Wikipedia:Templates for discussion

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On this page, the deletion or merging of templates and modules, except as noted below, is discussed.

How to use this page[edit]

What not to propose for discussion here[edit]

The majority of deletion and merger proposals concerning pages in the template namespace and module namespace should be listed on this page. However, there are a few exceptions:

Stub templates
Stub templates and categories should be listed at Categories for discussion, as these templates are merely containers for their categories, unless the stub template does not come with a category and is being nominated by itself.
Userboxes
Userboxes should be listed at Miscellany for deletion, regardless of the namespace in which they reside.
Speedy deletion candidates
If the template clearly satisfies a criterion for speedy deletion, tag it with a speedy deletion template. For example, if you wrote the template and request its deletion, tag it with {{Db-author}}.
Policy or guideline templates
Templates that are associated with particular Wikipedia policies or guidelines, such as the speedy deletion templates, cannot be listed at TfD separately. They should be discussed on the talk page of the relevant guideline.
Template redirects
List at Redirects for discussion.
Moving and renaming
Use Wikipedia:Requested moves.

Reasons to delete a template[edit]

  1. The template violates some part of the template namespace guidelines, and can't be altered to be in compliance.
  2. The template is redundant to a better-designed template.
  3. The template is not used, either directly or by template substitution (the latter cannot be concluded from the absence of backlinks), and has no likelihood of being used.
  4. The template violates a policy such as Neutral point of view or Civility and it can't be fixed through normal editing.

Templates should not be nominated if the issue can be fixed by normal editing. Instead, you should edit the template to fix its problems. If the template is complex and you don't know how to fix it, WikiProject Templates may be able to help.

Templates for which none of these apply may be deleted by consensus here. If a template is being misused, consider clarifying its documentation to indicate the correct use, or informing those that misuse it, rather than nominating it for deletion. Initiate a discussion on the template talk page if the correct use itself is under debate.

Listing a template[edit]

To list a template for deletion or merging, follow this three-step process. The use of Twinkle (explained below) is strongly recommended, as it automates and simplifies these steps. Note that the "Template:" prefix should not be included anywhere when carrying out these steps (unless otherwise specified).

Step Instructions
I: Tag the template. Add one of the following codes to the top of the template page:

Note:

  • If the template nominated is inline, do not add a newline between the TfD notice and the code of the template.
  • If the template to be nominated for deletion is protected, make a request for the TfD tag to be added, by posting on the template's talk page and using the {{editprotected}} template to catch the attention of administrators or Template editors.
  • For templates designed to be substituted, add <noinclude>...</noinclude> around the TfD notice to prevent it from being substituted alongside the template.
  • Do not mark the edit as minor.
  • Use an edit summary like
    Nominated for deletion; see [[Wikipedia:Templates for discussion#Template:name of template]]
    or
    Nominated for merging; see [[Wikipedia:Templates for discussion#Template:name of template]].
  • Before saving your edit, preview your edit to ensure the Tfd message is displayed properly.

Multiple templates: If you are nominating multiple related templates, choose a meaningful title for the discussion (like "American films by decade templates"). Tag every template with {{subst:Tfd|heading=discussion title}} or {{subst:Tfm|name of other template|heading=discussion title}} instead of the versions given above, replacing discussion title with the title you chose (but still not changing the PAGENAME code).

Related categories: If including template-populated tracking categories in the TfD nomination, add {{Catfd|template name}} to the top of any categories that would be deleted as a result of the TfD, this time replacing template name with the name of the template being nominated. (If you instead chose a meaningful title for a multiple nomination, use {{Catfd|header=title of nomination}} instead.)

TemplateStyles pages: The above templates will not work on TemplateStyles pages. Instead, add a CSS comment to the top of the page:

/* This template is being discussed in accordance with Wikipedia's deletion policy. Help reach a consensus at its entry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2024_January_17#Template:template_name.css */
II: List the template at TfD. Follow this link to edit today's TfD log.

Add this text to the top of the list:

  • For deletion: {{subst:Tfd2|template name|text=Why you think the template should be deleted. ~~~~}}
  • For merging: {{subst:Tfm2|template name|other template's name|text=Why you think the templates should be merged. ~~~~}}

If the template has had previous TfDs, you can add {{Oldtfdlist|previous TfD without brackets|result of previous TfD}} directly after the Tfd2/Catfd2 template.

Use an edit summary such as
Adding [[Template:template name]].

Multiple templates: If this is a deletion proposal involving multiple templates, use the following:

{{subst:Tfd2|template name 1|template name 2 ...|title=meaningful discussion title|text=Why you think the templates should be deleted. ~~~~}}

You can add up to 50 template names (separated by vertical bar characters | ). Make sure to include the same meaningful discussion title that you chose before in Step 1.

If this is a merger proposal involving more than two templates, use the following:

{{subst:Tfm2|template name 1|template name 2 ...|with=main template (optional)|title=meaningful discussion title|text=Why you think the templates should be merged. ~~~~}}

You can add up to 50 template names (separated by vertical bar characters | ), plus one more in |with=. |with= does not need to be used, but should be the template that you want the other templates to be merged into. Make sure to include the same meaningful discussion title that you chose before in Step 1.

Related categories: If this is a deletion proposal involving a template and a category populated solely by templates, add this code in the |text= field of the Tfd2 template but before the text of your rationale:

{{subst:Catfd2|category name}}
III: Notify users. Please notify the creator of the template nominated (as well as the creator of the target template, if proposing a merger). It is helpful to also notify the main contributors of the template that you are nominating. To find them, look in the page history or talk page of the template. Then, add one of the following:

to the talk pages of the template creator (and the creator of the other template for a merger) and the talk pages of the main contributors. It is also helpful to make any interested WikiProjects aware of the discussion. To do that, make sure the template's talk page is tagged with the banners of any relevant WikiProjects; please consider notifying any of them that do not use Article alerts.

Multiple templates: There is no template for notifying an editor about a multiple-template nomination: please write a personal message in these cases.

Consider adding any templates you nominate for TfD to your watchlist. This will help ensure that the TfD tag is not removed.

After nominating: Notify interested projects and editors[edit]

While it is sufficient to list a template for discussion at TfD (see above), nominators and others sometimes want to attract more attention from and participation by informed editors. All such efforts must comply with Wikipedia's guideline against biased canvassing.

To encourage participation by less experienced editors, please avoid Wikipedia-specific abbreviations in the messages you leave about the discussion, link to any relevant policies or guidelines, and link to the TfD discussion page itself. If you are recommending that a template be speedily deleted, please give the criterion that it meets.

Notifying related WikiProjects[edit]

WikiProjects are groups of editors that are interested in a particular subject or type of editing. If the article is within the scope of one or more WikiProjects, they may welcome a brief, neutral note on their project's talk page(s) about the TfD. You can use {{Tfd notice}} for this.

Tagging the nominated template's talk page with a relevant Wikiproject's banner will result in the template being listed in that project's Article Alerts automatically, if they subscribe to the system. For instance, tagging a template with {{WikiProject Physics}} will list the discussion in Wikipedia:WikiProject Physics/Article alerts.

Notifying substantial contributors to the template[edit]

While not required, it is generally considered courteous to notify the good-faith creator and any main contributors of the template and its talkpage that you are nominating for discussion. To find the creator and main contributors, look in the page history or talk page.

At this point, you've done all you need to do as nominator. Sometime after seven days have passed, someone else will either close the discussion or, where needed, "relist" it for another seven days of discussion. (That "someone" may not be you, the nominator.)

Once you have submitted a template here, no further action is necessary on your part. If the nomination is successful it will be added to the Holding Cell until the change is implemented. There is no requirement for nominators to be part of the implementation process, but they are allowed to if they so wish.

Also, consider adding any templates you nominate to your watchlist. This will help ensure that your nomination tag is not mistakenly or deliberately removed.

Twinkle[edit]

Twinkle is a convenient tool that can perform many of the posting and notification functions automatically, with fewer errors and missed steps than manual editing. Twinkle does not notify WikiProjects, although many of them have automatic alerts. It is helpful to notify any interested WikiProjects that don't receive alerts, but this has to be done manually.

Discussion[edit]

Anyone can join the discussion, but please understand the deletion policy and explain your reasoning.

People will sometimes also recommend subst or subst and delete and similar. This means the template text should be "merged" into the articles that use it. Depending on the content, the template page may then be deleted; if preserving the edit history for attribution is desirable, it may be history-merged with the target article or moved to mainspace and redirected.

Templates are rarely orphaned—that is, removed from pages that transclude them—before the discussion is closed. A list of open discussions eligible for closure can be found at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Old unclosed discussions.

Closing discussion[edit]

Administrators should read the closing instructions before closing a nomination. Note that WP:XFDcloser semi-automates this process and ensures all of the appropriate steps are taken.

Current discussions[edit]

January 17[edit]

Template:Anthony Lewis bibliography[edit]

2 entries WP:NENAN --woodensuperman 12:31, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Deborah Anderson[edit]

Other than family members, only two articles. WP:NENAN. --woodensuperman 10:16, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:2020s WSOP bracelet winners[edit]

Too large and with too much unlinked text to provide useful navigation. --woodensuperman 11:40, 9 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Remove unlinked-names: the template is for navigation and it solves the problem. 109.37.142.196 (talk) 13:28, 9 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I don't really believe this is a useful or suitable topic for navigation though. Who would really want to navigate between any of the people with articles on this navbox in this manner. --woodensuperman 16:37, 9 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:03, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]


January 16[edit]

Template:MunElec4[edit]

No transclusions, documentation, or incoming links from discussions. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:14, 16 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Ordering[edit]

Propose deletion of this template for the following reasons:

  1. seems to be a recreation of previously deleted Template:Order, see Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2021 October 4#Template:Order and Special:Permalink/1196163462#Nomination for deletion of Template:Order.
  2. The purpose of the template is not clear. The template links to WP:ORDER and categorizes into Category:Wikipedia articles needing ordering, yet it is used solely in person infoboxes, as an outcome of mistranslation from Polish Wikipedia. Compare w:pl:Marcin Borelowski and User:Kadachie/Marcin Borelowski. In mainspace it's just placed in the field "Awards" of the English Wikipedia's version of the infobox. So it seems to be about Order (distinction), which is not related to WP:ORDER (aka MOS:ORDER).

Corresponding Category:Wikipedia articles needing ordering should be deleted as well. —⁠andrybak (talk) 17:01, 16 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Panoramio[edit]

Panoramio service was discontinued in 2016, now the link points to a Google shutdown notice. Low number of transclusions (21). ZandDev (msg) 14:45, 16 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Big Cartoon DataBase[edit]

The website is broken. it's not on the Internet Archive, but if my memory serves me correct, it was broken 6 months ago too. A lot of the pages linked to still work, but I don't think systematically linking to a site that clearly hasn't been maintained in any way for at least 5 years (look at the copyright notice) is a good idea, especially considering the effort it would take to merge them as decided by their previous TfD. Side note, in my personal opinion, I don't understand why we linked to it in the first place. It doesn't seem to be a site of particular importance, or credibility, or quality, or anything. Snowmanonahoe (talk · contribs · typos) 00:11, 16 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Delete both per the nomination. I agree that it was always a bit of an off-the-beaten-path website to link to, and there's no encyclopedic value to leading our readers to an error message that is unlikely to be resolved. TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 22:14, 16 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Previous TfDs for this template:


January 15[edit]

Template:Nuestra Belleza Puebla[edit]

Only contains 1 blue link. WP:NENAN. –Aidan721 (talk) 20:29, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]


January 14[edit]

Template:Keystone Giants football navbox[edit]

Navbox with no blue links except to the main article. Not usable. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:44, 14 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Lil Darkie[edit]

Unused navbox for Draft:Lil Darkie, a repeatedly recreated article that has yet to demonstrate notability. No blue links at all. Too soon to be needed. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:43, 14 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Footer WTT Finals Champions Table Tennis Doubles Men[edit]

Navbox with no blue links in the body. This event just started in 2023, so a navbox like this will not be useful for navigation for at least a year. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:31, 6 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 15:05, 14 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Script/Arabic-international-para[edit]

These templates are unused and were placed in Category:Script–font templates, deprecated. If they are indeed unwanted, they should be deleted. Gonnym (talk) 10:32, 14 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Script/Hebrew/testcases/doc[edit]

Unused /doc page. Also, testcases pages do not use doc pages so unsurprising this isn't used. Gonnym (talk) 10:29, 14 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Cellpadding1px.css[edit]

No transclusions, categories, template parameters, or incoming links from discussions. This may be an abandoned experiment. Created in November 2023. – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:49, 14 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Chinese characters simplifications[edit]

No transclusions, documentation, template parameters, or incoming links from discussions. – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:47, 14 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Y-DNA G[edit]

No transclusions, documentation, or template parameters. – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:46, 14 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]


January 13[edit]

Three now redundant and superseded route diagram templates[edit]

These three route diagram templates are redundant, since they themselves were only used on a few other route diagram templates each, making them mostly redundant in the first place. I also recently replaced these three templates with colored line segments for all of the route diagram templates in question, thus making these particular three wholly redundant now. --OrdinaryScarlett (talk) 06:40, 13 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]


January 12[edit]

Template:BJJRank[edit]

Use of this was explicitly rejected in an RfC: Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Icons/Archive 17#RfC Can notable Brazilian jiu-jitsu people display a rank icon in their infobox like Judo people do? Some additional rank-icon templates for other martial arts like judo should perhaps be addressed separately, since they were not covered by the RfC in question. PS: I put the TfD notice at the top of the template's /doc page, since putting even the small version into the template itself my booger the display of infoboxes, which is what this template was created for.  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  15:01, 12 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:MTV Movie Award for Best Cameo[edit]

This isn't really a career defining moment for anyone here, it's pretty trivial. Can't see why anyone would want to navigate between these articles in this way. --woodensuperman 15:30, 4 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Keep. Has an article at MTV Movie Award for Best Cameo so fits the criteria. We shouldn't make award navbox a popularity contest. Keep it neutral - it is either notable, has an article and enough links, at which point a navbox is ok, or it fails one of those checks and a navbox isn't ok. That said, I'd probably be in favor of eliminating all award navboxes, but not one by one. Gonnym (talk) 11:09, 5 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 14:56, 12 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:MTV Movie Award for Best Kiss[edit]

This is a pretty trivial award, not exactly a career-defining moment. Do people really use navboxes to navigate articles in this way? --woodensuperman 15:32, 4 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Keep. Has an article at MTV Movie Award for Best Kiss so fits the criteria. We shouldn't make award navbox a popularity contest. Keep it neutral - it is either notable, has an article and enough links, at which point a navbox is ok, or it fails one of those checks and a navbox isn't ok. That said, I'd probably be in favor of eliminating all award navboxes, but not one by one. Gonnym (talk) 11:08, 5 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 14:56, 12 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]


January 11[edit]

Template:Bowling-season-stub[edit]

The category which this template populates was deleted as a result of CFD, and there are no inclusions. Ymblanter (talk) 22:08, 11 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:2024 Campeonato Paulista group tables[edit]

Single use templates, as each table is being transuded once onto 2024 Campeonato Paulista. As such, no need for template, as the tables can be subst and hard coded on that article. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:19, 3 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello,
I'm using the template on the team's 2024 season articles as well. Guilherme (talk) 11:21, 3 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Delete Subst per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:28, 8 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Keep – at this point it is premature to nominate templates for the current year's season, both per Guilherme and the fact that they can be valuable as a fail-safe for editors amidst constant edits during the season. Respublik (talk) 23:48, 8 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Usually these template types are nominated after an event has finished, so there isn't a ton of precedent for while the event is ongoing. Relisting for more input.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Primefac (talk) 20:14, 11 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Uw-ublock-nonsense[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more templates or modules. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was delete. Since the creator G7 deleted it, more discussion isn't needed. (non-admin closure) Nobody (talk) 09:37, 11 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Per the username policy, Your username can be virtually any string of characters. I'm not seeing any part of that policy that justifies blocking people merely because their username is a random(-looking) string of reasonable length (for example, "u2a3t0-1" or the like), so I don't think that this template makes sense to keep as a blocking template. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 06:23, 11 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Notified: Wikipedia talk:Username policy. –Novem Linguae (talk) 07:27, 11 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Comment – there appear to be 67 users with this template on their UTP, all blocked except for one, afaict. Don't know that this argues either for, or against, keeping it. Mathglot (talk) 07:55, 11 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template or module's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Template:Ericson Alexander Molano[edit]

Albums that were previously listed here were all redirected nearly 2 years ago and the template cleaned up. Nothing else remains to make this a serviceable navigational tool. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 01:05, 11 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]


January 10[edit]

Template:2018 Quebec general election/La Peltrie[edit]

Single-article content with no template parameters. Subst and delete. – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:26, 10 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

II don't understand why this is being considered for deletion. This follows the established Canadian election result template structure as For reference: Template:Canadian election result/total/doc. Saum1 (talk) 21:34, 10 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Transclusion depth test[edit]

Little-used ancient silliness. * Pppery * it has begun... 21:25, 10 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Descendants of Watatsumi[edit]

Unsure what the use is of a template that mostly links to articles on the Japanese language Wikipedia The Banner talk 09:51, 10 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Rod of Iron Ministries[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more templates or modules. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 04:43, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

WP:NENAN The Banner talk 00:39, 10 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template or module's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Old discussions[edit]

January 7

Template:Athens Branch

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more templates or modules. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was soft delete. Still unused. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the template's undeletion. Primefac (talk) 13:28, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Unused. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:50, 26 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Keep. Now linked from North Bend Rail Trail. Useddenim (talk) 06:14, 30 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 16:12, 7 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template or module's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Template:Officer Ranks and Insignia of Finland (alternative)

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Unused insignia templates. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:34, 30 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Keep for now: I created these, as the generic NATO country rank templates automatically created from the comparative template (see eg. Officer ranks) don't exactly fit the Finnish rank system in its actual usage (the source for the comparison is incomplete, slightly erroneous and has been supplemented by unsourced material and a proper STANAG 2116 revision including the Finnish ranks for a proper conversion has not yet been given out) - these are effectively a templated mirror of table on the page for the Finnish military ranks. While the aforementioned page uses the table itself for better editability, these are the only linkable template which have the correct division to general, senior and junior officers, omitting the incorrect OF(D) and officer student references (the Finnish Officer Cadet is an OF-1 rank, the Officer Candidate an OR-5 and Officer Student an OR-4 service rank); as well as the correct division to NCO and enlisted as well as omitting the actually nonexistent rank of Recruit. Until the correct conversion from the upcoming STANAG 2116 revision is available, the NATO template is incorrect and these templates created by me are more correct; the reason why I daredn't edit the NATO template is that it reflects the (however incorrect) sole source. XoravaX (talk) 15:47, 31 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Toadette (Merry Christmas, and a happy new year) 09:12, 7 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Completed discussions[edit]

A list of completed discussions that still require action taken on the template(s) — for example, a merge between two infoboxes — can be found at the "Holding Cell".

For an index of all old and archived discussions, see Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/Archives.