Template talk:Antisemitism sidebar

Inclusion of 4chan (/pol) and The Unz Review?

Neither 4chan (/pol/) nor The Unz Review feature the antisemitism sidebar, unlike the other entries under "Antisemitism on the Internet". Should they be removed from the template, or should the template be added to the sidebars of those articles? Zelaron (talk) 22:01, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Acronym formatting

"Z.O.G." should be "ZOG" per MOS:ACRO. 142.160.89.97 (talk) 03:19, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

 Done L293D (☎ • ✎) 13:50, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

Template use at Antisemitism_in_the_UK_Labour_Party article

Editors here might be interested in the discussion here on the use of this template at the above article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Antisemitism_in_the_UK_Labour_Party#Antisemitism_infobox BobFromBrockley (talk) 12:38, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

Add the Barnes Review?

Seems a good candidate. Doug Weller talk 19:33, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

Proposed change in illustration

The illustration is of a yellow badge with the German word Jude and is from Nazi Germany, which is the worst example of antisemitism. However, it is from just one country, so is limited as an illustration of a phenomenon existing in most countries for many centuries. Can I suggest we use a more general illustration? For example, the yellow star with a J, as used in Belgium in WWII under Nazi occupation, and shown at the bottom of the antisemitism page, would be a move in the right direction. Jontel (talk) 13:17, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Use of template for general-purpose alt right sites being debated at Gab talk page

Discussion ongoing at Talk:Gab_(social_network)#Article_part_of_"Articles_on_antisemitism"? on whether to attach AS sidebar to Gab has broader relevance here. 73.89.25.252 (talk) 01:19, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Similar parallel discussions are happening at Talk:Parler. 73.89.25.252 (talk) 06:50, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

The fact that an entire section of this template about a long-running historical issue is centered on modern Internet sites strikes me as recentism PBZE (talk) 18:19, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

PBZE I can see where you're coming from, but I'm inclined to disagree; recentism would be if the sidebar only included the Internet section and contemporary antisemitism, or had a minimal inclusion of historical references. The sidebar currently lists people, events, manifestations, etc from many periods in history. 'On the Internet' is but one section. Removing the Internet section would kind of ignore how antisemitic beliefs have become so common today, and I'd argue the opposite of recentism (pastism?), if that's a thing. Blade Jogger 2049 ^Talk 01:49, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

BladeJogger2049 I find it a little weird that alt-right websites have this sidebar specifically, because they have a whole host of problems (like being white supremacist) and antisemitism is among one of them. They're primarily notable for being part of the modern alt-right, so the general antisemitism sidebar seems too broad. Although I can see why they'd be included anyway because the alt-right is the primary driver of antisemitism and it's difficult to find any modern manifestations of overt antisemitism that aren't alt-right, although there exists things like the Nation of Islam. It'd be more fitting if a more specific alt-right sidebar was created. I find it weird that those websites get this sidebar for such a broad topic and Nazism and alt-right don't. PBZE (talk) 06:02, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

PBZE Whoops don't know how I missed your response, sorry for the delay. I do agree, most of these websites would fit well into an alt-right sidebar if that were created; I know they're already listed under the category box for alt-right. I've never made a new sidebar from scratch but I think it'd be a worthwhile project. Blade Jogger 2049 ^Talk 18:36, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

@BladeJogger2049: See below; this sidebar has been removed from Parler. I am among those who are unconvinced that this sidebar should include any alt-right website, as antisemitism isn't their main focus, it's just one of many components. An alt-right sidebar would be appropriate. ~Anachronist (talk) 04:36, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

@Anachronist: Thank you for letting me know! And apologies for the delay I've been rather busy lately. The more I've thought about it I agree; unlike say Gab and other more explicitly Nazi-oriented sites, Parler's focus is too broad to include. Blade Jogger 2049 ^Talk 03:11, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

Prominent Figures

Hello! I updated the sidebar to include notable people who are well-known for their antisemitic beliefs. I tried to include a mix of the *most* notable people from a variety of backgrounds, such as the most well-known Nazi officials, neo-Nazi/alt-right Internet personalities, etc. It's also primarily from a western perspective so it might not be wholly complete, and there may be people on there worth removing for notability concerns (obviously every neo-Nazi can't be included because it would be a ridiculously long list). If anyone has additions, or feel that someone isn't notable enough for inclusion, feel free to change as needed. Blade Jogger 2049 ^Talk 02:32, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

Removed Parler per RFC closure

The outcome of the RFC at Talk:Parler#Part of a series on Antisemitism was to remove the template from that article. Insofar as articles listed in this template would be expected to include this template, I have removed the article from this template. ~Anachronist (talk) 04:33, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

14 May additions to the persons list

A number of recent additions to the associated people list should be removed. It's not at all clear why people such as Edsel Ford or Alfred Salon were added to this list. Ford's article makes no mention of anything related to antisemitism and the connection at Salon is weak as well. I have similar concerns with a number of the other recent additions. Springee (talk) 14:12, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

Agreed. And there is even less justification for the addition of Che Guevara and Enver Hoxha. I have also removed these undue and undiscussed additions. RolandR (talk) 16:53, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

On the Jewish Question-BRD

I added this article to the sidebar, IMO per the content of that article it fits hand in glove, also WP:BIDIRECTIONAL. I was reverted with the ES If you want to make such a contentious edit, try to gain consensus in the Talk page first. Opinions, editors? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:58, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Please make a case for such a highly contentious edit. It's not enough to assert that "it fits". And in the absence of a consensus, please do not again add this. RolandR (talk) 15:30, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

It fits = The article discuss Anti-Semitism in detail. What makes it "contentious"? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:36, 29 May 2021 (UTC)