 18:30, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Drug liberalization → Drug legalization – Google ngram shows "Drug legalization" as the most common term for the topic FromtheEndofElo (talk) 01:52, 8 April 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Arbitrarily0 (talk) 18:23, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Boomerang (TV network) → Boomerang (American TV channel) – to match the new Boomerang (Canadian TV channel) formatting. LichCake (talk) 18:05, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Cartoon Network (Canadian TV channel) → Cartoon Network Canada – In the digital TV guides it displays as "Cartoon Network Canada" plus there are several sources that call it that: *https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCamTL1hUeKU0n8VN68pgnsA *https://twitter.com/MadelnCanada/status/1628244308586364929 *https://twitter.com/CCNCartoonNews/status/1640438385230618647 *https://twitter.com/JazzBreakMan/status/1628171845471186945 LichCake (talk) 17:58, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Antrim County (Parliament of Ireland constituency) → County Antrim (Parliament of Ireland constituency) – Each county constituency for the Irish House of Commons as listed here includes the word county, rather than only using it for disambiguation when there is also a borough of the same name. This reflects that each of the 32 counties were given representations as counties. It also has the word county at the start rather than after. This would also be in line with MOS:IMOS COUNTIES. While I don't believe this is controversial, given the number of pages, and possible consequential changes on other pages, a notice period before moving them seemed warranted. Iveagh Gardens (talk) 17:56, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- Armagh County (Parliament of Ireland constituency) → County Armagh (Parliament of Ireland constituency)
- Carlow County (Parliament of Ireland constituency) → County Carlow (Parliament of Ireland constituency)
- Cavan County (Parliament of Ireland constituency) → County Cavan (Parliament of Ireland constituency)
- Clare (Parliament of Ireland constituency) → County Clare (Parliament of Ireland constituency)
- Cork County (Parliament of Ireland constituency) → County Cork (Parliament of Ireland constituency)
- Donegal County (Parliament of Ireland constituency) → County Donegal (Parliament of Ireland constituency)
- Down (Parliament of Ireland constituency) → County Down (Parliament of Ireland constituency)
- Dublin County (Parliament of Ireland constituency) → County Dublin (Parliament of Ireland constituency)
- Fermanagh (Parliament of Ireland constituency) → County Fermanagh (Parliament of Ireland constituency)
- Galway County (Parliament of Ireland constituency) → County Galway (Parliament of Ireland constituency)
- Kerry (Parliament of Ireland constituency) → County Kerry (Parliament of Ireland constituency)
- Kildare County (Parliament of Ireland constituency) → County Kildare (Parliament of Ireland constituency)
- Kilkenny County (Parliament of Ireland constituency) → County Kilkenny (Parliament of Ireland constituency)
- Leitrim (Parliament of Ireland constituency) → County Leitrim (Parliament of Ireland constituency)
- Limerick County (Parliament of Ireland constituency) → County Limerick (Parliament of Ireland constituency)
- Londonderry County (Parliament of Ireland constituency) → County Londonderry (Parliament of Ireland constituency)
- Longford County (Parliament of Ireland constituency) → County Longford (Parliament of Ireland constituency)
- Louth (Parliament of Ireland constituency) → County Louth (Parliament of Ireland constituency)
- Mayo (Parliament of Ireland constituency) → County Mayo (Parliament of Ireland constituency)
- Meath (Parliament of Ireland constituency) → County Meath (Parliament of Ireland constituency)
- Monaghan County (Parliament of Ireland constituency) → County Monaghan (Parliament of Ireland constituency)
- Roscommon County (Parliament of Ireland constituency) → County Roscommon (Parliament of Ireland constituency)
- Sligo County (Parliament of Ireland constituency) → County Sligo (Parliament of Ireland constituency)
- Tipperary (Parliament of Ireland constituency) → County Tipperary (Parliament of Ireland constituency)
- Tyrone (Parliament of Ireland constituency) → County Tyrone (Parliament of Ireland constituency)
- Waterford County (Parliament of Ireland constituency) → County Waterford (Parliament of Ireland constituency)
- Westmeath (Parliament of Ireland constituency) → County Westmeath (Parliament of Ireland constituency)
- Wexford County (Parliament of Ireland constituency) → County Wexford (Parliament of Ireland constituency)
- Wicklow County (Parliament of Ireland constituency) → County Wicklow (Parliament of Ireland constituency)
- (Discuss) – Faggot (slang) → Faggot (slur) – Slur seems more accurate than slang. While the article does mention that some people have reclaimed the term, it's much more widely perceived as a slur, isn't it? Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 14:51, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Li Rui (politician) → Li Rui – There are several notable Chinese individuals named Li Rui, but the politician appears to be the primary topic. His page has consistently gotten an order of magnitude more pageviews than the others and appears to also have orders of magnitude more Google results, though obviously interpretation is tricker there. We also have a far more detailed article on the politician than on the other Li Ruis, several of which seem unlikely to ever progress beyond stubs. The politician is far more broadly covered in academic work and published books, from what I can find. We should move the politician's article to simply be titled 'Li Rui' and rename the current 'Li Rui' page to make it a clear disambiguation page per usual practice. —Ganesha811 (talk) 11:43, 8 April 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. MaterialWorks (contribs) 13:10, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Don't take it personally, babe, it just ain't your story → Don't Take It Personally, Babe, It Just Ain't Your Story – Undiscussed move violates WP:TITLECAPS policy ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 14:00, 14 April 2023 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). – robertsky (talk) 11:13, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – George O. Petrie → George Petrie (actor) – While he was billed as "George O. Petrie" in the credits of about 10 percent of his film and TV appearances, the remaining 90 percent of his projects depict his name as "George Petrie". The main title headers of his entries at IMDb, AllMovie, TCM, AFI or even the George Petrie Fan Club list him as simply "George Petrie". — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 05:41, 8 April 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. MaterialWorks (contribs) 10:22, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
Elapsed listings
- (Discuss) – Chronic fatigue syndrome → Myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome – The condition is referred to as ME/CFS in the great majority of reliable sources, such as the CDC's information, NICE's guidelines, the NAM report, and almost all recent reviews. ME and ME/CFS are also in common use in the non-medical media. See Talk:Chronic fatigue syndrome#Myalgic Encephalomyelitis is the name for all previous discussion and my more thorough treatment of the issue (beginning with Debating the debate). The Quirky Kitty (talk) 08:58, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Numbers in Norse mythology → Numbers in Germanic paganism – The term "mythology", unlike "paganism", doesn't cover examples such as the Stentoften Stone which is not a tale but a record of a ritual practice. "Norse", unlike "Germanic", doesn't cover the "Nine herbs charm" which is of great relevance here. This chance would more accurately represent the content on the page and be a fuller foundation for a fleshing out and tidying up of this page. A potential alternative would be Numbers in Germanic paganism and mythology, similar to Sacred trees and groves in Germanic paganism and mythology. Ingwina (talk) 06:35, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – SpaceX Starship orbital test flight → Starship Flight Test – As I explained in a previous topic on this talk page, "Starship Flight Test" appears to be the official name used by SpaceX, on their webpage and live webcast. Although concerns that the test flight may be confused with other test flight may be warranted, this is exactly what hatnotes like Template:About should be applied. Relevant: WP:TITLE, specifically WP:QUALIFIER. [osunpokeh/talk/contributions] 06:12, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Istanbul High School → Istanbul Boys' High School – Reflecting the name change in 2019. Katakana546 (talk) 13:45, 25 March 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 15:00, 3 April 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. {{ping|ClydeFranklin}} (t/c) 00:47, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Songdo International Business District → Songdo – Over the years, as the Songdo International Business District has become a well-established neighbourhood of Incheon, it is now commonly and often referred to as just "Songdo". Many Wikipedia's already use just "Songdo". Loranchet (talk) 10:11, 31 March 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. {{ping|ClydeFranklin}} (t/c) 10:41, 7 April 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. {{ping|ClydeFranklin}} (t/c) 00:47, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – SBS Radio → SBS Audio – Because SBS Radio rebranded to SBS Audio a month ago, I want someone to move the SBS Radio article to SBS Audio. I also want someone to move the disambiguation page SBS Radio (disambiguation) to SBS Radio. Regards, TechGeek105 (his talk page) 23:07, 7 April 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. {{ping|ClydeFranklin}} (t/c) 00:37, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Eva Doležalová → Eva Vik – Artist/stage name has changed to Eva Vik Cias94 (talk) 02:26, 7 April 2023 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Cias94 (talk) 19:50, 7 April 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. {{ping|ClydeFranklin}} (t/c) 20:58, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – CPKC Railway → ? – Nowhere on the company website does it call itself "CPKC Railway." It's legal name is "Canadian Pacific Kansas City Limited" but everywhere online the company is simply calling itself "CPKC." RickyCourtney (talk) 19:21, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Boom Boom Boom → Boom Boom Boom (Outhere Brothers song) – Insufficient disambiguation. 162 etc. (talk) 22:26, 5 April 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 14:46, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
Backlog
- (Discuss) – The Lost Weekend (film) → The Lost Weekend – Nominated for seven Academy Awards and winner of four — Best Picture, Best Actor, Best Director and Best Screenplay, this production also won Best Film at New York Film Critics Circle Awards, Golden Globes, Cannes Film Festival and numerous other awards. Thus, it is the clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC — created in March 2002 and remained primary until December 2007 when it was unilaterally moved to The Lost Weekend (film). There are only four other entries titled "The Lost Weekend" — the out-of-print novel upon which the film is based, two redirects to TV episodes and a stub for a 1985 album. As for the disambiguation page, there are 12 entries listed upon The Lost Weekend disambiguation page, with six using "The Lost Weekend" and six using "Lost Weekend". Thus, it would seem, per WP:THE, since the main title header The Lost Weekend is not predominant, it would be more intuitive as Lost Weekend. — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 06:01, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2019–2026 Sudanese transition to democracy → Sudanese transition to democracy – Move per WP:CRYSTALBALL. The 2026 date is straight up not true. The transition plan was interrupted by the 2021 Sudan coup d'état. A previous move request in 2021 was dismissed as premature, but I believe enough time has passed to confidently move this. 〜 Festucalex • talk 05:59, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Croatia–NATO relations → Croatia in NATO – Conforms with Turkey in NATO, as well as Romania in NATO. I saw some consensus for this in a requested move on another page. Thoughts? Cheers, Wikiexplorationandhelping (talk) 19:58, 4 April 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 14:17, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Kaddare script → Kaddare alphabet – Undo the revert of a reversion, to status quo ante of 13 Feb 2019, i.e. this is BRRD. See:
• Clair, Kate; Busic-Snyder, Cynthia (2012-06-20). "Key Concepts". A Typographic Workbook: A Primer to History, Techniques, and Artistry. Hoboken, New Jersey: Wiley. p. 347. ISBN 9781118399880.alphabet: a set of visual characters or letters in an order fixed by custom. The individual characters represent the sounds of a spoken language. ... alphabets (called alphabets) which consist of separate vowels and consonants....
• "alphabet". Merriam-Webster [online].1.a. a set of letters or other characters with which one or more languages are written especially if arranged in a customary order
• WP:NCWS#Alphabets: "'Alphabet' is used for language-specific adaptations of a segmental script, usually with a defined sorting order and sometimes with not all of the letters, or with additional letters:" [followed by list of examples].
• Note that Kaddare is "language-specific" to the Somali language.
• See also what Omniglot calls it. – •Raven .talk 03:53, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Gadabuursi Somali script → Gadabuursi alphabet – See: • Clair, Kate; Busic-Snyder, Cynthia (2012-06-20). "Key Concepts". A Typographic Workbook: A Primer to History, Techniques, and Artistry. Hoboken, New Jersey: Wiley. p. 347. ISBN 9781118399880.
alphabet: a set of visual characters or letters in an order fixed by custom. The individual characters represent the sounds of a spoken language. ... alphabets (called alphabets) which consist of separate vowels and consonants....
• "alphabet". Merriam-Webster [online].1.a. a set of letters or other characters with which one or more languages are written especially if arranged in a customary order
• WP:NCWS#Alphabets: "'Alphabet' is used for language-specific adaptations of a segmental script, usually with a defined sorting order and sometimes with not all of the letters, or with additional letters:" [followed by list of examples].
• Note that Gadabuursi is "language-specific" to the Somali language.
• See also what Omniglot calls it.
• Alphabet and script articles don't generally include the language name if there is another identifier (e.g. Kaddare alphabet/script, Osmanya alphabet/script; vs. Russian alphabet/Cyrillic script, Arabic alphabet/Arabic script). – •Raven .talk 03:40, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Zaghawa script → Zaghawa alphabet – Undoing revert of reversion to restore original title; i.e. this is BRRD. See:
• Clair, Kate; Busic-Snyder, Cynthia (2012-06-20). "Key Concepts". A Typographic Workbook: A Primer to History, Techniques, and Artistry. Hoboken, New Jersey: Wiley. p. 347. ISBN 9781118399880.alphabet: a set of visual characters or letters in an order fixed by custom. The individual characters represent the sounds of a spoken language. ... alphabets (called alphabets) which consist of separate vowels and consonants....
• "alphabet". Merriam-Webster [online].1.a. a set of letters or other characters with which one or more languages are written especially if arranged in a customary order
• WP:NCWS#Alphabets: "'Alphabet' is used for language-specific adaptations of a segmental script, usually with a defined sorting order and sometimes with not all of the letters, or with additional letters:" [followed by list of examples].
• Note that the Zaghawa character/letter-set is "language-specific" to the Zaghawa language.
• See also what Omniglot calls it. – •Raven .talk 03:19, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Elbasan script → Elbasan alphabet – See: • Clair, Kate; Busic-Snyder, Cynthia (2012-06-20). "Key Concepts". A Typographic Workbook: A Primer to History, Techniques, and Artistry. Hoboken, New Jersey: Wiley. p. 347. ISBN 9781118399880.
alphabet: a set of visual characters or letters in an order fixed by custom. The individual characters represent the sounds of a spoken language. ... alphabets (called alphabets) which consist of separate vowels and consonants....
• "alphabet". Merriam-Webster [online].1.a. a set of letters or other characters with which one or more languages are written especially if arranged in a customary order
• WP:NCWS#Alphabets: "'Alphabet' is used for language-specific adaptations of a segmental script, usually with a defined sorting order and sometimes with not all of the letters, or with additional letters:" [followed by list of examples].
• Note that Elbasan is "language-specific" to the Albanian language.
• See also what Omniglot calls it. – •Raven .talk 03:03, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Todhri script → Todhri alphabet – Undoing move of 23 January 2021 to restore original title. See:
• Clair, Kate; Busic-Snyder, Cynthia (2012-06-20). "Key Concepts". A Typographic Workbook: A Primer to History, Techniques, and Artistry. Hoboken, New Jersey: Wiley. p. 347. ISBN 9781118399880.alphabet: a set of visual characters or letters in an order fixed by custom. The individual characters represent the sounds of a spoken language. ... alphabets (called alphabets) which consist of separate vowels and consonants....
• "alphabet". Merriam-Webster [online].1.a. a set of letters or other characters with which one or more languages are written especially if arranged in a customary order
• WP:NCWS#Alphabets: "'Alphabet' is used for language-specific adaptations of a segmental script, usually with a defined sorting order and sometimes with not all of the letters, or with additional letters:" [followed by list of examples].
• Note that Todhri is "language-specific" to the Albanian language.
• See also what Omniglot calls it. – •Raven .talk 02:54, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Vithkuqi script → Vithkuqi alphabet – Undoing the reversion of a reversion (this is now BRR D). See: • Clair, Kate; Busic-Snyder, Cynthia (2012-06-20). "Key Concepts". A Typographic Workbook: A Primer to History, Techniques, and Artistry. Hoboken, New Jersey: Wiley. p. 347. ISBN 9781118399880.
alphabet: a set of visual characters or letters in an order fixed by custom. The individual characters represent the sounds of a spoken language. ... alphabets (called alphabets) which consist of separate vowels and consonants....
• "alphabet". Merriam-Webster [online].1.a. a set of letters or other characters with which one or more languages are written especially if arranged in a customary order
• WP:NCWS#Alphabets: "'Alphabet' is used for language-specific adaptations of a segmental script, usually with a defined sorting order and sometimes with not all of the letters, or with additional letters:" [followed by list of examples].
• Note that Vithkuqi is "language-specific" to the Albanian language.
• See also what Omniglot calls it. – •Raven .talk 02:44, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Osmanya script → Osmanya alphabet – See: • Clair, Kate; Busic-Snyder, Cynthia (2012-06-20). "Key Concepts". A Typographic Workbook: A Primer to History, Techniques, and Artistry. Hoboken, New Jersey: Wiley. p. 347. ISBN 9781118399880.
alphabet: a set of visual characters or letters in an order fixed by custom. The individual characters represent the sounds of a spoken language. ... In addition to English, there are... Somali (Osmanya),....
• "alphabet". Merriam-Webster [online].1.a. a set of letters or other characters with which one or more languages are written especially if arranged in a customary order
• WP:NCWS#Alphabets: "'Alphabet' is used for language-specific adaptations of a segmental script, usually with a defined sorting order and sometimes with not all of the letters, or with additional letters:" [followed by list of examples].
• Note that Osmanya is "language-specific" to the Somali language.
• See also what Omniglot calls it. – •Raven .talk 01:51, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Bassa Vah script → Bassa Vah alphabet – See: • Clair, Kate; Busic-Snyder, Cynthia (2012-06-20). "Key Concepts". A Typographic Workbook: A Primer to History, Techniques, and Artistry. Hoboken, New Jersey: Wiley. p. 347. ISBN 9781118399880.
alphabet: a set of visual characters or letters in an order fixed by custom. The individual characters represent the sounds of a spoken language. ... In addition to English, there are... Bassa (Vah),....
• "alphabet". Merriam-Webster [online].1.a. a set of letters or other characters with which one or more languages are written especially if arranged in a customary order
• WP:NCWS#Alphabets: "'Alphabet' is used for language-specific adaptations of a segmental script, usually with a defined sorting order and sometimes with not all of the letters, or with additional letters:" [followed by list of examples].
• Note that Bassa Vah is "language-specific" to the Bassa language. – •Raven .talk 01:47, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – British Columbia United → BC United – The party officially changed its name today. The official name registered with Elections BC is "BC United".[25] The article should be moved to reflect this change.-- Darryl Kerrigan (talk) 00:48, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Niccolò Fontana Tartaglia → Niccolò Tartaglia – I don't see any support in the article for the name "Niccolò Fontana Tartaglia". Presumably his legal name (to the extent there was such a thing) was always Niccolò Fontana. The name he's most known by, Tartaglia, is technically a nickname. Images in the article suggest that he published as
Nicolaus Tartaglia andNicolo Tartaglia, with no "Fontana" in either. It seems a bit OR-ish to combine them into the tripartite name in the current title, and I don't believe I've ever seen his name in that form elsewhere.
To be honest, my real preference would be to move to just Tartaglia, which is the WP:COMMONNAME, if he passes WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, which I think it's likely he does. However that would take more legwork to check up on. Trovatore (talk) 20:29, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Plato's Academy mosaic → ? – The name is not used in scholarly literature as it points to a rather disputable interpretation. There is a wide range of alternatives with a significant amount of writing supporting each and rejecting the rest. Most authors call it the Philosophers' mosaic ,Mosaique des philosophes, Phisophenmosaik. There is also a second mosaic which is generally seen to be a variant on the same topic, so they are frequently discussed together and distinguished by referring to the place where they were found or are presently, thus mentions of Naples, Sarsina, villa Albani, Torre Annunziata etc. Recent work mentioned in the article (Massa-Pairault, Sedley) contains enough references to older mentions. The text of the article should be thoroughly reworked. 79.100.200.28 (talk) 07:35, 5 April 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 14:41, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Square Enix Europe → Eidos Interactive – This article's topic are video game publishers Domark and Eidos Interactive. Square Enix effectively absorbed Eidos into its group in 2009, which means it is no longer a publisher in the original sense. (Square Enix Limited is as Square Enix America not a separate publishing entity) A ship of Theseus problem occurs as WP is not merely a legal heritage database, as argued by Axem Titanium above. Later development should be merged into the main Square Enix group article as appropriate. IgelRM (talk) 07:42, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Pine Bowl (game) → Pine Bowl – Currently a WP:TWODABS situation with Pine Bowl (stadium) being the other article. That article is an unsourced stub and does not appear to be notable; a hatnote to Saint Francis University should be sufficient. 162 etc. (talk) 16:41, 9 April 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 02:48, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – West Sound (Ayrshire) → Greatest Hits Radio Ayrshire – The Radio station has changed its name from April 3, 2023 at 6 am DoctorStrange97 (talk) 14:44, 3 April 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. EpicPupper (talk) 15:08, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Judaea (Roman province) → Roman Judaea – Per WP:NCDAB, natural disambiguation is preferred over parentheses and a perfectly functional naturally disambiguated title exist for this page in "Roman Judaea" (already a redirect here), which is used frequently by historians in reference to the subject [26]. Iskandar323 (talk) 10:53, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Fred Graham → Frederick Graham – Most of the men listed upon the Fred Graham disambiguation page, are named "Frederick", including those indicated as "Fred". Fred Graham should redirect to Frederick Graham, not the opposite. — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 00:08, 28 March 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. {{ping|ClydeFranklin}} (t/c) 00:37, 4 April 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. {{ping|ClydeFranklin}} (t/c) 01:40, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Croatian–Slovene Peasant Revolt → Peasant revolt of 1573 – None of the current titles are proper names. None are clear and unambiguous, although the first comes closest. In each case the date is critical. I do not believe we should use "Croatian–Slovene", since it is (a) too artificial and (b) unheard of in RS not following WP. I am open to suggestions. Srnec (talk) 23:33, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Penn FC → Harrisburg City Islanders – @GiantSnowman, 162 etc., Jay eyem, and IagoQnsi: Now that the club is defunct, the article should be titled with the team's most recognizable name with respect to history. The club was officially known as the City Islanders for 14 seasons between 2004 and 2017. The team reached the finals three times and won one league championship. Conversely, Penn FC played a single unremarkable season in 2018. Following the article titling policy, the "recognizability" critera points strongly in favour of the proposed title. BLAIXX 14:59, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Afghan Premier League → Afghanistan Champions League – This is the name of country's domestic championship since 2021. The question is if that league is (1) a continuation of the Afghan Premier League, in which case this article should be renamed, or (2) a different competition, in which case a new article should be created. * RSSSF: The list of champions says that the Afghan Premier League was "discontinued after 2020", and then goes ahead with listing the winners of the subsequent Afghanistan Champions League. * Afghan Premier League: Its dedicated website hasn't published new materials since 2019. In its accounts in Facebook, Instagram and Twitter, the content from after 2020, if any, seems to pertain to the national teams instead. * National FA: Its website doesn't contain a section on the domestic championship but only links to that stale Premier League website. Its Instagram page has a lot more stuff, and one can see that while in 2020 a team was crowned as the champion of the "Afghan Premier League", in 2022 there was a winner of the "Afghanistan Champions League", with the photo caption saying this was the "second season" of the league (use automated translators if your Dari skills are lacking). There doesn't seem to be an explicit announcement of the change, though. All this evidence seems to be in favour of creating a new page, but input is welcome. I'm leaving a note on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Afghanistan. --Theurgist (talk) 14:44, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Joe Hendry → Joe Hendry (disambiguation) – per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. The wrestler is primary. [Pageviews here] --Etacarinaee (talk) 16:03, 1 April 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. {{ping|ClydeFranklin}} (t/c) 18:42, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Muslim conquest of Spain → Muslim conquest of the Iberian Peninsula – I believe the option of using "Iberian Peninsula" at the end of the title has not been sufficiently discussed. I believe this is the most appropriate title and my arguments are based on three points. # "Spain" fails WP:PRECISE and WP:CONCISE due to the exclusion of Portugal and other regions and does not follow the common practice in Wikipedia (see similar articles: List of the Pre-Roman peoples of the Iberian Peninsula, Timeline of the Muslim presence in the Iberian Peninsula, Roman conquest of the Iberian Peninsula, Timeline of Germanic kingdoms in the Iberian Peninsula, Mercenaries of the ancient Iberian Peninsula). # "Spain" is not the name used for the peninsula at those times (it is anachronistic) and it does not matter if it was. Historical forms such as Spania would be closer to the concept defined by the modern English name of "Hispania", identical to the Latin original and for which we have an article, defining the former Roman province(s) actually covering the whole peninsula, vs. the modern country covered by the word "Spain" which does not treat the whole of the peninsula while also including regions outside of it. # "Spain" is not the WP:COMMONNAME for this event. Both the current and proposed being descriptive names, the common name argument has more nuances than if we were discussing proper names. Further, in the last RM, some users stuck to the notion that Spain is simply an appropriate way of naming the whole peninsula, which I do not believe should have gone assumed without discussion as it did. Many of the results that showed up were immediately interpreted as employing Spain for the whole of the peninsula, but there is no proof of this. If I search "Muslim conquest of Spain" in Google Scholar, there is a total of 565 results. I will discuss the very first academic paper there I have free access to. It is Jews, Visigoths, and the Muslim Conquest of Spain. Already on the first page we see
One of the most persistent myths of modern historiography asserts that the Jewish communities of the Visigothic Kingdom collaborated with the Arab and Berber invaders of the Iberian Peninsula in the year 711.
The author has already made clear he is distinguishing between "Spain" and "Iberian Peninsula" in this context. This paper is about Spain, not Iberia. Also on the first page we seeHe is currently working on his Ph.D. dissertation regarding the conquest and resettlement of Majorca in Barcelona, Spain.
The geographical location of the scholar also can influence the title they choose to use. Being in Spain or at least being connected to it, this author published a work in Spanish history in a Spanish context, and not one on Iberian history in general. ::There is zero evidence to believe all academic papers employing "Muslim conquest of Spain" are deliberately choosing to refer to the peninsula as Spain rather than Iberia. That is in fact a very wild assumption to make, but it is one users supporting the current title decided to adopt. This issue is far more complex and nuanced and the burden on proving that indeed authors are making use of Spain for the whole of the peninsula falls on those who supported the last move and will oppose this one, not on me or in supporters of this move. I will lastly state that forms using Iberia or Iberian Peninsula have 497 results in Google Scholar [27], actually pretty close to the 565 Spain has. In conclusion. Many of the arguments for using "Spain" are flawed in many ways are require further consideration. That it is a common name is not a proven fact. Forms using Iberia are also very common and are concise and precise, and not anachronistic. This is why I believe they are a better title. And just in case, to avoid an Iberian Peninsula vs. Iberia debate, the article on the peninsula is called Iberian Peninsula and as I understood it, the move to "Umayyad conquest of Hispania" was carried out in the first place in 2007 because editors thought using "Iberia" could cause problems due to Georgia, also attacked by Muslim invading forces, was historically called Iberia as well [28]. Super Ψ Dro 11:43, 28 March 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. BD2412 T 00:49, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
Malformed requests
- Talk:Joe Hendry – Joe Hendry (wrestler) redirects to requested name: Joe Hendry. – May be in process of closing.
Possibly incomplete requests
- Talk:JLT (John Lindberg Trio) – JLT (John Lindberg Trio) is requested for move to John Lindberg Trio, which has non-redirecting content and is not requested for move
References
See also
- Wikipedia:Requested moves/Article alerts, which includes a list of recently closed, as well as open discussions